No.130
>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM use
>Unity is going through its 7th rewrite, God knows if they're using QML or libNux or Whatever this time
>XFCE is practically in life support mode
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
>LXDE is awkwardly in an incomplete phase changing to Qt
>Cinnamon is just Gnome Shell (with its share of memory leaks in a fucking DE) with some Brazillian extensions bolted on
>Pantheon is a pretty but useless joke
>Enlightenment is useless in real life
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
>Other *box are basically dead because all the *box hipsters have migrated to Openbox
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
Welp, why is there no good choice of DE/WM in the glorious land of GNU/Linux in 2014?
All of them are shit.
No.136
Most DEs/WMs are good enough wtf is your problem OP I don't want updates or gimmicks to make it more impressive or feel like its constantly being worked on damn I'm fine like this. Leave me and XFCE alone holy shit they control us because of you.
No.139
OP have you tried KDE on Arch Linux?
No.196
>>136tiling wm are superior I am considering all de as bloat or just pure shit.
I am not OP by the way.
No.266
>>130KDE is the best DE for normalfag (nobody on any chan )Windows baby ducks.
xmonad is the best WM. perfect multiple monitor support without even trying.
compiled binary is actually very small and efficient (despite the big haskell dependencies).
the contrib package adds a shitload of features to use.
the sky is the limit for xmonad.
it has two downsides.
haskell dependencies take up space on the harddrive.
so far no waylandmonad.
No.274
>>Tiling WMs are too try hard
Are you angry because you don't know how to use them or what?
No.289
>>130>xfce>deadhttp://git.xfce.org/?s=idlelooks to me like it's just not something you want
No.309
fuck I use gnome but I didn't know about that SJW shit.
No.311
ARCH LINUX ON KDE
No.334
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
pleb
No.371
>>309Same, and I hate those fuckers with the burning passion of 2^97 suns
No.374
>>130
>Pantheon is a pretty but useless jokeHaven't tried eOS yet, care to elucidate?
No.417
>>309why would SJW want to infiltrate linux communities what would they gain anyway?
Someone's probably butthurt and stirring some shit.
No.531
>>Tiling WMs are too try hard
git gud :^)
No.719
XFCE has completed its goals. Why would you keep writing software when it does what you want? That's just stupid.
No.722
>>130i3 is a tiling wm and it's pretty easy to use. The workspace management automatic, just like Gnome. The configuration syntax is pretty simple and self-explanatory. It runs i3bar automatically and it has the usual time and date, battery and notification icons (along with some extra stuff like load average and network activity). It's fully configurable and uses only 7MiB of RAM. Use nitrogen, xsetroot or similar program to change the background (i3 doesn't do that for you, but you can use .xinitrc or .xsessionrc). It's also possible to use it with XFCE, replacing the panel and window manager.
The downside is that it doesn't have the a11y features of KDE or Gnome. If you use those features, stick with an accessible DE and download more RAM. Some menu accelerators don't work in the default config, so if you use those then just change Mod1 to Mod4 in the config (or use other solutions mentioned in the FAQ).
No.728
>>722i3 is pretty great, takes all of 10 minutes to learn.
No.806
>>374I installed eOS once, fucking horrid.
>click that pantheon menu>a delay>it was annoying>I think that it might crash my computer if I hit it 5 times>I hit it 5 times>crashMy computer is nice too, just don't use eOS it's garbage.
No.810
>>130life without x is the only way to go.
if you become proficient with screen and tmux you can be independent of all this shit and live your life the way Torvalds intended
No.811
>>266how can xmonads multiple monitor support be better then i3, it might be equal
No.819
>/ (find)
>"Pattern not found: awesome"
I'm dissapointed, /g/
No.820
Windowmaker friend.
You can make it look more modern, but a UI is made to get things done, not look pretty.
Tiling WMs aren't try hard at all either, but I can understand not wanting to learn how to move around with them.
Also, a lot of textmode programs are great and far easier to use than GUI based ones, so maybe not as a replacement, but I would make use of the TTYs
No.829
Maybe you'd have a better time, OP, if you didn't care about the politics of your DE. I use GNOME even though I do not agree completely with it's Outreach program. Why? Because I'm a fucking adult.
No.954
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
No.962
>>130Call me a faggot but I like cinnamon on Linux Mint.
No.975
>>130>Not mentioning KDE Plasma 5>Hardware acceleration expanded>Overhauled KDE libraries>Ram usage dropped massively>Very polished>High hopes for crisper themes>Still many bugsimplying
>is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM use No.976
>>130>>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)u wot
>>Enlightenment is useless in real lifeu fukken wot
Please stop.
No.1036
xfce master race
No.1040
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
If it continues to work with current software, who cares
sounds like the most fixable one in the list
No.1086
All you faggot babbies who need a GUI. stfu and lrn2bash
CLI IS LOVE CLI IS LIFE
No.1088
>>417they want to infiltrate e v e r y t h i n g man. nothing can be un-sjw.
No.1103
>>417Man the thing about gnome, it's true
Unfortunately.
No.1131
No.1139
Nice pasta :^)
No.1226
>>130>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)Open source software shouldn't depend on money in the first place. So what if the gnome project invested their money in the wrong way. Also outreach for women is necessary. Can't comment on the effectiveness though.
Considering most of GTK+/GNOME development is now dictated by Redhat anyway, the OFW shouldn't worry you.
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM uselol plasma
>Unity is going through its 7th rewrite, God knows if they're using QML or libNux or Whatever this timeThe global menu bar / indicators are really nice. This can be ported to gnome2/mate/xfce though.
No.1601
Ututo + KDE master race reporting in.
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM useDisable nepomuk and semantic-desktop USE flags and you're god-tier.
>>1226>lol plasmaThis guy gets it. It's the most RAM-hungry process, but the whole system is far below 512MB on my setup.
In the end, a complete desktop -- more features than any of the competitors -- and it Just Werkz. FOSS without Poettering.
That said, ALSA still bothers me three or four times a year when I try to use HDMI audio (and have to hack up an .asoundrc file), but that may be because I'm a lazy retard. It's better than the alternatives.
No.1614
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
I like MATE! It's the only thing that will run on my Alienware
>inb4 alienfag
No.1975
>>1086i think you mean L2shell
No.2015
xfce is boss
No.2034
I've heard fluxbox is bretty ok.
No.2049
6 months later and OP is still completely right. KDE is the only usable option and it's a joke compared to what KDE 3 was at the end of its life. Truly we live in dreadful times, especially since KDE5 (fuck you, name autists) is going to require systemd parts to actually work at all.
>>1601Use OSS, fag.
No.2073
>no cwm
do you even hipster, faggot?
No.2093
Dont use a DE. Install Awesome WM. Learn for a week. Be happy.
No.2100
>>374
OP is right on this one, I did tried eOs when Freya came out, I won't lie, I does look beautifull,and is easy to move around, but that's it, it is an useless joke.
Kinda like a Mac, it is pretty, but shit nontheless
No.2103
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
>Being this retarded
There's already been movement towards GTK3.
Listen to a goddamned interview with whassisname. Martin.
No.2125
>>829
No you're not, as seen by your lack of reading comprehension skills.
While the OP is against SJW shit, his main claim was that the Outreach for Women project was bankrupting GNOME, not that he'd specifically stop using GNOME because of their politics.
Get off your high horse.
No.2126
>>962
Sounds like a cake or an ice-cream flavor.
No.2162
>>2093
Awesome WM is the buggiest, most unreliable WM I've ever used. If you're retarded enough to think rice > usability, choose i3. Otherwise, stick with productive WMs that actually work.
No.2163
>>2103
Dayum, maybe mate truly is the future after all. Will they start developing new programs too or are they simply going to keep mate in its "vanilla" frozen state with maintenance? I'd love to have a KDE-free krunner or maintained kupfer as well as a notification stack.
No.2322
I'm actually using LXQt and it's a really nice Qt5 desktop. Too bad that Qt5 has no Gtk theme management. For fuck's sake. When Gtk 3.0 landed, all the faggot devs got together to support it in a heartbeat, but Qt5 gets no fucking love whatsoever. I bet all those Gnome queers, that deny Gnome being a tablet DE, secretly love it for being a tablet DE.
No.2350
>>962
Faggot
>>130
NemoShell isn't out yet :(
Really everything sucks and we should look at new ways to interact with the system.
Virtual Reality is the future.
No.2351
No.2512
>Xfce is dead/deprecated
this is a bad and false meme
No.2614
rio and dwm are the only ones I've tried and they're both fine. i3 looks cool, too. i thjink i'll try it some day.
No.2615
>>1086
>>1131
i think you mean rc
No.2646
No.2667
>Tiling WMs are too hard
here's your problem
No.2671
>>130
>>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
>LKLM to be more "female friendly"
source? I searched to no avail
No.2682
>millenium 2000 + 15
>not using a custom dwm setup with diverse source code changes and patches
git gud
No.2683
>>130
Nigger what about Sugar?
Obviously superior to everything.
No.2687
I'm using i3, and I love it. People who complain that tiling wm's are too hard should really try it. I didn't like awesomewm when I tried it, but i3 seems so natural and easy to use, I'd really recommend it to everyone.
Learning to use mod+shift and the arrow keys to move windows is really no more difficult than using a mouse. If you're worried that using keyboard keys to manipulate your computer is scary or difficult in some way, then don't be. It's really simple and cozy, and dmenu is excellent.
No.2959
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"
Source? I believe you - but I'm just compiling a list of "comapnies to avoid" as this SJW cancer continues to spread.
No.2965
What's wrong with tiling wms? They make it easier to multitask imo. I thought awesome was pretty good and would recommend it. Most people seem to prefer i3 or bspwm though
Currently I'm using stumpwm because muh lisp
No.3001
>>819
>/ (find)
Hell yeah, just installed VimFX today. It's excellent.
No.3034
No.3035
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
"I don't feel cool enough when using it because people who use it care that they're cool."
>XFCE is practically in life support mode
It's basically the most common DE on the market besides Gnome or Unity
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
It's the opposite of obsolete, kek. It's the continuation of gnome 2 to keep it from being obsolete.
>Pantheon is pretty
It's a shitty start button plugin on gnome with a stupid mac clone theme.
No.3039
>>130
>too "try hard"
Yeah, you're a fag
No.3044
>>2163
Part of the benefit of ubuntu-mate is he can tinker a bit more. Like adding the drop-down terminal & synapse. As far as developing new software, not that I'm aware of.
No.3454
All the time and resources spent on cinnamon, unity and other GTK3 desktops could have been spent adding features to MATE, which was already working and stable.
Instead, we got re-inventions of the wheel.
No.4104
ChromiumOS works great with none of the above problems.
No.4108
>>130
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
The problem with tiling window managers is that it's almost impossible to realize how much you want one until you've used one for a few months already.
Then you'll miss it. i3 is great.
No.4109
>Outreach Program for Women
GNOOOOOOOOOOOOME
No.4117
>>1975
What's that? EUMEL?