/gamergatehq/ - #GamerGate Headquarters

>>312947

Please remember that to put findings into actionable archives that can be references in emails, in addition to including where to send the emails to.

>>312952

I'm a graphic artist so I can do something.

Just put info on this thread or send me a DM on twitter https://twitter.com/D1996Mr

Does /feg/ have a list of the confirmed known changes to FE:if?

Like changes to names would be great.

>>312956

I can find a list of changes and this isn't just FE or NA its localization in gen.

Aqua is now Azura

Kamui is now Corrin

Suzukaze is now Kaze

Mozume is now Mozu

Ryouma is now Ryoma

Marx is now Xander

Leon is now Leo

Elfie is now Effie

Kazahana is now Hana

Tsubaki is now I shit you not Subaki

Zero is now Niles

Luna is now Selena

Rinka is now Rinkah

Aqua's song got cucked hard its lyrics were about a prophecy that the MC follows a part of when he choses a side.

That's what I've gathered.

>>312963

Treehouse are tards that's why.

Thank you anons for working on this. Good luck in your digs.

>>312967

It'll be hard but I think we can pull it off.

>>312958

>Marx is now Xander

>Leon is now Leo

But why? Those weren't even Nip names.

In any event, I've been out of the loop for a while. How has Fates been fucked?

>>313004

We don't know the full damage but were guessing by the retarded changes nothing good.

>>313008

I swear to god, I will go full fucking autist if they manage to fuck this up for me. I was excited for this game.

>>313009

Treehouse is full of shit and this Op was made to stop them and other localizations cause Treehouse let 8-4kids fuck XenoBlade X

>>312958

Thank you for that. All name changes are stupid as fuck apart from Ryouma to Ryoma. As the u is just a hold over from Hepburn romanization to show the elongated vowel.

>>313016

Treehouse just didn't try.

>>313017

It's not that they didn't try, they are overally simplyfing character names so baka gaijin can remember or some shit. They are treating their audience like idiots who think they can't handle a long name like Suzukaze or Mozume.

The thing that annoys me the most is that these character in not-japan and now they are trying to make character less japanese sounding. It's literally ruining a theme of the game.

They think their audience can't even handle a tsu sound.

>>312963

Localization companies usually get paid by the amount of work they do. So if they change a name for a bullshit reason, they get paid. The SJW bullshit in this game is not good, but it's not the only problem with localization.

>>312947

Do we have a way to rile people from 2ch?

Can we get support from people in good terms with GG like Mark Kern? Maybe Total Biscuit? Until Sterling makes him flip-flop.

>>312958

Most of those are just retarded, but:

>Ryouma is now Ryoma

Romanization of long vowels has always been a clusterfuck.

>Rinka is now Rinkah

I mean… that's pointless and stupid purification of japanese origins, but it's not changing the way the name is pronounced at least.

>>313048

You don't get it.

Localization companies get money by changing stuff. It doesn't matter how inane the change is, if they can change it, they get paid.

Gaming localization is the car repair of the gaming industry: You tell them to localize a game and you end changing your whole engine because some fuck thought that your engine was problematic.

>>313056

posting Demo's vid

>>313009

This is why I'm not excited for much of anything these days anymore.

I was excited for Starbound, and we all know how that turned out.

I was excited for Mighty Number Nine, and then Dina happened.

Against my better judgement, I'm getting excited for XCOM 2. I just hope that it turns out okay.

Ok Guys here is what thinking I'm going to make a info graph about why localization needs to stop and why translation needs to be the norm write stuff and show me more stuff so I can start and I'll show you my progress. https://twitter.com/D1996Mr

http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/11/blade-soul-censorship-discussions-e-mail-campaigns-get-censored-by-mods/

http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/11/blade-soul-censored-by-localization-team-to-make-it-more-welcoming/

>>313073

fucking 8-4kids

Found the kotaku article

https://archive.is/a7MeF

Alexander O Smith is (or was, his official resume shows he, thankfully, hasn't done a video game in years, but he's still content to ruin books) a VERY prominent translator. Everything he's done in the past is suspect.

>>313075

http://amielleon.dreamwidth.org/213760.html

>>313084

I know but how they've been fucking themselves over the past year feels like they've sabotaging themselves like seriously some of the choices they've made.

>>313086

I'd like to see.

>>313087

See what?

I don't have the European version so I can't make detailed comparisons on everything.

I would like to know if the horribly engrish "Dance and Rhythm and Loyers" shirt was changed, or they decided adding black face was more important.

>>313088

Sorry I thought you had it.

>>312947

If you don't like the localization the answer is simple

DON'T BUY THIS SHIT

These games are incredibly niche, they simply can't afford most of its potential userbase abandoning them

And sjw sure as fuck wont be buying this shit to compensate for lost sales

>>313097

This is such a bullshit excuse and you know it.

>>313097

The problem with that is that it gives the Jap devs the idea that their games just arent selling due to the nicheness not because localization fucked it up.

And the American branches are just going to cover for them cause their job to be parasitic middlemen as well.

Any mass boycott also needs to be coupled with direct messaging to the Japanese developers/producers as to why its happening.

>>313100

Nice, no arguments, get the fuck out of here faggot

>>313101

>it gives the Jap devs the idea that their games just arent selling due to the nicheness not because localization fucked it up

Doubt it, jap devs aren't oblivious to whats happening in the west anymore, most of them are making changes to their games because they noticed which trends are real and which were fake

>Any mass boycott also needs to be coupled with direct messaging to the Japanese developers/producers as to why its happening.

Yep

>>313104

You are saying don't like it don't buy and that's a bullshit excuse not buying doesn't solve shit the cunts are still going to keep at it exposure is the biggest weakness they have and by exposing this shit is how you stop this being being aware that this stuff goes down will put an end to it.

>>313108

>not buying doesn't solve shit the cunts are still going to keep at it

>going to keep at it

>selling jack shit

>cucked western distributor going bankrupt

>somehow "going to keep at it"

Are you retarded?

>exposure is the biggest weakness

Nigger we just had over a year of exposure and it didn't do shit

>>313113

Normal fags are still going to buy it even we on 8chan don't buy it people who don't know any better will spreading info will help.

we haven't really tackled localization in full at all or done a massive Op such as this one before.

We need digging badly.

Well guys https://archive.is/dWwYm

Nintendo yes!

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/41814/fire-emblem-fates-removes-controversial-support-conversation-in-western-regions

https://archive.is/dWwYm

Those fucking cuckolds

>>313146

Treehouse and NoA need to fuck off.

>>313146

http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa

>>313086

>>313086

this reminds me of what they did in inazuma eleven's games

>jp version: ryou miyasaka, male track and field athlete you can recruit for your soccer team

>eur version: name is either "miles" or "milly", gender is flipped

>many other male characters are suddenly girls for no good reason

>the school delinquent character is suddenly russian

localization = bastardization

So what channels of communication will we have to go down to let people know?

I imagine it would be hassle to send postal tubes straight to Japan, or any post for that matter.

Will the time to spring this be when Fates comes out?

>>313178

Feb 19th

>>313208

about that https://twitter.com/mombot/status/690132906279321600

>>313209

So literally only one person in the company stands by the censorship?

Am I understanding this right?

>>313214

its an SJW who is causing drama more people in that FE base are waking up to the bullshit but are afraid to speak out.

>>312947

I feel like I'm having a stroke or something because I could barely make any sense of that.

>>313215

So could we use that?

"Don't buy Fates because ____ likes it", or just present the issues as are, and let the SJW put her trotter in it?

>>313218

Sorry I made the thread in a rush next thread's OP will be cleaner.

>>313220

clear up bullshit like the soleil shit and expose Treehouse's fuck ups cause we know they'll have fuck ups.

>>313222

>clear up bullshit like the soleil shit and expose Treehouse's fuck ups cause we know they'll have fuck ups.

Cool.

http://nichegamer.com/2015/07/the-story-behind-fire-emblem-fates-completely-falsified-gay-conversion/

This article explains everything about how the "gay conversion" is bullshit.

>>313223

yep spread this around.

>>313225

Gaijinhunter also did a video (who, in addition to making Monster Hunter tutorials is also a professional translator who works on the Kingdom Hearts series so he's absolutely qualified), in case normalfags think Nichegamer isn't reliable (wwwww).

>>313226

and from /v/

I just had a thought re: Operation Torrential Downpour and the possible letter to Nintendo of Japan.

I know for a fact that Tatsumi Kimishima, the current global president of Nintendo, used to work as the President of Nintendo of America. It stands to reason, then, that he might have connections (and possibly some tangible authority) to the American offices from his place in Japan. Furthermore, because he worked at Nintendo of America, he might know English.

What I'm trying to imply is that we might want to send our letter, English or otherwise, to the head honcho himself. If cuckchan at its most disorganized can send a postcard to Iwata back in 2014 PANIC, this should be no problem.

But those are just my two cents and this could be a bad idea. Passing it along just in case. Discuss.

>>313208

I sent my tube to NoA, but having said I'll be importing until they get their shit together, I can't really send one to NoJ ("Slap your subsidary so I can buy from them instead of you" is likely not very compeling)

Everyone else should end a letter though.

>>313227

From what I know about complaining to American companies, the top top head is a bad idea due to how full his schedule is and how people tend to go to him, making his letter box pretty full. You want a relevant VP instead.

>>313228

Anything to NOA will get binned, but the idea is to send SO much they know they've fucked up.

Sending to Japn is to get them to fix shit.

But in either case, show your anger. It's just that with Japan you can show your disappointment in them more.

>>313230

Highjacking the Fates Hashtag is a must on Feb 19th

>>313230

Happy people don't send 8 (9 if we count the picture of my Club Nintendo stuff) page letters saying why they aren't buying from you until you get your shit together, so I think I conveyed that pretty well.

>>313232

We need to show NA we aren't fucking around and call them out HARD on what they've been doing to not only Fates but a lot of their games the past few years.

>>313212

>showing the character doesn't want to be gay

That still makes it sound like a gay conversion story. A better way to phrase it would probably be to say she fell in love with who she thought was a woman, but stayed in love when she found out "she" was a man. The end of the story posted in the pics seems to indicate that she still prefers women overall.

>>313234

Japan is just weird this stuff won't make sense to an outsider who isn't aware of the trends they have.

>>313231

And now. Some people have pre-ordered it for the 19th.

We have a chance to make them cancel it.

Imagine Ninty's face as they "lose money" before the game is even out.

>>313232

To NA or Japan? Both is good.

To each their own as well.

If you're good at showing how angry you are, get angry!

If you're good at showing how disappointed you are, get disappointed!

Even logically showing why what their doing is bad and unnecessary is fine if you are good at that.

They are you're words. Don't change them for anyone.

>>313237

I can't wait to make NoA lose money and also NoA is pulling an amiibo shortage with the Fates SE in the west.

>>313237

NoA. As I mentioned before I can't really think of a way to write a letter to NCL that doesn't boil down to

>I'm buying from you because your subsidiary is ass. Please do something about the subsidiary so I don't need to buy directly from you anymore

Even with saying I'll buy used and warn English Only Peasants away I don't think I can make it sound convincing.

https://twitter.com/jobsatnintendo/status/690004098477920256

>>313237

I'd suggest to try and push discussion about this on gaming forums – just try to conceal your power levels as best you can so you don't end up looking like a ranting idiot.

>>313250

Yep

We need more focus on how most of the games media is pushing the false idea that this is some sort of gay conversion drugging thing that's being changed.

This should be a two pronged attacked. First is to raise awareness and let Nintendo know this is bullshit. Second should be to let everyone know the games media is not doing their jobs to keep us properly informed and they're probably colluding and being shit heads in whatever GJP successor they're using.

>>313254

This

>>313256

kek

>>313257

We can see about that in the future

I've got a good idea for something to get people going, but I need cool, original things Nintendo did in the 90s and 00s and I need examples of them memeing shit up in the 2010s.

Good things are like "do a barrel roll" and bad things are like the doge localization >>312948

>>313267

Like the 90s adds they did?

>>313268

Anything I can turn into an image to remind people of. But yes, those funky ads and crazy shit they used to do is perfect.

>>313270

Get more people into this thread we need to kill treehouse fast.

>>313273

These are a help. thanks. I need some of modern nintendo games with shitty memes and bullshit localization. It's surprisingly hard to find, no one catalogs this stuff well.

>>313274

look up the thread for some examples I'll try looking for some.

>>313273

Nintendo really needs to be publicly embarrassed again so they can stop with the kid-first attitude in America like they did during the mid 90's. That's one of the reasons why I will always love and respect Sega of America; they forced Nintendo to adapt by directly challenging them while Sony and Microsoft just continue to heap praise on them as they lose market share with their losing strategy of kids/families and fuck everyone else.

I actually got what I need now, it gets the point across. I have a rough draft done. I'm going to sleep on it and refine it a bit tomorrow.

I just want to verify what we're going to have for a call to action. I think we're writing to NoJ and NoA, right? I need the right address to write to for both. And I think it's a good idea to get people upset on social media too, get them pointing at NoA twitter and such.

If I puss out or something I'll release the SVG for others to work with. I might even do that regardless.

>>313281

Just gonna say too I don't want me working on something to stop someone else from making things. As long as we're coordinated and not contradicting each other we can work together and have multiple things going.

>>313285

Yep I'm working info graphics as long as we all are coordinated it'll be fine

>>313287

I appreciate the help m80 but these aren't useful because they're not published by NoA. It needs to be stuff done by NoA. This is done by SOFEL.

>>313084

If you want my opinion, it's a little of both. More on that in a minute. I'm gonna pull a Frank Zappa.

>>313080

>>313084

Now, about the pic from >313080. I'm pulling a Frank Zappa.

Let's roll the clocks back to the video game crash of 1982/1983. Remember the glorious memories of video games(which really weren't all that great. And I loved those eras). But one thing that did happen during the 80's and 90's was that some video games of an unusual or experimental nature were developed and released. Now, take a look at the executives who approved/greenlit those video games. Who were the executives during those times? Not hip young guys. These were cigar chomping old guys at NoJ who looked at the product and said, " I don't know. Who know what is. Sell it to the baka no gaijin. If it sells, sugoi desu ne. Beri guudo."

We were better off with those guys than the "hip young executives" who are making the decisions of what people should see and play in the market place. The young guys are more conservative, and more dangerous to the video game industry than the old guys with the cigars ever were.

And do you know how these young guys get in there? How do people like Alison Rapp and other members of the Nintendo Treehouse get in there? How do people like Tim Browne of Ubisoft, or Christian Svennson of Capcom(now laid off) get in there? The old guy in Japan says, "SAA, chansu desu yo. We went and sold many million units to the gaijin. I don't know what product is. But we must do more. I need advice in American branch. Let's get American konpyuuta man here.". So they hire a young computer nerd, or a faux geek chic woman there. And they're not going to trust them with anything at NoA other than to pick up the coffee, and bring the mail in and out. They start there. " Well, they carried the coffee 5 times on time. We can trust him. Let's give him/her a REAL job. So they become a marketing team member. Or a public relations person.

From there, as they're moving up and up and up, Alison Rapp has her feet on the executive chair or equivalent in structure. And she says, "We can't take a chance on this. Because it's not what young people, including young women want to see. And I should know, because misandry doesn't exist.". And they have that attitude.

And if you get rid of the SJWs and beta males, and get back to the days of " who knows. Take a chance", that entrepreneurial spirit where even if you don't like or understand what the video game coming through the door is; the person who's in the executive chair may not be the final arbiter of taste of the entire population.

>>313326

keep going anon.

>>313327

I think he's sort of right but for the wrong reasons. Japanese games and Western games have different objectives. Japanese games tend to put the game first and try and make it fun, enjoyable, challenging, etc.

Western developers try and make a game addicting more than any thing else, by using psychological tricks (Skinner's Box, gamification, etc). Just note it wasn't always like this. We saw the start of it in the 90s but a lot of Western developers just wanted to make fun games too. But that started to fall apart in the 00s and now in the 10s it's basically gone.

In the past when you had these funky video games and weird ads, you had Japanese influence just wanting to be weird, quirky, and fun. They wanted to make something that just made you smile and be happy.

But Western developers (not all of them, but the major ones) gained more and more control as the market recovered from the crash in the early 80s. And as they did, they realised it was was far more profitable to make a game that plays to psychological needs than it make something with the sole purpose of being fun and entertaining. This has come to a head in the 2010s with games like League of Legends, achievements everywhere, SJWs wanting to gamify everything, etc.

These old Japanese influenced games in the 90s and 80s, they were there to be silly and fun. They took risks because they wanted to be unique. Take a look at Japanese culture right now, it's filled with a lot of weird stuff, because they want to be fun and take risks. Now look at American games, specially mobile. It's all designed to be addicting as fuck first. Just look at JPOP stuff like Pon Pon Pon.

Personal story, I have an old friend. I knew him before LoL started. Back then, we played all sorts of different games. Once he got on LoL, he was lost. His computer broke a few weeks ago and he couldn't play LoL, we ended up playing Splatoon a ton. We both had an absolute ton of fun. But you know what happened? After his computer was fixed, he jumped right back to LoL even though he doesn't like it that much. In fact, our first few conversations ended up with him bitching about the team mates and the game. But he still chooses that over Splatoon.

Because LoL is designed to play all sorts of psychological tricks on you. It makes you feel good even if you fuck up because you can blame a team mate. If you suck, you can get carried by someone and then say you were the reason you won the game. You're constantly grinding for new characters that are OP on release. You also grind for runes and all that other shit. And don't get me started on ranked mode, it's the perfect combination of "you're so close, play some more and get to the next league!" and what I mentioned about the game absolving the player from responsibility by letting them blame failures on others and their failures that turn into victories because of others on themselves.

And these Western people, they're business minded. They don't want to take risks. They go

>why use our own writing when there's all these people on the internet who love those doge meme?

>we're guaranteed people will like the doge meme if we use it but we have no guarantee if we are original

and that's what happens. You end up with doge memes in your games because Westerners are afraid to take chances and those SJWs, who lack any sort of creativity and are basically the losers of the internet, just flat out can't make anything cool that normal people like on a scale that Nintendo wants.

I'll work on that image I'm working on today and hopefully get it done. I'm counting on everyone to help spread it though.

>>313348

Interesting. I like where you're going with this

>>313287

Actually the game features inside trading, which is a crime instead of a gamble

>>313406

>Laffo

Daily reminder sjws can't do anything right

>>313406

>13 year old boob slider

>objectively terrible

but i thought they liked pedophiles?

oh it's all so very confusing

>>313586

They only support pedos when it involves real children.

>>313229

Though I've heard, from reading blogs by gaijin who work in Japan, that "going over people's heads" is the way things are done there. For instance, even if that asshole Kenta keeps whistling at his desk, it's preferred that you go to the office manager, who goes to his boss, who goes to his boss, who eventually sends a mass email saying "please don't whistle at your desk, it annoys your coworkers".

So going right to the top may not actually be a bad thing.

Japanese games are bad anyway.

>>313663

I'll give you an a A for effort.

>>313666

Name one good game from Japan. I bet you can't.

>>313672

>MGS3

>good game

choose one

>>313673

Confirmed for shit taste but nice of you to come here to try and derail instead of /v/.

>>313675

The only good video game is Depression Quest by Zoe Quinn.

>>313676

Ok nigger you made me laugh.

>>313677

Don't say "nigger" please.

Also I was not joking.

>>313678

It's ok SJW, some day you will make a good game. I suggest not spending your day writing tweets and learning something important. But it's probably hard when you don't believe in something that encourages you to improve yourself and instead encourages you to do nothing and blame the world for why nothing good happens to you.

>>313678

I know you are trolling, but you made me chuckle so…

>you

>>/oven/

Well guys I know were on the right track now shills are coming.

>>313712

We highjack the Fates#tag when the time comes and show all the fuck ups

>>313714

https://web.archive.org/web/20160122042029/https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/690264632066355200

Any anons here wanna create ocs and graphs for the operation

>>313724

sure

>>313724

I'm working on something but I want to make it look pretty good. Plus I need to work on getting better at infographics. Those this is more like a collage. But we need lots of stuff to get ready for when the time comes. Any little thing helps, even just screenshots of shitty changes done for the sake of "localization" with #optorrentialdownpour on them and some little phrase like

>stop mutilating Japanese games

>>313614

Boycotts are useless we are already not buying censored shit you moron

Telling normalfags why its shit an informal boycott is more effective

>>313749

This the best course of action.

>>313071

>>313072

"Keeping the problematic content in there with the intent of preserving the creator’s original vision is misguided, because the creator presumably didn’t intend for the audience to feel uncomfortable or offended. The original vision is better served by making adjustments so the new audience appreciates the work on (as closely as possible) the same terms as the original audience."

Here it is:

http://archive.is/a7MeF

>>313726

>>313725

Can't wait to see what you guys make

>>313772

Anyway we can use this and >>313146

>>313248

>>313406

>>313715

These as weapons as well

Reposting this from /v/

Since this was posted 3 days ago I'm not sure if I'm slow on the ball with this, probably am, but re: Alison Rapp - she's mocking us.

https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/690412765794664448

https://tweetsave.com/alisonrapp/status/690412765794664448

https://archive.is/qPlnk

https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/690412933529092096

https://tweetsave.com/alisonrapp/status/690412933529092096

https://archive.is/JTYEa

https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/690413142866788353

https://tweetsave.com/alisonrapp/status/690413142866788353

https://archive.is/BfXug

Make of this as you will.

To further cede in support of your point, please read >>313326

>>313681

There is no such thing as an "SJW". It's just a made up term that internet reactionaries invented to disparage anyone who doesn't share their nutty beliefs.

>>313676

>>313678

>>313799

You're entertaining, I shall keep you as a pet.

Do a funny dance my little troll.

>>313790

More ammo for OCs and graphs

>>313790

Mah nigga

>>313838

>>313839

Really?

>>313838

Mods remember to sticky when Feb 19 rolls in

Guise I made my very first Twitter account. And I'm apparently a gook. What do? I want to help Gamergate.

>>313869

Tell us about localization in Korea and how SJWs fuck it up there and maybe we can stop it from raping Japan and NA.

>>313877

A Korean helping to stop Japan from being raped? How delightfully ironic.

checking in

I'm an MSpaint fag but I can still put together really simple infographics. Liking what people have already gathered. Excited for this. Getting info seen by the wider weeb and gamer crowd is important.

>>313886

Yep and thanks.

>>313885

Were all going to get rapped if we don't stop these cunts.

>>313274

>>313276

Style Savvy/Girl's Mode changes:

https://archive.is/fRiiQ

https://archive.is/gTXjx#selection-997.0-997.62

https://archive.is/hWCke#selection-1395.100-1395.171

You might want to check out Censored Gaming (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFItIX8SIs4zqhJCHpbeV1A/featured) or even try asking them about Nintendo censorship (check their About page) if you want.

http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showforum=286 go here and in calm manner without GG, talk about the issues on localizations redpill them in a subtle manner about what we've done in in this thread.

https://archive.is/tflyy

>>313899

Were all fucked if we don't stop this shit.

>>313079

This is a different presentation but basically the same thing: twvideo01.ubm-us.net/o1/vault/gdc06/slides/S1575i1.ppt

https://archive.is/jKhEE

Englobe (now known as Geogrify) official website here: http://englobe.com/

https://archive.is/Uj2mv

To those making Ocs and graphs don't worry you have till February 19 so take all the time you need

>>313934

Been a fan of this series since the gba

I love this series so much

Hell this OP alone got me back into gamergate

>>313936

SJW ruin everything.

>>313936

The problem is they think this is gay conversion therapy, when it's not. It's just a case of someone seeing someone as the opposite sex and having it create problems in their life.

Ultimately, it comes from a huge cultural mis-understanding because SJWs think their ideas on sexuality in culture are the defacto standard and any other culture that has different views on homosexuality is wrong. It also doesn't help that Japan's basic view on homosexuality is it's something some people do but you still usually get a wife (a 3dpd one) even if you do stuff with guys. To them it's something you do, not an identity. And SJWs are either completely ignorant of it or they hate the fact that their sexuality isn't some defining trait of someone.

>>313938

SJWs have no idea how Japan works at all they don't get that sex is actually promoted in everything cause they want people to have kids in Japan due to population decline.

>>313940

Sjws dont want people to have kids

Hell birthrates are starting to decline in the west

Yo anons, did any of you see this?

https://www.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/42k4k4/operation_no_gaming_censorship_name_pending/

I think it's a great idea to merge with this shit.

>>313944

Cause we are getting Betas and leg beards more and more and they don't get sex.

Daily Reminder

Sjws and those want to censor games don't play them

Also don't forget to send emails I guess on febuary 19

>>313968

Were going to do a massive drop of emails. OC and high jacking the Fates tag.

>>313984

Great can't wait to see more

>>313895

The removal of the good-bye scene is somewhat reasonable: It slows the game down for no value.

Rest are cancer.

>>313885

It's well established that comfort women were a myth. What actually happened is Korea is the Chons saw an influx of men who were either single or nowhere near their wives then took advantage of new demand, either selling their daughters to brothels or the Chons kidnapping Chon women to sell to Chon owned brothels. There is no evidence to support the narrative that it was the "occupiers" (who modernized the peninsula competently, preventing anything like the Maoist famines China got when they attempted it) kidnapping women.

re post from v:

https://archive.is/z0yee

FE Fates won't have the petting minigame in the US version.

>>314083

nothing says smart consumer like being happy about optional content getting cut from games.

>>314083

>>314096

This does seem to originate from shitaku so does anyone have another source?

>>314107

https://archive.is/rchNB

You can guess who's behind of this one

>>314109

Yeah, I would wait until someone else "confirms" this.

I may be just grasping at straws but this seems like bullshit or something.

I really hope that is the case

The game is coming out in less than a month so someone is going to have to confirm this soon anyways.

The amount of people who are ok with is disturbing either way.

>>314116

>>314116

Yeah it is

I mean on google+ Facebook and other fire emblem communities

I've seen a lot of fans sadden and angry by it But a few are actually happy to praising it and saying those who are sad to suck it up or a pedo

>>314083

What's wrong anons? Nintendo is only treating you exactly the way you ask to be treated.

Ok Guys we need to be on the ball game.

>>314138

I was ready to get the graphics into overdrive

NoA will be sending interns to shill soon.

>>314140

>suggest action

There's no point. Gamergate collectively decided that fighting back makes them just as bad as SJWs.

well boys time for war is FEB 19th.

>>314153

See, here's your problem. You don't realize that you've already lost. Free speech is dead. Outrage culture is the norm. Social Justice is the norm. The world has changed, and you failed to adapt.

The buck don't stop nor do shills

>>314186

Social justice is the norm. Corruption and outrage are the dominant weapons now. Your enemies are using machine guns while you're still using sticks and stones because of your ridiculous misguided principles.

So, if I were to write to NoJ, is there anyone around who can translate that shit into moon? I'm going to start learning, but I don't feel like spending the international shipping fee then end up sounding like a fucking retard.

>>314196

You know what? You're right. Gonna put my money where my mouth is.

>$370 for games/3ds.

You know what, I'll start with the 3ds import.

After my paycheck clears I can get the game.

>>314201

https://twitter.com/D1996Mr need help spreading this shit mate.

https://youtu.be/BN_5LzLoVss

Sakurai gives his two cents on the issue

>>314142

Nice try ghazi

>>314207

https://archive.is/k05zF

Wrong link

>>314189

Problem is we have the numbers you sjws don't

Infact you turn more people against you day by day

>>314207

>>314210

nice gaffe

is there a reason in particular as to why you posted the archive instead of direct link?

I've found that the vast majority of people who buy censored games are completely clueless about the censorship, and of those people, easily half are against it, with a large portion regretting the purchase when they find out. I think a large part of what we need to do if we want to oust censorship is put together a reliable source for information on localization censorship. A deepfreeze for localization, essentially, or maybe a wiki.

If we do this, though, I think we should take care to make sure it is as unpoliticized as possible( for a variety of obvious reasons). That means no minimizing/maximizing of censorship(THIS IS REALLY BAD/NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL BECAUSE ___), no preferential treatment(THIS IS DEPRAVED BULLSHIT THOUGH BECAUSE (LOLISHIT, FURRYSHIT, FAGGOTSHIT,ETC)), etc. Completely objective statement of the facts. This is what got censored in X game, this is what could be censorship in X game, these are the neutral localization changes in X game. This makes it much harder to attack or smear as a propaganda tool.

If such a resource gets a lot of traffic, it will make these localization teams think twice. Half the reason they're doing the shit they do is because they know they can get away with it. Having an easily accessible source of information will take that safety away from them. They censor their shit in a market that knows that it's censored, it will fail hard.

I'd love to be the one to make this, but I don't have a lick of web design experience and it's been a decade since I've edited any wiki anywhere, and we don't have time to wait for a pleb like me to learn all this shit. Can anyone else take this on?

>>314215

and yes, I know, hurr hurr ideas guy. It's a good idea though, fucking do it please.

>>314215

theres a youtube channel doing just this

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFItIX8SIs4zqhJCHpbeV1A

>>314215

>I've found that the vast majority of people who buy censored games are completely clueless about the censorship, and of those people, easily half are against it, with a large portion regretting the purchase when they find out.

We have reliable sources. We just need to circulate them more often. A wiki as another central source is an excellent idea, though.

btw

https://twitter.com/Treasuresword/status/692431978801565698

Pass it around, folks. I try not to twit often, but this is seriously important.

>>314219

It's run by one guy and suffers the limitations of being run by one guy(not always completely accurate, subject to bias, doesn't document all or even half of the censorship that goes on) and video format isn't the most easily accessible. I want a resource that can easily give you the censorship breakdown in an easily accessible format on any game with just a search.

>>314198

>not just cracking your DS so you can play GRORIOUS nip games

do you even weeb bro?

>>314244

I want to fuck Morgan

>>314245

that's Robin.

>>313053

>"I left game localization after Twilight Princess because the changes left plot holes in the story, particularly near the end."

>"And they were changes justified for the sole purpose of having something extra on the audit to bill NoA."

Has anyone been able to confirm what these plot holes/changes from the Japanese version are?

While this post sounds pretty real, it would give more evidence as to whether it's true or not.

Remember everybody. Trust but verify

>>312958

Benoit is now Benny as well.

>>314252

It should be easy to verify by the credits. Just find with NoA localization staff isn't listed in the credits after TP.

That makes me very doubtful this image isn't just made up, as you could easily narrow the person down pretty quickly, especially if you were NoA (I doubt many localization employees resigned from NoA in 2006/early 2007). If he wanted to be known he would do it much more publicly.

>>314260

can we get a full list of name changes here?

I absolutely HATE Reggie Fils-Aime

>>314279

Zero -> Niles

Eponne -> Nina

Kamui -> Corrin

Belka -> Beruka (who the fuck thought this one was a good idea?)

Luna -> Selena (Luna is Severa, Cordielia's daughter from fire emblem awakening, and Severa's original name in awakening was Selena.)

Marx- Xander

Lazward -> Laslow

Joker -> Jakob

Tsukuyomi -> Hayato

Syalla -> Rhajat (This change is soooooo fucking stupid. Syalla is an anagram of Tharja's name in the Jap version of Awakening. Syalla is literally Tharja 2.0 so this change is actually retarded.)

Nishiki -> Kaden

Matoi -> Celdori

Leon -> Leo

Kazahana -> Hana

Not sure If I missed any

>>314279

Zero -> Niles

Eponne -> Nina

Kamui -> Corrin

Belka -> Beruka (who the fuck thought this one was a good idea?)

Luna -> Selena (Luna is Severa, Cordielia's daughter from fire emblem awakening, and Severa's original name in awakening was Selena.)

Marx- Xander

Lazward -> Laslow

Joker -> Jakob

Tsukuyomi -> Hayato

Syalla -> Rhajat (This change is soooooo fucking stupid. Syalla is an anagram of Tharja's name in the Jap version of Awakening. Syalla is literally Tharja 2.0 so this change is actually retarded.)

Nishiki -> Kaden

Matoi -> Celdori

Leon -> Leo

Kazahana -> Hana

Not sure If I missed any

Hotwheels pls fix the site already

February is at the door! Is somebody working on an infographic? Is it possible to have a look?

If you want to get normies involved and you want them to understand why it's important to them, you'll need to explain what localization is. Should we include examples from other mediums?

>>314318

Yes.

>>314318

Yes.

>>314318

KIA has an email campaign as well. I sent emails for them to add to the numbers.

Hopefully someone can put together an infographic with email addresses and archived links in a handy to spread fashion

>>314212

It was the only link I was given

It was posted on /v/

>>314353

Fuck knows. If I didn't love Atlus games so much, I'd get tumblr up in a tizzy over how it was "whitewashing" and "blackface" and all other kinds of trigger words to show that yankifying things is wrong.

Subtle changes to more familiar things is okay, explaining foreign concepts is best (respect other cultures, m'kay?), whitewashing an entire game is straight-up racism.

>>312947

I know the day of release will have a big impact, however you want people to be able to cancel their preorders or day one buyers with no preorders to think it over, wouldn't it be smarter to attack a little earlier, but longer?

Also interesting thing to talk about, there's hacks to downgrade your 3DS OS ver, which then you can run flash carts in which, there's like 2 Fire Emblems Fates translations available

>>314325

what is the email address(es) for Nintendo? I'm ready to send some.

>>314389

I'm in a lot of windows. Imma start linking the things I remember. If ANYONE has any instances they wanna offer, we need to throw them here, or DM >>312954

We get centered, we can work. We can work, we can start winning this shit, step by step.

>>314305

>Syalla -> Rhajat (This change is soooooo fucking stupid. Syalla is an anagram of Tharja's name in the Jap version of Awakening. Syalla is literally Tharja 2.0 so this change is actually retarded.)

Rhajat is an anagram for Tharja itself.

>>314392

>Recall that Idea Factory International, not many months afterward, took ANOTHER NISA-butchered title and announced the Steam port, with all content intact. IFI is the western branch of Idea Factory, who own and operates Compile Heart. Compile Heart published Agarest War, Mugen Souls, and Monster Monpiece.

Not to nitpick, but MonMon for PS Vita was released and censored by IFI themselves, not NISA. They turned around and decided to keep the Steam port uncensored due to backlash by fans.

I'm not sure what to make of it, since IFI said they'll avoid releasing titles they feel might need censorship to be brought over here. I got DOAX3 vibes from that shit.

>>314408

I stand corrected. I'll look more thoroughly at NISA's project connections later when i get a bit more time on my hands.

As for what to make of their censoring stance, they're referencing titles like Moe Chronicles and Moe Crystals, both spiritual sequels to Monster Monpiece. And both lewd as all hell—to a degree that the ESRB & PEGI would likely not let it fly without an AO rating. It's depressing that IFI has to take that stance, but I'm somewhat glad that they have since it's proof and support we desperately need that there are developers unwilling to compromise their ideals and ethics for a pack of whiny sjws.

>>314425

Nice mind if I use this on twitter?

>>314428

Keep going anon.

>>314427

Yeah if it's good let it rip. The address is

>>314428

>>314430

God I love this site works again. I was worried my infograph was cluttered but I thought that they don't need to read everything to get the point.

Infographs are super important. Read this and learn how to make them. Look up good guides too. There are good guides for this on the internet. And knowing how to make infographs is a valuable skill you can use in a variety of places besides gamergate.

>>314431

>God I love this site works again

Me too.

>>314428

Nintendo is but one company that a lot of serious gamers shy away from due to shit like this, lack of mature titles and lesser hardware (ignore the bait)

Anyways, a lot of us are relying on people in the know to put the shit together so the rest can email and spread it.

It comes down to efficiency, I know nothing about Nintendo or Indie games but I will email when it is time.

>>314430

>>314428

We need to screen cap these two post so we can spread them around

I'm boy phone so I can't do it

This leader has good ideas

>>314434

I have a pretty good feeling Fates won't sell as well as Awakening. There's a fan translation going on, right? Like, 3DS piracy is right around the corner. Why would you buy this game when you can get a decent fan translation later? Should we maybe promote the fan translation if it exists?

>>314436

The issue is that the patch isn't perfect its much better then Treehouse's bullshit but its not near ready.

>>314437

You did good anon.

>>314437

They like your posts.

>>314402

Huh, I didn't notice that. Still Rhajat sounds more like some retarded Gypsie name and is totally unfitting for a yandere lesbian.

>>314466

How about flooding NoA fax machine with pages that are all black except a small grey text in comic sans which reads "stop censoring games"?

I saw this on the fire emblem threads on /v/ and thought it might be a good idea

>>314468

Only NoA fax line I know of is to legal, and sending that kind of thing directly to the legal departments is a really stupid idea.

>>314471

Huh, is that right? Well nevermind that idea then

>>314425

It isn't clear who Pterodactyl Princess is. Her name is covered in the twitter message

Another option that could be added with physical mail would be their phones. Apparently somewhere in their phone tree is an option to complain about a specific line in a video game (I'd need confirmation and the path to it though). I have no doubt it was intended for things like Mario Party's use of "spastic", but should work for memespeak shit.

>>314425

You can break this into about four to five posters on a concentrated effort to go with that theme ("They USED to be fun, and then SOCJUS Happened). It's probably better to do so, since this may be a long-haul fight and not to mention the eye has so many places to wander here because the info's all over the place. Breaking the poster down into smaller Before/After setup would concentrate the info and make it easier to consume on the part of the reader.

>>314428

>>314430

This is gold, m8. I'm on a shit schedule right now but I intend to step into the wilds of reddit and see about getting a movement on establishing some centralized point of info and intel dumping.

>>314428

>>314437

God speed anon

Rest now

https://plus.google.com/115227040107933083544/posts/bcRCQ3ypcB6

I feel like I'm alone on this at times

I don't personally know what's going on, but I heard:

"Plus, from what I gather on Serenesforest and other forums, Nintendo of Japan is in full DC mode. The "My Castle" Direct is now set to private. The subtitled video of it is still available for now."

Also IGN confirmed the everything about the "petting" scene is there, dialogue and all (well, dialogue is probably changed…) EXCEPT the petting itself

>>312947

NoJ just recently set the My Castle video for Fates on private. An anon from /v/ saved the video.

https://mega.nz/#!dgFAyLTY

https://db.tt/wmlCvDin

This can be a good thing… NoJ seems to have noticed the outrage. If we can get organized enough to drive the point home it might be able to do something.

>>314512

Wait really?

>>314513

Yes, I've never heard of NoJ reacting in such a way, or most Japanese developers.

>>314514

Where are you hearing this from though? I want source on this because im interested

>>314515

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oO7b-oWl2g

That's the original URL for the My Castle trailer for Japan

Here's a reupload:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IE2PAYh2U0

>>314515

From someone who goes to Serenesforest (A Fire Emblem fan site) and told me what's happening in another thread somewhere else.

From the same person, I heard people were spamming the comments from Nintendo's youtube account on videos that has the petting thing. Usually they'd just disable comments, but here they removed all videos relating to it, or that's what I was told

>>314518

*NoJ's youtube account

>>313280

Deja Vu! First game I beat without outside advice from friends of game mags since it was too damn obscure.

>>314519

Serenes' forums are just a cancerous shithole. There was a thread there a couple months back where people were just circlejerking about how much they hoped Camilla and Charlotte's outfits were censored, and that the "incest" was taken out The only real incest is if you marry your cousin, and how marrying any young-looking character (or the old guy, Gunter) should be taken out for being "creepy".

>>314529

Kamui canonically fucks his cousin.

I miss guys like Pepper who would show logic on that site.

>>314533

Christ it's bad.

>>314533

>Fans

>Wants to censor the game left and right

What the fuck happened to fandom?

>>314537

It died to SJWs.

>>314537

The first one I posted is my favourite because somebody whose favourite FE is 4 has a problem with incest in Fire Emblem. His favourite Fire Emblem is the one where the antichrist is created by brainwashing a woman into fucking her half-brother.

>>314539

The lack of self awareness

Why does this shit keep happening? Every time I load some random vid on YouTube, I keep seeing a FE: Fates ad. These assholes are desperate.

Why are both Alison Rapp, and Nintendo Treehouse still have a job? Why hasn't Reggie Fils-Aime fired all of these assholes?

Then again, the Japanese should have known better than to hire a French pizza jockey who's body fat is bigger than his brain.

>>314547

>Alison Rapp

I think she just does marketing, even if she is cunty.

>>314551

Exactly the problem, anon. If you're a marketing egghead, your job is to figure out how to sell a product to the chumps. Not push your personal politics.

Vid related. Start at Time index 0:34

>>314535

what the fuck is this shit

>

Name: Gabriel

Appearance: Young Big Boss from MGS with green hair

Personality: Similar to Big Boss' personality in MGS3, but with added uncertainty about his choice to remain loyal to Nohr. He always felt attracted to Camilla, but he's never open about these feelings, even after he learns the truth about his past. His feelings for her do show thru the fact that he sided with Nohr SOLELY to remain with her. A total gary stu at heart, he is constantly bothered by how people seem to constantly praising him, feeling he needs to earn the praise first. He lost his eye protecting Camilla from a rampaging horse, so she dotes on him as a result

Spouse:Camilla did the personality summary not tip you off

Asset: Magic BECAUSE DRAGONSTONES SON

Flaw: Defense

Alternate Class: Golden Kite Warrior

Birthday: January 23

Pretty much every Corrin after this is more of an OC than actually Corrin due to their backstories which I made up completely, but their abilities are very similar to his and they are being used in various files in Fates as Corrin so I don't care

>>314583

nice

Posting KiA thread here so people over here can check out the replies over there to my suggestions.

Poster of

>>314196

might want to take a look.

https://www.red%dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/43emkn/discussion_operation_torrential_downpour_and/

>>314599

Wow Kia is helpful saying this won't work.

>>314583

>>314599

>>314600

3DS is region locked. You're basically telling people to buy a game that they won't be able to play.

>>314602

You can crack the region lock right up the ass

Google it

>>312963

Luna is a recurring spell in the series. While it's easy to tell the difference in moon (spell is ルナ, girl is　ルーナ) it's impossible to reflect this in English. THAT change makes sense.

Why, when they realize that, they created a second Arthur for no reason is beyond me

>>314602

I kind of agree with this, regardless with how you can crack the region lock, you're still asking people to buy a game in a language they don't know

We have to make alternative strategies people can follow:

This is a great one:

https://twitter.com/cool_boy_mew/status/692177497950134273

Especially second tweet. Show off all your current gen games from Nintendo and threaten to drop entire support next-gen if they continue this shit (Of course, you have to have a good amount of games).

Sent to Nintendo by e-mail and to NoA and Bill Trinen's Twitter account (Should I send this to anyone else)

Another thing I've thought about. With the recent 3DS cracking, it's possible to go back in firmware version and use a flash cart again. Also there IS fan translations for the game already available I heard. Telling Nintendo that you were going to buy the game and that because of the censorship you've decided to pirate the game, that's a huge fuck you to their money

It would be good to have NoJ's e-mails and NoJ's Twitter accounts (and other employees if available) to send this stuff too. don't underestimate how lazy people are, sending a real life mail requires efforts and going places, so we need all the options we can have to encourage action

Im kinda glad torriental downpour is growing

>>314635

Should be cause we are doing are our best.

>>314633

This is a much better idea. Show them we're actually people who buy their stuff. Most of the people who are bitching probably won't even buy the game. It's a really good way to show Nintendo that you're a customer and you don't like what they're doing.

>>314635

Probably because the site is fixed now and we can get things done without much worries

>>313022

>>313056

>>313057

ALL OF MY HATE

It's Japanese media; with Japanese words and concepts; I can't even why "translators" are so fucking terrified of contextually-correct words that consumers of Japanese media would probably know.

…like tanuki.

A tanuki is not a raccoon (not even a red raccoon).

A tanuki is not a panda (they're not even related; pandas are an usid off-shoot).

A tanuki, however, is correctly called a raccoon-dog (a basal canid, essentially what dogs and cats looked like 40million years ago; a living fossil), but "raccoon-dog" is a mouthful, while there is a short, simple, contextually-correct term (which even matches mouth-flaps for the shit dub I won't listen to) for "tanuki": It's fucking "Tanuki"

Just. use. the. fucking. word. aaaagrgrgrg

Autists!

Why isn't this being advertised to the fags over at /v/? Shouln't we be having a Op Downpour thread over there as well?

>>314641

It is though, from all the fire emblem threads and nintendo threads, and its also posted on the Gamergate thread over there

>>313984

Source images?

>>314633

>We have to make alternative strategies people can follow:

Been cooking some of those, but the days are wearing on me so outside of actually learning how to use reddit, i'm taking a break and coming back fresh monday. Here's what little I've got so far

>I don't want to buy the game

Have they bought XBX? Bravely Default? Fatal Frame? THESE are things that can go directly into Torrential Downpour hashtag. (I agree with above anon in that we need a way more streamlined hashtag). The main attack, though, is the unnecessary edits, so ask folks to write simple messages (KISS METHOD) saying "I didn't know I bought a cut up product." or something simliar. Pictures included, routine just the same as those with FireEmblem.

OR they could take pics of refunds or cancelled preorders, same routine.

>But I haven't bought any of those games

Screencap an Amazon or Gamestop page of any of those games on sale/preorder (Especially Bravely Second and Fire Emblem Fates) and again, simple message: "Can I get these uncut, please? There's no law demanding censorship, here".

Anyone can get down on that, but it's also not as powerful since it's not showing that money has traded hands. But in a large quantity it'd be enough to disturb some higher ups and the investors.

That can all go with adjusted instructions for posters. If it's not Fire Emblem Fates, it should go under hashtag Torrential Downpour

There's also this pastebin made, that can be expanded to encompass all these ideas.

http://pastebin.com/ruXQRe46

>>314678

Good stuff. I'd help but I'm terribad with writing things that will engage as much people as possible

But yes, putting more strategies is the way to go, something for everyone as buying an imported game is a bit out of reach for some people. Basically, we want as much people to e-mail/participate

One good idea to say is that the most involved techniques (Import receipt, mailing a tube) makes the biggest impact of all, so if possible, to try as much as possible

As I linked, photographic your pile of games and sending it, plus threatening to drop all supports next gen (NX is supposed to be very soon) would be a good addition to that pile

Also "learning Reddit"? Is there a specific problem you have with reddit? I've been on KiA for a long time, so I could help if there's something you don't get. I imagine the problem you have is with Reddit's post formatting? It's simply just shit. There's test boards around you can use to test your formatting

>>314680

That reminds me, import-wise. I'd like to collect opinions on how merchant sites operate and deal with folks. Knowing where to point them to for consistent deals or returns on what you spend (like point systems that actually work) and things of that caliber.

>Is there a specific problem you have with reddit?

No, I've just never been on reddit outside of linking. I'd do like what I did when I first ran into 4chan (ie: actually fucking lurked), but I think time is just slightly of the essence. I think before FE is released in stores, I'd want us to have a working depository of information for quick public consumption. Getting that done means finding people capable and willing to put together a wiki or a hub or something, and people willing to help maintain and back it up.

Another, really big thing that should be done is shaking hands with 2ch and fan forums in Japan. Find out what they think, let them know we actually don't stand for this shit and need their help. If they get the message and don't dismiss us as faggots, that's going to be a massively huge help.

>>314682

Reddit is nothing special, and there's different rules (and general feeling) in different sub-reddits.

The biggest difference is the upvote/downvote, which is both a curse and a benefit … But more of a curse than anything.

Upvotes has a upvote/time rule. The more upvote is has in a certain time, the faster it goes to the default page (and the longer it stays)

So yeah, default page for all subs is the "Popular" submissions, which has been upvoted a lot.

Problem with this system is that a lot of people forgets to see the "new" submission tab, which sometimes has good stuff that's not getting mass upvoted for some reasons.

Then there the same problem with comments. The earliest your comment, the better chances it has to stay on top. Then there's the problem of bullshit jokes getting lots of upvotes, sometimes you'll love 'em, sometimes you'll hate 'em and rather see legit comments (Especially a problem for popular places like /r/AMA).

Then there's the downvoting of comments which is like a "I don't agree" button, and controversial opinions gets shut down and some places becomes an echo chamber. I don't believe it's that much of a problem over at KiA, been handling it better than other places.

If you want a general feel of what not to do at KiA, people really don't like rants of "what GG should've done", especially the ones that are very authoritarian and less an actual discussion of "what went wrong".

If you get downvoted at the beginning when you post something, don't get too discouraged, I think there's a bot or people downvoting some stuff, but it gets better if you wait a big and the upvotes will be coming

BTW, when you post a thread there, never link it anywhere saying "Please upvote", it's outside against the site rules IIRC, it's frowned upon at least.

But yeah, Reddit isn't that much of a special place, it's just that KiA has to keep an image to not get booted off Reddit, an image that makes GG looks good in general actually. Also don't go all chan stuff over there while making a thread, but I'm sure you know that already.

One of the problems with making a campaign here, is that is we get specific e-mails, we might not be able to include them in the campaign, because brigading.

———-

As for 2chan and the Japanese side, it's hard to communicate because of the damn language barrier. As an anime poster on Twitter, I follow and been followed and retweeted y fellow Japanese weeb, but there's not much communication going on, which makes me sad as we all love the same shit in the end

But yeah, it's gonna be tough

I'm getting a vibe that Fates will end up with underwhelming sales at least in part to SJW meddling.

Best case scenario, Fates sales ' lead to NoJ putting a foot down on NoA. Worst case scenario, Fates sales leads to holding back on Fire Emblem for the West.

>>314689

If we can get people to wake up then we might have a middle ground where we won't get what we want but it'll end up that the sjws gain nothing.

>>314689

The sales of the game will be fine, so an outright boycott simply won't work. The only way to really fix it is to be even more annoying than the people who are outraged at everything. ie sending them piles of mailing tubes telling them to fuck off the censorship (politely of course)

This is why I'm really hoping that this takes off.

>>314692

>>314689

>>314689

I have a feeling the game will sell well on name alone, but any further entries in the series after this will tank hard with zero effort needed.

>>314697

In Japan it'll sell in NA if they keep this shit up then people will drop it.

>>314698

>>314697

>our ID's are off by one

2spooky. Yeah, that's a continuation of the thought process I had. I know it'll still do well in moonland without NoA's bullshit.

>>314692

I mean yeah, I'm sure it'll pass in Japan. But outside of it? I'm worried that Fates won't do so hot there.

If I do end up getting the Japanese version of the game, how do I purchase the other game at a discount? I can't imagine the e-shop is going to let me use any currency other than yen.

we should makea thunderclap for social media for the Fates release.

>>314760

These are really good.