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ee6ba1 No.284942

A friend of mine expressed concern when I posted this image, asking for context, apparently completely unexposed to all the happenings, asking for context. I tried my best to sound unbiased and focus on the raw facts, without seeming overbearing about it all, but I'd like your opinions on it all really.

"Ohhhhh my god. Ohhhhhhhh my god. Turn back now, only madness is beyond this point. The most basic of basic explanations I can give you is that these two are 'professional victims' under the guise of political or social activists, mainly pertaining to women's rights. They make radical, accusatory claims like 'video games are sexist', 'straight white males are evil' without providing evidence for their claims, and when people try to call them out on it they cry MISOGYNY rather than engaging in an actual discussion, mainly because they close their comment sections and block anyone who disagrees with them.

Naturally they've got Kickstarters and Patreons and they rack up millions in sympathy pennies for existing, and standing up to those nasty trolls by making their echo chamber even more fortified, enough to the point that they were invited to the UN to babble about how oppressed and underprivileged they were, and that free speech is too dangerous for the internet."

ee6ba1 No.284943

"The woman on the left is named Anita Sarkeesian, and the one on the right is Zoe Quinn. I'd say google them but the people who run websites like Wikipedia are all brainwashed by their narrative and refuse to give truthful descriptions of the two or the events that surround them, painting the opposition as 'hate campaigners' rather than critics or those who seek unbiased information.

Anita Sarkeesian runs a blog/channel called Feminist Frequency and came out of the woodwork several years ago claiming that video games were inherently sexist and claimed she would explain why in a series of videos called "Tropes vs. Women". She asked a relatively modest sum of money, but the amount she asked for was… Completely overblown, to say the least, raking in around $154k rather than the $6k she asked for initially. This would have been fine if the videos had actually used this money, but they haven't, mainly being low in production value, being relatively short, having severely biased claims (and when rarely sourced the sources are just as biased), and in many cases she's been caught using footage from other video makers without their permission. She also does her best (when she actually does record her own footage) to make the games she plays look as sexist as possible, mainly by only targeting female characters, misconstruing story elements, and haphazardly dragging women's bodies around,. She claims that violence towards women is rewarded in these cases, despite even the footage itself showing that the game punishes you for pointless violence in a mission where you're supposed to be rescuing some women that work in a strip club (Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZPSrwedvsg). I'll let you form your own view if you decide to watch the video.

Zoe Quinn is in a similar situation, though she has experience as a "developer' by creating Depression Quest, a misguided attempt at showing what depression is like that fails on all fronts and does nothing but confuse people. The game has no images or sounds, being more of a choose-your-own-adventure book than anything else. This aside, she was brought into the spotlight when a former partner of her's revealed she had a colorful past of cheating and exchanging sexual favors in exchange for attention brought to Depression Quest on sites such as Kotaku and Polygon. This resulted in a huge scandal affectionately termed Five Guys, as five of the men she had relationships with worked for news gaming sites and covered Depression Quest in an overwhelmingly positive light, going against the oath of journalistic integrity. This cascaded into the GamerGate movement which aimed (and still aims) to expose where this sort of seedy business has gone on and expose it, offering a different perspective in an environment where Political Correctness is law. Naturally, they were immediately painted as sexists, bullies, trolls, terrorists, literal rapists, and an entire slew of other colorful vernacular when they exposed Zoe's involvement with these journalists, going as far as to cooperate and publish simultaneous articles titled "Gamers are Dead" in retaliation, trying to paint GamerGate supporters as a harassment campaign rather than to bring to light the raw events of what had been happening. Again, claiming her detractors were dirty misogynists earned her sympathy points from those aiming to push a narrative rather than factual evidence, and over time more has been revealed in her involvement with various feminist activist groups and enough elbow rubbing to make Richard Nixon blush.

Now these two are speaking at the United Nations as to why free speech and difference of opinion are "too dangerous" for the internet, they are proposing laws that would make expressing doubt or a difference of opinion punishable offenses, a major leap in being able to silence any opposition and further solidify their moral echo chamber, claiming they're the heroes by silencing the hateful bigots who dare to advocate for transparency in journalism.

That's the bare basics of it all. There's dozens of people on either side with their involvement in the whole shitstorm of it all, but the biggest difference you'll find is that those on the "politically correct" end of the spectrum do the equivalent of covering their ears and going LALALALALA or calling their opposition nazis/sexists/bigots/virgins, while those on the GamerGate side of things only seek to expose facts and call out hypocrisy or agenda-pushing where they're found.

If you're not completely exhausted after reading this, I can recommend some good youtube channels that explain all this stuff a lot more eloquently than I can. I honestly expected this to be shorter, but I tried my best to include all the facts that were necessary to understanding why these two women are so twisted."


10955c No.284963

>Not being able to explain GG without a wall of text

Remember when Oliver flipped his shit because he couldn't explain GG in 15 minutes?


ed08db No.284969

This thread says it all

http://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/284542.html

>woman dumps boyfriend, asshole actor butts in, bigoted white guys who don't play video games target women for being out of the kitchen under the pretense of "gaming journalism is corrupt", which is is, but they never gave a shit before even when a game reviewer got fired for ticking off a large game publisher. Meanwhile, real gamers hate this bullshit KKK movement


7acd95 No.284972

>>284943

>as five of the men she had relationships with worked for news gaming sites and covered Depression Quest in an overwhelmingly positive light

>>284942

>Naturally they've got Kickstarters and Patreons and they rack up millions in sympathy pennies

Drop the exaggerations. It makes you lose credibility.

Mention Rock Paper Shotgun.

Research a bit more, facts are the red pill. Do not try to make facts seem more impactful than they can be for the party listening. Give raw facts.

I can't write more right now, but when I got time I'll try to present my version of the red pill on this one.


ee6ba1 No.285022

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>>284969

>GG is little more than the KKK doing their thing because some old book says a sky man said stuff.

what


ee6ba1 No.285023

>>284972

I'd appreciate that, yeah. There's a lot to keep track of and that's all I could mention off the top of my head.


b23dee No.285033

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Has anyone had success reusing samizdata from the early days?


ee6ba1 No.285038

>>285033

Oh, this is great, thanks bub.


0c75a4 No.285233

it warms my heart to think that these two beautiful women are paid thousands of dollars everyday

they certainly deserve it


a6e57d No.285273

Many easy to use GG infographs are available in >>>/ggis/ OP

Really, check it. Some well designed concise red pills there, on different threads, even on the OC one, which hasn't only funny stuff


dd1f49 No.285370

>>285233

Can't tell if poe's law


000000 No.285731

I think you were a bit lazy, OP.

Don't forget site like Deepfreeze.it and Gamergatewiki.com with sources that clarifies and goes into the specifics. You could have benefited from being a bit more specifics. I'm not sure YouTube videos impress people too much.


f00086 No.285910

It's solely for Brianna Wu, but those faggots on lolcow wiki (a subsidiary of the Kiwi Farms) did a gigantic set of articles about her.

http://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Brianna_Wu

She's a great microcosm of the Antis as a whole, in my experience. An egomaniacal failure who has no real ability to survive outside the echo chamber.


098853 No.287629

I'd just tell the person:

"If you really want to know, you're in for a bit of reading. You'll need at least a couple hours to understand what these people are doing, why they are doing that, and what are the criticisms laid out at them, and why according to them you simply can't criticize them. Here are some links to get you started:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate

http://www.gamergatewiki.com/index.php/Zoe_Quinn

http://www.gamergatewiki.com/index.php/Anita_Sarkeesian

http://whatculture.com/gaming/10-things-need-know-gamergate-scandal.php

You just can't avoid the Gamergate subject when reading about these 2 persons.

If you want to read the opposing party in this issue (and I think you should, if you're interested in this), read the Wikipedia article on Gamergate, because it's become part of the controversy itself, the WP article became a perfect representation of how these 2 and said sympathisers view the issue from the opposing side, since said sympathisers makes the bulk of WP editors taking care of that page".


6986ec No.287655

>>284942

"GamerGate was an event where corruption in the videogame industry and media was found and exposed publicly by the gamer community. The finds showed a web of collusion between the videogame press and certain game developers; cronyism, bribes and political propaganda. Some of the press involved tried to derail the debate with the help of a few radical celebrities, by crafting a narrative claiming the whistleblowers are a sexist cabal. Other press outlets have redacted ethics policies to meet the demands of transparency.".

That sums it all up.

Anything else can be dismissed as baseless claims / twitter sewage.


d8dbc8 No.292322

Hey, not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I had a pic saved which has now gotten corrupted.

It was something about Zoe and Phil Fish somehow having a connection.

Anyone also got that newspaper clipping of the marriage that shows Quinns family (Venderburg or whatever her real surname is) linking it to someone major?


b7c9e2 No.292335

>>284943

What are the youtube channels, or specifically the videos?


7fbe73 No.292341

There was an inaccurate article in my state's local paper today about the panels being canceled. I'd like to send in a letter to the editor about it but I can't figure out how to describe Gamergate and the situation of the panels being cancelled to normal newspaper readers who don't play video games in 150 words or less.


f9b357 No.292358

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>>292341

This might help.


66890d No.296565

This takes top priority given the nature of the movie deal


ac69fd No.296581

>>284972

Sarkeesian has probably topped a million and Burgers cuck boyfriend probably spent about as much of his father's money trying to keep her from sticking strange dicks into her.


078917 No.308939

>>284969

>muh fat man

Both companies were cunts but everybody was like

>yeah they're all cunts

Not much to be done there except boycott those involved.

Now gamejournopros is a whole different kettle of fish. This wasn't one or two parties being dicks this was the entirety of the mainstream gaming press colluding to promote non games and attack gamers.


098f55 No.308950

>>284943

>the one on the right is Zoe Quinn

Chelsea van Valkenburg

Although in Volokh's writeup about the bogus gag order, he mentioned he'd heard she might have finally changed her name legally.




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