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Great discussion. I was hoping he would be on Joe's show.

Perfectly highlights Milo's flippant, contrarian nature. But a few good discussions were had.

this just made me like Milo more.

When arguing about the gender pay gap, I wish Milo has asked Joe

"How many women have you seen showing up to a loading dock before dawn, finding the foreman and saying 'boss, I will do whatever you want me to do for a day's pay' and then spending 16 hours shovelling snow off that dock and unloading widowmakers from the backs of 18 wheelers? How many women dig ditches for a living? How many women are there hanging off the back of a garbage truck?"

It's a great episode, but I feel like Joe's being extra stubborn-especially about religion. All Milo is trying to say is that religion plays an undeniably important part in our cultural development and Joe is all like "NOPE-DON'T WANNA HEAR IT! IT'S ALL JEWISH ZOMBIE FAIRY TALE BULLSHIT"

milo does not try to have a conversation he just wants to win an argument and rant about certain people, reminds me of autistic keyboard warriors, his complete deflection and unwillingness to engage the rather basic argument of the vulneration of self determination when you circumcise babies that can't consent was sad. Joe rogan also loves his emotional appeal and rhetoric, fucking hate this superfluous discussions they are a waste of time if you want substance it's only good if you want to see some trolling.

>>282088

I would rather have people like TL;DR and other lesserly known people that actually try to have a levelheaded discussion have this big plataforms.

>>282069

I felt milo was being disingenuous there.

Instead of defending his beliefs, or even implicitly stating what he believed, he acted like rogan was claiming religion had no purpose or cultural significance.

To tell someone that believing in a magical sky ghost is ridiculous, is not the same thing as saying "religion has no importance at all"

It was a complete and utter strawman. "Religion is important and has shaped mankind" is not an argument for the existence of god or legitimacy of catholicism.

>>282150

"You're too intelligent to belittle religion like that" isn't really a compliment. Almost feels like tone-policing. It's implying that only an unintelligent person would behave that way, and if rogan wants to be intelligent, then he shouldn't talk about jewish zombies. No one could or would successfully argue that religion doesn't have anthropological value.

It was amusing, but I lost a fair bit of respect for milo. He deflects, trails off, and often doesn't have what's needed to back up his stories when he is pushed on details.

"Circumcision is good, because yum yum dicks"

I can't agree, with milo circumcision is a terrible thing.

>Milo is pro-monarchy

Hahaha what the fuck. I had no idea he had some of these beliefs.

I don't understand how Milo, as a supposed tech journalist, can be so fucking deluded about this net neutrality stuff.

I like it how Joe challenges the spaghetti timely and makes Milo rephrase stuff, getting that spaghetti back into his pockets.

He actually sounds even more reasonable than usual this way and even more fabulous.

>>282069

>religion plays an undeniably important part in our cultural development

unfortunately

Milo said some pretty damn retarded things

>>282172

It was surreally hilarious a few months ago when the FCC's Title II decision was being made, seeing the corporate shilling regurgitated on /tech/ & /pol/ here, about net neutrality being a “censorship” scheme (as if internet censorship has ever worked) while totally dismissing the fact that tiering would kill the internet.

Pro-corporate rightism is the most literal cuckery in politics.

>>282228

It wasn't corporate shilling. It was people saying the internet ain't broke, it don't need fixing. I guarantee you that FCC legislation will be used in the future to stop online "hate speech" and other forms of "online violence". You didn't listen.

>>282159

>circumcision is a terrible thing.

It's also very useless and medically unjustifiable 99% of the time but apparently in many parts of the US circumcision is the norm in hospitals that's what I heard/read.

>>282153

The circumcision thing was really a complete defeat for Milo, to be certain. Unless you want to argue that the blow some words have should be softened, which sounds really ultralib, circumcision is almost by definition genital mutilation. If you want to argue for cosmetic looks, fine, but as Joe said, it should not be given to newly born infants. If you want to place your dick under the knife when you are an adult hey, your body is your playground, do what you want, but don't do it to a person who hasn't even developed the concept of object permanence yet.

Although for the inverse, Joe's dismissal of men not "manning up" and going camping or whatever stupid bullshit he said with regards to Milo stating many young men are just giving up on relationships was shitty too.

>>283184

>Although for the inverse, Joe's dismissal of men not "manning up" and going camping or whatever stupid bullshit he said with regards to Milo stating many young men are just giving up on relationships was shitty too.

Don't forget that Rogan is on Testosterone Replacement Therapy. Some of the young men that Milo refers to might have a testosterone deficiency and that's something Rogan isn't thinking about even though I remember him saying that without TRT he would feel like shit not just physically but mentally.

These days young men too can have a testosterone deficiency and feel like shit and be negative and have no goals no motivation no competitiveness etc. There's this documentary entitled The Disappearing Male or something like that they talk about how environmental pollution is weakening the male species not just humans but animals too such as fishes. There's really something in the water it's endocrine disrupting pollution

>>283195

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6436617/ns/nbc_nightly_news_with_brian_williams/t/male-fish-becoming-female/

This was the earliest news report that I saw on how much estrogen was being dumped into local water systems. Record Rogan talking about this in such an idiotic fashion, it sounded like he didn't know what the real problem really was. The simple fact that he's on TRT and not had this idea occurred to him just tells me he's just a short-sighted, short memory idiot.

>>282159

What's circumcision? I call it genital mutilation.

>he's just a short-sighted, short memory idiot.

he's first and foremost a stand-up comedian and a martial arts fights commentator. I only listen to his podcast when he's got an interesting guest on but I don't watch his so-called serious TV shows nor his stand up comedy either. Stand-up comedy isn't my kind of humor anyways

>>281632

What you guys have to remember about the religion thing is that Milo is from the UK.

Here the whole religious argument has simmered down.

Joe completely destroyed Milo on the religion debate. None of Milos points stood up to scrutiny.

But thats not because Milo is stupid. Its just that in the UK religion isnt really such a big thing that we argue about all the time.

>>283195

>endocrine disrupting

Look no further than glyphosate - RoundUp(tm), brought to you by your friends at Monsanto.

>>282958

cutfag here. it's true

tfw didn't get cut until i was old enough to say 'pls no'

>>283595

But where does that come from? I've never heard of a circumcision trend in Canada for example.

>>283556

[link to paper describing mechanism of endocrine disruption needed]