[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / agatha2 / b2 / chori / choroy / dempart / jenny / omnichan / vichan ]

/games/ - Vidya, Tabletops, Games of All Kinds

/tg/+/v/, Furry and Jew-Free, Guaranteed

Catalog   Archive

Winner of the 80rd Attention-Hungry Games
/otter/ - Otter For Your Soul

THE INFINITY CUP IS COMING BACK
May 2019 - 8chan Transparency Report
Name
Email
Subject
Comment *
File
Password (Randomized for file and post deletion; you may also set your own.)
* = required field[▶ Show post options & limits]
Confused? See the FAQ.
Embed
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Oekaki
Show oekaki applet
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options
dicesidesmodifier

Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, swf, pdf
Max filesize is 16 MB.
Max image dimensions are 15000 x 15000.
You may upload 5 per post.


/games/ Sister Boards - /monster/ /tg/ /cyoa/ /animu/

File: d11f0722a852444⋯.jpg (73.58 KB, 480x678, 80:113, DRgmmmGVwAEcQpi.jpg)

67e78a  No.2382[Reply]

I'm looking to get a backlog started,so What do you have in your backlogs /games/?

10 posts and 4 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

8840d0  No.2641

Adding the entire Metal Gear franchise and Ikaruga to >>2391


59a212  No.2645

Neptunia series (2 and 3)

MGS V

Republic Commando

and all other races (except tau. i quit after campaing because i didn't liked the campain maps in it) in soulstorm


7e35d0  No.2660

I forced myself through trashman: absoluteshit

it baffles me how much they fucked up literally everything about the series.

Now in my backlog i have:

>Eiyuu Senki,

>C&C renegade,

>Ruiner


f05bd8  No.2664

>>2660

>C&C Renegade

You're either going to love it or hate it. The campaign is pretty fun, but it's hardly anything to write home about.


7e35d0  No.2698

>>2664

Finished Eiyuu Senki on 10th mission in Renegade.

I really like havoc's one liners




File: 647e035330f1d8f⋯.jpg (128.88 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, 20170523220531_1.jpg)

53de49  No.98[Reply]

Latest run of CoC ended because a bandit. Fuck them

65 posts and 19 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

46d490  No.2460

>>2458

The only two places I can think of are the abandoned factory(?) at the entrance to zaton, or the encampment just east of the train station. Don't factions randomly spawn at spawn points anyway?


f43373  No.2491

>>2460

sorta kinda.


f7b545  No.2654

File: 25c016f9918744b⋯.png (934.51 KB, 1024x616, 128:77, Why are we still here. Jus….png)

http://archive.is/poINp

>How about a STALKER battle royale game? There's one in development. It's called Fear the Wolves and it's made by Vostok Games, the studio formed from the ashes of STALKER developer GSC.

>Fear the Wolves takes place, like STALKER, in the creepy radiation-blasted wasteland of Chernobyl. It's a 100-player deathmatch where you can play lone wolf or in squads - but players won't be the only enemy. Deadly anomalies constantly threaten your health, mitigated somewhat by protective gear found while exploring. Of more pressing danger, however, will be the mutated forms lurking in the shadows...

>Fear the Wolves will be released at some point this year on PC and consoles - presumably much later this year. There'll be an early access phase on PC beforehand.

>Vostok Games was formed in 2012 when STALKER 2 collapsed and GSC effectively fell apart. The studio set to work on a spiritual successor to STALKER called Survarium, which is still in development now.

>Survarium differs from STALKER in being multiplayer, online and free-to-play. Gingerly exploring an open-world alone is not the main focus. Nevertheless the themes of STALKER remain. It isn't the fallout zone of Chernobyl you're exploring and which is slowly killing you, but Survarium's environment is equally hostile, albeit caused by natural phenomena. Survarium is also trialling long PVE missions you can tackle with friends.

>Exactly when Survarium will be released, I don't know, but it's in Early Access if you fancy a go. The upside to its long and open development will be a lot of multiplayer lessons learned by Vostok, which bodes well for Fear the Wolves.

F


cfd6f6  No.2655

File: 0cdcb3743e21e90⋯.jpg (754.96 KB, 1980x1319, 1980:1319, 1388597234121.jpg)

>>2654

Out of all the games they could've made with the stalker universe, this is what they go with.

I understand this is the current trendy genre, but fuck if this doesn't leave a sour taste.


fdbbe2  No.2657

File: 5e3f3116ce64145⋯.jpg (49.62 KB, 526x701, 526:701, 1465280012866.jpg)

>>2654

It won't stop




File: 5c683d4e4d41240⋯.png (126.96 KB, 513x338, 513:338, Phil.png)

748f1a  No.1324[Reply]

Hello /games/. A long time back I did something for /monster/ where I took OC creators, and shoved them into NuCom2 and set out to see who lived and who died.

I'm thinking doing this for /games/ but instead of OC creators I was thinking characters from Vidya, be it in-game characters, people from the industry, etc.

I'd link to the thread on /monster/ but it's gone. The gist is I'd stream on certain nights the game and everything for a few hours, and then in the thread post screen caps of highlights that happened during the course of the game. As for what I should use I might not use LW2 because I'm not a fan of "make it hard by adding lots of bullshit."

In any case I wanna hear some ideas. I'll have the mods edit the thread when it's ready.

129 posts and 348 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

748f1a  No.1654

>>1646

no in Nucom 2 the game fudges shots based on those factors. so say you have perfectly unharmed soldiers and you've killed 4 of 7 aliens.

the game may suddenly decide you need to suffer and give a ADVENT trooper that has been missing every shot so far a critical hit.


9bb91d  No.1916

I really ought to finish this. I'll shoot for 8pm Friday night this week hows about


9bb91d  No.1918

>>1916

and shit keeps coming up. Next week for sure


dc1976  No.2413

I'll try to revive this one day. Maybe

I wish war of the (((Chosen))) had LW2 support. I dunno if base game with the update has the fixes I need, most likely no. But w/e


3fd7c0  No.2625

Gonna restart this on friday




File: b417fe823bd9167⋯.jpg (111.63 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 789645134561541.jpg)

File: 377ee775689d02e⋯.jpg (163.33 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 78485643246954.jpg)

File: dbe83762d7c024e⋯.jpg (253.02 KB, 1200x628, 300:157, 546418741815461847154.jpg)

c79a8d  No.2498[Reply]

Is Ubisoft going to be the ones behind Triple A Early access games? Each one of these games I posted were terrible at launch however Ubisoft said instead of focusing on sequels they want to improve their games over time.

>Rainbow 6 Siege is now one of the biggest shooters around

>The Division is now getting praise all of a sudden

I dont really know For Honor but apparently its getting dedicated servers and another year of DLC.

0b7483  No.2500

Most of the people giving it praise are likely the journo sites that will suck dick for food and do it unironically. A big problem with online only games is once they die that's it and if their servers go off again you can never play it unless some dedicated group makes a private server and in MMO cases it's worse because a lot of the data is held serverside instead of client


0b7483  No.2527

>>2521

fuck off this isn't /v/


4ace44  No.2608

>>2527

videogames are retarded, come back to the tabletop


81d749  No.2619

>>2608

What about if there was a tabletop where all of the pieces weight heavy amounts so that lifting can be done at the same time?


ab853f  No.2637

>>2608

>>2527

>>2619

Apologies for not deleting that shit sooner, but try not to reply to those kinds of posts.




File: ddc1fba15cac328⋯.jpg (2.75 MB, 1735x6850, 347:1370, ps1chart.jpg)

File: 8aa8272a3923c42⋯.png (2.21 MB, 2968x1725, 2968:1725, ps1import1.png)

File: 129d9c11dd4224e⋯.png (2.13 MB, 2968x1725, 2968:1725, ps1import2.png)

File: 626301654ce7706⋯.jpg (305.99 KB, 1151x1845, 1151:1845, ps1nippon.jpg)

File: 7439a494cfb157c⋯.jpg (2.94 MB, 2763x5000, 2763:5000, pspchart.jpg)

60e6d4  No.2607[Reply]

I really like this little machine and its ability emulate PS1 games quite well, so much I cooked up a document about it which I converted to my shitty Neocities site (https://vdn.neocities.org/PSP.html).

Here's some recommendation charts as well and feel free to discuss PSP and PS1 games in here.

60b0ad  No.2617

>No SRW Alpha Gaiden for PS1




File: b32cc7450050cd9⋯.jpg (883.09 KB, 1000x708, 250:177, 947beed98d4afc3ce3cfc41aa8….jpg)

340a7d  No.913[Reply]

Because the share threads are the only reason I still bother going to /v/, I thought I might start up a share thread for /games/. Shamelessly copying the general OP for the /v/ share threads.

Check IGG-Games first before making a request, please check that the other links are still up before posting.

For Wii ISO`s first, check Consoles.

For GOG first, check the May 16th GOG dump (PC) and the site(s) under Check before posting.

We prefer Danknets Magnet links and not that shitty clearnet, shit like bittorents and IPFS.

Read a book or something if you want to catchup:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_p2p#List_of_anonymous_P2P_networks_and_clients

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Anonymising_yourself

https://www.privacytools.io/

https://thatoneprivacysite.net/

Save EVERYTHING >>>/eternalarchive/

For the full list:

https://gitgud.io/Blank/ShareThreadPasta/tree/master

pcgamingwiki.com

Useful site to help fix most PC games.

Vola

https://volafile.org/r/HF33Go

CheckingBeforePosting

https://gitgud.iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

15 posts and 1 image reply omitted. Click reply to view.

aa4998  No.1655

>>1365

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:fc580183606622f13d5d5d887fbbaf1dad8d2054&dn=Super+Mario+64+ROM++.N64&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969


1faaee  No.1733

Man, why bother uploading that NDS rom pack with no compression. I've got around 150 roms I collected myself and compressed with 7zip at around 5.5GB in comparison to the uncompressed mega folder with 338 roms at 28.65GB.


0c0228  No.2183

Do you guys have any personal vidya related mods/fixes/edits? Here's some stuff I've made that I haven't uploaded anywhere due to laziness.

Silent Storm mods

- Rebalance/bugfix mod

- Unique uniforms for non hero player characters

- Widescreen fixes

Armored Core Formula Front International with English FMVs.

Front Mission 2 English Patch with fixed FMVs.

If you want any of these just say so and I'll finally bother uploading them.


874589  No.2198

>>2183

Did some additional fixes to the FM2 Eng Patch and uploaded it already so here: https://mega.nz/#!dGIF0JgB!P5d-3TDWciZ5AF9xYG6RAA5ttYWbiUrz-piZlU9hmEw


b86cfd  No.2590

http://www.mediafire .com/ file/pbk8ob5pwga33zj/GSS.7z

Golden Sky Stories plus Kickstarter supplements. I've got a few more lesser known rpgs if anyone is interested I could start uploading more.




File: 2094566aac945cc⋯.jpg (221.19 KB, 960x540, 16:9, TiamatOpening.jpg)

0a45c1  No.2023[Reply]

Starting this thread here for collections of PF and SF material as well as 3PP of those RPGs.

746 posts and 8 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

a47d74  No.3015

>>3014

literally type in sendspace <dot> com, then add the rest of the address he gave you. There is no lesson plan for sendspace. You just go there. No account necessary.

It's not complicated, people.


de0803  No.3016

>>3015

Thanks for the info and getting back to me quickly.


3dc8db  No.3017

>>3013

Thanks a lot, I have also a request, if anyone can fulfill it...

Can the text be removed from the Traps & Treasures Pawn Collection?

Or even better, can the pieces be packed as jpgs in a zip archive?

So that they can be used in maps without the writings.

Thanks in advance.


e224e8  No.3019

Big surprise, rpg.rem.uz is down now. I swear..


55c8ce  No.3020

>>3019

No, it's not. Just checked. Everyone calm the fuck down.




File: 899f6989b83ef31⋯.jpg (9.4 KB, 298x90, 149:45, 12 times in a row.jpg)

b99cd3  No.1920[Reply]

What game have you probably died the most in, /games/?

18 posts and 5 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

1a7488  No.2545

>>1921

>PS3

>While I was younger

The fuck?

Get out of here highschooler


ad8f1b  No.2548

>>1920

Probably Ark. Even in the designated "easy" areas the game still sends high level dinos after you.

I had my base set up near the beach on the east side of the island and at one point counted no less than 4 alphas in the immediate area.

And don't even get me started on the other players, PvE is where it's at.


08dcb7  No.2554

in deadbolt, the mission where you need to destroy 3 totems under a minute, i had 256 deaths because I forgot you can wait out the timer in the vent


b48e16  No.2555

Shit. The only one I remember from years back is the bike section in Battletoads. More recently I suppose Elona.

>>1950

The first time you encounter a bloodsucker in agroprom underground fucked me up. My mind was too spooked to think correctly.

>>1974

Stage 4 is always when the difficulty ramps up. When all 3 lyrica sisters turned up at the same time in PCB took me aback.


f6300c  No.2563

File: 688fc898791dd9e⋯.png (212.68 KB, 600x594, 100:99, Lingering_Will.png)

In critical mode, hell even out of it, this guy does not fuck around in the slightest. I got walled trying to kill him for a fairly long time.




File: 75a118563fb09e3⋯.jpg (443.93 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1445603754539.jpg)

File: fe557f3f6d3a130⋯.jpg (227.22 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1468601142369.jpg)

bb0552  No.51[Reply]

Games with giant robots or about them. MUH REALISM fags need not apply

46 posts and 19 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

d497f0  No.2386

SD Gundam G Generations Overworld is fucking good game and everyone should play it. It can be a little grindy and ships are expensive as fuck, but once you get a full team set up you don't notice it. Anyone play Genesis? Is it enough of an upgrade to be worth importing?


7ecb19  No.2387

>>2386

I beat it before the EN patch came out.

I lucked out and found two mecha that could unlock Black History Turn A and bought like 5 of them for Hell mode.


8127a0  No.2429

Other than this guy >>79 pointed out months ago, why isn't Zone of the Enders mentioned more often as a mecha game? Is it too short-lived as a series (fairly easy to finish within a few hours or so, if you play ZoE 1) or are there more issues with it? I'll admit that it can lack in variety sometimes, even though ZoE 2 added a few more enemy types and made them more aggressive than ones in the first game, making them less of a pushover. It's still linear compared to the first game where you can freely explore a little though.


7ecb19  No.2433

>>2429

Because I don't fucking know.

Never played ZoE so no comment on it


679bdc  No.2557

>>2429

ZoE is largely overshadowed by MGS. The only reason the original sold was because it came with the MGS2 demo whereas the sequel was impossible to find until the HD remake which in turn mostly sold because it came with the demo for MGR. Its sad really but what can you do.




File: 95fca6e8a286906⋯.png (38.24 KB, 320x240, 4:3, Screenshot (74).png)

c5f3db  No.1792[Reply]

Have any of you played this? Would you call it a game?

7 posts omitted. Click reply to view.

c2d2f8  No.1818

There isn't really a lose state, is there? Which would mean it could barely be considered a game.


45e968  No.1819

File: c6d1fd0d854f576⋯.jpg (32.42 KB, 608x342, 16:9, SMB01.jpg)

File: fc6cf6126ffe058⋯.jpg (15.73 KB, 480x360, 4:3, super mario world.jpg)

File: 30911c1c37641e6⋯.png (50.72 KB, 320x288, 10:9, Wario_Land_II.png)

File: bbbdcda43d4ff1f⋯.png (2.28 KB, 480x320, 3:2, seiklus.png)

>>1818

It's a pity that most of the people trying to experiment with what can or cannot constitute a game are con artists trying to debase gaming into a way to make a quick buck via turd polishing. I'd like to see a genuine study of it.

Still, offhand, it seems to me that Yume Nikki is something that's explored, rather than played. From that angle, it's not a game, it's something else. I'd call it a "virtual reality" if the term wasn't already taken.


56d4af  No.1881

>>1797

I would call this video game as a art form but in a traditional way, no.


49063d  No.2368

>>1818

Yume Nikki does have fail states: you can get teleported into inescapable rooms, requiring you to wake up to escape. There's also that falling eggplant game everyone loves.


3422f3  No.2553

>>1819

I'd consider The Witness to be a good representation of what you're working for.




File: 90e687af7af2f07⋯.png (45.12 KB, 657x228, 219:76, 90e687af7af2f07c5fda4633b2….png)

364243  No.1656[Reply]

TF2V, what is it?

TF2V stands for Team Fortress 2 Vintage, a /v/ made version of TF2C with all the gay shit removed and the game restored to stock TF2. The aim of TF2V is to recreate 2007 TF2 before Valve fucked it up.

Downloads

Full game:

https://mega.nz/#!HA1DWD7S!VJbgl6IYxfvHWmKIN4x_qdm7SZWmrcJGssmmOY98r5E

Hotfix:

https://mega.nz/#!HRMkkQLJ!fCQe15XgZSLJSPOGxEVQCZpgjgcb6uKoV4KVHcCpnWA

Full version w/ Hotfix:

https://mega.nz/#!GUsB0IiS!uM-jNMsPIPUtXT3G2JnvOVX16n9NlWyisDeupdcAay0

Mega is shit and I don't want to download their shit plugin

https://github.com/megous/megatools

Then use these, megatools are a set of applications run through CMD to do things such as download from mega. A readme for each exe is included in the package on their site. By default the megadl tool downloads to where it is unless specified.

DED GAME LOL

Right now no one but /v/ seems to be aware this exists, so best we can do is spread the word about it.

Why not TF2C?

Because the devs went full retard and deviated from what TF2C wa meant to do, instead they added a 4 team deathmatch mode no one really seemed to enjoy and useless hats and weapons. Also the lead now is a disgusting unstable tranny

21 posts and 1 image reply omitted. Click reply to view.

952fde  No.2412


7754c8  No.2416

>>2412

I really got to get into this, anyhow, changelog:

Binary fixes:

+"Complete" implementation of Payload and Payload Race HUD:

-Works on every payload map

-Mostly consistent with the original

-Missing animations for hill arrows and cart "whoosh" effect

-Is not visible during preround (~5 sec period of initial spawns)

-Accurate tracking of payload progress

-Red "alert" on carts nearing the final point in a round during races

+Alarms will now sound when the cart nears the final checkpoint

+Announcer will now say attacker/defender voice lines for checkpoints

+Greentexting and Pinktexting can now be enabled and disabled clientside via the command cl_use_custom_formatting (0/1)

+Engineer haul speed reduced from 90% to 75% (pre-Gun Mettle)

+Spies will now default to the client player when disguising as a friendly

+Heal beams will no longer show on cloaked spies at dispensers

-Healing sounds will not sound as well

+Voice bubbles will no longer appear over cloaked enemy spies when using sv_alltalk 1

+Medic bonesaw taunt will now play the violin jingles

+"Powerplay" roles will now be kicked on connection to Vintage servers (subject to change)

+Payload overtime logic is now workign 100%. Overtime now plays out as in retail TF2

+Menu music resources changes to fix issues with menu music

Security Fixes:

+Servers can now use file hashing to determine genuine TF2V copies

-Should also increase boot times for servers

+Added whitelisting for addons, models, etc.

-Jingles and sprays whitelisted by default, except in fullyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


99cb32  No.2427

>>2412

holy fucking shit finally


952fde  No.2436

people in server, come join


2b5673  No.2539

File: 5ced5d81881cbed⋯.png (181.3 KB, 1158x863, 1158:863, unknown.png)

New version released fixing some of the issues from the other versions. There's also a Steam group and a Discord too if you're into communityfagging.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/team-fortress-2-vintage/downloads/team-fortress-2-vintage-v3rc3




File: b80b2108d4f958f⋯.gif (332.96 KB, 500x375, 4:3, farcry3_ssaom.gif)

6ecbb6  No.2373[Reply]

Aside from motion blur, what settings do you instantly disable in most games?

SSAO is usually rubbish. Good ambient occlusion isn't even accurate unless the scene is a cloudy day, and many versions add disgusting black halos to everything. Better versions waste extra frames to make an inaccurate effect more subtle and look closer to SSAO disabled, so why bother?

535fc4  No.2425

>>2373

I always disable lens flare and chromatic abberation.


d92d23  No.2426

>>2425

>lens flare

I will never understand the appeal of that, in games or in movies


6ecbb6  No.2431

>>2426

Lens flares can be useful for emphasizing the brightness of a light source or scale of whatever the shot depicts, but adding it to a video game is usually pretty stupid. Adding noise makes a little more sense sometimes: in games with colour banding issues it works as a poor man's dithering.




YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

84b52d  No.2423[Reply]

First PV of the newest SRW title.

>Original Mazinkaiser is back

>In a game with Mazinger ZERO and Great Emperor G



File: dce6a6d1a3c5f6b⋯.jpg (99.66 KB, 578x327, 578:327, pgl-inter-challenge-may-16….jpg)

d66e85  No.598[Reply]

Since Graves gave it a ok I decided to start the first pokémon thread on /games/.

Discuss the main series and the spin-offs, just follow the Global Rules.

>Favorite Gen?

>Favorite Type?

>Favorite Mon?

>Favorite Spin-off?

There's a competition ongoing, players get mega stones and qualified players get Championship Points. What's your team? What you think about the competition till now?

27 posts and 6 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

ad7509  No.1943

>>1917

Anon, they never release a new mon Mid-Gen, we only get a new forms and moves.

>>1933

Between that half a minute trailer and Dusk dog...nothing at all, also the dog is a A-Ninja thing you can't get it normally on the game only through a event.


e4f8aa  No.1957

File: d339eaa1cf99399⋯.jpg (157.55 KB, 904x636, 226:159, 234556.jpg)


ac9605  No.2123

Well its been a lot of time and since then we got some new info like new Z-Moves and most importantly new mons on the UBS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=108&v=bucxOT8zudk


3d23da  No.2141

I quit the main series after black and white 2, it went to massive shit.

Just noticed this weekend that pokemon sage got a new demo version. It's pretty much the only good looking pokemon related game anymore.


2c4672  No.2173

>>1917

Well, looks like you owe someone 10 bucks




File: 6afc9282680e110⋯.jpg (245.12 KB, 865x560, 173:112, uwotwontfit.jpg)

b82826  No.313[Reply]

http://archive.is/PxvrE

How is Square suddenly having issues with being understaffed months after the game's announcement? They're either trying to create a genuinely grand remake and don't have the manpower for it or are somehow understaffed even for making a half-assed cash crab. I'm betting on the latter, but how did they get to this sad state anyhow?

0ca788  No.319

>>313

>current year square making a final fantasy game

does anyone really think it's gonna be anything but a disappointment


aa4459  No.332

>>319

KH3 and the FF7 remake are both being built off the engine they botched together for FF15, and all current rumors are saying that Squeenix is failing, yet again, to get their shit together in a timely manner, and soon KH3 will be released in a half-assed state, like FF15, and all their future games won't be much better. Sounds like they are on the verge of losing a lot of Brouzouf and IO Interactive just ditched them, so they are losing IPs to milk too.


d33d96  No.1184

Why do I get a feeling that they're in a situation similar back to their early PS1 days where they're shuffling all of these games at once? Sounds like they mismanaged themselves into a corner and now they can't get out. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually were trying to make these games several times throughout different engines just trying to see what will work the best while developing the other games.


f84f5f  No.2140

Squenix had a good run, made some great games in their time, but all good things must come to pass. It would be better for everyone if they just closed shop now, instead of dragging on this painful existence any longer.

They should sell off their IPs (while they still have any value) to various smaller companies and see what they can do with'em.




Delete Post [ ]
[]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
| Catalog | Nerve Center | Cancer
[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / agatha2 / b2 / chori / choroy / dempart / jenny / omnichan / vichan ]