/girltalk/ - Girltalk

Bumping this in hope there's still discussion. Facts:

1- The rate of men to women in the autism spectrum is 4-1. Though some people argue that girls are under-diagnosed, it's estimated that there are still way more autistic men than women. Also these days we can identify some physical characteristics of autism such as this or that part of the brain being bigger and/or more active in autists than normal people.

2- non heterosexiality is higher in both autistic men and autistic women. Trans, bi and homo.

3- Autistic children are born bigger than normal people in average.

4- Older parents have higher rates of autistic children.

5- A recent study suggested that autism might be a "gender defiant" abnormally because they measured many phenotypical traits of both autistic men and women and basically concluded that, in general, autistic women have masculinized phenotype and autistic men have feminized phenotype. This might contradict the general theory of today that autism is some kind of over-masculine biological development.

Not to be a dick, but it kind of seems like you're objectifying the condition. It's not "Autistic girls" it's girls, who are individuals, who society happens to say are, "different" and give them an extra "name." All of the people in that video were extremely high-functioning as well, and even vocal at all to boot. It's leaving out a lot of people with the condition.

Your emphasis on diagnosis and "objective" determination about it is what worries me the most. They aren't their condition, they are who they are, and the same goes for you. "Diagnosis" doesn't really matter. It's not like you unlock an achievement for it or anything.

>>662

> watch sports

:/

>>714

This would help

>>705

Have you tried talking to them? Like, straight up just explaining that you take offense when things are overly explained, and that it hurts your feelings?

>>2402

>The rate of men to women in the autism spectrum is 4-1

It honestly explains why men do the most inventing - it's because we lock ourselves in a room completely obsessed with a very narrow focus and work feverishly past the point of healthiness. The guys who can't do that, do the physical work, and that accounts for most work that gets done in the world. Developing, Iterating, troubleshooting, building. Not that women don't contribute - not even remotely saying that there aren't brilliantly inventive people of all kinds - just saying that it probably is related. Autism spectrum individuals have been incredibly helpful in advancing society - like almost unbelievably so.

>>2417

>Not that women don't contribute - not even remotely saying that there aren't brilliantly inventive people of all kinds - just saying that it probably is related.

I think this is the first time I've been on an imageboard where someone has said in a non sexist way

>>2422

Well I would hope that I'm not a sexist, but I do have some "benevolent" sexist tendencies - however, I don't assume that they are harmless, and so do try to keep them in check, speak with women about them to see if or how they are offensive and in what ways, etc.

and it's not like inventing is the only important work being done, either, I mean jesus christ, women freakin' literally _create people_ not saying any form of work is more valuable than any other. I for one firmly believe that without plumbers, the top scientists in the world would never get anything done - it's a group effort, always. Guys just do tend to be obsessive shut-ins more, both for better and for worse.

>>2424

> but I do have some "benevolent" sexist tendencies

Like what?

>>2424

If you want to try less sexist right now, you could remind us all that although men are responsible for 99% of technological inventions out there, women most likely were the ones who invented and developed (and are still developing) the most important tool of human inteligence, without which it is speculated we wouldn't even be rational animals: language.

If the theories about autism being some kind of over-masculinization are right, then this would only come to confirm that old speculation on evolution that language was created by our female ancestors socializing in caves and tribes while the males were out hunting or fighting. Because one of the main characteritics of autism is deficit in language. Autistic babies learn language latter than normal babies, and baby boys learn language latter than baby girls.

>>2425

>Like what?

Leftover BS reflexive thinking that women aren't deceptive, mean, etc., which I am slowly coming out of. They're just like everybody else when it comes down to it.

>>2429

> less sexist

Sexism means holding the belief that one sex is superior to the other, and not one iota of my comment mentioned anything about male superiority in anything other than a specific area. My referred to "benevolent sexism" (as that is the term used, accurate or not) is the flawed belief that /women/ are somehow superior, because that is how my mother (primary parent) raised me to think, when in fact, I will quote myself as saying

>not saying any form of work is more valuable than any other.

and I go on to literally equate, with no sarcasm, the efforts of top scientists to janitors (both of which are heavily-male fields, coincidentally)

So yeah, funny you mention language comprehension.

I mentioned baby-making as the penultimate act of all the world's creation. Speaking of the less-incredible statistically autism-laden fields of computer science and programming, the first computer programmer _ever_ was a woman, and we could credit women with this and that all night, but, like it or not, women are the reason that you and I are even alive. That's not "sexism," it's reality, so please don't water-down that very serious word with carelessness.

>>2476

>which I am slowly coming out of.

That's good anon.

>>2677

I tought autists were good at geography. But learning to talk that late is a strong sign. Measure your finger ratio (2D:4D), if the finger ratio is different from the average woman, you'd rather go to a specialist.

Go to a psych and ask. It's not something you 'have' like cancer or herpes, it's a purely behavioural diagnosis and the only person that can make it is a psychologist.

That said, language delay, auditory processing disorder-like symptoms, sensitivity to stimuli (especially in crowds) and hyper-focused knowledge acquisition (for want of a better term) are all pretty typical symptoms of high-functioning autism.

Pretending to be an animal, on the other hand, is just one of those things kids do.

So in short: Get a referral, see a psych. They might diagnose you, they might not (autism in females is still kind of controversial, and a lot of the femautism campaigns are complete bullshit spinoffs of the equally bullshit 'aspie' movement); but in either case it sounds like you might benefit from stuff like triangular breathing and all the other CBT that psychs love.