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GamerGate doesn't do boycotts

>Trying to oppose the hype for Star Wars…

What's next?

Try to get Potter heads to stop fapping to Emma Watson?

Don't get me wrong, i hate Star Wars. the original trilogy is ok, not because of the pulp fiction story with is just Flash Gordon on steroids but because of it's scale, and the fact that it inspired thousands of better pulp Sci-Fy stories that have come after it.

But other than a couple of games the SW IP hasn't been doing so great after the original trilogy, i honestly don't get how it can generate the hype it does.

And the games are always as generic as fuck, the fact that EA is behid it is just another red flag raised on the IP

But seriously, if we where able to make succesfull boycots EA and Activision wouldn't be the powerhouse monopolies that they are.

Also, the reason we do not do boycots is simple.

THEY WILL FAIL

and when they do, it will send 2 clear messages to devs and publishers:

1) #GG is activelly boycoting the livelyhood of devs, thus, it is not benefical to devs to support a group that does such things

2) When the boycots fail (and they will, especially against the Star Wars hype) they send a message to publisher that #GG is weak, small, and should not be considered seriously.

You wanna shit on EA? then jump on the hate waggon, spread infographics of all the studios they fucked, the anticonsumer practises they implemented, the many IPs they fucked. shine a spotlight over their 2 golden turds. But do NOT directly try to boycot a game.

Just make sure the average consummer is aware of who he is buying from, by attacking the publisher over all the antigamer shit they have done, the devs and their games stay out of it, chances are they are as much a victim of EA as every consumer

>>290919

The game is a complete failing to the legacy of Star Wars Battlefront. There's many reasons to boycott EA and specifically Star War Battlefront.

$50 season pass: https://archive.is/VYpiT

Nice, related article:

Star Wars: Battlefront’s $50 Season Pass Already Feels Like a Ripoff

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2015/10/15/star-wars-battlefronts-50-season-pass-already-feels-like-a-ripoff/171821/

Nice /r/pcmasterrace thread calling for a boycott:

Do not reward EA for their underhanded business practices. $50 DLC + $60 for Star Wars: Battlefront.

https://www.red*dit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3plrjn/psa_do_not_reward_ea_for_their_underhanded/

EA semi-bribes reviewers with $200 cheque mailed with Dante's Inferno: https://archive.is/0rwtu

>>290918

>1) #GG is activelly boycoting the livelyhood of devs, thus, it is not benefical to devs to support a group that does such things

It's boycotting a publisher that's put many developers back out into the unemployment pool. The developers have already been paid.

>2) When the boycots fail (and they will, especially against the Star Wars hype) they send a message to publisher that #GG is weak, small, and should not be considered seriously.

When #GG does nothing, it sends a message to publishers that #GG will do nothing about their shoddy business practices. Boycotts are about spreading the information about the product, and leaving it up to the potential consumer to decide for themselves. Sure there's going to be people who pre-order and purchase day 1 DLC, but those who want to make an informed decision should be made aware.

>But do NOT directly try to boycot a game.

Why? I personally believe Obsidian and PoE should've been boycotted when they pulled that shit.

Pastbin in the OP, http://pastebin.com/DAJvmpNB

#boycottbattlefront-Here are some reasons why you shouldn't support EA and Disney's new Battlefront game this holiday season and how they'll convince you to pay for game with a fraction of the features and content Battlefront II, the ten year predecessor to EA Battlefront, had for almost double the price of a standard AAA new release. But most importantly, this will show you why EA should not be supported and how entrenched they are into gaming journalism and the likeliness that they will make sure to maximize review scores and praise in order to sell their projected 9 million copies among PS4, Xbox One and PC.

Information regarding game content and pricing:

-An example of the content difference between EA Battlefront and Battlefront II: https://imgur.com/YgOmHX3

-EA Battlefront's $50 season pass, which gives no indication of how much content you will receive for $50. The Ultimate Version of the game with all the DLC will cost $120 plus tax: https://archive.is/VYpiT, http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2015/10/15/star-wars-battlefronts-50-season-pass-already-feels-like-a-ripoff/171821/

-There is also glaring issues with the games balance, playable modes, content and overall gameplay (ground and in-vehicle) feeling unsatisfactory despite visuals and sound being very good on the PC version: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/10/12/5-big-problems-with-the-star-wars-battlefront-beta/

Information regarding bribing reviewers and skewing reviews of their titles:

-EA sends out a questionnaire to those looking to acquire review copies of Battlefront 3 with its likely purpose to "filter the reviews so they’d be handled by people that would be per-determined to give the game a positive score and/or slag off Modern Warfare 3 in the process." https://archive.is/ldNPV

-EA semi-bribes reviewers with $200 cheque mailed with the game "Dante's Inferno": https://archive.is/0rwtu

-EA giving Dragon Age 2 reviewers free swag https://archive.is/0Q34T, http://download.gamestar.de/public/46400/46444/DragonAge_Ritter_Pressegeschenk_Gamestar.mp4

-Also in regards to Dragon Age 2 it was discovered by a Steam community member that an EA employee was boosting the games user rating on Metacritic and there was a possibility that EA staff have done this to other games as well http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1943714.html

-EAs secret YouTube program which pays online reviewers like Machinma $10 per thousand views of videos showing their games. https://archive.is/LJAMU

-EA buying reviewers and gaming media drinks and food plus limo rides for Crysis 3 review launch. "As recent as the release of Crysis 3, there was a controversy involving Electronic Arts communication manager Devin Bennett taking journalists out on a wild night on the town on EA’s dime at the review launch event of Crysis 3 in Frankfurt, Germany." https://archive.is/8rr0n

-Around the time of the above event EA talked about how Crysis 2 will easily get a 90 metacritic score, it ended up around there with an 86 for the PC version https://archive.is/gIH3m

-After failing to hit 90+ and not producing much Crytek would die out a few years later after Crysis 3 and became one of the many publishers linked by EA helping with killing them: https://archive.is/7LXO6

-Later it was shown that EA won metacritics top video game publisher award, http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/02/06/ea-wins-top-publisher-honors-at-metacritic/, and was also voted the worst company in America http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/04/09/ea-voted-worst-company-in-america-again/.

-There was also evidence that the Battlefront subreddit was taking bribes from EA and even demoted a mod from the subreddit for calling other moderators out on the controversy https://archive.is/jls1k

>>290921

I still think we should focus our effort on redpilling normies into being weary of doing busines with EA, if you do find some smelly shit smearing Battlefront, then use that as an example of why EA should not be dealt with.

That said, a boycot will still fail. even if the game is shit, if we could stop the sheep from buying shit with awarenes campaigns or whatever, then AAA Vidya probably wouldn't be the formulaic, linear, anticonsummer, monocromatic, repetitive, generic, DRM/DLC/QTE/micro transaction ridden cesspool of greed that it is today

>>290918

> #GG is activelly boycoting the livelyhood of devs

No its to redpill people on EA bribing reviewers. showing the publishers misdeeds against developers and the fact that the game is being sold as a SUPER DUPER AWESOME POSSUM STAR WARS GAME THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING 30 YEARS FOR while in reality it has less content and quality then a PS2 game from 2005.

Also its not under #GamerGate, its under #boycottbattlefront (2 tags together don't show up on twitter search) so you can calm your tits about "gamergate in crisis".

Also I know for sure twitter has been censoring the tag since a bunch of tweets from my side account is invisible to see publically my other account along with 20 or so tweets that people made on Monday, that alone makes EA deserve this shit. Most importantly, EA doesn't and never will support GG so it doesn't matter what happens to them, their views of us won't change. Even if we take 1 sale away from EA I'm happy because we hit the root of evil in gaming journalism where it hurts, their wallets.

However its not to say "don't buy BF" its why its not the best purchase you can make and why you shouldn't support a publisher who is linked to unethical actions by gaming press and the murder of many developers over the course of the last 15 years.

>>290925

>That said, a boycot will still fail.

The purpose of a boycott is not total victory, it's to make the masses aware. If you set out to completely shut down sales, you will fail.

I do believe there is a point where incompetent game devs and/or publishers need to loose money before they stop making shitty games.

While I don`t think full on boycotts is a good idea when the product merely do not appeal to you, or you think it's pandering to the wrong crowd. I have no problem saying out loud to anyone listening why this game is shit and why they shoudl spread the word it`s a shit game not worth buying.

where`s the line between boycotts and consumer enlightment?

>>290930

Well this isn't about really about pandering as it is about what you said, that it's a shit game content and quality wise and that the publisher encourages modern game journo botched reviews and literally kill their partnered developers.

It's primary objective is exactly what you said, consumer enlightenment.

>>290932

>consumer enlightenment.

That's it!

That's the magic word

The word boycot has many negative connotations that we would be wise to aboid, it sounds like an attack on Publishers & devs

But "Consummer Enligthment", on the other hand, sounds like like a pro consummer prevention campaign

SJWs are constantly trying to manipulate languague to insidiously worm their ideology up into people's minds.

Stuf like adressing legitimate criticism as cyber violence for example

2 can play the same game, and in this case, we should, the word boycot can and will be used against us in the future, the word "consummer enligthment" however, is a different story, they'll probably try to use that against us too, but it'll require more mental gimnastic to twist our consumer defence into an attack on a publisher

>>290934

> But "Consummer Enligthment", on the other hand, sounds like like a pro consummer prevention campaign

Mods, could you please edit the title to say "Operation Consumer Enlightenment: #BoycottBattlefront"?

>>290897

Good luck trying to convince the legions upon legions of crazed starwars fans not to buy this game.

>>290921

Which is why I won't be buying it. The markets already saturated anyway with Halo 5 and BO3 coming out in the next few weeks. Best way to redpill anyone stupid enough to spend $60 on it is to just let them do it.

If anything wait till the #boycottstarwars butthurt calms down and they release some p2w DLC weapon like you know they're going to. Then you have a legitimate reason to boycott + aGGros can't point and say l-look GG only wants to boycott cause black Jedi!!!

Product boycott thread?

There's already a board for this:

>>>/pogostick/

Also, stop falling for the racist bait of the boycott #. It's been shown that 94% of tweets there are in outrage about it, not in favor of it.

>>290897

Individuals boycott with their wallets. GG doesn't coerce or force people to boycott. It is the individual that must make the decision.

Impolite sage for not knowing how this place works by now.

>>290953

What do you call the boycott of Kotaku and Polygon?

It's not forcing anyone to do anything, it's informing the masses.

>>290954

GG never actually called for the boycott of shitty clickbait sites.. Individuals chose not to give them free ad bucks and email campaigns were created to inform advertisers of those sites shady business practices and ethical violations.

I appreciate you're new but come on son.

>>290968

Bribing the mods of /r/StarWarsBattlefront/ isn't unethical?

>>290968

>It's not forcing anyone to do anything, it's informing the masses.

and that's exactly what a call for boycott is doing.

If I'm wrong, then please, tell me the difference? It's not calling for anyone to lock arms in front of GameStop to prevent people from buying the game, it's about informing the masses.

>>290964

>have a literal boycott list of game journo sites on the meta OP

>not telling people to boycott sites

>>290953

This isn't a forced boycott, this is to inform people why it isn't the best idea to give EA your money and linking their practices and bribes to journo malpractices and conflicts of interest to redpill normalfags along with the terrible things they do to actual game developers.

>>290948

The movie boycott wasn't even about racism moron, this isn't linked to any of the movie's problems anyways this is completely different.

>>290968

>It's not forcing anyone to do anything, it's informing the masses.

Boycotts also do the same thing, its informing people about legit issues and recommending people not to give the content owners, who knowingly commit malpractices, money.

>wait until EA does something unethical

They've been doing unethical shit in gaming and funding malpractices in gaming journalism for over 10 years.

>>290993

>Why would you want to put the words "gamergate" "boycott" and "Star Wars" together now of all times?

Point to where I did that, please.

>It is if there's evidence. Lack of disclosure has always been ethics hammer #1.

http://www.red_dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3c8wze/ethics_ea_gave_the_mods_of_rstarwarsbattlefront/

https://archive.is/Ke8LO

>>290918

This

Now if sites were giving good reviews for Battlefront because they got bribed by EA or something then we'll take action, but for now Battlefront is just some mediocre looking game.

>>290993

Payday is already pretty fucked as is and people are already dropping it, an awareness campaign for Battlefront is more important in my mind especially since we can hit at the root of evil known as EA and their cronies in gaming journalism.

>>291008

Its very likely that EA bribed journos for all of their big releases, so its 100% certain that they'll do so for Battlefront to get more involved normalfag gamers to buy it despite content and quality issues and their track record with developers and journos putting money into shilling and bribing journos rather then putting money into the actual game.

>>291027

To be fair, "gamergate" was never mentioned.

I don't know how true this is or how Twitter exactly works, but someone on /v/ stated that if you want to get something trending, you only use one hashtag, so don't throw #GamerGate in there if you're tweeting this. Can anyone verify?

>why now?

Game is approaching release in less than a month.

>I agree that an awareness campaign is good. I disagree calling for a boycott is good

Isn't it one and the same by today's definition?

>>291046

>so don't throw #GamerGate in there if you're tweeting this

It was never included in any tweets initially so it'll stay that way since twitter only registers one hashtag tweets for searches.

>>291046

>so don't throw #GamerGate in there if you're tweeting this

It was never included in any tweets initially so it'll stay that way since twitter only registers one hashtag tweets for searches.

I played star wars battlefront on the ps2 back in the day,shit was fun as fuck i especially enjoyed the space battles and board an enemy capital ship function to wreck it from the inside,you could even steal enemy fighters from the hanger and engage enemy fighters that look just like your stolen spacecraft.

>>291057

From the game play I've seen, the new game isn't anything like that.

>>291064

The hoth level is a fucking disgrace to the original and the previous star wars, i remember Hoth was one of my fav levels wide open spaced, turrents,those giant ass camel things with the big guns and those land spacecraft things.

Absolutely atrocious,and whose bright idea was it to add a first person view ala CAWL OF DOOTY style viewpoint? played it alot bck in the day with my bros

>>290897

I'm not going to get involved with this twitter faggotry because literally everyone on earth already knows that EA makes bad games and ruins good games.

You can't boycott something you never intended to buy in the first place.

>>291080

You can spread the word though. The two infographics in the OP should be enough for even one tweet about it.

>>291092

*Battlefront

Shit

>>291092

Well, I highly doubt this would put any major dent in EA sales, but at least people can put the word out about their shoddy business practices and hopefully save some pleb from dishing out $120 thinking he's going to be playing Battlefront 3, while he's really getting CoD w/ a touch of Battlefield and a Star Wars theme.

>>291092

>sensing HQ/Revolt solidarity

I don't see how, no one has called anyone an ethics cuck or cried about acidman yet. This thread was on /v/ a couple days ago, so its likely from them.

>>291096

I played the original on XBL back in the day and liked it a lot. 5 minutes into the Razorfist video though was pretty obvious the new one was just a cash grab. Funny how they seem to know better than trying to pull this shit with Madden.

>>291098

The lack of drama is nice for a change, regardless.

>>290950

Just to be clear, the picture on the right is not Abrams talking about Star Wars. The original is a bit longer and he was talking about Emmy and his own TV series "Undercovers" - https://archive.is/XS33W :

> …he talked about the time where his efforts to push diversity backfired on him on the television show Undercovers — and how it was all his fault… Here is the story as Abrams describes it:

> We came up with a show that was this honestly standard thing — it wasn’t a great script. Well they said they wanted to make it and we cast the show and did it. The thing that killed me the most of all, frankly, was we wrote it without even thinking who would be in it.

> We wrote these characters but when we went to cast it, one of the things I had felt, *having been to the Emmys a couple times — you look around that room and you see the whitest fucking room in the history of time. Its just unbelievably white. And I just thought, we’re casting this show and we have an opportunity to do anything we want, why not cast the show with actors of color? Like not for sure, and if we can’t find the actors who are great, we shouldn’t, but why don’t we make that effort because it wasn’t written that way and isnt that the cooler version of doing this as opposed to saying ‘this is an urban show’.* It fucking kills me when they call something ‘an urban movie’ like its a separate thing, like ‘its that thing over there.’

Don't know if that classifies as an agenda pushing ("not for sure, and if we can’t find the actors who are great, we shouldn’t") - your opinion might be different.

>>291112

I could be completely wrong about what #BoycottStarWarsVII was about then. That's just what I made out of it.

saging my own thread because… off-topic banter.

>>291112

> on the right

I meant on the left. Left. I'm apparently blind today.

>>291113

> off-topic banter.

Yes, my reasoning's the same.

>>291118

Chill out anon, this thread is allowed to stay up so stop shitposting for gods sakes.

One of the best ways to get people to no play a game is to GIVE THEM AN ALTERNATIVE.

Here is one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625_eECEw4A

store.steampowered.com/app/367270/

>>291130

This game actually looks pretty fucking good. It came on my radar recently because of Star Citizen's crap.

Speaking of SC, any new developments in that?

>>291130

That game actually looks interesting.

>>291143

Looking forward to Fallout 4. Will probably be disappointed.

>>291160

>Looking forward to Fallout 4.

Yes totally! Its looking to be pretty RADICAL man, I'm definitely pre-ordering what about you? I think that sweet Pip Boy edition is DEFINITELY worth the investment and I am TOTALLY not Todd Howard, I'm Officer Dott Soward for sheeps sakes!

>>291126

My expectations for this year are less than zero.

I cast my aspirations towards Dragon's dogma for PC and The new Xcom game both coming out next year i believe

>>291118

It's almost as if we grew up and no longer have near-infinite time to play games or something.

>>290897

well thanks anon but I already spit on EA and will spread the word but I know people who will lick Stars Wars content off EA's AIDS swollen cock and no attempt at boycotting will ever work.

>>290897

Somebody include popcap in there!

>>291250

>This thread is surprisingly civil after it went up i was expecting the usual crap that pops up in every boycott thread beforehand.

There's a difference between "GG lets say we'll boycott those that don't don't agree with us" and "This game and publisher a shit and here's proof. crash this game with no survivors"

Its subtle, I'll give you that, but the difference is important.

>>291272

Why is there any controversy with Popcap and EA as of late?

>>290912

/thread

>>291290

>responding to a 1 day old post while not reading the rest of the thread

Silly anon.

I'm agaist boycott idea. Just like all other saids.

Also it's going over dramatic with just idea of not buying product what you dont think it should be payed for.

And another problem is idea of using it with boycott of episode VII. This is really bad idea. That campaign is viewed only in those way:

- laughable noise of some twitter losers

- trolling

- real racism

- attack on art/entertaiment for themes what some people don't like are triggered by , SJW like actions.

>tfw companies not using new SW opportunity to help resurrect space sim genre.

This actually worked out well

>>290942

Not if you point out how much you are spending on a game and how much content you get for the price. unless this is parents giving stupid shit to kids then why fucking bother telling them anything.

Return to the sea.