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c923ad No.300059

Are these good points? I had what I thought was a very enlightening dream about social justice and woke up with tons of ideas I brought back from the dream world. I'm going to write an essay on this, how are my key points?

1. Social justice is essentially a form of mass vigilanteism. It is an extreme form of mob rule, and is a refusal to rely on the law for punishment and regulations. It is an ideology that claims it is capable of being an unbiased judge, jury, and executioneer all at the same time. All with zero experience with the study of law, nor the aknowledgement of individual rights.

2. Social Justice doctrine is the same dangerous principals that I grew up with in church. The idea that there is No grey area and everything is black and white. A huge problem being they claim exclusive rights to arbitrarily decide what is black and what is white, and everything they once deemed 'grey' is moved to the black.

3. Social justice ideology is a form of political and cultural fascism incapable of coexisting. It is a movement to persecute and eradicate minority opinions. It's end goal is to have everyone share the same opinions and values with again 'them' being the only ones with the authority to make such decisions. it is therefore an affront to the American way of life, and an indirect competition to our established system of government, especially the judicial system. This also applies to other western nations where the Social Justice movements are rising, and soon in Asia, specifically Japan.

4. Social Justice is a threat to liberty. It is wholly authoritarian.

5. Social justice is bad for business and profits, essentially limiting the types of entertainment, clothing, etc. that is deemed 'acceptable', while failing to change the tastes and desires of the consumers who were already buying those 'unacceptable' things, as they are labeled problematic and will feel betrayed / cast out and will stop buying those products.

I will be of course expanding on all of these topics greatly, but what does anon think about these points? Are they nonsense? Anything to refine/change/add?

03c7b0 No.300065

>>300059

> I had what I thought was a very enlightening dream about social justice and woke up with tons of ideas I brought back from the dream world. I'm going to write an essay on this

You sound creepy and obsessive. Who's realistically going to ready you essay? If you're looking to redpill, it needs to be a short video or comic-style infographic. Ain't nobody readin' essays on GG.


4551dd No.300067

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You're 100% on the money. Modern "Social Justice" are just right-wing bullies who've discovered that for now, the left-wing has gotten more susceptible to their propaganda and makes a better host.

Their tactics are no different than the ones Bush supporters used to shout down and ruin their opposition 10 years ago. No surprise that so many big names on the aGGro side were Republicans 10 years ago.


9814b2 No.300073

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>>300059

>>300067

I'm copying this from >>>/n/, it has some good points, and might be tangencially related to OP.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/09/looking-a-gift-horse-in-the-mouth/

[…] during the past year big national media have unleashed a flood of social-justice-critical stories. The Atlantic published "The Coddling Of The American Mind". Salon (Salon!) published "Campus PC Panic Is Getting Ridiculous" and "How Coddled Young Radicals Got Discomfort All Wrong". The New Republic published "Trigger Happy". Even President Obama has condemned what he called “coddled” college students, saying “that’s not the way we learn”. The UK political class is up in arms about Germaine Greer being denied platform, and the US political class is up in arms about the Halloween costume argument at Silliman College (nominative determinism!) in Yale. Complaining about social justice seems to be getting, dare I say, almost trendy.

As the old saying goes, “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”. But as the other old saying goes, “I know some Trojans who would be a lot happier if they had.” So let me explain why this sudden outpouring of support for my position makes me uncomfortable.

When I or some other random blogger complains about the social justice movement, we tend to worry about points like the following (I won’t prove/defend these claims here, just clarify what I’m worried about):

>The level of social-justice-inspired bullying online and offline that can drive people to suicide for even slightly disagreeing with social justice orthodoxy.

>The chilling effect on research when science is subordinated to political ideology, and how researchers whose results contradict social justice orthodoxy can expect to be ignored at best and subject to death threats and harassment campaigns at worst.

>The trivialization of and hostile response to anybody who claims to be suffering in a way that doesn’t fit the social-justice narrative, and opposition to attempts to alleviate such suffering.

>The use of social justice as a bludgeon by which sophisticated elites from top colleges can condemn all subcultures except their sophisticated elite subculture as being problematic, and credibly demand that they subordinate themselves to the sophisticated elites as penance.

>The conflation of the vitally important will toward political reform with the most trivial pop culture clickbait, so that instead of worrying about inequality and technological stagnation our brightest minds are discussing whether the latest Game of Thrones episode reinforces structural oppression, or if people’s Halloween costumes are okay or not.

Meanwhile, when important public figures and nationally circulating magazines complain about the social justice movement, I usually see language and arguments more like the following:

>College students are big babies!

>They’re so coddled! And weak! And they want everything to be safe all the time!

>Life isn’t a “safe space” and doesn’t have “trigger warnings”! Grow up!

These seem like different agendas. In particular, the nobody-blogger angle focuses on ways in which social justice is used to justify aggression, and the mass-media angle focuses on ways in which social justice is used to coddle weakness. […]


78e755 No.300093

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>>300059

needs moar loli


c923ad No.300097

>>300065

I'm just a person afraid of losing his favorite hobbies and interests to authoritative moral crusaders. You probably are too or else you wouldn't be here. People have already done plenty of infographics and comics, there's not much I could add to that. The thought that in ten years there might not be any more gratuitously sexual games outside of homebrew shit scares the hell out of me. I pretty much exclusively play Strategy games and japanese games with tons of fan service (DOA, Hyperdimension, etc.)

>>300067

Not sure if I'd go as far as to say that SJWs are right wing. I'm sure there are some objectives and values that align with the right wing but all of the SJWs I've met are young, college aged, pink haired self hating white kids who desperately seek the approval of minorities and the LGBT crowd. not something I generally associate with conservatives.

>>300073

That's an excellent point, though i've started to see some mainstream outlets touch on the hostility aspect.

The latest south park episode says something along the lines of "Ever since you got into social justice, you've become a bully who just sits around waiting for someone to say something wrong so you can jump down their throat" or in black ops 3 in reference to a rogue movement "It fucked up, it forgot what it was supposed to be doing and it fucked up. It's not as smart as it looks. Things just kept spiraling out of control until it became a giant fucking wrecking ball of emotion that destroys everything it touches."


6b9ffe No.300111

let's see if I can tl;dr

1) SJ is unlawful/social law (peer pressure and such), leads to mob mentality

2) SJ is dogmatic and force false dichotomy

3) SJ is ideologically incompatible with democracy and individual rights.

4) SJ is authoritatian, see 3)

5) SJ create poverty, both intellectually by forcing conformity, and while being hipster sells for a while, in the long run market dwindle cuz people stop buying eventually.


78e755 No.300120

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>>300059

>This also applies to other western nations where the Social Justice movements are rising, and soon in Asia, specifically Japan.

I should point out, the censorious moral-authoritarian equivalent to left-wing SJWs in Based Japan are hard-line Right Wing Japanese-nationalists/xenophobes like the 80-year-old Mayor of Tokyo and his retarded loli-ban (which wasn't even done to protect the fictional children, although some PTA groups did push that angle, but because it attracts weeb weirdos like me and makes Japan look bad; I.E. PR fagging. As well as Japan's bizarre hatred for my money.)


4551dd No.300127

>>300120

So just like in America? The old censorious right is being replaced with the young censorious left.


a14a93 No.300128

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>>300111

>5) SJ create poverty, both intellectually by forcing conformity, and while being hipster sells for a while, in the long run market dwindle cuz people stop buying eventually.

I would argue with point 5. The SJWs buy a lot of shit but it is useless shit eg male tears cups, this is what a feminist looks like t-shirts [see pic 2]. They do not consume things that always promote their ideology, the consume and buy things that create the illusion that they promote SJW ideology. These people are slacktivists. They care only about appearance of being "progressive" without looking at the philosophical aspects of their ideology ie their hypocrisy.

TL;DR They buy shit that pampers their egos.


60c551 No.300159

I dont get why people are really upset, these cunt knuckles have been going at it for years, just under different labels. For instance, i actually like Atheists now. Four or more years ago it was a totally different thinng as you couldn't have any online discussion without some faggot bringing religion and atheism into bully people into agreeing them. The Modus Operandi was exactly the same, and I hate to say it but r/atheism was pretty much the same style, substance, people and tone as r/gamerghazi. So what happened? Essentially Atheism was full of arseholes who wanted membership so they could be cunts to people outside of the Atheism group. Tumblr comes along, the narcissistic fuckwads in Atheism realise they can now be arseholes to people on subjects other than religion and try to shoe hornn you Joe Average skeptic into social justice (Atheism+). That doesn't work they attack Atheism and start looking for any communityy or group to shit up, all the while trying to maintain a moral highground, as was the mob MO with Atheism five years ago. What will happen is Social Justice will become unpopular, th faggots will jump on a new band wagon, still keep attacking people and we'll be having the same arguments about the same people, who are now calling themselves a different thing in another five years time. In my opinion, as someone who relentlessly trolled the Atheism community for these individuals, is ridicule, ridicule, ridicule. It's the one thing they cant handle, as they want to be engaged seriously. If you want to take on Social Justice and destroy it, work together to make it a luaghing stock. It was the ridicule and derision from the likes of Thunderfoot and other Atheists that ultimately ran them out of the community (which has them still bitter at the fedora wearing skeptics).


5906b8 No.300175

social justice is just communism re-branded, look up the Khmer Rouge see what they wanted what their ideals were where the origins of their ideas came from and how they justified the things they did.


73e84b No.300409

>>300175

This guy gets it.


72756b No.300494

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>>300059

>I had what I thought was a very enlightening dream about social justice and woke up with tons of ideas I brought back from the dream world. I'm going to write an essay on this, how are my key points?

Most my dreams involve me being bullied by strangers or i can't remember them when i wake up.

#5.Socjus isn't really bad for business only if the target audience is smart enough to notice unfortunately most of the time the target audience don't really notice because the hints are so subtle,well hidden or maybe they are too apathetic to notice.

Take the prison school dub that shoehorned socjus crap into it awkwardly that is the wrong way to do it.

And another example Socjus crap seeping into /co/ related media


40c2b3 No.300520

>>300120

Didn't that old hack get voted out recently with a moderate that accepted that there's degenerates who keep quiet with all that crap?


d09431 No.300525

>>300067

>Modern "Social Justice" are just right-wing bullies

SocJus is a variant of Marxism (you can't get more left-wing than that). Their behavior is identical to that of the Communists in rhetoric and behavior. Ask a Slav who was alive during the time of the Iron Curtain. You leftist faggots need to stop trying to link degenerate SJWs w/ the right. Those pieces of shit are your children (way too ugly to be ours). Not ours. Cuckservatives are our bastard/unwanted children.


78e755 No.300563

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>>300159

My newfriend… That's what the the red pill feels like: it burns all the way down, but it's so satisfying.

>>300520

Donno. What pissed me off the most is the hypocracy: that guy was a novelist before he became a politician who wrote period novels (historical fanfiction); one of the major plot-points, for a novel of his, was the boning of a 15-year-old girl… if turned into a manga or anime would not pass HIS OWN retarded ban.




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