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fff600 No.286096

At this point I truly believe that thanks to Gamergate, the backlash against SJWs is beginning, and part of that is the fact that more people will begin to use "SJW" in public. The obvious counter attack agiainst that will be "SJW is just a buzzword used to shut down people seeking justice for women and POC" and all that mess. I think there is a pretty clear line dividing SJWs from say, someone who believes in social justice.

A social justice warrior

1.Feels justified in publicly shaming those who disagree with them

2.Likes to Wantonly redefine words while outright refusing to debate said re-definition (i.e. "not my job to educate u shitlord")

3.Believes that both oppression and guilt for oppression should be collectivized to the point where the actions of individuals should be viewed through the lens of said collective guilt or lack thereof (i.e. "a black person cannot be racist because of the system" "everything a white person does is racist because of the system of oppression they benefit from")

4.Believes that someone who agrees with 90% of what they believe should be treated like a mortal enemy.

d1f67b No.286121

It's in the dictionary. We've already defined it.


d04e12 No.286125

>>286121

The dictionary defines it poorly.

Social Justice Warrior - One who uses social issues as a means for personal gain. This personal gain can take any form, though monetary gain and social status are most common. If a SJW truly even cares about the cause s/he claims to champion, then s/he still cares much more that people know s/he stands for that cause than about the cause itself.


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6395cf No.286181

>>286125

This assumes they never drink their own kool aid


54588d No.286194

The true sjws (them being the ones in the clique) would find the concept of sjw being a pejorative ludicrous.


decc05 No.286197

I suggest starting by trying to list behaviors and beliefs that almost everyone can agree are SJW before trying to define it.


8c7905 No.286205


6eccb6 No.286224

sjw is some catchall bullshit that gaymurs make u[p for any1 they don't like


d04e12 No.286229

>>286181

It doesn't. It just doesn't require that they drink their own kool-aid.

The key factor is that they do it for themselves. They are ultimately very selfish people. To them, it is more important that people know they do and think the "right" things than actually doing the right things.


182fe4 No.286245

>>286125

>>286181

Social justice warriors are a special breed that can drink their own Kool Aid and still manage to be hypocritical.

To understand them, you have to understand two events. These are the Cultural Revolution and the Stanford Prison Experiments.

The Cultural Revolution was a period in China in which young people were encouraged to destroy China's history while simultaneously reasserting Chairman Mao's cult of personality over a nation. To accomplish this, Mao shut down the schools and gave the youth authority that they had only witnessed the older generations yield. It wasn't much authority, but it was enough authority to form mobs and attack Mao's enemies. Today, social justice warriors are encouraged to attack the history and culture of western nations because a few people were exploited in the process of writing that history. Every tradition we have is dismissed as being part of a patriarchal conspiracy. In addition, social justice warriors attack dissent by attacking those they don't agree with while making every effort to destroy their livelihoods.

The second event to understand in the Stanford Prison Experiment. Professor Phillip Zimbardo took ten volunteers and made them assume the role of guards and inmates of a fictional prison. Keep in mind that these ten people were all voluntarily participating in this experiment and were free to leave at any time. But only after a week, Professor Zimbardo had to end the experiment because the guards were abusing the inmates. Social justice warriors are like the guards in the experiment. All they were told is that they were slightly better than everyone else and they just ran wild. That's why you see online lynchings organized by these social justice warriors. And the worst part is, they really think they're doing something good. It doesn't matter who the dehumanize, who they destroy, and who they brand with the scarlet letter. All that matters is that someone did something and they were punished for it.

The thing you remember about social justice warriors is that power corrupts. That's how they drink their Kool Aid and still act the way they do. They fall into a cult of personality in which those they worship can do no wrong even if there's a mountain of evidence that their messiahs are frauds. As long as they have the power to persecute people and justify it as a worthy cause, that's all they will care about.


0880af No.286248

>>286096

The definition I use is any person who tries to censor,attack and ruin the lives of everyone that disagrees with them and feels justified in doing so because they believe they are "on the right side of history".

People such as those that believe in the progressive stack or that whites and men cannot experience racism or sexism are not necessarily SJW's if they are capable of not being vindictive they are simply progressive morons and while all SJW's are progressive morons not all progressive morons are SJW's.


2dad5f No.286251

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It is actually better to not have a universal meaning to sjw as it is something to be done on a case by case basis.

So many different opinions but sjws always go back to common attribute: A lot of complaining about shit that does not matter in society.

From Mexican Food to Video Games, sjws find there ways to be retarded on topics they discussed.


4f720d No.286268

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Uprising

how come this got its own article but SJW got a small paragraph in another article?


1580f2 No.286277

>>286268

I don't know if you are framing that as a rhetorical question, but it should be obvious.

Wikipedia has always been a compromised shithole.


f08e9d No.286468

>>286245

You forgot the Presidency of George W Bush.

Bush and Cheney and their right wing machine basically MADE social shaming socially acceptable in the US. More so, they created the bedrock for the modern SJW hate machine, as kids who grew up under Bush and the (for lack of a better term) cowardly pussies that were the post-Clinton Democrat Party, they opted to emulate the Bush machine because the Bush Machine did whatever they wanted, damn the consequences while the Dems were basically constantly being trampled by the powerful "bad asses" in the GOP.


27df95 No.286477

I liked the "Status Warrior" definition. The people who we call SJWs aren't actually fighting for social justice, which I agree with btw, but they're all about forming online lynch mobs, i.e. /ggrevolt/.

There's Status Warriors on both sides of the political spectrum, and we should be against those on the far right and far left.


0c1f81 No.286481

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJW

> Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typically repeat points from whoever is the most popular blogger or commenter of the moment, hoping that they will "get SJ points" and become popular in return. They are very sure to adopt stances that are "correct" in their social circle.

> The SJW's favorite activity of all is to dogpile. Their favorite websites to frequent are Livejournal and Tumblr. They do not have relevant favorite real-world places, because SJWs are primarily civil rights activists only online.

/thread


d931ff No.286488

>>286096

hypocrits who use social justice as a plataform

was that dificult?


27df95 No.286490

>>286481

But what do we call the dogpilers on the right, like ggrevolt?


7abbf9 No.286597

It needs to be something nice and succinct. The important part to cover in the definition is highlighting the fact that there's a very real difference between mere rights advocacy and the SJW, which usually manages to cover the three tenants of Social Justice:

>Claim support for social justice

>Be generally unreasonable and extreme in beliefs despite those beliefs going against equality in the very sense of the word

>absolutely refuse compromise and shut out disagreements

If you only mention 'social justice', it goes right over normies' heads. If you explain the part about the average SJW being an unbearable asshole, though, it usually sticks a lot better. There's a reason feminazi has become so popular in recent years, and TV's occasional portrayals of SJWs stereotypes dipping into the extremist side of advocacy means most adults generally already have a mental image of 20-something someone that shouts obscenities and over-reacts to everything as racist/phobic/whatever, while generally doing nothing to actually contribute to the discussion.


788dd6 No.286704

Ever since that SJW chick kneejerked about transsexual marriages right after the Supreme Court declared all same sex marriages legal, I began to think of social justice as less of a cult and more of an addiction. It didn't matter that transsexuals were included by default in the ruling, she was desperate for a quick fix to bring her up to normal. This is why just pointing out the doublethink doesn't work very well.

They need rehab.


d1f67b No.286828

>>286490

people who want to destroy gamergate.


c79b19 No.286843

>>286096

SJW = disgusting hypocrite who fields left wing rhetoric. There's your soundbite, build from there.


c79b19 No.286844

>>286488

Also works.


1dae65 No.286864

The simplest definition of an SJW is someone who actively supports cultural marxism.


409756 No.286865

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Well consider the following bullshit logic like this:

You think labelling other people is now considered shutting down discussion or just strawman. The other problem of that one.


27df95 No.286873

>>286828

Well then, we shouldn't call them just SJWs then. The outrage culture exists on both the left and the right, but neither actually stand for Social Justice, so calling them both SJWs is disingenuous.


78f5c9 No.286874


c2e0d9 No.286889

Anyone with rainbow colored hair or those ever expanding ear rings


ed2eac No.286896

I've always just gone with "a hateful asshole who claims to advocate for ~progressiveness~"

That's pretty much the one thing connecting them all.


509833 No.286914

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5f5b6c No.286950

>>286133

>Social Justice Warrior (abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term used to denote a person who frequently expresses extreme and often contradictory and/or cognitively dissonant beliefs about social justice. This typically results in abject bigotry on behalf of the expressing party, ironically opposing their ostensible positions as proponents of tolerance.

If we already have a definition, why is this thread still going?

/thread


9ea178 No.286958

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=social+justice&defid=6874686

>A Utopian fantasy based on the Leninist concept of "equality of outcome." It says that since you have more, it must be taken away from you to give to those who have less, so that you are both equal. So there is much in common with the petty thief, who steals your wallet at gun point in order to equalize both of your wealth. Though this never seems to apply to rulers, who always seem to be exempt from social justice policies.

>In order for social justice to exist, there has to be a ruling class to mete out that social justice. If there is an elite ruling class, then there is no social justice. So the concept of social justice always collapses in upon itself.

>Social Justice is generally supported by hipsters of all ages who can't afford weekly groceries or gas for their cars, but who are simultaneously bedazzled with hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars of tattoos and piercings.

>It is often used by power hungry despots to fool voters into surrendering their rights and liberties in exchange for promises of free stuff, while lining the pockets of the ruling class with the stolen wealth of the people.

>They promised social justice in Venezuela. >They can't even supply toilet paper. Meanwhile, Maduro's right hand man Aristóbulo Istúriz has over $9.6 million in a Swiss bank account. At least Chavez's daughters still get to live it up in the Presidential Party Palace, La Casona.

>In the Ukraine where the average salary is less than £300 a month, President Viktor Yanukovych said that 2013 would be a year of social justice. In 2014, the Ukrainian people found that his personal estate which was half the size of Monaco, contained a 5 floor mansion, a golf course, a private zoo, a park, a greenhouse, a garage filled with luxury sports cars, a helicopter pad, a pirate ship which served as a personal restaurant, a hovercraft, etc.

>In America, they promised free healthcare for everyone. Now it costs more, and I have less coverage. I hear the First Ladies' newest dress cost $12,000. That's social justice for ya.


24ad3a No.286974

>>286245

Stanford Prison was a scam, dude. It's a great example of how broken peer review ten ds to be, but nothing else.


536d94 No.286993

An SJW:

-believes in feels before reals

-believes the government should legislate and enforce morality

-believes in public shaming

-believe there's no bad tactics, just bad targets

-believe racial and gender issues are the most important issues facing the world, but believes class issues are irrelevant

-cares about an individual's race, gender, and religion, but not the content of their character

-are raging hypocrites

Basically, the left-wing fascists.

More when I think of them.


27df95 No.287172

>>286993

What should we call people on the right who act this way?


adb3ea No.287180

>>287172

The right wingers I've personally encountered who engaged in that kind of behavior were, to a man, religious fundies.

So there you go.

And it fits pretty well, if you think about it, since SJW's are basically lefty cultists.The state and their ideology can do no wrong.


9c9b53 No.287191

>>286096

>1.Feels justified in publicly shaming those who disagree with them

Shaming? Social justice warriors will murder people over microaggressions while a corrupt media defends them. See Vester Lee Flanagan.

We need to stand up to these nazis.


27df95 No.287365

>>287180

But ggrevolt engages in the "call out" culture, and they're right wing. Not all of this type comes from ggrevolt, so you can't call all of them revoltards.


f22186 No.287376

>>286096

"Social justice warrior" is by dictionary, someone who makes the fight for social justice their entire identity.

Often characterized by the freshman mindset of needing to help change the world, make your mark, be part of something bigger, basicly doing things to make themselves feel good about themselves (which stems from the coddling they got all through school and don't get now. they're looking for a new source)

now this could describe your average leftist, but the social justice warrior takes it to a whole different level. Where as a leftist will admit when they're proven wrong beyond a reasonable doubt, the social justice warrior will take any attacks on their viewpoint as a personal attack against themselves, and make a point to ensure as many people know about it as possible. They do not care about right or wrong, but general concensus. For example, in a SJW group, even if someone is wrong the rest of the group will defend their wrongness, to the point that their perspective of reality becomes warped and twisted.

These people could make Ghandi and Buddha want to tag team some smack down on their candy asses.


408682 No.287392

>>286096

informal, , derogatory

A person who expresses or promotes socially progressive views:

these social justice warriors want to apply their politically correct standards and rules to others' speech

MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES

Some of them admit they're afraid that social justice warriors will ruin video games.

Many of the site's users have blamed a conspiracy of social justice warriors: PC campaigners who, they claim, are too easily offended.

We get it, you hate social justice warriors, whatever you perceive those to be.


0d9794 No.287419

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>>287392

>Those other example sentences

Nice, Oxford. Way to show your objectivity and lack of personal bias.


536d94 No.287459

>>287172

Fascists?

Fundies?


408682 No.295759

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960968 No.295764

>>295759

fucking bullshit


cfcdd5 No.295766

>>286096

SJWs are feminist equivalents of the KKK


d77a8b No.295767

SJW:

- ID politics cultural marxists

What's ID politics? It's the use of race, ethnicity, religion or culture (going as far as using taste in music to define yourself as member of certain societal group) to define yourself as different from other groups of people, especially for the use of requesting special legal or social treatment over those other groups.

What's cultural marxism? It's the use of socialist ideals within democratic-capitalist societies under the cultural umbrella of social relations. For example, it's the use of social norms to forbid certain kinds of speech in order to advance a socialist ideal, when you can't use the political structure to do so. Instead of making something illegal, you make it taboo and shut down others from fear of unemployment, loss of reputation, etc. It's basically reverse McArthyism.


c5298d No.295796

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How to identify a SJW:

- Doesn't believe there's such a thing like reverse-discrimination

- Believes the right to offend should be excluded fom freedom of speech (i.e., Literally Who's calling the police when receiving "i'll kill you" messages from burner accounts).

- Everything must have an agenda, events that go against the narrative are ignored.

Also, remember that there are three waves of feminism. Based Mom is second wave and is cool as fuck. Third wave are the loonies that give feminism a bad name.


d77a8b No.295801

>>295796

>- Doesn't believe there's such a thing like reverse-discrimination

You're inconsciously committing the same by using the word "reverse".

Discrimination isn't arbitrarily selective as a concept, being arbitrarily selective is what constitutes what it stands for.

There's no "reverse" anything, discriminating people for arbitrary bs reasons is the same for everyone, thus racism against whites is simply racism, not "reverse racism". Otherwise racism and other sorts of discrimination would themselves be racist concepts.


adadeb No.295802

>>286096

>how to spot a social justice warrior

>call them "faggot" or "nigger"

>Do they lose their shit?

>They're a social justice warrior


44de6c No.295805

>>295759

That is a really poor definition. Its too literal.

Its like saying a panhandler is someone who handles pans.


98f8c7 No.295806

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Sure, and when we're done, we'll post it to Wikipedia and… oh wait.

I can see the thing spiral into an endless semantic argument, like the whole "censorship is only when a government does it", "stop calling it trolling" or "disagreement can take the form of harassment, therefore disagreement is harassment and harassment can be violent, and it's because it also happens on the internet that we need a word like cyber-violence".

>>286251

This


9a18c3 No.295811

>>295796

>reverse-discrimination

There is no such thing, discrimination is discrimination, no matter from who it come and to whom is it adressed.

> Literally Who's calling the police when receiving "i'll kill you" messages from burner accounts

That is actually the correct thing to do when you recive a death threat, LWs just post them on mass media to play the victim card


481027 No.295812

>>295801

>>295811

Calm your goddam fedoras, you know what he meant.


c5298d No.295814

>>295801

I know, but newspeak schyzos are trying to tell us that discrimination implies structures of power so I try to write in their language so they can understand my ideas.

>>295811

> That is actually the correct thing to do when you recive a death threat

I'm talking about Bahar Mustafa kind of arrest.

Her "kill all white cis men" threats were meaningless. Real killers like Vester Lee Flanagan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Alison_Parker_and_Adam_Ward) don't give clues like these before murdering.


44de6c No.295825

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If you divide the number of threats sent to a group by the number of threats carried out that tells you the credibility of the threat.

In the case of SJWs there is no credibilty.




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