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Shinji pussied out and called off Armageddon at the last minute. Were bunkered here for the time being.

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e3d711 No.311593

(Also posted this on /r/KotakuInAction subreddit)

> Once upon the time, there used to be a scientist called Gamus Developus. He did a bit of this and a bit of that, but his main interest was astronomy. He would spend a lot of time looking through his telescope and making charts of the star sky.

> One day, Gamus noticed something. He noticed a certain pattern involving planetary and Sun movement. He studied that pattern, then did a lot of calculations and after a lot of hard work, came to a shocking conclusion - it's not that the Sun and other planets are revolving around Earth, but actually, all the planets, including Earth, are revolving around Sun.

> He had to publish these findings because of their high importance so of course he did.

> Socialis Justis Variores was a High Inquisitoress of the Holy Church. Because of that, it was her job to make sure no heresies appear and if they do, to stamp them out by any means necessary. The town where Gamus lived was within her jurisdiction.

> When Gamus published his findings, Socialis took a look at them and didn't like them, for they were heresy because they contradicted the Holy Teachings that said the Sun and other planets revolved around the Sun. Doing what was her duty, she immediately ordered Gamus' arrest under the charge of heresy.

> When the two of them faced each other for the first time, in court, Socialis gave Gamus a choice - either peacefully abandon your findings, your heresy, and walk away free and with untarnished reputation or have them repressed by us by force and be branded a heretic or something even worse.

> Gamus was a scientist. If he was branded a heretic, it would ruin his entire life, not to mention his career, and he most certainly didn't like the sound of that "something even worse," so he recanted his "heresy" and burned his notebooks himself. It pained him deeply and still left a minor stain on his record, so to say, but at least he could still continue with both his life and his job.

> Cue 30 years later. Gamus Developus' son, Gamus Developus II (let's call him Junior) was a scientist himself. However, where his father's primary interest was astronomy, Junior's passion was biology.

> One day, Junior was studying an animal life on some remote island group when he himself noticed some sort of pattern in animal "kinds." He did some intense research and came to a shocking revelation himself - modern animals actually evolved from earlier animals.

> He had to publish these findings because of their high importance… so of course he didn't. Why?

> The Holy Teachings say the Goddess created each and every animal "kind" "by hand", not that the animals evolved. Junior was not stupid. He very well knew this might get him in trouble with the Holy Church, just like his father's findings got him in trouble. He didn't want any troubles himself so he knew there was only one thing to do in his position.

> He preemptively burned the notebooks where he noted his progress in this research.

> Gamus Gatorus, not related with any of Gamus Developus', of course, was a historian and a chronicler. It was his job to, obviously, study history that already happened and record what's happening right now.

> Somehow, Gatorus found out about what Junior did. He came out and publicly accused the Holy Church of censoring the scientists in order to make their findings fit the Holy Teachings. Of course, Socialis quickly arrived for a… talk.

> Socialis: "We didn't do nothing. We're not here to take away your science. It was Developus' own decision to withdraw his findings, for some reason."

> Gatorus: "He had to rely on self-censorship, because, if he didn't, you'd threaten to excommunicate him and label him a heretic, which would ruin his life. You [the Holy Church] forced him, through fear, to rely on self-censorship."

> Socialis: "No, Gatorus, self-censorship is not real. Like I already said, it was his own decision."

> She then proceeded to label Gatorus a devil worshiper and literally worse than Ladof Do'Hisller, the Empreror of the Third Drow Empire.

Moral of the story: you don't need to actively work on "taking away your X" - you only need to create an atmosphere of fear where the creators of X will do it for you via self-censorship, which also gives you a convenient excuse to say "we didn't do nothing."

9616a5 No.311666

>>311593

This is a shitty thread, they're going to love it over at r/KiA. Instead of writing all this you could have sent some emails.


14ed07 No.311714

What a shitty comparison. Most Christians involved in the GG debacle are pro-GG.


785207 No.312001

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>>311593

I thought the problem with Galileo was that, when others in the scientific community ostracized him because his theory relied on elliptical orbits - which nobody else believed, did not have evidence to support it, and intruments at the time could not verify it - he got upset because his patron, who was some bishop or other, said he should stop being such a strident faggot and quit pushing it. Galileo started spreading some vicious rumours about said patron, and burned a liot of bridges.

See, the point of patronizing an artist or a philosopher or a scientist was that you use your wealth to enable them to pursue their craft full time and with a minimum or distraction, furthering the cause of humanity… it's prestigious. It looks good to your neighbors. "I'm not just fucking loaded, I'm GOOD FOR THE SPECIES. What have you done lately, CENTRAL EUROPE?"

'Course, hanging your patron out to dry with slander means nobody wants to patronize you anymore.

Later, when Galileo started calling for wealthy landowners who happened to have church appointments get their possessions and holdings stripped from them, he was charged with being some kind of revoltard attempting to purge the nobility - which is a pretty accurate charge.

Nobody wanted to back up Galileo in court and defend his innocence because Galileo shat all over the guy that had backed him before.

Result: Galileo is tried as a criminal and no one stands in his defense because he burned everyone that might have YEARS ago; Galileo loses and gets a similar end to every other peasant who starts calling for the nobility to be ousted.

It's really neat how you think this was a religious affair and not almost entirely secular in nature.

Also, on Darwin: the Catholic Church did what it generally does regarding any new discovery, and acted like a massive, inert bureaucracy weighed down by the thousands of moving parts. Which is to say, it offered absolutely no ruling on it until about a hundred and fifty years ago when the position was switched from "we really haven't had enough time for our hundreds of trained academics and theologists to consider the ramifications and debate each other to figure out a proper position" to "yeah, this is in no way conflicting with the bible."

Why are you running with a protestant propaganda narrative unsupported by historical evidence to try and elucidate a different propaganda narrative which is similarly unsupported by evidence? You're trying to redpill with a bluepill.

THIS IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.


7ee8d1 No.312011

Let me tell you a story… a story 'bout a man named Jed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4SDhrTPOiI


7ee8d1 No.312012

File: 1452450908795.jpg (61.42 KB, 431x468, 431:468, science_vs_pseudo.jpg)

Seriously now, we should spread the word that SJWs are anti-science. Does anyone have more images like this one?


e3f7fb No.312020

Wow, congratulations, this is the most autistic thing I've seen for a couple of months. And I'm a regular /cow/ browser.


7f800d No.312021

>>312020

peter pls


9616a5 No.312023

>>312001

Galileo argued for Heliocentrism (the star is in the middle) which explains the retrograde motion of heavenly bodies.

The evidence against Galileo is Stellar Parallax, if the Earth moved around the sun, then nearby stars should shift in the sky relative to more distant stars, which was theorized but never seen until 200 ish years after Galileo's death. As it had never been detected by any astronomer they assumed it wasn't occurring, the logical conclusion of that being that the Earth was the centre of the solar system and the universe, a position that the Roman Catholic Church supported.

The Roman Inquisition investigated it and told Galileo, "Its just a theory mate, why don't you try researching something less heretical?" To which Galileo said, "Fuck you and fuck your Pope" in a very well written paper on the subject. This pissed of the Pope and his patrons (the only patrons that existed at the time were Royalty or the Church btw) and so he was tried and found guilty of Heresy.

Because he was a top bloke though he was placed under house arrest, where he wrote some of his greatest works before he died.

It was a religious affair.

Comparing SJWs to the Roman Inquisition is hugely melodramatic and autistic, it doesn't help.


979980 No.312055

>>312020

It's Sinead O'Coalburner shilling. Drama thread.


785207 No.312324

>>312023

So what you're asserting is that he deliberately pissed on a political authority and then got his shit slapped, which makes it a religious affair?

Yeah, no. No one who carries power is going to brook that shit; the church involvement is a red herring. It turns out the same if he pisses on a baron, a duke, a king, a syndic, or a doge.


785207 No.312327

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>>312324

Forgot my image, and an expansion.

So, say literally any other significant player had elected to pay for the publication, and had asked Galileo to offer arguments for both theories - at the time, neither could be disproven - and Galileo writes the book, only instead of addressing his patron as Pope Simpleton, it's Doge Droolsalot, or King Cuckold, or Baron Ballsniffer.

What happens to Galileo for thumbing his nose at established authority because they wanted him to put his ego aside and present two competing theories instead of arguing, sans actual evidence, that one was absolutely right, simply because he came up with it?

If your answer is "Galileo gets off scot-free", congratulations, you probably would get killed by the first minor noble you wandered across, were you a feudal peasant, for doing something so uppity as looking directly at them, or speaking without having been asked a direct question.




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