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GG is anti-feminism, full-stop.

>>319262

Even if this were a good idea, what exactly would you define a "feminist gaming site" to be?

I mean, wouldn't the basis of that be focusing on the genders of the game characters/developers instead of the game itself?

…how would that be much different than what GG is already opposed to?

Sorry but I see "feminist gaming" as legitimate as "feminist science."

The moment you go into it with a narrative you lose all objectivity.

>>319268

>Even if this were a good idea, what exactly would you define a "feminist gaming site" to be?

I suppose it would be a site that offered feminist reviews in the vein of Christ Centered Gamer. They have a normal review and a feminist review. Rather than demanding that devs change X because it offends them, they would just offer their criticism/feedback and have that be that.

>I mean, wouldn't the basis of that be focusing on the genders of the game characters/developers instead of the game itself?

Maybe I'm alone here, but my problem was always how they went about it. There's a huge difference between "X is sexist, you need to change it!" and "the game could have been better without so much sexualized fan service."

>>319270

>There's a huge difference between "X is sexist, you need to change it!" and "the game could have been better without so much sexualized fan service."

Seriously, who are you and what are you doing here? Are you from Reddit? Is this goon shit posting? Why would setting up a website to do the exact thing we're fucking sick and tired of is a good idea? First of all, "sexualization" is a made up construct. You even talking about it this terms means you have drank the kool-aid. Deprogram yourself. Most of us went through this process at some point, but feminism is a load of shit based on a house of cards, based on left over wank from 60's era hippie Marxism. Just let it go already. Your idea reeks of oppositional subversion.

Listen, I know we aligned with Based Mom and FYC, but that doesn't mean GG is pro-feminist bullshit. You are also advocating the kind of thing that Based Mom doesn't take seriously as far as I know.

Also the term anti-feminist is stupid. It should be non-feminist, because most people don't live in this politicized world the SJWs built for their selves. That's like referring to capitalists as anti-communists. This is letting the opposition frame the debate for you. Same thing you do when you actually use their terminology like sexualization and objectification, which inherently implies sexy = bad.

Wow, haven't had a dubs thread in a while

There are some good feminists in the GG movement like based mom and that ginger chick.

But not enough to warrant a specific site just for them.

Im not against the idea but I think a site like that would be a bit dead.

I want less political horseshit in my fucking hobby, not more.

>>319330

Not everybody feels that way, and you can't stop people from wanting different things than you do. Feminist critique informing the larger culture of games is the new normal.

>>319339

A bunch of feminists won awards from their industry peers last night at the Game Developers Choice awards, so I think a lack of feminists making games is not going to be an issue

>>319340

>Feminist critique informing the larger culture of games is the new normal.

You're a brain washed SJW. Pull your head out of your ass and read what you're actually saying. We don't want what you're selling.

Also if you want to talk macro issues, the number of women who identify as feminists is declining. It's obvious why, because some people made it about bitching about things like video games and being sexy.

>>319270

>Maybe I'm alone here

You're alone here.

Cheesecake sexy fan service deserves to exist. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Complain at your leisure, but the horseshit where the current megaphones are effectively shutting down japanese ports from coming to the west because they're making it seem like it's a bad market is horseshit and makes me mad. Stop moral policing and don't consume things you don't fucking like.

>>319349

No, I'm a realist. Just because I can see something happening doesn't mean I support it.

The facts on the ground are:

1) Some developers already care about feminism and include it in their games

2) Some press is highlighting them

3) Some feminist games have already won mainstream industry awards

Ergo

4) Feminism is *already* influencing mainstream gaming

If you can't accept that reality, by all means keep your head in the sand, but stop shitting up this thread with your ignorance.

>>319353

So because bad things are happening we should go along with them and make more bad websites to cater to bad people? WTF?

>>319262

>Rather than maintaining the status quo, feminist-leaning GamerGate supporters should found their own feminist gaming website. A gaming website that will review and critique games from a feminist lens, but do so ethically, without clickbait and without promoting censorship. This has been done before with ideological sites like Christ Centered Gamer, so I don't see why it can't be done with feminism or virtually any other ideology.

I used to be lukewarm about these ideas but now:

No no no a thousand times no. You know why? If CNN is still pedaling the narrative after all this time I've lost all faith in PR, but even if I didn't, even if PR made this thing awesome, it still doesn't change one fact.

Supporting feminists is an admittance of guilt. And admittance of validity of the SJW narrative full stop. Every time we mention video games and feminism or any other social activist garbage with game, they gain in power and relevance.

Do you think donating shekels and support to feminist causes will help the cause. How many shekels and initiatives do they have to get before they'll be satisfied.

"Hey, you know what, maybe we should all just donate a couple grand to Sarkesian, Wu, and Quinn and hell even Harper and maybe GGs image will improve."

Feminists don't need a games site. Activism mixing with critique is objectively corrupt because it warps your worldview until you incorporate it into everything.

If you truly cared about gaming, you'd realize the idea of a self-proclaimed feminist that truly cares about it is practically an oxymoron.

>>319367

"We" don't do anything. Everybody in GG sets their own goals and priorities. If you want to make a Pro-GG feminist gaming website, shine on you crazy diamond. If you don't want to, nobody's twisting your arm.

GG cares about Truth, not about wishful thinking, and the Truth is that feminism is objectively a bigger influence on mainstream games now than it was when the Zoepost happened, probably thanks in no small part to the spotlight GG put on developers and journalists who were interested in feminism.

You don't have to like it, but unless your plans for GG start with "First, we build a time machine," it doesn't help anyone to advocate we all pretend these things haven't happened. How that reality shapes your own behavior is up to every anon to decide individually.

>>319351

>Cheesecake sexy fan service deserves to exist. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Complain at your leisure, but the horseshit where the current megaphones are effectively shutting down japanese ports from coming to the west because they're making it seem like it's a bad market is horseshit and makes me mad. Stop moral policing and don't consume things you don't fucking like.

That's exactly my position.

Isn't Liana Kerzner already attempting this?

>Should GamerGate supporters launch a feminist gaming site?

Fuck no you god damn idiot or troll, whichever comes first.

This is what Feminism has done to pretty much everything it touches. Listen and learn people. Feminisim is also nothing more than socialism in disguise. Why would you even in flying fuck want to create such a site (other than making it a troll site)?

>>319353

>No, I'm a realist. Just because I can see something happening doesn't mean I support it.

Yeah, sure thing, Benedict Arnold. You go fight the fight for those feminist critics and SJW journalists that want to make everything politicized and no fun the rule of the day. Just be aware that we think you're shit and you stand for everything GG is against. Seriously, where did such cancerous ideas get in your head that we would be fine with this? Are you trolling or is this the KiA mindset now?

>>319398

What color is the sky in your world, anon?

>>319402

>(1)

>>319369

>GG cares about Truth

And the objective truth is that feminism is unethical as it's fascist misandry. In fact it's also misogynist as it hates females and wants to change them into something else.

>>319340

> Feminist critique informing the larger culture of games is the new normal.

>>319353

>The facts on the ground are:

>1) Some developers already care about feminism and include it in their games

>2) Some press is highlighting them

>3) Some feminist games have already won mainstream industry awards

>Ergo

>4) Feminism is *already* influencing mainstream gaming

Hells ya, damn straight not in the cis scum way though. If anything, why would a stronk persons even ask for permission to launch a feminist gaming site, let alone permission from these mysogynerds bullies. Bully for anti bullying the bullies in a non bullying way.

I say do it OP, and anyone out there and in here who listens and believes in what OP is saying, non feminist gamers are figuratively dead, non feminist gamers no longer have to be anyones audience. Just make sure you drop that problematic toxic GG label though. You want to broadcast a clear signal to your mark..umh marketed…wait I mean your respected audience that is.

Your cause is Social and Just and on the right side of history, the wind is on your back and beneath your wings. Social media giants like twitter are behind you and look how great they're doing financially, talk about making a profit AND making a real difference. College and universities are finally hiring such brave professors as Ms. Click. And last but certainly not least, Gawker Media has recently won a stunning court case against that sexist adulterer sports entertainer Hulk Hogan.

Come on OP, let's leave these goobergoombahs to their sad pathetic little clubhouse. We will build a glorious offword blahg that will as they say, break the internet, due to our sheer awesomeness of course.

So long loooooosers, Link IS a girl, deal with it.