UN: Video Games turns children into killing zombies Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:02:03 7c2f12 No. 278264
It's official folks, it's under the chapter "Conclusions and principles for further action" of this UN's commission report:
http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf
Page 48 of the document.
> There is widespread representation of VAWG in mainstream culture, including in contemporary and popular music, movies, the gaming industry and the general portrayal of women in popular media. Recent research on how violent video games are turning children, mostly boys, into ‘killing zombies’ are also a part of mainstreaming violence. And while the presentation and analysis of this research is beyond the scope of this paper119, the links to the core roots of the problem are very much in evidence and cannot be overlooked.
Source used by the UN for the quoted above:
> PROGRAMMED TO KILL - Video Games, Drugs, and The ‘New Violence’ https://archive.is/AONtG
From which:
> The very same video games which were originally designed to train soldiers to kill, are those being mass marketed today—to children! This is the shocking fact documented by Lt. Colonel David Grossman, an Army psychologist who has specialized in the training of troops for combat.
Which was already debunked as shown by our friends over at KiA
red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3ma09l/misc_un_broadband_commissions_report_recent/
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:03:59 f8c8e8 No. 278266
Time Magazine
https://archive.is/mrVYv
>The U.N. defines violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts.”
>The report notes that cyber violence is an extension of that definition, that includes acts like trolling, hacking, spamming, and harassment.
>The report also argues that “cyber touch is recognized as equally as harmful as physical touch,” suggesting that online harassment might be just as lethal as domestic violence or sexual abuse.
>“Whether you are dead because your partner shot you or beat you up, or you killed yourself because you couldn’t bear cyber-bullying, or you were exposed to many of the sites that lead people to suicide pacts— bottom line, we lose a life.”
>Even with her position at the U.N., Mlambo-Ngcuka says it’s been difficult to convince some people that this is a problem to take seriously.
>She recalled some resistance from industry leaders, particularly in the gaming space, who seemed to think that cyber violence was not their problem.
>“The attitude was like, ‘this sells, this is a business we make money off it, so what are you asking us, to reduce profits?'”
>she says. “This gentlemen said to me, ‘Lady, you are so intense, chill!’”
>She emphasized that cyber violence exists on a continuum with physical violence, and that both problems are byproducts of a society that is inherently unequal for women.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:06:42 98e346 No. 278268
>violence against women is bad
>appoints Saudi Arabia as head of human rights
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:10:45 8633ec No. 278271
>>278268
Anita shaking the hands of the Saudi Arabian reps would be the funniest thing ever.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:12:00 344c4d No. 278272
>>278264
>https://archive.is/AONtG
Another gem from that article:
>The only national leader to identify the nature of the crisis and to pose a solution, was economist and then-candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Lyndon H. LaRouche.
>On March 3, in a dialogue with Hispanic-American leaders, LaRouche said:
>"We’re getting killings which are caused by the use of Nintendo-style games, such as the game Pokémon, with children, and also with police and others. In the case of the Diallo shooting, the problem was that the Mayor of New York, like many other officials, has been training the police force in Nintendo-style killing techniques. . . . So we have Nintendo-killers."
NINTENDO-STYLE KILLINGS
And they used this article as a source.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:12:44 427195 No. 278273
>>278264
>The very same video games which were originally designed to train soldiers to kill
>FPS
>Wolfenstein
>created to train soldiers to kill
Are they even trying anymore?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:13:27 8633ec No. 278274
can you provide the original link as well? Archive.is hates Finland.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:15:26 7c2f12 No. 278278
Some stuff that can be found inside the sources cited by the UN in pic related.
Did you know you are playing the games of the devil you innocent /v/irgins?
Did you know Pokémon is not as innocent as it appears and it's actually, gasp , abbreviation of Pocket fucking Monsters? And it turns 2 y.o. into killing machines at an older age?
Oh you have so much to learn you naive gamers…
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:15:50 344c4d No. 278279
>>278274
This is the original link provided on footnote 118 (page 61 of the report):
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/
articles/New_violence.html
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:18:06 7c2f12 No. 278281
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:19:00 7c2f12 No. 278284
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:20:48 973465 No. 278287
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:21:34 7c2f12 No. 278288
One more detail.
The UN cites that research as recent.
It's from 2000.
Is this real life? Is this L&O SVU all over again?
We should get Milo, Usher, etc. all on this.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 04:57:08 85ce69 No. 278311
The UN is full of retards. Who takes them seriously?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:11:41 22e173 No. 278315
Like the UN is going to protect us from zombies…
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:31:11 8633ec No. 278325
>>278311
Anita takes it seriously enough to push stupid shit like the article in there.
And our corrupt gaming media helped her to get that far with claims that gamers are the spawns of satan doing Nintendo-murders.
We can rub this on the face of the gaming media, especially if we get direct footage of her endorsing that study and trying to push it in the UN.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:33:27 5bc25b No. 278326
>this shit again
Only difference, the fucking retarded, backboneless fucks in the gaming industry are going to go along with it this time. Fuck it. I'm done. Just going to play my backlog now and let it all burn and die. None of it is worth saving.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:36:35 38da25 No. 278327
>>278268
UN in a nutshell.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:38:00 6b2621 No. 278330
>>278264
Oh god this shit is way too dumb. This might be the point it blows up in their faces entirely. They're shitting on a market too large to take this sitting down, this SJW pissing contest will get very real.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:43:40 6de173 No. 278332
>>278264
Someone send this to Turnitin.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:47:10 23c33d No. 278333
>>278330
Yeah, this could be a turning point against these assholes.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:55:16 4a1ee3 No. 278337
We've done it, folks.
We've officially come back round to the early 90's.
Every feminist, every trendy socialite that bears the label 'nerd', and would be 'do-gooders' are decrying games because it turns people into "killing" (violent) "zombies"
God bless the politically correct, thanks for the laugh.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 05:57:21 8633ec No. 278338
>>278337
God bless our gaming media for helping out these retards instead of fighting against censorship.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 06:19:31 587dd3 No. 278342
>>278337
>We've officially come back round to the early 90's.
Freaking SWEET! When will the kickass games come back then?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 06:46:54 457a97 No. 278352
I love this shit
absolutely love it
the crazier things get the more hilarious the inevitable downfall will be
fuck the UN
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 06:52:08 40013f No. 278357
>cyber
>violence
pick 1
if society has any sense left at all, a term like this this should be mocked until nobody dares use it anymore
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 06:53:57 8633ec No. 278358
>>278357
Funniest thing is that all of this is happening at the exact same time when UN promotes Saudi Arabia as the chair for Human rights. Sarkeesian is pushing for games censorship in the UN at the same time their human rights-team is populated with people who force their women to wear burqas.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 07:46:33 2b0e0c No. 278375
>>278266
>psychological harm
>cyber violence
>cyber touch is recognized as equally as harmful as physical touch
>>278278
>>278288
>>278337
This isn't from the early '90s, I'm pretty sure these are literally the same materials used by Jack Thompson from the late '90s up until his downfall in the middle '00s, all through the Dubya years. Isn't it amazing to recall how much harsher the journos, the industry, and the “indie” clique were in attacking him and his ilk than we are in dealing with them after they turned traitor?
>>278311
There are people in the UN who deal with real murder, real assault, real rape, real misogyny, and real patriarchy on a scale these tittering faggots can't even comprehend with their heads jammed so deep up their rectums. I'll bet they could give a presentation that would give them the triggering of a lifetime if they were in the same department as this cockamamie “Working Group on Broadband and Gender.”
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 08:15:40 0ec43c No. 278390
Holy shit.
Killing zombies, satanic games.
Is there an OP to check all of the resources yet?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 08:23:59 0db710 No. 278395
>actual child soldiers in Africa and the Middle East
>let's focus on video games instead
At least it's in line with stopping the 'objectification' of fictional women instead of pushing for women's rights in Islamic nations.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 09:47:34 034e73 No. 278432
>>278395
Then I guess it's finally time for us to form Outer Heaven in Mars
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 09:59:43 a63f89 No. 278439
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >aGG has literally been reduced to this guy
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 10:22:43 818945 No. 278449
>>278439
But anon.
They were always them, just disguised as progresive retards.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 11:19:13 7c2f12 No. 278470
Can't wait for the memes you glorious faggots will make out of this clusterfuck
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 11:31:58 bc77e7 No. 278476
>>278272
Petrol bomb! I choose you!
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 11:33:32 eac8e5 No. 278478
I got red-pilled about the UN during the mid to late-90s when the Patriot Movement was at its peak & William Cooper was still alive. The UN has always been and always will be shit. Fuck the UN.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 11:57:12 a08749 No. 278488
>>278395
> a saudi in human rights
They now just wait for petrodollars.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 12:21:22 33b280 No. 278504
>>278478
For me it was kosovo.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 12:41:04 b230a9 No. 278515
>>278278
Bitches didn't even get Cazic-Thule's portfolio right, he's the god of fear primarily worshipped by lizardmen.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 12:54:33 b230a9 No. 278524
>>278515
In another twist, most of Everquests lore was written by Tony "Vhalen Nostrolo" Garcia.
A in their own words - oppressed minority.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 13:16:54 24e18d No. 278537
It's like Jack Thompson all over again.
Only this time, gaming media and some large players in the industry are against us because of "progressive."
Watch Bioware/EA and Ubisoft cry themselves to sleep when their Canadian government shuts down violence in their games.
They will know they pushed for this. They made this happen. All because they were suckered in by some con-artist manipulators waving the neo-femnist flag of "harassment."
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 13:21:46 2b5fc4 No. 278541
>>278264
>quoting David Grossman
He's a relic from the Jack Thompson age. If they want to ban video games, they should be quoting modern anti-video game activists like Anita Sarkeesian.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 13:53:25 e4f52c No. 278550
We need to get passions flaring online about this. Make sure ALL devs know about this that they're under anow and they might lose their job at any second because Satan. Insinuate that it maybe their own fault or more probably to get emthen drop that itsthe ones who held them down and forced them into silence aka their bosses that allowed this threat of extinction to happen. Make them know that their reward for toeing theAt every moment r migthis whole time may oblivion. This is just the thing we needed to start a full dev revolt don't let the opportunity slip by.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 13:55:09 e4f52c No. 278552
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 13:56:39 e4f52c No. 278553
>>278550
>under anow
"Under a theocracy now" jesus what went wrong with me?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 14:14:28 818945 No. 278566
Please, I'm done with this. I want to get out this ride, I had enouth!
Give me the blue pill or just give me a gun! I want to end it all!
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 14:25:23 e38328 No. 278574
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>278287
>What is this, 1992?
yes.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 15:29:22 ed9727 No. 278616
>>278566
You're free to do whatever you want, anon.
Just…if you're going to fall off the ride, don't hit anyone else on your way down.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 15:38:05 47650d No. 278629
The fuck do we do now. There's literally half an internet calling their bullshit and they just keep rolling through pretending we're eating their shit. Who do we go to now?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 15:56:54 bf7d53 No. 278635
>>278566
If you leave it, it will get worse.
If you fight it, you'll have a chance.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 15:59:51 ed9727 No. 278637
>>278629
We go to the Leader of Gamergate, of course.
Why do we fall?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:00:16 818945 No. 278638
>>278616
>>278635
>>278596
Is just that I can't take anymore.
This is like a lovecraft story, the more I know, the more I'm loosing my sanity.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:19:18 ed9727 No. 278647
>>278638
Nobody's asking you to bear more than you can. If you're scared, know that there are others like you who are also scared. Don't use your fear as an excuse to back down in the face of those who hate you, even if they haven't met you.
This storm will pass, as they all do. Lift up your head and look towards tomorrow.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:29:00 878d63 No. 278653
>>278638
Hey, I see a perfect opportunity to drive this shit into the absurd depths that It could go. They just gave us material to work with. We should mold the madness and exploit this grotesque find. Nintendo style murder, its perfect madness shambling off my tongue. We should crush them with their own brand of madness.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:32:12 e97dbb No. 278654
http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/10/22/online-harassment/
pls, tell me more about female cyber violence.
Or is this going to become "Listen and believe!" that recorded and collected documents as info and facts are insignificant and verbal speaking "Because I said so!" is the equivalent of a natural law?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:34:12 818945 No. 278655
>>278647
>>278653
…can you at least hug me while the storm is over?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:34:38 818945 No. 278657
>>278655
**until the storm is over I mean.
Fuck, I'm so scared I'm forgetting how to write.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 16:41:31 ed9727 No. 278660
>>278657
Only if you hug me back.
You're not alone.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:02:00 9f0947 No. 278667
>>278655
Take a break if you need it, Leader. Play some vidya. You've earned it.
We are Gandalf, and this is motherfucking Bridge of Khazad-dûm.
And motherfuckers Shall. Not. Pass.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:08:07 818945 No. 278670
>>278660
>>278667
Please anons, tell me we will win. Tell me we'll defeat those whales and our waifus will wait for us.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:18:17 7c2f12 No. 278674
>>278638
Take a break. That's good enough at least for me. Then come back with your senses in place and with new good ideas.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:37:51 ed9727 No. 278686
>>278670
I have nothing to offer you except blood, toil, tears, and sweat. What you choose to build from that will be what is remembered.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:42:38 7c2f12 No. 278689
The following can be found in pages 24 and 25 of the document.
So, the UN simply listened & believed GG is a harassing campaign.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:47:33 56f8dc No. 278693
>>278670
Tell you that we'll win? Tell you that we will win?
Tell yourself that we will win. Tell yourself that you will win..if you fight .
If you don't, the landwhales will either kill your waifu or inflate her to a comparable, body-positive size–and they will not stop there.
Now, you tell me if you're going to whimper in front of your enemies, knowing what they threaten to take from you.
There is no getting off this ride. Therefore, do not go into battle thinking you'll lose.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:51:03 7c2f12 No. 278695
One more.
They're pushing for citizen to citizens censorship and denunciation of suspicious speech to authorities.
Any resemblance to the USSR (where it was famous that even children were proud when denouncing their own rebellious parents to The Party due to school indoctrination) is mere coincidence.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 17:52:28 7c2f12 No. 278696
>>278695
Forgot to indicate where the first image is from: page 27, chapter 4 of the UN's report "Tackling Cyver VAWG A Multi-Level Approach"
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:12:47 587dd3 No. 278701
>>278537
The accumulated filth of all their prudes and appeasers will foam up about their waists and all the sellouts and con artists will look up and shout "Save us!"… and we'll whisper "Check your privileges CISlords."
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:19:54 818945 No. 278705
>>278693
You know, that actually encouraged me a bit. In fact, seeing them spilling spaggetti everywere is making us look good.
Or maybe I just got mad and I'm deluting myself?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:20:42 6b2621 No. 278706
>>278638
Take a break if you need it anon, I just love watching my enemies burn, so I tend to cling around more than is healthy. I just want to see it all crumble and laugh, there's no way this is going to end well for them, it's congress 2.0
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:28:46 818945 No. 278710
>>278706
What happened in congress?
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:32:22 f8c8e8 No. 278712
>>278703
>I am popular now
>Oh no, I have haters now
>this must mean harassment
>The U.N. said so
>The U.N. agrees that third world women go through the same problems as first world women
>Those Werstern Women know the plight of what Saudi Arabian women go through
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:34:41 7c2f12 No. 278714
Someone posted this on /v/ to explain how LWs got the chance to speak at the UN
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:34:51 d85d3c No. 278715
>>278710
Nothing. Valkenslut called a mostly-republican congress conservative terrorists and was questioned.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:35:56 497f87 No. 278717
>>278272
>LaRouche
LaRouche?
The actual fucking Lyndon H. LaRouche?!
Ya'll niggas don't know 'bout LaRouche!
The short version boils down to: "If you agree with LaRouche on -anything-; change your opinion because it is WRONG" I'm not talking, "someone is wrong on the internet"-wrong; it's TIMECUBE wrong. He's an arch-crackpot with radioactive opinions and he isn't even trolling (unfortunately the Wikipedia article on him is crap).
[spoiler]It also led to a brilliant satirical piece of pre-internet popypasta: The Great LaRouche Toad-Frog Massacree
http://www.highwaygirl.com/archive/000007.html [/spoiler]
…and aGG is using LaRouche as a source. This is delicious .
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 18:37:13 497f87 No. 278718
>>278717
*copypasta I can't type for shit, and fuck you [spoiler] tag
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 19:09:42 697812 No. 278741
Like, what I don't get is, why specifically women? Why not work to eliminate all violence?
Oh right, because everyone can see your bullshit then.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 19:19:51 fb37c3 No. 278745
>>278688
Holy shit, it really is the 90s again.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 19:46:17 959c86 No. 278760
>>278717
got on this yu guise.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 19:46:53 959c86 No. 278761
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 20:00:25 6e6d9c No. 278777
>>278278
> The trading-card and computer game is “full of inventive imagination,” said Sat2000, a satellite TV station run by the Vatican.
>The game did not have “any harmful moral side effects” and was based on “ties of intense friendship,” the station said.
This is from 2000. Fifteen years ago.
>mfw 70 year old virgins have a better grasp of pop culture than 'hip' and 'cool' twenty and thirty somethings
http://nypost.com/2000/04/21/pokemon-earns-papal-blessing/
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 20:04:36 d85d3c No. 278780
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 20:38:08 99c291 No. 278793
>>278272
this is insanity
there is no way a sane person would think this
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 20:49:10 4d4f38 No. 278803
>>278777
They would quote shit smeared on the walls of a condemned insane asylum from the 1930's if it agreed with the narrative.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 20:51:27 b230a9 No. 278805
>>278288
>15 year old article based partly on LaRouche's ramblings.
Well, I do believe the UN has outdone themselves this time.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 21:12:46 7a553a No. 278811
"We are not Jack Thompson!" Wasn't a lie, no- They meant it.
They just meant that they were going to go further beyond.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 21:17:45 7c2f12 No. 278813
>>278805
We should memefy this and spread it everywhere
I bet even normalfags would laugh as hard as they can at this
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 21:26:05 7a553a No. 278814
>>278288
>>278805
>>278813
This isn't a bad idea.
I'm kind of amazed and kind of glad this is the hill the UN chose to die on.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 21:30:00 0ec43c No. 278815
>>278813
You're going to have more to meme soon.
There are worse sources.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 21:41:28 7c2f12 No. 278818
>>278815
Can't wait to see them. Milo just made an article on this, and already pointed out that some sources are dead links to mere blog posts (without specifying though).
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/u-n-womens-group-calls-for-web-censorship/
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 21:43:12 f8c8e8 No. 278819
>>278811
It's like these UN fucks never heard of a video game before today
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 22:03:13 7c2f12 No. 278827
>>278814
Some promising stuff:
>Nintendo-killers
>Killing Nintendo-style
>Pokémon: Killing Game for Toddlers
>Games makes you a killing zombie
>Games industry is satanist
>We're not coming after your games
>Cyber-touch
>Emotional bandwidth
>Sticks and stones may break my bones but what I'm really afraid of is cyber violence
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 22:09:14 2e2b73 No. 278829
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>278278
It's been a while since I have been able to post this. It's finally come full circle!
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 22:11:45 2abd8d No. 278830
>>278375
Funny thing is cyberbullying wouldn't be a "problem" it is now if they just had a thick skin, and not treat twitter like it's a lifestyle.
Leader 09/25/15 (Fri) 22:16:31 f8c8e8 No. 278832
>>278829
Motherfuckers need Jesus
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 00:50:09 ec3a49 No. 278890
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 00:56:41 878437 No. 278891
Reposting:
So to clarify, the UN itself has no power, they're just a "suggestion box" for what (they claim) everyone wants.
But, dumbass/corrupt politicians can make promises to "burn all the games" if they think enough people are behind it?
Since our hobby is being attacked, we should continue to do stuff about it.
Can we make this priority 1 in the /v/ threads for a while?
- Redpill "Cyberviolence" tag with the fact their using old and wrong data (Jack Thompson is cited, and they still think Pokemon is from the devil), and the people involved are actually harassers themselves (harder pill to swallow, but possible). Spread this outside of twitter and other places via OPFirefly. Likewise, get good journos to do articles on it (Nichegamer, Powergamer, TB?) so this info is spread around.
- Get "LeagueOfGamers" or whatever that thing was in on it.
- Contact good devs to offer their voice in support. Don't bother with anyone from AAA. If they have the money, they'll make sure their own games are somehow an exception. "Call of Duty is fine because it's patriotic and historical , but all other games with guns encourage violence!" And the big 3 will keep quiet, and be good goys if they can stat in business.
- Contact politicians. No really. Give them you're two cents. Every SJW is probably doing the same, saying it's a wonderful endorsement, and promising to vote/financially support the guy for going through with it. We need to counter it. Email, call, and write to them. Tell them the report is full of shit (cite your claims) and make it clear if they support the ideas proposed, you won't just refuse to vote for them, you will dedicate your time to boycotting them, and encouraging others to do so. Make them realize saying they support online censorship and taking away games is toxic to there career. There's a big list of US Senator emails I've got from the TPP/TTIP threads if you guys want them.
So redpill, and complain to those who can make a difference. Pretty much what we've been doing when we complained about bad journos.
I don't like "reacting" to this, but we need to do something. We need to make a noise and get people to look into this. Look into it and laugh at the UN. But rather than shrug it off as "they're so silly, it'll never work", we need them to raise pitchforks and say "this is so stupid, I'll make sure it's never put into practice".
Also, bare in mind the Gates Foundation will fund anyone supporting this UN guide. They want to make games "clean and safe" so CommonCore educational games are easier to invest in. Hell, wouldn't shock me if they wanted it so the only games that exist are U-rated iPhone shit, so their own games seem "fun" by comparison, and the "State is like family but better" shit can be easier to sell to children. Fucking cretins.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 01:23:59 0ec43c No. 278903
So what do you think about citation #72 and #75?
I think they're impossible to beat.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 02:28:30 22a716 No. 278931
>>278903
My God, you're right. It would be as productive as swinging at empty air.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 02:39:07 69de2a No. 278932
>>278670
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep…
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 02:47:27 69de2a No. 278935
>>278745
We're gonna see some serious shit.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 03:44:53 6529f1 No. 278959
So an organization where thin skinned narcissists are allowed to go in front of the world and lecture everyone on how to live is coming after us? The harder the world pushes against us, the longer we'll be remembered.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 03:50:39 497f87 No. 278963
>>278272
>>278760
>The only national leader to identify the nature of the crisis and to pose a solution, was economist and then-candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Lyndon H. LaRouche.
I should point out calling LaRouche a economist which I consider a voodo soft-science, to begin with, but I'll let that slide is like calling Charles Manson a renowned expert on improving race-relations. Calling him a "national leader" is pure Cloudcuckoolander fantasy probably written by one of his followers, or more likely, by LaRouche himself. From what little I do remember of his writings consists of: "Makes LESS sense than L Ron Hubbard" ; it's THAT BAD.
>>278760
Digging is needed, but unfortunately, a lot of the available info on LaRouche is in dead-tree format and not indexed online. His Wikipedia entry seems to have been scrubbed of most of the crazier stuff too.
He a nut, a liar, and a shameless self-promoter; he'll fit right in with aGG. Although, I haven't head his name in over a decade. Why now?
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 04:53:23 f88410 No. 278987
>>278963
>His Wikipedia entry seems to have been scrubbed of most of the crazier stuff too.
Have you tried waybackmachine?
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 10:10:46 6e6d9c No. 279070
>>278963
>Why now?
Because he's convenient and they're exhuming whatever old dirt they can find to throw at us and the gaming industry.
People keep comparing our opposition to Jack Thompson. Well, they're dead wrong- Thompson was wrong headed, pig headed, and fabricated evidence, but his entire spiel was to keep 'bad' video games out of the hands of minors. He went about it in the most back asswards way imaginable, but at least he had SOME good in mind.
AGG just wants to smash video games so they can feed on the carcass. They want to remove the industry so there's no competition for their goodright propaganda. I don't think I could ever accuse Thompson of something quite so vile.
Note, also, that they've exhumed "Pokemon is satanic" from the sunken city it was buried in. They're throwing literally everything they can think of at us at this point.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 10:20:12 13176a No. 279072
>>279070
>Note, also, that they've exhumed "Pokemon is satanic" from the sunken city it was buried in
This is the thing that we need to emphasize the most and spread around. Jesus Christ that's just so fucking stupid. I wonder if they're just trying to cherry pick the most ridiculous sounding excuses behind the scenes for their own shits and giggles.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 10:32:10 0ec43c No. 279076
>>278818
Dead sources ain't the half of it.
It's the ones that technically exist but actually don't you gotta look out for.
Or the ones that just plain don't.
Made two variants. The first one is the short, easy to get into one. It gets into some crystal clear major flaws so anyone can see and look at how fucking ridiculous the citations are.
https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/citation-games-by-the-united-nations-cyberviolence-e8bb1336c8d1
The second is hard mode.
In order to do the short version properly it means that whoever's writing it needs to have gone through every single citation to pull out the best.
That's exactly what it is. All 120, one by one, down the line page by page. The conclusion's that only 77 of those were really in the document to begin with. If you want to see what kind of source it is or how many of a site they used - like genderit.org - you can (it's 6). Everything is archived and the PDFs I've saved locally just in case so nothing's going to get lost. Will be posting a similar thing on KIA in a few but giving the head's up here as well (and it's already been in the breads of course). Definitely see the short version first because it's a lot easier to manage and digest.
https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/cyberviolence-citations-needed-8f7829d6f1b7
Finally done with it all. Once the KIA post is up I can relax again.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 10:32:44 a973c8 No. 279077
we need to stop the SJWs before they end the free world.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 10:42:18 83f8cd No. 279079
>those games are being marketed TO CHILDREN! THINK OF THE CHLDREN
Except they aren't. ESRB rating forbid underages from playing games with violence.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 12:53:08 476cce No. 279098
>target of #GG
This thought spread by our actual targets has always kind of pissed me off. Sure they are ridiculed when they say or do something worth ridicule, and criticized when they say or do something worth criticism. But I don't think the word target and everything it implies really applies to them.
The only #OP i can think of that could somehow be classified as an attack against these people, is some people funding Eron to get rid of the unconstitutional gag order Chelsea got rubber stamped by a corrupt/incompetent judge.
What is left beyond #OPs is some individual doing something worthless like sending a threatening email or tweet they likely chuckle at and screencap for profit.
Assigning that to #GG presupposes that only people using #GG could possibly have some kind of motivation to do that, which is bullshit of course. And assuming the threats aren't false flags, what use would #GG be to these individuals anyway? Someone behind seven proxies sends a threat to them anonymously, and then somehow needs a "crowd" like #GG to "hide" in or something?
And beyond their participation in the push for the means to implement corporate/government control of speech on the internet, their existence has been quite harmful to the actual targets of #GG. Chelsea gave us some solid proof of cronyism in gaming media early on, and the way Anita is treated by the media is ongoing proof of corruption and propaganda.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 12:56:27 f7b637 No. 279099
>>279072
I agree with this. There is a whole lot of extremely stupid shit here that even most 80 year old grandmothers know is stupid. Shit that is derided as kooky idiots from the past freaking out about nothing. People now think of "pokemon is satanic" in the same way we think of "jazz leads to promiscuity." We should be pounding on the fact that they're going back to these old retarded ideas.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 13:30:05 38da25 No. 279104
>>279077
It's not them causing this. They're a convenient excuse for things that have been in motion for years and will find themselves against the wall the moment they're longer useful.
>>279098
The most telling thing is if all those people went away tomorrow, nothing would change for us. We'd still be looking for bias, liars and nepotism on a daily basis. Calling out bullshit when we find it.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 15:42:43 6529f1 No. 279135
>>278688
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
They did NOT just cite Jack Thompson. Somebody please tell me that they did not just cite Jack Thompson.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 15:47:07 fb37c3 No. 279136
>>279135
Yes, they did. It's the beginning of the end.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 15:50:05 eadd19 No. 279137
>>279135
>>279136
You might have felt a distant rumbling earlier.
That was Jack Thompson finally having the orgasm that was denied to him for three decades.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 15:55:57 fb37c3 No. 279139
>>279137
But don't worry, they're not coming to take our vidya away :^)
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 16:00:38 2b5fc4 No. 279142
>>279135
No. They cited Lt. Col. Grossman, who Jack Thompson would often site as the source of his own allegations that vidya caused violence.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 16:04:28 99c291 No. 279144
>>278745
does this mean
second vidya golden age?
pls tell me this is the case
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 17:09:42 b230a9 No. 279162
>>279144
>second vidya golden age?
The industry must die again before that will happen.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 17:51:02 344c4d No. 279168
>>278717
>using LaRouche as a source
Technically, the source is an article which praises LaRouche. The credited author of the article is Michele Steinberg. And as far as I know, the article is only referenced in endnote 118 of the report. (It's the endnote for the part of the report shown in OP's screenshot, which claims video games are turning children into zombies or something.)
It's a truly ridiculous claim and an even more ridiculous source, though.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 18:28:00 eadd19 No. 279175
>>279168
>Michele Steinberg
Isn't this person connected to Common Core? I seem to recall the name back when there were digging up CC for the indoctrination through educational gaming angle.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 21:16:54 19d545 No. 279210
Is there a video of this insane speech (speeches?) somewhere?
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 21:30:01 50f76f No. 279214
They couldn't have made our point for us any better with this level of incompetence.
the local drive citation "study" is of course, just more trash, "emoticon" harassment..
"triggering eggplants" are a thing I guess.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 21:36:37 50f76f No. 279216
File: 1443303397452.png (1.48 MB, 1865x1381, 1865:1381, anita hate videos collage ….png )
>>279210
I've seen a link, may go live soon.
Others maybe out there.
Funny thing is that Anita has provided an example of the "hate videos" she wants censored.
ANITA SARKEESIAN, YOU OFFICIALLY SUCK AT FEMINISM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJjA4lKoHPc
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 21:51:04 878437 No. 279223
So if I wanted to write a letter to a news organization or Congressmen (one to do a story about it, the other to point out it's bullshit), would it be OK to send them the Medium article (https://archive.is/nPedL )? Or should I summarize what they wrote?
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 21:57:23 19d545 No. 279225
>>279223
Summarize and link.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 22:03:40 344c4d No. 279228
>>279175
I really don't have any idea, but both the first and last names are fairly common.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 23:26:13 03702e No. 279240
I posted this elsewhere, faggots, but you need to be aware of the big picture when it comes to GG. What we're actually up against. It isn't social progressives. They're just an ends to a means. And it is no fucking coincidence that so many of them are from the upper class and/or involved with PR companies (Hai, Silverstring!!!)
Let me explain what this is all about.
The GG shit.
The pre GG shit.
ESPECIALLY the ME3 debacle.
I'm an OLDfag. Fucking OLD. Almost 40. I've been using the internet in some form since the 80's. BBS services. AOL. Prodigy. Compuserve. You name it. I was using it for some period of time. I used Telnet, FTP, and newsgroups. Don't ask me how to do that shit anymore. I picked a different path in life and it all became much more user friendly once Mozilla stuck it's dick in the mix.
Back then, corporations did not have the chokehold on the internet that they currently do. It started with the military and academia and then a bunch of savvy dickheads fucking around got in the mix and had some fun. The internet, for anyone who wasn't an academic or military, was the Wild Wild West, not the World Wide Web.
Do you know how many hours I spent DLing a gif only to find out it was Goat.se or some chick sucking off a horse? Like an hour just for a single pic on dialup.
I wouldn't say I was a prime early user, but I was an early adopter. The whispers at the time were "It's all going to change. The corporations are coming. Free speech here will end."
See, here's the thing. Media is a tool. And corporations like to co-opt every single format for one purpose; to sell you sub par shit that you don't need.
And the biggest threat to that is your ability to have just as big a soapbox to criticize their product as they do to push it.
That's why they want to take away your ability to say mean things on the internet. It isn't about poor little Anita. It's about poor little Pfizer. Anita is a patsy. She's a tool. Get everyone to rush to the defense of the damsel, take away the right to criticize and now you've got people going to jail for saying anything but "Coke is it! Coke is the best! Disney is the greatest! Nike totally doesn't rely on third world child labor! Apple is an ethical company!"
This is about media and narrative control by the oligarchy. It always has been. SJWs are useful idiots, savvy at narrative with their communications degrees, with social access to trend setting cliques. Those SJWs are the innoculation against those in the media who might break the narrative. They got Patton Oswalt. They got Sarah Silverman. They got Louis CK. They got the video games industry under lockdown. They have everyone in Hollywood except Eli Roth. They got Graham Linnehan.
Those useful idiots think they're on a social moral crusade. They're not. They're after ego fulfillment and immunity to bad feelz and being caught up trying to grab for cash they never wanted to work for. But a bunch of cash is being spent to reinforce their delusion because in that reinforced delusion, they are valuable tools for media control and legislative action.
The final result? Draconian control of THE most valuable social tool since Guttenberg. And it's all meant to sell you shit held in a velvet glove or punish you for saying that shit is shit with an iron glove.
Gamers are the only thing holding the line right now, and I'm telling you, we can't stop. Because if they win, if they get what they want, they kill free speech. For good. And the foregone conclusion is THX 1138 or Demolition Man. Then we all have to live in the subways, or live like them. And we ain't got the cash to live in the good parts.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 23:34:26 19d545 No. 279242
>>279240
>I'm an OLDfag. Fucking OLD. Almost 40. I've been using the internet in some form since the 80's.
You've been on for too long. Go outside and breathe the fresh air. You need it.
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 23:44:40 03702e No. 279248
>>279242
> Go outside and breathe the fresh air. You need it.
I do. Every day. I've even worked in marketing and advertising and all around corporate america. I'm not speaking out of school here.
You seem interested in deflecting my allegation, though. I wonder why that is…
Leader 09/26/15 (Sat) 23:51:25 0a502b No. 279250
GG had some serious shills and some fags that tough it was only in vidya, the problem that is facing us
Pol was right in the sense that we need to be more aggressive
WE KNOW who is the final boss of this battle
Some went to say,
>we need more numbers
And the serious question
>How do we stop them?
Probably the richest people in the world that are pushing their influence to have more control
With our numbers alone some progress to push them back would be what i can think
But with less action we lose numbers, we are facing people with a lot of money and power in some risk, and with a lot minions that will do their work in order to not get their hands dirty
We need more people supporting us not only as GG but more, to protect everyone interest which means having freedom
>>279240
This Leader is right
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 00:05:55 19d545 No. 279255
>>279248
We already have satellites watching you. It's too late. It's over.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 00:07:56 0ec43c No. 279256
>>279223
Summarize, link, and you're free to use whatever you want from my stuff (pictures included of course) I don't care. Don't just use my words for your Congressman. I'm happy you think it can hold that kind of value, even if just a bit, though I hope you find more stuff too.
The small one you got archived is 100% designed for convincing people and spreading information, hopefully getting people that itch to act on something (even if it's reading the longer piece/checking on their own). There's some stuff you can add not in the small piece too (but is likely in the bigger one) too, like two that are making their rounds at the moment: sources to sites that don't exist.
#42: http://www.statistica.com/
https://archive.is/nUuTe
#103: http://www.nowldef.org/history-vawga#sthash.sWCnxx8m.dpuf
https://archive.is/VGpyB
These are all just arguments of the source and trying to figure out how it's all pieced. It's an excellent opener to debunk the piece because its foundation is quicksand, just don't solely rely on it sinking when you also have the opportunity to knock it over too (aka, get sources and information that go through the body of the report too and make a neat mix of it all).
And bear in mind…
Not everyone will agree on all of the points raised (duplicate sources has pushback from the more academics, though a lot of regular people don't like it either) but there's enough to warrant acknowledgement that it's definitely fucked and does a terrible job.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 00:56:20 878437 No. 279262
>>279250
I think this deserves it's own thread. If not here than on pol or something.
(Outside of, and with no affiliation with GG other than examples) We need to educate people on their freedom being stripped away, by who, and how idiots aren't funny when they are being used by those people to push ideas.
We then sound like the fucking conspiracy theorists, but god we've got to push something. I mean no one is talking about CommonCore's brainwashing or the TPP/TTIP/Alphabet "trade" deals that give corps more power.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 01:25:45 24e18d No. 279270
>>279240
This anon is correct. It may not happen tomorrow or in a year, but this will be the end game.
It's a slippery slope. To SJWs disagreement = harassment. It wouldn't be hard for corporations to jump on this. They already have the rights of a human being.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 01:49:35 1fe3b5 No. 279279
>>279250
>We need more people supporting us not only as GG but more, to protect everyone interest which means having freedom
The point is going out as GG is counterproductive. Being the boogeyman, despise the salt and lulz we get, means that you are the feared monster they were talking about. And so your reputation precedes you.
I'm not here to be the PR fag (if that buzzword is still used) but i think that for good or bad, GG is confined to vydia and some near sectors, and any attempts to go outside this industry might be seen as just a bunch of conspiracists rambling about their tinfoil. By this i don't mean we should "shange the hashtag", but that GG is not the universal soldier. It has it's limits and it's own history, being that the SJW version or the anon version. And that history is part of GG for good or bad.
Sadly, here we fall on the question:
What are we going to do? And that's the kind of question that creates boards like ggrevolt and makes pol leave this place.
Of all, i think that GG is useful as an identity, but it wasn't able to remain formless, chaotic and diverse, just as it was on the first months. A good OP in the future would be one that acts just as a beacon of information, but a social identity is something difficult to defend, since identities tend to change. The good part, as with feminism nobody would say they are against equality at first glance, nobody would be against the right of freedom of a human being.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 02:26:45 877b1d No. 279287
>>279240
>>279279
We form a free speech interest group / advocacy entity.
That's the one true long term solution to this. GG can't and won't last forever, and it is too diverse in focus to do the proper job in that front.
Hard to think of another solution realistically.
Preferably something funded by members, with lawyers on it's ranks and as many intellectuals as possible. Although it has to start, of course, by seeking as much popular support as possible to be viable to begin with.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 02:55:23 160b9a No. 279299
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 03:12:02 98e346 No. 279308
>>279250
The main problem is that you people have been co-opted by SJWs, and now you consider any form of fighting back to be a "SJW tactic".
Remember when you went after Sam Biddle for trying to bring back bullying and cost Gawker loads of advertisers? If someone suggested doing that again these days, everyone would go "Bu-bu-but that's a SJW tactic!"
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 03:12:39 50f76f No. 279310
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>279279
>The point is going out as GG is counterproductive. Being the boogeyman, despise the salt and lulz we get, means that you are the feared monster they were talking about. And so your reputation precedes you.
>I'm not here to be the PR fag (if that buzzword is still used) but i think that for good or bad, GG is confined to vydia and some near sectors, and any attempts to go outside this industry might be seen as just a bunch of conspiracists rambling about their tinfoil. By this i don't mean we should "shange the hashtag", but that GG is not the universal soldier. It has it's limits and it's own history, being that the SJW version or the anon version. And that history is part of GG for good or bad.
>Sadly, here we fall on the question:
>What are we going to do? And that's the kind of question that creates boards like ggrevolt and makes pol leave this place.
The history changes through use, its becoming ever more difficult for normies to accept the narrative when one can seed doubt so easily now. The evidence against sjw's only compounds with time,
It doesn't matter how one tries to avoid a label, their only attack on you is this, that you are an mra, or a misogynist, or a gamergater. Its reflexive, its all they have, and so it cannot be avoided. So its better to use it against them than to pretend it is a problem.
Anyways, this is important.
The interests of censors and those against anonymity align, which is why you saw google and the UN pulling the same nonsense.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 03:26:32 0a502b No. 279315
>>279262
Was thinking on making 1
like "the key" because it will open many gates
or something related
but dont have time to manage it, or know any who could mod
>>279279
you missed the point
we create more "gates"
GG will be for vidya, maybe some other movement will be for comics, or sports or mirgration, rights, privacy you choose
Its tricky because the "gates" have to be for things that are being affected by these folk
However there will be false flaggers but the countermeasure its the large population of the users of the internet
If the internet itself gets freedom cut like they are planning we go to other resources, but we have to prevent that
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 03:53:26 0ec43c No. 279325
I'm no good with infographs but this is all the information that could be related for #119 if anyone is interested in playing with that for citations.
There's a few things that really make this bad.
>Actual author of this piece is Huesmann
>Huesmann does not appear anywhere in the UN report
>Text is written by Huesmann and the URL is to his writing
>Sourced person Haninger
>Haninger is only [17], [16] is an entirely different person
>Citation used is all for Haninger, copied from Huesmann's citation of him.
Everything in this is Huesmann in all but name and citation. It's his writings and his interpretation used but instead they cite the wrong guy. Why? I have only one explanation:
They wanted to source Haninger but never went beyond Huesmann's piece. They saw him in the paper, took the citation, ripped the entire section out (forgetting that they're taking in another person too), and linked to the paper, ignoring that the author is wrong and that this is a second hand account being used as if it were a first.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 03:58:28 e0428a No. 279329
>>279325
Honest question, how the fuck did Anita get a MA? This is the sort of thing that gets slapped down in Freshman writing classes, she should be a better researcher than this.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 04:01:21 c25fa3 No. 279330
>>279308
The fuck are you talking about, faggot?
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 04:04:54 0ec43c No. 279333
>>279329
Frankly anyone the UN should have ought to be better than this. I don't know who exactly wrote this but it's clear enough that there's a team that did it from citations alone - the constantly different way of doing it happens only because you're dealing with different people writing. I don't know if Anita wrote anything in this or not but it's a massive failure to pretty much all of them. That example in particular (119) is pretty boring so I didn't put it in the small one but it's got some amusing stuff if you care about the sneaky and shady shit they did in this too.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 04:49:52 e98c0f No. 279339
> Online crimes are not a ‘first world’ problem; they
seamlessly follow the spread of the Internet.
(p 7)
> In 2014 the
European Union Agency for
Fundamental Rights
(FRA) published the results
of a survey on VAW suffered in their families, at
work, in public and on the Internet as well as the
effect it has on their lives and the way in which
victims respond to aggression. Surprisingly the 14
countries with the highest percentage of victims of
violence against women are in northern Europe:
Denmark (52%), Finland (47%) and Sweden
(46%), while Hungary (21%), Austria (20%) and
Poland (19%) have much lower rates.
(p 13-14)
Um .. OK.
Also, this pic is from the report.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 04:56:14 e98c0f No. 279342
WOMEN ARE MORE THAN 27 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE ABUSED ONLINE THAN MEN, WTF?
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 05:16:32 e98c0f No. 279346
Well, that's the best I could do.
(photo is from page 33 of the report)
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 05:16:49 497f87 No. 279348
>>279325
>HueHueHuesmann
>>279329
>she
This is all Josh. Par four the cores.
>>279342
>WOMEN ARE MORE THAN 27 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE BUTTHURT BY MEAN WORDS ONLINE THAN MEN
FIFY
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 05:30:00 e98c0f No. 279350
If you've no idea how this shit works, the Australian comedy "The Hollowmen" explains it best. (Yes, Minister and Veep also touch on it).
The UN has to write a report. They've got a bunch of people who are not really experts in "cyber violence" (because really - who is?).
So they go to "stakeholder" groups, who are the people most butt-hurt about it. These "stakeholders" give them a bunch of talking points, backed up shoddy references.
The UN officials (who probably did not join to do this) then compile the propaganda into an official report, along with anything they can find on Google.
You can also look at how UN Women is highly biased, and that's true. But mostly, it's because the people who are butthurt about the internet are generally not unbiased, and that's who the officials invite for a "seminar" (to help them write the report).
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 05:56:35 497f87 No. 279352
>>279339
>>279346
I gave it a shot. Sufficiently dank?
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 06:07:54 e98c0f No. 279355
>>279352
The photo isn't that great for memeing, because of the colors.
Maybe adding some opacity makes it more exploitable?
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 06:17:16 497f87 No. 279359
>>279355
Yeah, I tried dark text and it didn't work, tried white text it didn't work, then tried light text and it was slightly less crap.
Funnier people than me can meem this image it better than me, tho:
''"X terrible thing in Africa, but white wommens are reading mean words
Help them UN; you're their only hope!"''
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 06:28:35 878d63 No. 279363
>>279352
White letter with a black outline. use some cursive looking part on the second section to amplify the pretension.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 06:42:45 ff0042 No. 279365
>>279346
>>279352
>>279355
this is painful to watch, can you guys seriously not use photoshop?
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 07:27:02 b230a9 No. 279369
>>279348
>Par four the cores.
That's not how English works, son.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 07:45:36 cddab2 No. 279370
>>279369
That's how autocorrect works. Perhaps the worst sin of the smartphone craze.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 08:26:37 497f87 No. 279378
>>279365
Text kerning is a literal tool of the patriarchy, shitlord.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 16:20:41 d5a9fa No. 279480
>>279216
Classic, we should spread this around more; since we have a legit copy of what she considers a "hate video".
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 16:21:29 f951e8 No. 279481
>>279365
I know right? Text on its own layer, center horizontally, drop shadow, flatten, save as.
Leader 09/27/15 (Sun) 22:34:03 a2420c No. 279619
>>278689
why wouldn't they, the current method for pulling their shit like allowing dictators to continue attempting genocide and suppression of dissidents is say everything is for teh wymins. if they start actually doing the things they claim to endorse then the dictators of the world will stop playing their game.
Leader 09/28/15 (Mon) 22:00:46 532d95 No. 280013
>video games cause violence
The biggest creator of violence is poverty.
Poverty begets desperation.
Desperation begets animosity.
Animosity begets violence.
There's a reason people with power use their power to give a podium for ignorant ideologues to shout from: If they can convince the people to blame all the big issues on something completely irrelevant, then the people will be less likely to upset the status quo. It's the same reason SJWs are only talking about things like race and gender in the shadow of a stagnating economic and political atmosphere. A misguided activist is a harmless activist.
You guys have no idea how deep this shit really goes. Most of the people responsible aren't even aware of what they're doing. They're just ripples born from a single drop of water.
Leader 09/30/15 (Wed) 12:37:34 b4ab0c No. 280836
>>280013
>The biggest creator of violence is poverty.Poverty begets desperation.Desperation begets animosity.Animosity begets violence
Brhuefag here.
What you say is false and my country is the proof of it.
Violence is cultural, it grows in places in which law is not seem as legitimate and people idealize criminals. Like in half of BR.
Why is BR proof? Because for the period 2003-2010 we experienced a better distribution of wealth, with more economic social justice and welfare, and yet crime kept rising non-stop. Violent crime of all sorts for that matter.
How do you explain that?
Leader 09/30/15 (Wed) 13:02:57 1fe3b5 No. 280843
Leader 09/30/15 (Wed) 19:03:41 532d95 No. 280965
>>280836
Government welfare does not alleviate poverty. It is economic anesthetic to soothe the pain of an unjust system without making any attempt to cure the disease.
The rise in crime and idealization of criminals is a result of improper police management. BR cops are fucking horribly abusive, and thus the people who end up on the bottom of their boots see law and order as their natural enemy. So they cheer for the criminals and go by their examples, because if the cops hate these criminals so much, then the criminals must be good. If people associate the police as being in the wrong, they will associate criminals as being in the right. That's why the police have to be reprimanded when they step out of line. If they're allowed to get away with things that would get citizens locked up, then the people who join the police force will do so specifically to get away with these things instead of actually serving the public trust. This police become legal criminals, and the citizens respond by becoming illegal criminals. Then people notice the increase in crime and start throwing more funding at law enforcement and assume they can solve all this, when in reality they're just giving them more power to fuck things up.
The police create more criminals, and the criminals respond by creating more police. It's a vicious cycle.
Leader 09/30/15 (Wed) 22:36:46 b4ab0c No. 281041
>>280965
It's true to a point, but not enough to explain the whole thing.
They idealize criminals, but more policing is still seem as a solution to most people from all classes.
This might be an old study, but it's seem as still representative of what BR UPPs (Unidade de Polícia Pacificadora) means to favelas:
http://desigualdadediversidade.soc.puc-rio.br/media/4artigo11.pdf
When the police finally went up the hills of favelas to install their temporary offices, most people thought "finally something is being done", instead of "get away from here filthy policemen".
It's a no-brainer that bad cops and violent policing results in more and worst crime.
But there is a cultural side that is very strong in Brazil and maybe is not obvious to those that live in developed countries.
For example, once in Fortaleza, capital of the State of Ceará, northeast of BR, I heard people talking seriously about how every 1 person has the right to kill 1 person. They really believed that. On another State of that region of Brazil, I saw 2 women defending one guy's right to stab in the back someone that verbally insulted him in public, because he was smaller and weak. "That's all he can do, how can he fight someone that big" they said.
Of course this is the result of centuries of lack of positive presence of the State there, of good policing, like you mentioned.
But it went on for so long that people acquired these lines of thought as their way of life, as typical culture, and continue to act and live that way even while the country tries to better things up.
I hope you understand the point I tried to make. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that's part of the solution, but bettering the police is not the panacea you implied.
Leader 09/30/15 (Wed) 22:46:38 b4ab0c No. 281044
>>280965
Just to finish:
Why is poverty not the sole source of violent crime?
Because, if you notice the trends, people that commit crime due to poverty try as much as possible to not be violent, and to only do as little as necessary to satisfy an essencial need.
I'd say misery is a source of crime. And yet, even misery is not the cause of violent crime.
Poverty is the source of negative feelings that alone may not be enough to tip someone off the edge to commit violent crime.
Poverty + drug abuse are a commom combination that leads to it. Poverty + suffering a violent childhood; poverty + emotional abandon by parents; etc.
Of course there won't be always poverty as a cause as well.
It may be a very commom element, but you'll often find places with rampant poverty which are much less violent than less poor ones.
For an example you can compare Brazil to a number of countries in Africa, and there'll be many countries there that are poorer whilst less violent.
Actually, Latin America has a thing for violence that is head scratching. I once talked to an African immigrant here in BR and he said he'd return to Guine Bissau because, while you can see violent struggle for power between competing parties, since their politics is still down to a more primitive level of competition for power, you hardly see a person rob his fellow citizen of his property, much less harm someone for that matter, but in Brazil he was assaulted 2 times in 2 years.
How do you explain this then? That in Guine-Bissau the poor has few people to rob because there are too many poor? It makes no sense, in Brazil robbers don't steal exclusively from the rich, the n. 1 victim being the middle class (and many criminals being part of the middle class themselves).
Leader 10/01/15 (Thu) 09:06:54 7d4ab3 No. 281247
>>278278
Where is this cited in the study?
Leader 10/01/15 (Thu) 12:06:55 d6d266 No. 281279
>>281247
Go to the very end of https://archive.is/AONtG
It's at the "The Top Ten Killers" item, which's the last of the "study".
Leader 10/02/15 (Fri) 15:12:15 aeb7da No. 281912
>>278264
Is the fact that this crackpot bullshit is seriously considered as fact by the UN heavily disturbing anyone else?
Leader 10/02/15 (Fri) 15:14:33 b230a9 No. 281913
>>281912
Not really, the chair of the broadband commission is a frumpy 50-60+ year old woman whose experience with video games no doubt only includes solitaire for windows.
Leader 10/02/15 (Fri) 23:30:36 12a7cc No. 282082
Tell me somebody archived it.
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 00:02:16 f8c8e8 No. 282095
>>282082
>>282084
They removed the report?
I cannot ignore the implication that it was removed due to it being so poorly written and having laughable sources. Either that or the site is not working at the moment.
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 00:09:36 ad2383 No. 282096
>>282095
So the UN is finally covering their tracks. And most of the games media wouldn't even expose the bullshit. It was all citizens and Milo that did any coverage on how fucked up that report and panel were.
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 01:29:02 98e346 No. 282121
>>282084
Are you seriously telling me no one bothered to archive it?
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 01:31:08 98e346 No. 282124
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 04:16:47 0ec43c No. 282160
You can't archive pdfs but you can save them. There's a mirror in the medium about the citations too.
It's also the attached file in this post.
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 05:56:53 f88410 No. 282177
>>282082
>>282124
Anyone checked if sources were changed? Maybe they "corrected" the report?
Leader 10/03/15 (Sat) 14:44:51 987d38 No. 282258
>>279255
>We already have satellites watching you. It's too late. It's over.
Leader 10/05/15 (Mon) 16:06:33 c01bb4 No. 283003
I had no fucking idea that an international political power that can't muster the strength to stop genocides was concerned about first-world non fucking issues. >8 |
Leader 10/09/15 (Fri) 16:31:01 233d88 No. 284812
>>282160
Bump for we don't have an archive of this nor can't have
Do we back up this "original copy" of the report on gitgud or something? >>>/ggis/ maybe?
Leader 10/09/15 (Fri) 19:03:40 27a300 No. 284872
>>284812
I would say dump in all of the usual places and keep a local copy just in case.
Probably not going to happen in this case but you never know when someone will go on a dmca spree like the FFshrine dumps.