/gentoo/ - Technology

>>651
But my dream isn't actually to program consumer computers…

>>651
My dream programming language and shell already exist. C, rc.

My dream language would be C with lambdas. However, lambdas go against the simplicity of C.

we need better editors that can show the program flow better
something that shows a 3d model of the objects in a program or maybe a view that points in which direction data flow is moving

as for programming we need to develop a type of home programming language for home users that will try not to crash when it meets undefined behavior and instead uses build in logic to path the data the best it can to make anything come out no matter what.
the programming itself should also be graphical and drag and drop, overall a person should be able to create a pong using noting but his mouse.

the idea behind this is to allow average people to create simple programs that have good I/O capabilities out of the box, i think it would be best to remove loops arrays and only keep the keyword "if" as a basic logic controller.

basically the language should have the following
>drag and drop UI
>a GUI builder that hides fine details
>easy creation and use of visual/audio/input/network/file objects
>assortment of functions
>removing functions and classes, data types should be abstracted and if possible converted from one type to another e.g string A("hello") converted to an int would give you the value of the place each letter holds in the alphabet
the language should have as few keywords as possible if and while with the standard operators such and not and or should be enough

As for scripting languages, they are fine as they are

low level languages need better multi-threading

>>651
>What would your dream programming language be like, /gentoo/?

C with conservative metaprogramming features (as in, not full-on Lisp macros); instead of:

int times_two(int x)
{
    return x * 2;
}

double times_two(double x)
{
    return x * 2;
}

long long times_two(long long x)
{
    return x * 2;
}

// ...

something like:

template times_two(x)
{
    return x * 2;
}

Maybe not that exact syntax though, since it's a little ambiguous. Also, there may need to be syntax for explicitly exporting/aliasing specific instances of templates (to avoid name mangling bullshit altogether).



>inb4 C preprocessor
>inb4 "Type-generic Macros"
>inb4 C++

Just no. You know better.

What do you mean? Have we gone back in time?
C still exists, right? I mean, what else would people program in?

>>662
Some hipster language like haskell or Rust. One that is set so far back in time that they even have old bugs. I don't know what else people want to program in though.

>>654
>>660
Upgrade to C++ you degenerate sperglords.

>>664
>C++
>upgrade

"no"

>>664
> C++ is upgrade of C
sure m8, keep believing that.
And C# is an upgrade of C++, yada yada

How is C plus plus a upgrade? it more like a downgrade if anything hue hue hue.

>>659
That has already been done and the implementations suck. I wish it weren't so, but it is. People have learned to hate the concept.

>>662
>I mean, what else would people program in?
>>663
>I don't know what else people want to program in though.

Glorious Lisp, for when you're too lazy to write self-modifying code in C.

>>666
Nice try Satan