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 No.514925

Do you believe in G*d?

 No.514932

File: 1458679236705.webm (5.21 MB, 640x360, 16:9, furry and k go out.webm)


 No.514939

I believe in a widespread natural and correlated emergent property of the universe that gives purpose and a meaningfully-but-not-completely-directed teleology, functioning without an intelligence or even sentience, the goal of which is to create a life-form that is of the universe and simultaneously capable of describing the universe in its entirety.

You can call that property "God" if it makes you feel better, but I really think it bears little resemblance to Abrahamic depictions of a omnipotent and omniscient Creator.


 No.514944

Depends.

What do you call a being that doesn't have a physical manifestation yet you've known them for your entire life?


 No.514946

>>514925

Yes, assuming you mean the Judaeo-Christian God.

Why are censoring though?


 No.514959

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All-powerful and ever-living God,


when Rain left her native land
and departed from her people


you kept her safe through all his journeys.


Protect these sergals.


Be our constant companion and our strength in battle,


our refuge in every adversity.


Guide us, O Lord, that we may return home in safety.

Should we be harmed, may our wounds heal.

Should we perish in the struggle,

may Rain embrace us and find for us a place in Her Kingdom.


 No.514960

I hope that there is as well as an afterlife.


 No.514961

File: 1458682605140.jpg (84.93 KB, 960x960, 1:1, KurUh37.jpg)


 No.514967

>>514961

Yo great meme dawkins


 No.514968

>>514939

You "believe"?

Ha. So what's the difference between you and any other dumbfuck cultist who "believes" in some deranged bullshit?

You have no proof, so what are you doing? Just inventing your own god? Hahahah, dumbfuck.

Prove it with logic and evidence or GTFO.


 No.514970

>>514944

Either your fursona or an imaginary friend.

Either way, you're retarded.


 No.514971

>>514960

>>514946

So I guess you guys got pulled in by the "Immortality in paradise" line? You know it works like a pyramid scheme, right?

You idiot mortals are so pathetic. There is no god and there is no afterlife. Filthy simians.


 No.514973

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>>514925

Nah, I don't believe there is some almighty faggot controlling the world.

Although I do like the idea of nature/spiritual stuff, kinda like >>514939

Might be related to the use of psychedelics though.


 No.514975

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>>514970

>Either way, you're retarded.

How did you know?


 No.514976

I belive in the one true God, our Lord and savior Kek


 No.514979

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>>514925

I can do the whole mainstream meme thing of "my society basically has rejected God and it is cool to reject God because all my friends and family do it and it's all I know".

I have a slightly different opinion in that I'm not going to worship God simply because I do not want to take precious time away from my self-defeating social isolation and habitual masturbation, but at the same time I'm not going to deny the benefit of a religious following for the individual. Regardless of what they are worshiping or who, religious groups do have a greater sense of general social function and care for one another simply because of the common religious interest.

It's a pretty simple point, being not religious means you don't even have a chance at a group of people who may be looking out for your well-being. You are just a grain of sand lost amidst the ocean, flowing to and fro. If you do follow a religion and are amongst people of the same religion, at least you have a chance at a group of people who may be looking out for your well-being.


 No.514980

To some extend. But my views are mostly pandeistic, rather than going with the typical depiction of the judeo-christian God.


 No.514985

>>514979

>I use religion as a mooch! That way, people are forced to care about me and support me through some perceived obligation and fear of a higher power's reprisal!

Okay buddy, but that sounds pretty psychopathic.


 No.514987

>>514985

That's hardly what I was talking about. I should have expected idiots on the Internet would take it 10 degrees too far, but okay. Thanks for your useless input.


 No.514990

>>514979

>It's a pretty simple point, being not religious means you don't even have a chance at a group of people who may be looking out for your well-being.

This just isn't true. Plenty of groups look out for each other's well-being on the basis of things other than religion, because they recognize the practical benefits of social cooperation. That's pretty much the basis of any secular society. For fuck's sake.


 No.514992

>>514968

I'm not that anon, but I wanted you to know you sound underage and I hate you.


 No.514993


 No.514994

>>514993

careful not to cut yourself on that edge, retard


 No.515009

>>514994

Here's your (((you)))


 No.515019

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No, I was born into an atheist family. But I think the idealized concept of religion serves a good societal function. Human beings, like other animals, have a biological impulse to form groups, helping people in the group while hurting other groups (the "you can only sympathize with 150 other individuals" thing). Religious concepts look past that to try to create a universal system where all humans are part of the same group. Christianity states that everyone, not just Christians, either go to heaven or hell, just as the various Hindu and Buddhist sects believe that everyone is caught in a cycle of reincarnation. The system is meant to encourage morally good behavior.

Of course, being part of a religion doesn't make the instincts to form into groups and compete with other groups disappear. This can cause religious adherents to lose sight of the main message of their belief, which is usually altruistic. Individuals who have especially competitive personalities can use religion to divide and control people, causing great human suffering. The worst part is that they do this while still completely believing in their religion.

The balance of these two impulses is the human experience, and I don't think we'll ever be free from it unless the technological singularity fundamentally changes the individual or something. It's why the priest/imam can encourage and fund the building of schools and orphanages, and then bless the crusader/mujahid as they go off to kill each other.

We like to point to Islam as an example of religious violence, and yes, Muslims on average do much more violence in the name of God than Christians. This is not a product of Islam itself, but rather of the distinct histories of Christianity and Islam. Christianity had the benefit of already having the Roman Empire to use as a vector, so much of the violence during initial expansion was internal, such as Emperor Constantius II's 337 decree that punished paganism with death, and the numerous Christian zealots that destroyed pagan symbols. Islam started outside of any empire, and so created it's own with proselytizing conquest. Holy wars were waged by both faiths. The general histories of the two religions diverge with a process that started with Protestant Reformation and was completed with the Thirty Years' War; these events ultimately made religion secondary to the state. After Catholic France joined Protestant countries in fighting Catholic Austria, it was obvious that it didn't matter who your god was, only who your king was. In western thought, the state and later nationalism replaced religion as the ideology that united and divided humanity. Conceptually, there's no difference between a Serbian soldier executing Croatians and an ISIS soldier executing Syrian Christians.

I guess the tl;dr of this is that Jesus was a nice guy with some good ideas. A lot of people try to understand and follow his ideas, but sometimes their natural instincts get in the way and they end up hurting people.


 No.515051

I do, Christian my entire life. I'm not perfect, but I dig the teachings and the community. As >>514979 said, they're very loving and reliable.

It's not individualistic, but I'm content as it causes me to feel humility.

>>515019

It really depends on the sect. For Catholicism, there's a middle plane called "Purgatory". Protestantism and Baptists only have heaven and hell.

Religion is something that you have to participate yourself to fully in order to get it. You won't convince people with an outside perspective of it.


 No.515064

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>>515051

>For Catholicism, there's a middle plane called "Purgatory"

Nowhere in the bible does it ever mention a such thing as what purgatory describes. "Purgatory" is just a made-up excuse to brush off cognitive dissonance when balancing the notion that god is all-loving while at the same time sends people who weren't baptized to hell (such as those who never got the chance because they were never preached to/heard of god)

The same thing goes for "Limbo"; a seperate purgatory for dead infants who were never baptized, it doesn't exist either.

Be assured, and doubt not, that not only men who have attained the use of their reason, but also little children who have begun to live in their mothers' womb and have there died, or who, having been just born, have passed away from the world without the sacrament of holy baptism, administered in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, must be punished by the eternal torture of undying fire; for although they have committed no sin by their own will, they have nevertheless drawn with them the condemnation of original sin, by their carnal conception and nativity. (sec. 70.)

—Bishop St. Fulgentius


 No.515071

>>514925

Yes I do and I fucking hate kikes and I fucking hate muslims. If your a Christian and you don't despise the Jews, then you need to just hang yourself right now because you are worse than they are for being a traitor to your Savior. You will burn next to the Jew.

I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill um' all!


 No.515074

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>>515071

Ah that's some good ol' fashioned christian hospitality

>>515051

>Religion is something that you have to participate yourself to fully in order to get it. You won't convince people with an outside perspective of it.

>Unicornism is something that you have to participate yourself to fully in order to get it. You won't convince people with an outside perspective that unicorns actually exist.


 No.515076

File: 1458698851718.png (63.8 KB, 1304x892, 326:223, DO NOT REPLY Argentinians.png)

>>515071

ARGENTINA ES WHITE!


 No.515083

>>515074

>zionists

>not as filthy as nwo or kebab

>nationalism is a bad thing

There's a difference between national socialism and nationalism, I hope you know that.


 No.515085

File: 1458699836502.png (54.34 KB, 622x625, 622:625, He got you good.png)


 No.515088

>>515074

Hello Chaim. How is Tel Aviv this morning? I bet you're very happy about Belgium, huh? Everything going to according to plan, huh?

>>515076

https://youtu.be/3PbdyJ_ybSI


 No.515089

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>>515088

>He doesn't know how to embed jewtube videos


 No.515090

>>515089

I couldn't really care less.


 No.515094

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>>515071

Goddamn, that is some powerful stupid. I mean I know /pol/ is the biggest board on this site and everything, but you'd think that there'd be less overlap between furries and the alt right considering that Hitler would have happily gassed your degenerate ass along with the rest of us.


 No.515104

>>514971

Nah I just don't want to cease to exist.


 No.515119

>>515085

sactally mup da doo didda po mo gub bidda be dat tum muhfugen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga


 No.515120

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>>515090

caring enough to tell people you don't care is a self-defeating argument anon.

In any case, there's no excuse for newfaggotry.

Back to remedial internet class with you

>>>/newfag/

>>515094

It's a staple of stupid ideologies (and people, by extension) that the idiots who follow them won't be the ones getting fucked over, naaawww, it's always someone ELSE. Supporting an ideology couldn't backfire at all on me ever, no siree bob

>I support fascism because *I'll* be in charge, so I'll be doing the shooting, not the one being shot

>I support communism, because *I'll* be the one getting resources redistributed to, not taken away from

>I support libertarianism, because *I'll* be the one with a successful business raking in millions, not a lower-than-minimum wage employee of someone else

>I support nationalism because *I'll* be apart of the nation that has the only correct view of world affairs, not like all those other nations and their views

>I'll get all my info and opinions validated on /pol/, because *I'll* know The Truth™ and be Redpilled©, not like all those SJWs on tumblr with their hugbox

Humanity was a mistake


 No.515155

File: 1458711428352.jpg (130.5 KB, 600x800, 3:4, 1455599097565.jpg)

>>515120

You hit the nail on the head. Extremism of any variety is a sign of low intelligence, because it eschews nuance in favor of a one-size-fits-all, collectivist method of governance.

>gas anyone of Jewish descent, regardless of what their actual personality/beliefs/ideals are

>deport every nigger, regardless who they actually are as an individual

>all white men are privileged, regardless of the actual circumstances of their lives

>attempt to destroy the lives of any white man who doesn't agree with feminist ideology or toe the SJW line, regardless of how they actually treat/view women

the horseshoe is real


 No.515158

>>515155

Low intelligence, or great intelligence and budgeting skills?

Hitler didn't gas literally every jew. He saved the outstanding ones who agreed with him. However, the general policy saved a lot of money in individual evaluations.


 No.515159

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>>515064

tfw you see this building everyday across the UA campus

>>515071

ayy lmao your 'savior' was a Jew nigga

Hope that bug asteroid knocks some sense into you


 No.515161

>>515158

>it's okay to wantonly kill innocent people because we save money by not evaluating them on a case-by-case basis

no, it's still retarded

you'll be lumped in with zoophiles and gassed if this sort of policy ever gets implemented in your country, guaranteed


 No.515164

>>515158

>saved a lot of money

He could have saved more money by not doing it and using those resources for the war effort.


 No.515166

>>515161

I'm not a furry, I'm just here to shitpost :^)

Net profit is the name of the game, by the way.

>>515164

The war effort was just an extension of the jew extermination


 No.515175

>>515166

I'd argue that the war's purpose was to establish Aryan dominance, not only over Jews, but Slavs as well. That's another point, Barbarossa would have been stronger if the Nazis could convince the various ethnicities within the Soviet Union to defect and collaborate, instead the discrimination they faced under Nazi racial ideology made them stick with the communists.

Hitler was an idea-guy and a flawless public speaker, but his impractical obsessions (i.e. extremism) made him shit at running a nation and leading it in war. He got bogged down in useless details like demanding the conquest of Stalingrad, and failed to accomplish his ultimate goal.


 No.515182

File: 1458716727474.jpg (19.89 KB, 336x424, 42:53, serveimage.jpg)

>>515166

>net profit

Right, in the end Germany really prospered from embracing NatSoc.

You'll have to give some sources on the expense of running concentration camps and liquidation vs. profit from seized Jewish wealth and production from labor camps, because my gut says that comes out to a negative balance.


 No.515253

>>515158

Hitler didn't gas a single jew, nor did he want them killed. You need to re-read your Irvings.


 No.515254

>>515253

>he dindu nuffin


 No.515255

No, at least not as the holy books consider. It's impossible for a perfect being to exist anywhere in the universe, if something says it's perfect then you shouldn't trust it.

The universe is too big for one supposedly perfect being, let alone the earth itself. No god is perfect, it's literally impossible


 No.515257

>>515254

He did plenty of things… just not that one


 No.515262

File: 1458745681049.pdf (1.18 MB, Shermer-how-we-know-holoca….pdf)


 No.515269

>>515262

That paper gets its facts wrong on the first page already, so I'll have to drop it.

Besides, I'm not saying no jews were killed, just that they weren't gassed and that Hitler didn't want it to happen


 No.515276

>>515269

Go away, Eva.


 No.515278

File: 1458749199426-0.png (1.45 MB, 1500x2407, 1500:2407, P1.png)

File: 1458749199428-1.png (2.39 MB, 1500x3444, 125:287, P2.png)

>>515253

pics

>>515269

>claims the facts are wrong

>doesn't specify which facts


 No.515280

File: 1458749273176-0.png (2.06 MB, 1500x2702, 750:1351, P3.png)

File: 1458749273177-1.png (1.99 MB, 1500x4091, 1500:4091, P4.png)


 No.515283

File: 1458749797500.gif (1.94 MB, 266x148, 133:74, ninja laughter.gif)

>believe Jesus died on the cross in a gesture of good will towards man

>mfw aforementioned sentence stirs a meaningless debate between two or more morons who will never agree


 No.515289

>>515278

The fact I was referring to was the five to six million number. If it gets that wrong, it's not going to be a very credible source.

And holy shit, someone actually went through the troble of making those insulting, condescending images and expects them to be taken seriously. I'm sorry but no just no. I'll take the word of the well-spoken historian who actually learned German and went to the sources for his research, namely David Irving.


 No.515290

File: 1458750502628.jpg (157 KB, 1052x794, 526:397, prometheus_chained_by_nath….jpg)

>>515283

jesus' supposed death was meaningless. It has no impact on anything. "I died for your sins" is like saying "I hit myself in the face with a shovel for your mortgage"

If dying for your sins was a real thing, why is there still original sin? And if dying for sins means they were forgiven, then why care about committing sins anymore if they don't matter?

Aside from that, jesus was (supposedly) a god anyway, even when he was killed, he knew he was going to heaven and then be resurrected 3 days later anyway. "Death" was nothing more to him than a minor inconvenience. You know who makes a better savior for mankind than jesus? Prometheus.

Prometheus was a god who also created humans, he stole fire from the gods for humanity's benefit, instead of keeping a forbidden fruit away from them to keep them ignorant. And when he was punished, he didn't get to go to a comfy paradise to chillax for 3 days and then go back to earth to laugh at his killers; instead he chained to a rock and a giant fucking eagle rip him open and devour his regenerating liver every day. His sacrifice was more meaningful then jesus'.

Prometheus > Jesus


 No.515291

>>515289

>being butthurt about some fag and using it as an excuse to not look into the facts

Stay ignorant.


 No.515292

>>515291

I'm just trying to help you get more educated.


 No.515295

File: 1458751039012.jpg (1.89 MB, 1500x4010, 150:401, pol happy merchant BTFO.jpg)

>>515292

>IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN 5 MILLION OR ELSE ITS WRONG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


 No.515297

I believe in God, but not in the sense most people would.

I view God as being the essence of Being; it exists in infinite states of existence, thus comprising everything and nothing. To understand how that last part works, I like to think of that one line the villain Syndrome says in the Incredibles: "If everyone is super, no one is." So if everything is God, nothing is too.

In that sense we are a form of God as well. And with infinite states of existence, that means everyone's view of the universe can be correct in a way. Everything's relative to your viewpoint.

Religion is just a former of human organization and control. I personally find worship and the corresponding rituals a waste of my time, but if it makes other people feel better, more power to them.


 No.515299

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>>515292

>I'm just trying to help you get more educated

Except he's not in the wrong here. Refusing to look into facts and views because the person doing it comes off as rude is tone policing, and it's a SJW tactic. Aside from that, we're on 8chan, why you so buttflustered over words? Grow a thicker skin and get over yourself.


 No.515300

>>515295

Everyone knows it wasn't five or six million. Someone claiming that didn't put in the necessary work in research, so it puts their work in doubt.

>>515299

There's rude and then there's those images. And reviewing the tone of the previous posts, I don't think I'm the buttflustered one here.


 No.515301

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>>515300

>everyone knows it wasn't 5-6 million

>if the image is rude then its wrong by default


 No.515302

>Today on /furry/:simple question turns into debate about the holocaust and/or athiesm intensifies

You realize were on a furry board and none of this truly matters right?


 No.515303

>>515300

>Everyone knows it wasn't five or six million

>I didn't click on the related pic in your post

>being THIS confirmation biased


 No.515305

>>515301

Sage for off topic.

I'm surprised how fucking rare that I save an image to my reaction folder anymore. And I say that because thanks for that image.


 No.515309

>>515302

I do, but I rarely troll and seeing all the responses just makes me warm inside.

>>515303

That picture seems to be about the six million number being somehow special, ie. an unrelated claim. Also I find it funny that it tells you in the caption not to trust image macros about Jews, which it itself is.

>>515301

Those images were beyond rude, the guy who made them must have realized nobody was going to take them seriously. They can also be wrong but it's not related to their rudeness.


 No.515311

>>515309

>Those images were beyond rude

nigga what?


 No.515312

File: 1458753184993.jpg (94.97 KB, 352x338, 176:169, 1454124524121.jpg)

>>515309

>Also I find it funny that it tells you in the caption not to trust image macros about Jews, which it itself is

Are you new here? An image macro is a pic with captions in a certain style, bold white lettering with black outlin; see pic related for an example. An image macro is not simply a picture that has some text to go along with it.

>nobody was going to take them seriously

oh ffs stop being a triggered pussy and just look at it.


 No.515313

>>515290

But Jesus was historically documented by his enemies


 No.515314

File: 1458753562847.gif (568.54 KB, 150x171, 50:57, tumblr _.gif)

>>515309

>I-I'm n-not going to l-look at your p-pic

>I'It might h-hurt my dewicate f-feewings

>I-I c-can't stand it w-when p-people o-online make fun of me

>I though /furry/ was supposed to be my safe space? ;w;

>>>/tumblr/


 No.515315

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>>514925

I worship the one true Dog, I am willing to do anything to please her


 No.515316

>>515313

Source?

>>515315

Wrong board, pal

>>>/zoo/


 No.515317

Bring out the toys


 No.515319

>>515316

(っ'з')っ That's what you think


 No.515321

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>>514925

Personally? No. But that's irrelevant; even if god is real I wouldn't worship him. I'm an anarchist and believe god should hold no power over me or others. He is no authority to rule over anyone or force anyone into doing anything. If god existed, it would be necessary to abolish him. god plays the role of a tyrant, born into power by birth and his arbitrary laws are a transgression upon my personal autonomy.


 No.515322

>>515319

>That's what you think

No actually he's right, it's in the rules.

http://8ch.net/furry/rules.html

>Beastiality goes in /zoo/, and not here

>(っ'з')っ

>>>/suicide/


 No.515323

>>515312

My apologies, it actually said 'redpill macros'.

>>515314

I think you might be confusing me for some other type of person. I don't have feelings invested in this one way or the other.

There's literally no reason to read something as poorly put together (and yes, insulting) as that when the same facts could be brought forward in a perfectly civilized manner. I mean it even calls me an American, of all things.

Let me point you to a good talk by an actual historian on Hitler and how the 'official' story might not be entirely correct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tABCVg6qODg


 No.515324

>>515322

it's ok anon only degenerates visit 8chan, you don't have to pretend not to be dogfuckers for our sake


 No.515327

>>515323

>There's literally no reason to read something as poorly put together

>implying official documents are not evidence

Please kill yourself

>>515324

>implying


 No.515329

File: 1458756386370.webm (1.68 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, dog aesthetic.webm)

>>515321

my nigger

>>514925

sage because fuck your spooks


 No.515330

>>515280

the last of the pics from your "proof" or "fact" are the most subjetive shit that i never ever fucking read, using the page "http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/" like the only source of "truth" denotes the poverty in terms of research of the creator of the image, and who post, (you)

First the page says "dedicated to 12 million Holocaust victims who suffered and died at the hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime." basically they weren't 6 million, the page says 12 million…

ok lest says it's a perfect page with irrefutable facts, so overlooked…

but wait… in another page who claims to be an open debate for the holocaus had the following quote:

>Nizkor has at various times reported "nearly twelve million" victims and "millions of victims." They have become more decisive recently and support the number 12 million. This number is a wild exaggeration. For a time supporters of the orthodox Holocaust story suggested 11 million victims. The idea was six million Jewish victims and an additional five million "other victims." Peter Novick points out in his book, The Holocaust in American Life that this number "makes no historical sense." The eleven million number originated with none other than Simon Wiesenthal. According to Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer, Wiesenthal admitted in a private conversation that he simply invented the figure. (See Novick, p. 215). Novick also notes that "before the late seventies, few in the United States had ever heard the figure "eleven million." Nizkor's dedication shows their lack of objectivity on this subject. Their figure is not supported by historians on either side of the debate.

>Nizkor then supplies the question, "Given the evidence, why do people deny the Holocaust"?The answer they provide is "The real purpose of holocaust revisionism is to make National Socialism an acceptable political alternative again." To support this quote, Nizkor cites the obscure "group" the National Socialist White People's Party and specifically Harold Covington. Although this quote supports Nizkor's worldview it is a blatantly false statement. Rather than quoting from a reliable revisionist source, Nizkor has chosen to cite a neo-Nazi organization and utilized a bit of circular logic. Of course Nizkor would not quote early revisionist pioneer Harry Elmer Barnes who explains that "Revisionism means nothing more or less than the effort to correct the historical record in the light of a more complete collection of historical facts, a more calm political atmosphere, and a more objective attitude."

>In fact, revisionism is not a political movement and its adherents come from every place in the political spectrum from the far left to the far right with most in the United States supporting either Democrats or Republicans. Nizkor's use of this quote is a bit of a slogan for them that they have used for some ten years. It is a stereo-type and just out and out anti-revisionist propaganda.

Finally, the Nizkorites tell us that "Nizkor is a Hebrew word which means 'We will remember.'" Although no expert in Hebrew, this appears to be a valid translation.

basically your last pic whit "facts" can be full of subjectivity that you put as facts, without even looking other sources, anyways i don't care if these were 600 trillions of jews, they still seeing us as inferiors goys :^)

bibliography:

http://codoh.com/

http://www.nizkor.org/


 No.515336

>>515327

There you go with the same rudeness as those images. Did you put them together or were you just influenced by the writing style? I would never tell you to kill yourself simply because you are misguided or mistaken about history.

I can see two or three German scans there. The first is from a speech which talks about evacuation and 'Ausrottung' which basically means unrooting. My German isn't perfect but to me it is talking about transporting the jews away from the reich. The second scan seems to be a report from Russia (or Ukraine) where executions did indeed take place. The rest is some translated, unsourced stuff, could be of any origin, I'm not going to bother with them.

(resending because the server is having some issues again, my apologies if this shows up twice)


 No.515337

>>514925

Yes. The Lord is my Shepard, there is nothing in shall want.


 No.515346

>>515330

>First the page says "dedicated to 12 million Holocaust victims who suffered and died at the hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime." basically they weren't 6 million, the page says 12 million

I think you're confused, there were estimated ~12 million victims of the holocaust, but not all of them were jews, around ~5 million of the holocaust victims were jews

>codoh

Codoh is a revisionist holocaust-denial website masquerading as "we're not denying the holocaust, we're just 'questioning' it, now look at all these criticisms saying it never happened without any viewpoints from the other side" but anyway…

>The idea was six million Jewish victims and an additional five million "other victims."

Here you can clearly tell the advocation of holocaust denial by making it say "other victims", no shit. Remember holocaust is a hebrew word used to denote a mass murder, not simply "the holocaust" aka nazi death camps in germany. As for the other victims, they're mostly russians for the mass murder in russia.

>According to Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer, Wiesenthal admitted in a private conversation that he simply invented the figure

It's one guy's word against the other guy's word in this case. not proof. Who's to say he's not lying?

>Nizkor then supplies the question, "Given the evidence, why do people deny the Holocaust"?…etc.

Irrelevent to how many jews died

>>515336

>The first is from a speech which talks about evacuation and 'Ausrottung' which basically means unrooting. My German isn't perfect but to me it is talking about transporting the jews away from the reich.

In that case take your dumb ass back to german class, here's the translation:

I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.' And then they turn up, the upstanding 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say the others are all swines, but this particular one is a splendid Jew. But none has observed it, endured it. Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when there are 500 or when there are 1,000. To have endured this and at the same time to have remained a decent person — with exceptions due to human weaknesses — has made us tough, and is a glorious chapter that has not and will not be spoken of. Because we know how difficult it would be for us if we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and rabble-rousers in every city, what with the bombings, with the burden and with the hardships of the war. If the Jews were still part of the German nation, we would most likely arrive now at the state we were at in 1916 and 17 […]

moar info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches (be sure to check the holocaust denial section of the page)

>There you go with the same rudeness as those images

8chan is not a safe space faggot. gb2tumblr


 No.515363

>>515336

If you actually looked at >>515262 instead of dismissing it after reading the first page, you would see that it addresses the Ausrottung issue. Notably, Nazi officials use the that word for lice, enemy soldiers, and Jews, and it does mean extermination. You wouldn't transport lice or enemy soldiers away.

Then again, it also addresses how holocaust deniers tend to ignore facts that don't fit in with their conclusion, so you probably won't read it.

No one is obliged to be nice to you, please stop being so thin-skinned.


 No.515367

>>515336

"Aus" means "out" not "un"

The word "Ausrottung", broken down literally, is "Out-rooting" or rooting out.


 No.515375

File: 1458763931402.jpeg (13.67 KB, 196x160, 49:40, image.jpeg)

>god discussion

>in a furry board

>in 2016

>yolocaust discussion

>in a furry board

>in 2016

>not talking about what happened to Tower 7

Wow you furry guys sure know how to change the opinions in someone. Thanks for the redpills Galileo.

Polite sage of course.


 No.515378

File: 1458765027305.jpg (12.15 KB, 235x191, 235:191, 9cca84e04852.jpg)

Well, I am agnostic so the existence of God is not out of the que– oh holy shit this thread is so derailed into shit no way I'll re-rail it no matter how on-topic my post would be.


 No.515380

>>515378

>agnostic

Oh? You really think there could be a batman? You're just not sure?


 No.515408

File: 1458770082617.jpg (56.73 KB, 919x720, 919:720, 4ReqKsK.jpg)

>>515375

>tfw you will never know what happened to tower 7 for certain


 No.515421

File: 1458773045522.jpg (168.57 KB, 1016x970, 508:485, bait for the bait god.jpg)

>>514925

There's only one god I believe in.


 No.515438

>>515408

It was on fire for like four hours nonstop. You light fucking anything on fire for that long and it will collapse unless it's literally fireproof.


 No.515447

>>514925

Ye

On a side note I hate Jesus furry, it makes me feel weird and uncomfortable. Not kidding, I really dont know why.


 No.515464

>>514925

nope (see Shantideva's Bodhisattvacaryavatara ch. 9 for my reasoning which is *strictly* "anatman")

Christianity's an upstart religion based on Greek mystery cults that only does any good for anyone when it's a distinctly minority view standing in direct opposition to and oppressed by imperial power. It's also basically a simpleton's creed, just like Islam.


 No.515467

>>515447

Probably because it's stealing a bit of your culture, and combining it with a cult leader.

You've got your own identity stolen and replaced with some religious fuckery. Same thing happened to pagans back in the day.

Christianity corrupts stuff. It's a virus that works by offering immortality to mortals, and gets them to tell their friends about it.


 No.515536

File: 1458783325323.gif (1.94 MB, 235x180, 47:36, 1442700592066-2.gif)

>>515467

>christianity offers you immortality in exchange for money and goods to the church

>christianity says for you to tell all your friends and family about it so they can join too

>christianity later turns out to have lied to you from the beginning

>you wasted all your time and money for nothing and made a larger establishment more successful through your gullibility

>christianity was the original pyramid scheme


 No.515539

File: 1458783780944.jpg (12.61 KB, 500x348, 125:87, F511.jpg)

>>515408

Never give up brother! The shadow masters will be revealed brought down!

>>515438

Nice fucking try Obama


 No.515594

File: 1458788818123.png (1.66 MB, 800x1200, 2:3, I want batman.png)


 No.515641

File: 1458798119397.png (214.62 KB, 1116x743, 1116:743, ok.png)

I wasn't brought up with any religion beyond passing mentions that "god is a thing, also jesus I guess".

Never went to church or anything unless it was with a relative. I'm not even sure what sect I was supposed to be. So no, don't believe in god. The very idea of it is invasive to how I understand reality, and there's no evidence, so it is completely dismissed.


 No.515679

File: 1458805389414.jpeg (82.05 KB, 780x440, 39:22, behad.jpeg)

>>515278

>Europe

>not a shithole


 No.516502

if i don't believe in the flying spaghetti monster, i'll gonna yiff in hell???


 No.516509

With fucks like us that exist, no.


 No.516514

>>516502

hell isn't that bad in the FSM religion; it's the same as heaven except the beer is warm and all the hookers have STDs

So if you like warm beer and you're a pozfag, then FSM hell is actually heaven


 No.516522

File: 1458955234390-0.jpg (76.95 KB, 800x1088, 25:34, Out for a hike -BlueZJessi.jpg)

File: 1458955234449-1.jpg (47.52 KB, 600x623, 600:623, Hymming a hymn.jpg)

File: 1458955234463-2.jpg (140.14 KB, 1206x806, 603:403, Preach it Furry brothers.jpg)

MTC District before I went on my LDS Mission to Chihuahua. They caught me looking at another piece that a friend drew and all wanted a fursona of their own. She didn't have enough time to do us all seperately so we "group photo'd"

Third one is by the same artist

Other one is myself and a sister missionary (serving in Spain) singing during Christmas.


 No.516528

File: 1458955606359.jpg (94.76 KB, 500x500, 1:1, Into the lake of fire it g….jpg)

>>516522

>Mormons


 No.516530

>>516528

You're just butthurt over Cruz winning Utah. I voted Trump, if that means anything to you.


 No.516531

>>516530

>You're just butthurt over Cruz winning Utah

No actually I'm just throwing your fusona into the trash because Moronism has no basis in christianity and Joeseph Smith was a conman and a faggot. He deserved to get shot by that angry mob.

>I voted Trump, if that means anything to you

Maybe you're not completely useless…


 No.516534

File: 1458956675267.png (284.04 KB, 653x903, 653:903, ClipboardImage.png)

>>514925

Long story short yes.


 No.517358

even if god existed at one point in time, this thread is full proof that god is dead


 No.517386




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