YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Trump In Favor of Censoring the Internet Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 20:40:57 30fa83 No. 308246
I guess the horseshoe theory was correct. Don't get me wrong, I hate Hilary Clinton and the majority of the candidates aren't impressive, but it worries me when someone be it right or left are too attached to their political ideals that they'll sacrifice freedom for it. I'm not worried about Trump, I highly doubt alone he'll be able to export immigrants or Muslims and it's funny watching people get panic attacks thinking he's literally competent enough to be Hitler especially seeing how he's asking Bill Gates to do the censoring.
The thing is I'm worried that companies like Comcast will take advantage of him to make the damage longterm even when he gets out of office.
I hope /pol/ doesn't come here.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 21:06:43 13ad9f No. 308267
>>308246
If he tries he'll get shat on by the rest of the world.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 21:19:19 de0b11 No. 308270
>>308246
I will say the fact he think Bill Gates controls the net is damning on his ignorance, making him liable to be pressured into whatever dumb net-control/censorship.
There's a ton of shit candidates, but if the final vote is between Hillary and Trump, it's time to leave America, since we'll be losing plenty of liberty.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 21:41:31 7d7b7b No. 308283
>>308270
No argument here. Any English speaking countries that haven't gone nuts? I think I heard good things about Iceland.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 21:58:37 fe7f9d No. 308287
Did you know ISIS has a regular magazine up on the internet?
They publish stories about their glorious fighting as well as putting up ransom notices for people they've kidnapped.
It doesn't unreasonable to me to want to shut down a magazine like that, which would mean censoring the internet.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 23:28:20 4bd45b No. 308302
>>308246
How's it feel your /pol/ hero is just as bad as the other option…
Should have hitched up with a real winner.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 23:46:43 cfb1de No. 308306
>>308246
Trigger warning: dismissal of favor political candidate of /pol/.
If I wasn't completely convinced that Trump is a spoiler for the Republican Party, I'd try to unpack his diarrhea and offer specific criticism, but since I think he exists solely to make Hillary Clinton president it's just not worth the calories.
Leader 12/08/15 (Tue) 23:59:37 2f499c No. 308307
Authoritarians are authoritarians regardless of left or right.
Trump was always an authoritarian clown, some people here got suckered in because he's against political correctness.
Take it as a lesson in politics and stop being politically naive.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 00:14:14 cb5323 No. 308312
>>308307
This.
The real reason why everyone here wanted to vote for Trump because it was just to piss off liberals.
Of course he's just another guy who doesn't know anything about the internet. Left or Right, they want to censor the internet.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 01:54:00 8cb2d8 No. 308325
>>308312
Why would liberals want to piss off liberals?
Meh, Trump is Mr. Bankruptcy. It's just that most imageboarders are millenials and don't realize that. Trump is the mind candy candidate - says shit that makes you temporarily feel good or whatever. Besides, how can anyone seriously support such a combover clown?? You expect statesmanship from a dude that dyes his hair blond and has a 2 foot shank of hair he combs over and glues to the top of his head with industrial strength hairspray?
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 01:58:21 57c02b No. 308327
>>308325
RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 02:00:11 a2b1ae No. 308329
>>308325
The reason why some might be interested is due to his immigration policy. Give it a peek sometime: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 02:06:15 8cb2d8 No. 308332
>>308327
Speaking of ronin…
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 02:16:33 86c30c No. 308336
He thinks Bill Gates controls the interwebs,Holy shit Trump needs some serious reeducation from his campaign advisers.
How they allowed that blunder to slip through is shocking.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 07:46:45 d681f9 No. 308393
Many people here should just let Trump know that having MORE free speech on the internet will help combat ISIS and other terrorists, not less. Point him to 8chan (although I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he has been here at least once) to show him he has a lot of support here and that's because this is a haven of free speech that allows political incorrectness.
If everywhere on the internet had total free speech then I'm sure many people would be prevented from being islamic extremists or change their minds if they are already.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 07:49:04 284b0c No. 308394
>>308355
the fact that he wants to censor the internet is alarming, but like all old fogeys he has no idea how to go about do it.
getting Bill Gates to do it is hilarious.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 08:18:18 a0a498 No. 308402
>>308394
God knows what his foreign policy is going to be like.
Scratch that i know exactly what his foreign policy is going to be like
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 09:40:57 6ee726 No. 308409
>>308246
Both Hillary and Trump were saying the same thing. At least Trump's plan is only about combating ISIS (an actual threat) while Hillary will censor the internet so that the SJW crybullies don't read something offensive on twitter.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 09:55:43 f1bbdb No. 308412
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>308394
I will now leave this INTERNET here for your genital purposes
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 11:23:46 6805a4 No. 308430
>>308409
>but Hillary is stupid too!
No shit. They're politicians. They say things to manipulate you. Same as Trump. Doesnt matter who you buy it from, YOU are whats for sale.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 11:48:39 c6e350 No. 308432
>>308246
Nice shill thread.
Just so you're aware, this is /leftypol/ taking Trump's comments out of context and using them to "prove" he's an ebil natzi faschist.
They've been spamming /pol/ with this crap for at least a day.
He doesn't want to censor the whole internet you prog faggots, he thinks groups like ISIS that use the net to recruit impressionable dumbasses like you, who then go on to commit acts of unspeakable violence should be kicked off the net, which is a reasonable position.
He just articulated it badly, in the most bombastic and attention grabbing way possible.
>>308302
>a real winner
He's trailing in the polls, and to be frank there's no way in hell I'm ever voting for a self identified socialist, "democratic" or otherwise.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 12:23:10 c6e350 No. 308439
>>308312
I'm going to vote for him because he's the only candidate willing to tackle the immigration issue head on, and is not beholden to special interests/establishment peckerwoods.
He also wants to stop shipping jobs overseas and scrap trade agreements like TPP.
The fact he's anti PC and pisses off liberals just by existing is merely a bonus.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 12:39:06 bdfc37 No. 308443
>>308302
Not just as bad, WORSE.
He's a literal meme candidate with nothing but catchphrases that appeal to the /pol/ cretin head.
He's exactly the kind of medicine that reactionary faggots need right now. Someone that turns the white house into a literal, actual whorehouse and wrestling arena and who's gonna suck America dry.
You deserve this, you pieces of shit.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 12:42:54 bdfc37 No. 308445
>>308329
> tfw his grandfather was a german immigrant back when america had the same hate for german immigrants as they have now for mexicans
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 13:05:04 a0a498 No. 308453
>>308412
>Genital purposes
How lewd, bet you hold hands with girls as well you playboy
Nice pun btw
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 13:17:23 c6e350 No. 308457
>>308445
Those German immigrants came here legally, unlike the Mexicans.
And they weren't looked down upon as harshly as the Irish.
I know this because my ancestors came here in 1850 from Prussia.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 13:25:58 69bc8d No. 308460
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 13:38:08 c6e350 No. 308463
>>308443
Bernie's no better.
His plans are the usual pastiche of leftist talking points and pie-in-the-sky feel good promises.
And he's just there to make it look like Hillary actually running against someone for the nomination and maintain the illusion of choice instead of the reality, which is she's already their presumed candidate.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 13:47:57 776a40 No. 308465
>>308246
Look at it in context, retards
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 13:53:01 b75668 No. 308467
>>308329
Immigration is important but I'd rather just give every illegal mexican a free house if it meant avoiding some of the crazy shit trump would want. His tax plan would give breaks to the rich while bankrupting the country.
>>308432
>his is /leftypol/ taking Trump's comments out of context and using them to "prove" he's an ebil natzi faschist
I don't see how the OP's video was out of context. He's against freedom of speech and wants to censor the net. He says it right in the damn video. What context would make these opinions acceptable? If you can censor ISIS what's stopping you from censoring any other group and labeling them radicals or terrorists?
>not beholden to special interests
Anon he goes where the money is, he IS the special interests. He's abandoned companies and left them for bankrupt, laying off thousands and screwing hundreds of investors for personal gain. What makes you think he won't do the same to the US and just run off to switzerland?
>He also wants to stop shipping jobs overseas
Depending on this plan that could be good or bad. If he wants to abolish minimum wage or something then it'd be bad, because it'd just turn the US into the next china. Jobs don't mean shit if they don't pay a decent wage.
>scrap trade agreements like TPP.
Stopped clocks, etc.
>>308463
I'm inclined to agree but honestly any democrat would be better than almost any republican. Lots of talk about supreme court judges retiring/dying and the last thing this country needs is a bunch of conservative/corporate judges to undo decades of progress.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 14:03:01 c6e350 No. 308475
>>308467
>any democrat would be better than almost any republican
Then we shall have to agree to disagree, then.
Most of the candidates on both sides are unappealing to me simply because of the immigration issue.I'm for immigration, as long as it's legal.
And anyone who's in favor of amnesty and importing even more workers to displace working Americans is not getting my vote, simple as that.
In fact, I expect that attitude from the Republicans, it's utterly appalling that the Democrats should turn their backs on the working class so publicly and yet still expect their votes.
>the last thing this country needs is a bunch of conservative/corporate judges to undo decades of progress
The same follows for Bernie or Hillary, then.
Because they'll immediately nominate the farthest-left political functionary they can find, and if approved their first move will predictably be to curtail or abolish the Second Amendment.
And then it gets real bad, because there will be another civil war.
It's the main reason Obama hints at gun confiscation but doesn't actually follow through, because he knows he's playing with fire.
tl;dr
They're all bad choices, some are simply worse than others.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 14:15:27 b69888 No. 308480
>>308246
Wow i knew Trump was stupid but not THIS stupid
When he opposed feminazis and SJWs he literally got the whole internet on his side
every comic geek, every vidya fanboy, every wiafu neet, every weeb, every science nerd, everysingle person that had their hobbies and even their jobs fucked up by the far left lunatics would have supported Trump regardles of how much of a moron he's always been.
But now he goes and shits on all of that, claiming he's going to do exactly what the LWs espected the UN to do, Fuck this moron, i do want to get rid of leftist despotic, tyranical and intolerant autoritarism but i most certainly do not want to be shat on in the same way by the far right
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 16:17:56 9f8cd3 No. 308527
Have any of you seen SOPA, PIPA, or the TPP?
The government's been wanting to censor the internet for a while. They're just wrapping it in copyright protection so that companies can turn the internet into a safe space for their products.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 16:57:43 bfdb2d No. 308554
>>308246
>The thing is I'm worried that companies like Comcast will take advantage of him to make the damage longterm even when he gets out of office.
Google is actively going after the internet for everything, and they just launched a new good goy policy for youtube, to try to better silence criticizing Jews and protecting their multiculturalism.
https://archive.is/3x4dp
All Trump wants to do is prevent Muslims from using it for their crap. Trump targeting muslims on the internet isnt what is going to cause the rest of the internet to be censored. Good goys are what are going to cause that.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 17:24:58 e53345 No. 308567
>>308445
Ok you Millenial fuck, here is a lesson.
I come from the Irish Isle's of Upstate NY, google it, and you will find it. I'm 3rd generation Irish American, and I was raised to learn what we came from.
Now, I know very little of Ireland. I know a few slangs, a bit of topography, some unusual facts of life that for all I know are as obsolete as button shoes. Oh, I know a few terms in Gaelic, but I was forbidden from learning it.
Now, what I was taught, was about the potato famine. How, despite their proclaimed patriotism, how the IRA was just as bad as the British. The discrimination, who are the AoH, and about Michael J Quill.
Now, whoever says that any group of people had it worse then the Irish, they'd be lying. Were blacks slaves? Yes, and in the early years, so were many Irish (Britian continued to use Irish slaves well past the Civil War). We were compared to niggers, chinks, Indians, and we were considered beneath all of them.
You know what the stereotypes of the Irish were (and in some cases, still are), lazy violent drunks who are so backward they can't possibly work a hoe or a plow, who thinks women as nothing more then baby makers, and when something goes wrong, they simply cry, drink and pay. When they don't get there way, the mob. You know Alfred E. Newman? He's a modernization of an old Irish Political Cartoon.
Sure, blacks were considered similarly too the Irish, but no one would doubt a black man could work hard, and was a useful asset in the military. Asians? Isolations who largely stuck to themselves with strange cultures, but could work other minorities under the bus. Mexicans? Sure, they slept all day, but worked all night.
America has always had a strange love/hate relationship w/ natives, so I'm not touching that one.
Regardless, most of these stereotypes were just that stereotypes. The Irish were some of the hardest working immigrants to come to this country, building the mines and railways that would ultimately make America what it was. Sure, they were catholic (and did Americans hate the Catholics back in the day), sure they enjoyed drinking, but drinking hard is a European tradition, every country does it.
So there, the Irish being depicted as drunken brawlers, terrorists, and luddites, who have god, alcohol, and their stubbornness, continues to this day. However, the Irish, don't care. We work, because we know, that working has gotten us this far, and for the most part, we've meshed into American society, with some small subculture identity.
>pictured: a number of Irish Political Cartoons over the years, one is from the 80's.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:04:49 cb6931 No. 308614
sure is (1) in this thread
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:32:03 4f55e1 No. 308618
>>308614
I do like his anti Muslim stance but sadly that will be used against him,he really should have kept his Goddamn mouth shut at least till he became president.
Now The Muslims might vote for Hilary just to spite him and the republican party.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:37:54 4f55e1 No. 308620
Flooding your own country and encouraging other Euros to flood theirs with migrants and refugees.
Get TIME Magazine award.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:39:21 e87217 No. 308621
Worst thing is that some of us will vote for him just to shit on the sjws
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:41:25 4f55e1 No. 308622
>>308621
I'd vote for him because to puss of Hillary fags.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:42:17 4f55e1 No. 308623
>>308622
*piss* and i just love corporate America
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 20:55:44 be58f9 No. 308628
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 21:49:18 7d7b7b No. 308637
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>308623
Good for you. Be sure to tell me how much you love it once company script becomes a thing again.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 22:51:10 f9b093 No. 308646
If trump win, 1 or 2 policies, will be shaped by him. Most likely censorshipt on the interwebs and more police presence. Despite that, the voters will have an Obama moment, whre they relize: Oh no's, it was just rethoric…
I don't say that in anger or spite and aswell as a eurofag, but fucking nothing will change. America is factually spoken not a democracy. Look a reelection rates of congress members or chance a certain idea will become law based on support of the american people. Next to that america will use all tax's to pay back intrest around the year 2030. If they don't spend alot of money like obamacare or another invasion somewhere.
And don't touch the interwebs, trump is kill if he ever acts on that suggestion…
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 23:00:23 f9b093 No. 308648
>>308628
Thought so too, it's really nice post >>308567
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 23:02:27 742429 No. 308649
>>308302
Sanders and Trump support a lot of the same shit, just one is "nice" and the other isn't.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 23:05:51 e32732 No. 308652
Are there any uninhabited islands I can move to? Can I make my own underwater Atlantis-like country? Do they have any planets better than this one?
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 23:18:33 e5ab9c No. 308654
This is leftypol shill shit. Trump isn't going to censor the internet. He's just talking crazy shit like he usually does, and he was talking about ISIS anyways. I also think Cruz will be the candidate. Trump overall is good because he represents an uprising against the uptight PC crowd.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 23:20:06 4f55e1 No. 308655
I don't see the trump ads anymore.
Leader 12/09/15 (Wed) 23:39:09 e87217 No. 308658
>>308654
When you have this clown say that Mexicans have to pay to build a giant wall, and that he won't allow any Muslim into the country, you realize that the guy doesn't know anything about politics or has any idea what a president does. He's a caricature not meant to be taken seriously.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 01:00:21 81ac04 No. 308673
>>308655
I still do, turn off adblock.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 01:04:53 81ac04 No. 308674
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>>308673
I forgot the picture
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 01:20:57 e5ab9c No. 308675
>>308658
No more muslims entering the country right now would be a good thing, but it's not going to happen, because it's unconstituional. People just latched onto that to direct attention away from the president being a massive pussy who doesn't care about protecting his own citizens.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 01:59:20 de0b11 No. 308680
>>308674
Who paid for those, anyway? Some jokester, or some on the actual Trump campaign?
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 02:15:07 81ac04 No. 308684
>>308680
I don't but the link is legit.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 02:38:03 277ad7 No. 308688
>>308618
>he really should have kept his Goddamn mouth shut at least till he became president.
Polls say otherwise. Nigga can't be stumped.
>>308675
>but it's not going to happen, because it's unconstituional
Constitution applies only to U.S. citizens. There's precedent for this sort of thing as well, with the nation limiting immigration from Germany and Italy during the second world war.
>inb4 spirit of the law
You brought up a legal document, and used a legal argument. I answer in turn, without getting feefees into the mix.
sage 12/10/15 (Thu) 04:19:21 e5ab9c No. 308695
>>308688
Yeah, you can block immigration from countries. You can't do it based on religion though, the US can't make laws regarding religion. The thing that pisses me off about this was Obama was getting his balls fed to him before this bullshit gave the liberal media shield to hide behind. I expect more terrorist attacks soon though, so we'll see how long that lasts.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 07:23:43 b0e3c9 No. 308728
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 07:35:09 d681f9 No. 308730
>>308695
Obama already discriminates against certain immigrants based on their religion. Here are a few examples:
https://archive.is/cwqxF
>At the end of World War II, the Jewish survivors of Europe’s Holocaust found that nearly every door was closed to them. “Tell Me Where Can I Go?” was a popular Yiddish song at the time. Decades later, the Christians of the Middle East face the same problem, and the Obama administration is keeping the door shut.
>America is about to accept 9000 Syrian Muslims, refugees of the brutal war between the Assad regime and its Sunni opposition, which includes ISIS, Al Qaeda, and various other militias. That number is predicted to increase each year. There are no Christian refugees that will be admitted.
https://archive.is/Lztwm
>There is irrefutable evidence that Christians are being tortured, raped and beheaded for Christ’s name in both Iraq and Syria. Regardless, the Justice Department alleges that Iraqi and Syrian Christians would be safe enough to return home – in spite of the fact that many of them have no homes to return to, since they have either been confiscated or destroyed by Islamic Sunni fighters.
>On the other hand, the Obama administration has paid to transport tens of thousands of Muslim refugees from the exact same region without hesitation. It is absurd for the Justice Department to argue that it is safe for Christians to return to a raging Islamic war zone at the same time “moderate” Muslims are freely admitted to the United States – because the same area is deemed unsafe for them.
https://archive.is/JNN39
>Uwe and Hannelore Romeike came to the United States in 2008 seeking political asylum. They fled their German homeland in the face of religious persecution for homeschooling their children.
>They wanted to live in a country where they could raise their children in accordance with their Christian beliefs.
>The Romeikes were initially given asylum, but the Obama administration objected – claiming that German laws that outlaw homeschooling do not constitute persecution.
>“I think this is a part of the Obama administration’s overall campaign to crush religious freedom in this country,” said Michael Farris, chairman of the Home School Legal Defense Association. His organization is representing family.
>“The Obama administration’s attitude toward religious freedom, particularly religious freedom for Christians is shocking,” he told me in an exclusive telephone interview. “I have little doubt that if this family had been of some other faith that the decision would have never been appealed in the first place. They would have let this family stay.”
>Had the family stayed in Germany, where homeschooling is illegal, they would have faced the prospect of losing their children. Like the Pilgrims, they fled their homeland yearning for a place where they could be free.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 08:39:16 d681f9 No. 308732
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. A motivational speech from Trump.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 12:56:29 b0e3c9 No. 308754
>>308730
>https://archive.is/Lztwm
That's a really bad article and not proof that the Obama discriminates certain immigrants based on their religion. In fact, that's article is about the Obama administration prosecuting someone for falsifying immigration reports.
Also, that family in the second article wasn't even deported
http://www.newsmax.com/US/homeschool-germany-family-asylum/2014/03/04/id/556072/
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 14:19:42 6ee726 No. 308756
>>308695
>>308730
>discrimination of religion
I always found this hilarious. Religion is a belief system, it isn't a superficial characteristic like skin color and what's between someone's legs. If someone espouses racism or sexism they would be "discriminated" against but if I dare "discriminate" someone for believing in skywizradry that's somehow not ok. It's asinine.
inb4 but kids are indoctrinated with religion from young age
That's the narrative with sexism and racism too.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 15:14:07 189d49 No. 308761
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 15:36:33 3aa2f6 No. 308768
>>308688
>Nigga can't be stumped.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 15:40:56 13ad9f No. 308772
>>308756
Pretty much that.
I only recently realized it, but it simplify things way more than it should.
And, let's face it: Judaism and Islam are the same fucking shit with different names for each same shit and different cloth of terrible bad tastes, the only reason why Christians are different is because members have protested against having their dick cut off to flip the bird to the jews.
Desiring the death of religions is honorable, they cause more harm on humanity in the long term.
In my case I only have a beef againt the Big Tree (and Scientology because they are crazy faggots) but otherwise I got nothing against druidism, paganism, buddhism and other minor religions (yes it still exists, at least in Europe)
To get back on topic, I find trump very unlikeable, and that's why I kinda like him.
I'm still not picturing him as president, considering how he manages his staff.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 16:40:19 8b3710 No. 308780
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>308772
okay I don't think you realize how worse Islam actually is, at least on the fundamental level. I am not talking about how one choose to exercise his religion, I am talking about in depth statistical analysis of what the holy scripture contains, and the in-so-far historic account of what has already been done in the name of religion. If you think crusades were bad ya really need to learn what happened before it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmyGC96ClcE#t=7m07s to skip the intro
sage cuz this is not GG related
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 16:56:58 6ee726 No. 308782
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>308772
All religions make the same error of privileging faith over reason but they are not the same in terms of how how much violence their texts encourage. Jains cannot step on insects. Meanwhile violence toward disbelievers is not only encouraged but prescribed by Muhammad. And this has real world consequences, people are motivated by their beliefs. The claim that Islamists are violent because Americans bombed their houses is easily shown to be false since Islam was spread by the sword before America even existed. Meanwhile Tibetan Buddhists who have been under China's boot under far worse circumstances than what's happening to Muslims by the US forces do not react in the same way. This because the teachings of Buddha are pacifistic. The few times Buddhists have revolted violently is following years of oppression by Muslims.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 17:43:05 4a84d1 No. 308791
>Is censoring the internet the answer
NO. It's a cycle over and over again. If you push too people to far they go to the other camp. And in this case they'll actively seek information like this
>Is there a problem on the net
Absolutely. And we know as good as anyone that Twitter and Youtube censoring is some of the most worthless pieces of garbage around. How is that leopirate gets banned but GAAYteam twitter fags get spared I will never know.
Counter propaganda ladies and gentlemen. That's how you win this. That's why the fight against the PC-SJW crowd has to continue. Because all those people are is HIV to the immune system. You think drooling buffoons like Mcintosh and Sarkeesian brought a country to prominence? no. It was assholes like Trump. PC-SJW's effectively make society's weaker. It's like if a shepherd started killing all his sheep dog. (Who's going to protect your sheep when your gone?)
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 17:49:57 13ad9f No. 308792
>>308780
>>308782
Every one of the three major religions are corrupt nowadays, Islam just happened to be corrupted by the same man who created it, when the other took generation to get shit fucked.
And now here's the same conclusion as before:
REMOVE RELIGION
I don't care whether is the most dangerous of the three, because I think they don't have to belong to a world of reason to begin with.
I'm not responding to further comments as to stop derailing the thread, but I will read your responses, be assured.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 17:55:37 6ee726 No. 308794
>>308792
>REMOVE RELIGION
Absolutely. Though I don't think there is anything to corrupt with religion. Violent or not religion is a systematic corruption in reasoning.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 18:00:25 8b3710 No. 308796
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>308792
Islam is NOT just a religion
The problem come down to Islam being a political system and its teaching is a manual for civilization warfare.
Yes religions are a problems in general but none is as big of a threat to current civilization than Islam, out of the three religion only Islam refuse the golden rule by scripture, it is allowed to deceive to meet its end. It also refuse critical thought, but that tar is shared by most religions.
by the way have ya watched the 1st video? if ya liked it here is another.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 18:22:00 13ad9f No. 308806
>>308796
>The problem come down to Islam being a political system and its teaching is a manual for civilization warfare.
Catholicism used to be a political system too may I remind you.
I think we call that "the dark age".
But yeah, I can only agree with you, especially considering the two terrorist shootings this years in my own country. There is something very rotten in the Islamic teachings.
Gah fuck, this should be a discussion on /pol/.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 18:36:35 8b3710 No. 308811
>>308806
powers that be used it for political gains, it was not inherently political, big difference. Islam scriptures specifically says how to defeat your enemies and how to ruin their shit.
and yes, this would be for a nice /pol/ discussion. How did we get from Trump's shenanigans to this?
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 19:19:20 c6e350 No. 308813
>>308675
Actually, it is Constitutional.
Congress has total say over who can and can't enter the country, and the legal protections spelled out do not apply to non-citizens.
And there's precident, Carter banned the entry of Iranians into the country during the hostage crisis, not to mention the German, Italian, and Japanese exclusions a generation before that.
Trump is in the right on this, every argument against it has no basis in fact.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 19:23:43 c6e350 No. 308814
>>308695
Congress has the power to exclude any group of people for any reason or none at all.
And once again, the legal protections in it do not apply to non citizens.
If they wanted to, they could permanently exclude all Muslim non citizens.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 19:30:59 c6e350 No. 308818
>>308806
The difference here is Christianity went through the Reformation and the Renaissance.
Islam did not.
It's still the same ass backwards bullshit it was when it was founded.
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 21:02:00 232d33 No. 308836
he said we need to look into the internet where ISIS uses social media for contacts and terror recruitment. Does not mean absolute repealing of 1st amendment you dumbfucks
Leader 12/10/15 (Thu) 23:55:26 8b3710 No. 308849
>>308836
yeah well, it's one hell of a slippery slope, sure ya can have consequence like when you incite violence and harm upon others, or threaten them yourself but you are not stopping them from saying anything.
Though I suppose it amount to how you gonna limit their abilities to do propaganda, is it only removal of platform? where is the line between preaching islam and inciting jihad?
will you be preventing them from creating their own website or preventing it from surfacing on google?
It all comes down to how he supposedly wanna go on about it, but truthfully I think than on this very specific topic he is full of shit/a moron. Still like the guy and would I be American I would vote for him, gotta choose your poison.
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 00:45:44 8dcaae No. 308852
>>308836
You get terrorists off the web by kicking their doors and shooting them, the soft, self censorship by websites approach hasn't made a fucking dent in commercial CP, it's not gonna touch terrorism.
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 01:25:07 4bd45b No. 308857
>>308649
Oh, when Bernie was DEAD AGAINST the TPP, NAFTA, and other trade mistakes? When he fully supports Net Neutrality? Come on…
Trump and Sanders are like night and day.
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 03:02:53 4a84d1 No. 308869
>>308658
The Idea was that the U.S. would forgive what ever debt it is owed by Mexico in return for building the wall.
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 03:03:30 c03d08 No. 308870
>>308649
>>308857
Sanders may sound ok but he's promising a lot of things that can't be realized with an increase in taxes.
Trump is just a smug Pepe personified, he doesn't care what names you throw at him.
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 06:11:37 d681f9 No. 308924
>>308768
>Trump is racist!
Blacks support him the most in that poll.
So? The hispanics hate him because he clearly hates them if he wants to build a big wall at the Mexican border and claims that illegal immigrants are criminals.
Hispanics are the 2nd most supportive of Tump in that poll.
>Yeah, well he's sexist!
Women support him most in that poll.
>Who cares, only bigoted old fogeys support him anyway.
The youngest voting demographic support him most in that poll.
NARRATIVE FUCKING OBLITERATED!
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 06:13:24 d681f9 No. 308925
>>308924
Sorry, my mistake, hispanics are actually 3rd most supportive, but only off by 1%.
Leader 12/11/15 (Fri) 09:01:22 a0a498 No. 308943
>>308680
Judging by how long those ads are always up unless the subscription runs out i have a fair assumption that the Trump ads are paid for by the trump campaign trail or a trump enthusiast.
At least 8chan gets money f to fund and run the site, there's still no Hillary or Sanders Ads to balance everything out.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 02:33:08 4bd45b No. 309008
>>308924
Oh, and who did that poll? You know a poll can be set up to fit ANY narrative, right? At least the unscientific ones. Which is the only way Trump could get those numbers.
Anyone supporting Trump now is acting against their own interests.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 03:22:02 351cb0 No. 309014
>>309008
>Anyone supporting Trump now is acting against their own interests.
Except for anyone who doesn't want to continue being oppressed by SJW tyrants.
Trump may be a stupid crooked cunt, but he will destroy western civilization at a much slower rate than his competition. It's pathetic that we've come to this.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 03:34:47 4bd45b No. 309015
>>309014
Thing is he's still destroying civilization.
You're acting against your own interests, and Hillary isn't much better.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 03:44:41 c6e350 No. 309018
>>309015
She isn't ANY better.
The point is NONE of them are good options.
From where I'm sitting, the Democrats are hellbent on running the country over a cliff at 100 mph, and the Republicans are doing the same, at a more sedate 30 mph.
And don't say Bernie will save us, he's essentially the Ron Paul of the left, and he's only in the race to prop up the illusion that the Democrats actually have a choice of candidates, when in fact Hillary is already their anointed.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 04:33:49 351cb0 No. 309024
>>309015
Hillary will disintegrate western civilization in her first term.
The best situation would be to start assassinating these criminal politician scum like they deserve.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 07:48:53 6bfc18 No. 309038
>Trump promotes the exact thing we oppose
>No, no guys, he's still a good candidate! Honest! Can't stump the Trump!
You people are retarded.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 08:31:04 2fd244 No. 309042
>>308246
>You people thought you had real choices
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 09:31:09 d681f9 No. 309048
>>309038
If Trump truly is independent (I know he's running as a Republican but he says nobody controls him and has turned down all the lobbyists) then he's more likely to be able to be reasoned with in regards to internet policies compared to the other candidates from both parties who are all most likely controlled by the same people. (Apart from possibly Ben Carson.)
From what I've seen he's the only candidate worth voting for. He can't be worse than the others and he claims to be anti-PC so that should encourage the general public to be anti-PC too which is a great thing for humanity regardless of anything else he does, unless the MSM is right in calling him literally Hitler, which I seriously doubt.
Ultimately the whole system of government should be changed to a lot better and fully democratic one that abolishes parties. Although the idea I've had for a new system of government is for the UK, I don't know if it could be implemented exactly the same in the USA, but I'm sure at least a similar one could work.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 09:52:53 d681f9 No. 309049
>>309033
Is Harmful Opinions the guy that does the voice for those text-to-speech programs like used in that video? I'm being serious. When I first heard Harmful Opinions I thought he was using a text-to-speech program but later I heard him live and realised it was his own voice, lol!
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 12:36:44 b5bb3c No. 309071
>>308818
To be fair, that's because Islam never needed too. I think. It's not like Christianity evolved and changed because it was a good thing but because it had to.
I don't think Islamic countries went trough Reformation and Renaissance as we did, right?
Anyway, I think we can all agree that there needs to be a separation of Religion and State in pretty much all Islamic countries.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 12:40:29 5f105f No. 309072
Trump is a massive Authoritarian compared to Cruz…
wake up people. Stop buying into the hype.
>>308287
>waaaaaahhhhh protect me from ISIS by limiting my freedom
SACK THE FUCK UP
Go grab a copy of Tor's Hammer and DDoS every pro-ISIS website you find.
Fucking normies I swear.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 15:51:24 d681f9 No. 309086
Trump has basically declared war on Saudi Arabia!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/675523728055410689
It's on. On like fucking Donkey Kong!
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 18:55:27 4bd45b No. 309100
>>309024
And we found the cointelpro bull-baiter.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 18:59:36 4bd45b No. 309102
>>309018
You say Bernie won't win when Polls have been showing the people want Bernie. He's no illusion.
And before you say Hillary is on the Left she's a right-wing corporatist compared to the gonzo-right of Trump. Hillary is the lesser of two evils, true, but Bernie isn't even in their zone of influence, and his policies are more true centrist policies than anything.
Look at Eisenhower's platforms. That is Bernie's way out of this mess and it'll work.
YFW Bernie Sanders is more a true Republican than the clowncar they got.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 19:00:42 4bd45b No. 309103
>>309086
Actually the Saudis control us already. Their contracts with US oil firms… well they aren't truly US firms anymore… those firms secretly contribute to candidates. Usually on the right-wing.
Leader 12/12/15 (Sat) 20:57:54 351cb0 No. 309118
>>309102
Missing from that list is "ensure the poor get to keep their guns".
i/n/finite /mlp/ 12/12/15 (Sat) 22:16:07 a99c9c No. 309139
>>308430 At least Trump doesn't make me want to do a drive-by on DC with a katyusha.
Anyone who doesn't see the only choices are between Trump and Sanders is probably a dissident or saboteur that wants to see the west under Sharia law.
>>308467 Shill harder, plebbit.
>>imblying the libcucks of murriclaps haven't been doing all this and worse since 1947
Leader 12/15/15 (Tue) 22:53:26 92d49b No. 309514
ONE THING:
He is pro NSA.
He may have some opinions that the "evil side" dont want people to have, and would not even include a decoy guy there just to fake some opposition, but… is a "normal" guy not "redipilled" on a lot of areas.
He is no being brought by the elite, or he would never talk about this "build wall" stuff, but he is still bad.
Also the candidate that is against NSA is the son of the "its happening" guy, so you should vote on him.
>"ok but what other things he will do"
Being pro nsa is like saying that a law that would not allow people to have more than one children would be a good thing.
Its easy as hell to know this law is ultra stupid and its easy as hell to know nsa stuff is stupid, so voting on someone that is pro this law is essential stuff
since he is the only one against NSA there is no need to search more about him
Leader 12/15/15 (Tue) 23:06:32 11361d No. 309515
>>308246
>I hope /pol/ doesn't come here
They've been tied to GG from day one, little late for that.
Leader 12/16/15 (Wed) 16:00:52 259792 No. 309636
>>308246
M8 you may as well save yourself years of heart ache and confusion and become right wing now.
Gamergate has demonstrated how the left values their ideologically driven narrative over the truth.
The conservative media is the only place who has given us a fair hearing. Which has caused many left wing GG people to move to the right.
You dont have to become extremely right wing.
Center right is the most welcoming area of politics. We dont look down on you if you are a white male. You dont have to say certain things to be accepted. Just be who you are.
Trust me on this. I was just like you a number of years back.
Leader 12/16/15 (Wed) 23:59:06 313139 No. 309694
>>309636
>Gamergate has demonstrated how the left values their ideologically driven narrative over the truth.
I can say the same of the right. I mean, they're a bunch of godboys, they don't know what facts are.
Leader 12/17/15 (Thu) 12:20:11 259792 No. 309746
>>309694
That is a fair comment.
When it comes to religion, some people on the right cant help but allow their ideology and preconceived notions to win out over facts and understanding.
When it comes to gamergate, some people on the left cant help but allow their ideology and preconceived notions to win out over facts and understanding.
Leader 12/17/15 (Thu) 23:07:20 792e8a No. 309775
To get the PC institution out of power, we gotta take in some collateral damage.
Leader 12/18/15 (Fri) 02:33:05 99e765 No. 309788
>>309636
>Gamergate has demonstrated how the left values their ideologically driven narrative over the truth.
Considering the fact that the majority of GG participants are in fact left-leaning, this is a awfully presumptuous generalization.
>The conservative media is the only place who has given us a fair hearing.
One or two people in one or two publications in the conservative media. I didn't see Fox News coming to our defense, did you? There's been a number of people in the liberal media how have done the same.
Leader 12/19/15 (Sat) 15:21:45 91e5a9 No. 309851
it's populism, people. Trump will say anything he can to win the election, no matter how contradictory it looks
Leader 12/19/15 (Sat) 17:01:36 277ad7 No. 309858
>>309102
> Hillary is the lesser of two evils, true
U wot m8
Leader 12/19/15 (Sat) 18:50:53 6ee726 No. 309868
>>309102
Hillary is the worst one of them all. She will stomp on free speech because of hurt feelings. At least with Trump it's an actual threat.
Leader 12/19/15 (Sat) 22:11:24 019397 No. 309880
>>309788
every single SJW is a leftist, you can't be serious if you think that the right is just as anti-gg as them
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 02:01:09 f1bbdb No. 309890
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Euro Truck Simulator: Mad Max Edition
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 05:45:39 587a83 No. 309909
Is trump still trying to censor the interwebs?
I will spam his official twitter page with animus as a form of protest if he doesn't cut that shit out.
We already have chucklefucks in govt trying to do the same thing
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 09:20:08 b18c9d No. 309916
>>309890
lol made same joke on reddit
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 09:22:36 b18c9d No. 309917
>>308246
Dear faggot gamerliberals, Donald Trump has not advocated shutting down the internet. He has advocated shutting down ISIS' telecommunications capabilities.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 10:56:15 8cc876 No. 309919
>>309917
Translation,what he said was "Taken out of context".
I still see that Trump Ad on here,just how much is that guy willing to spend to advertise to a bunch of basement dwelling autists half of which are underage and can't vote anyway.
Surely 4chan would be a more attractive option than this dump.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 14:42:50 259792 No. 309927
>>309919
>Surely 4chan would be a more attractive option than this dump.
I doubt they would allow Trump on their site.
4chan is only for politically correct left wing approved content.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 14:48:54 6ebe7b No. 309929
Trump is a joke. His supporters are pathetic. That's all there is to say about him.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 15:05:43 259792 No. 309932
>>309788
>Considering the fact that the majority of GG participants are in fact left-leaning, this is a awfully presumptuous generalization.
I wasnt talking about GG participants. I was talking about GGs opponents.
The SJWs. All of which are left leaning. Hence why I commented about left leaning people being ideologically driven.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 15:21:42 259792 No. 309935
>>309929
Dry your eyes m8.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 17:47:13 b1d373 No. 309947
>>308857
>Oh, when Bernie was DEAD AGAINST the TPP, NAFTA, and other trade mistakes?
Yes, exactly like Trump, albeit for different reasons.
Leader 12/20/15 (Sun) 17:48:01 b1d373 No. 309948
>>309008
Why the fuck would MSNBC rig a poll in support of Trump?
Leader 12/21/15 (Mon) 07:30:23 8f8f82 No. 310019
>People still want this self absorbed reality tv show star to be president
OK I know some of you guys on here get hard thinking about Trump as your big bad republican daddy, and hell, even I kinda get the appeal in the current political climate. But come on. the guy is a buffoon, so fucking rich he isn't living anywhere near the reality of regular people.
Leader 12/21/15 (Mon) 10:10:51 ecf014 No. 310024
>The top jew and shitposter of the political arena is in favor of censorship.
In other news, did you know that snails make terrible shoelaces?
Leader 12/21/15 (Mon) 13:36:21 c6e350 No. 310032
>>310019
Still better than the bullshit candidates that the Democrats have on offer.
Hillary "Richard Nixon in a pantsuit" Clinton or that crusty faux socialist Bernie "cucked by Black Lies Matter" Sanders.
The only people they appeal to are crooked business interests and retarded college kids that don't know their asses from their elbows.
At least Trump has the virtue of not being bought and paid for.
Leader 12/21/15 (Mon) 15:25:12 277ad7 No. 310043
>>310019
Trump's childhood was lower middle class, and his policy isn't at the mercy of lobbyists. He's a hell of a lot more relatable than any other candidate.
Leader 12/21/15 (Mon) 20:46:58 0fc9f1 No. 310084
>>310032
You're right, Trump has the virtue of being completely incompetent and woefully inexperienced for any major political position.
Leader 12/22/15 (Tue) 00:11:29 c6e350 No. 310104
>>310084
>(1)
Yes, he's so incompetent he parlayed the million bucks he borrowed from his dad (and payed back with interest) into a few billion, a successful brand name, and instant recognition the world over.
And I'll be taking that over a punch-clock seat warmer like Bernie or a genuinely malicious and untrustworthy politician like Hillary.
Leader 12/22/15 (Tue) 03:50:02 ecf014 No. 310114
>>310032
He doesn't need to be bought and paid for. People are more than glad to dump millions of dollars in his lap so he can install gold toilet seats on airplanes and claim bankruptcy for the nth time after that doesn't pan out.
That's not just a mistake, that is literally the Game Over of financial endeavors. And this man has managed to hemorrhage other people's money at least a dozen times. He's no king of investments, he's someone that coasts by on his name from one millionaire to the next. "So what if I ran multiple resorts into the ground within months of acquiring them? Look at how pretty this fountain is! It's luxury! I have a TV show, I wouldn't just NOT know what I'm doing, right?" And when questioned how he fucked up, his answer is usually a giggle and a shrug of his shoulders, along with something around the lines of "Just be glad you didn't give me -more- money!"
Just remember, DSP is also crap at what he does and most of the people that follow him do so simply to see how much worse he can fuck up something, but you get the one idiot in a million that's genuinely willing to buy him a new camera or computer. Trump is the DSP of investments. A happy little idiot that sperges out over inconsequential shit and is actually quite terrible at his job, but keeps getting bailed out because the universe occasionally likes to hand out global Fuck Yous for shits and giggles.
Going from dishonest politicians to honest dipshits is not the answer, and somebody that thinks he can ask Bill Gates to help him shut down the internet is one of those things.
Leader 12/22/15 (Tue) 06:39:34 abdb3c No. 310137
Trump has the confidence and has said some things recently I agree with, but I don't know. The idea of him being a president terrifies me.
Leader 12/22/15 (Tue) 13:11:51 c6e350 No. 310161
>>310114
He's still better than his opponents.
One of whom is an actual criminal on the level of the Godfather, and is not being held accountable by ANYONE.
And if that isn't a damning indictment of our political system, nothing is.
I'm still voting for him over Hilldwg or the Bernmeister.
Leader 12/22/15 (Tue) 14:39:15 73c1c6 No. 310164
>>309927
Pretty sure you could still post Trump content on 4/pol/ .
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 00:38:04 0d81d8 No. 310215
>>310137
>Trump becomes President
Closes all foreign military bases and tells the countries to learn how to fend for themselves Murica will no longer play world police.
Increases bombing all isis by 50%
Turns Murica into the world's largest Conglomerate
China & Russia cower in fear
Trump will make Ameica Great again or die trying.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 05:38:54 abdb3c No. 310242
>>310215
He's flipped his opinion on things multiple times is what I mean.
To me that says he's not so different from everybody else.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 05:44:01 76d77c No. 310244
God you fucks are dumb, if you listened to the full speech he's saying that we should eliminate access to the internet in ISIS controlled territories. Which really isn't that bad of an idea and can be done through jamming technology and cutting data cords(if those are even over there, its probably all satellites). Disrupting enemy communication lines is basic strategy in war.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 05:51:58 ac7df2 No. 310246
vote trump
he's a long shot, but he's the only candidate that could actually make america great again.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 06:00:55 277ad7 No. 310247
>>310242
Has be flipped during his campaign? There's nothing inherently wrong with someone changing positions on an issue, it's just contradicting your election platform that's shitty.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 06:14:30 ac7df2 No. 310249
>>310244
Can't be helped.
The establishment, both left and right are shitting themselves over the Trumpening that is occuring.
You wouldn't believe the amount of anti-trump shill threads on /pol/. Despite the sheer folly of trying to shill /pol/acks.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 07:51:59 abdb3c No. 310255
>>310247
Not that I'm aware.
But I can't shake the feeling it might only be a matter of time.
You know the saying. Hope for the best, expect the worst. I've been doing that a lot lately.
But I want the great kind of president we haven't had in decades. Trump shows signs of it. I want him to prove me wrong.
Maybe I'm just a pessimist.
Leader 12/23/15 (Wed) 14:46:28 277ad7 No. 310282
>>310255
I know how you feel. Just remember: no matter what happens, Trump at his worst still isn't as bad as Clinton at her best.
Leader 12/24/15 (Thu) 06:20:58 3cc7af No. 310387
>this thread still exists
No wonder this place is absolutely fucking dead.
Leader 12/25/15 (Fri) 20:48:15 20735e No. 310555
>>308553
This sounds like a good plan.
Leader 12/25/15 (Fri) 22:07:19 313fe3 No. 310563
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. There should be a gg version of this tbh.