No.403
So, today I am switching from Ubuntu to OpenSuse after using Ubuntu exclusively for about three months. Pic related is my long-term goal. Any input?
No.404
I think that Suse is a pretty good stepping stone, but you should really try out Debian. You can still use what you know from Ubuntu (apt, dpkg), except it's a much more versatile system. It can be bloated to hell or really minimal, stable as can be or on a relatively recent rolling release. However, my problem is that now I've become a baby duck too scared to try out new distros for fear that they would be a waste of time. Because of this, try out Suse before Debian.
No.405
>>404You just described exactly why I'm going from Ubuntu to OpenSuse to Fedora to Manjaro.Each step is a successive rung as far as scale is concerned, but not a derivative of the last. Thanks for the input.
>based 404, the devil's number No.406
if you have a spare computer to fiddle with, you could go straight for gentoo and learn how it works as you try to install it
once you succeed you keep it for a couple of years to get to know it inside and out
No.407
>>406and just to add
you don't really need to learn any other source based distro, like Lunar or Crux. i suppose they're cool, never used them, but once you get a hold of gentoo's use flag system, you'd be rocking hard with no need to go LFS
also, skip deepin because the updates suck from chinese servers. that's why i call it derpin
No.408
>>403>possible misadventures along the way>Green peppers No.409
>>403>possible misadventures along the way>Green peppers No.410
>>406>>407I've toyed with Gentoo in a VM. Haven't really touched it once I got to startx, though.
No.411
Manjaro is so simple, people might as well start from there. Then go straight to Arch. Fuck that Fedora/Debian nonsense.
No.413
U'r far too pessimistic, you could go to gentoo in less than a year.year 2 can be LFS.
No.415
>>403you should definitely try slackware (full install, or if you'll have enough knowledge, select the packages you want) and debian
oh, and you might as well skip fedora, it sucks
>>411>debian nonsenseexplain, i bet you never tried it
No.417
>>415Oh, I have. It has its uses, but for general computing Arch will give you everything you need without having to undo and remove shit you don't like.
No.419
>>417no, if you do a netinst or use debootstrap you don't have to "remove shit"; a debian minimal install behave basically the same as arch, except for apt-get that's a huge pile of shit
No.422
>>403Debian (netinstall) -> Slackware -> Gentoo
Discard Arch, it's shit.
No.429
Well, this thread really helped…
No.433
>>422debian is so much shit that decade long developers will fork it pretty soon
No.541
Update: after a failed suse install, I skipped straight to manjaro and am glad I did. It's fucking amazing and has taught me so much. Thanks for all the input everyone.
No.542
>>422Wait for devuan then do Devuan > slackware > Gentoo or better yet try openbsd instead and you will probably learn more about modern unix then you will if you use GNU/Linux
No.543
>>542Either that, or figure out how to do a systemd-free Debian, then Slackware > Gentoo. Another second choice would be Void, depends if you're a minimuhlist.
No.544
>>542I would love to get into the *bsds
No.545
>>544I really like the characteristics of DragonFly BSD too. Would you say it's ready for mainstream use yet?
No.546
>Puppy Linux under possible misadventures
Definitely got a kek out of me
Also, Linux Mint should be in that chart instead of OpenSUSE imo.
No.549
>>433Great OS, shit support for users or businesses. Shit, take Ubuntu as an example - take apart the useless shit Canonical does and the community, and that's pretty much Debian. The difference is one sells and solves users problems, the other doesn't.
No.602
>>542Devuan isn't dead yet? Thank god.