/grim/ - The End

WELP, my thread on /b/ finally got driven off the catalog from a wave of spam. Fuck that place needs much better moderation.

Anyways, I certainly appreciate the offer. The main thing I had in mind that I think could be useful to the board, at least from looking at the success that top 25 boards have seen here that weren't legacy boards (not that I expect /grim/ to ever be in the top 25), is some drawn OC. For the most part that's tended to be stuff like drawn mascots/board-tans (a skele-tan, perhaps, for /grim/? kek), and maybe a drawn *pill chart of some sort. *pilling is kind of a cancerous way of introducing people to board ideology IMO, but the point of the "grey pill" is supposed to be making fun of all of those other *pills anyways.

But aside from that, I can get by with Photoshop. Any other OC that goes with the board would also be greatly appreciated (death and decay and skellingtons and whatnot, like the other anon in the thread mentioned). Whatever inspires your skeleton heart. Hell, we could just start a thread for people to shitpost their art if more drawfags came here. I'm pretty loose with what kind of content gets posted here as long as it fits with the vibe.

I'm a little confused though why you'd need to be a mod for this. We don't really get enough posts to need more than myself to moderate.

>>402

i assure you that you will have lots of posts that arent all made by me if you mod me

i will drive the traffic here with no mercy

only the dead will now peace from my shilling

fuck em

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love it

I guess I'll answer.

Becoming a nihilist is a rough process because I imagine most of us came from a background of being into existentialism, and maybe a lot of us also have depression or something that got us into those kinds of things in the first place. But most people who aren't religious but still have existential qualms seem to find a secular repose in existentialism and never bother to study philosophy any further. Being a student of philosophy myself, I came to learn that existentialism belongs to a specific point in history. A monumental culmination of human civilization and culture that happened in the beginning of the 20th century, the two world wars, that lead to the death of modernism and left the West very confused. It is my opinion that existentialism was forming beforehand by some particularly astute thinkers (Nietzsche and Kierkegaard) and taken up by the Existentialists themselves (Sartre, De Beauvoir, Heidegger to an extent) in the wake of that and phenomenology.

But anyways, existentialism died at the hand of postmodernism, in my opinion. There are far too many confounding variables involved in existentialist imperatives of creating your own meaning, or that you create meaning no matter whether you choose to or not, that I came to realize that trying to hold onto these beliefs was both exhausting and intellectually dishonest. I see no reason to believe anything means anything, or that "meaning" is anything we can make sense of except perhaps as an illusion we have about our connection to things outside ourselves.

Anyways, what I "get" out of my view is my own particular spin on it. Not everyone who is a nihilist is a depressive sack of shit, but in my point of view being a nihilist is quite frankly very relieving. Knowing that nothing matters and that you have no hope of making your life meaningful means I don't need to try in vain to do so, and can just live within the limits given to me as a human being. I can continue to do what I want knowing that I cannot change who I have been up until now and want beliefs and wants and whatnot have formed from that, but I can at least continue to live without taking anything too seriously and not letting myself become any more spooked and far gone like everyone else.

I'm going to present what I gain from nihilism in the form of an extended metaphor story.

In a vast physics sandbox pocket reality there exists a scrapyard filled with all the coolest scrap from all sorts of post-industrial age civilizations in other realities. In this scrapyard there exists a hill of scrap down which a bolt happened to roll and snag onto a fan which snagged on to a muffler which brought along a whole lot of other scrap, creating a ball of scrap. The hill was very steep, infinetely steep. At some point the ball of scrap became molten on the inside due to all the accumulated scrap, and at that that point it developed a very strong electromagnetic field, so strong in fact that as it rolled down the hill, it charged old devices. Fusion reactors overloaded all throughout the hills, distributing energy around as well. The entire scrapyard became glowing with electrical and radioactive activity. All this provided the perfect conditions for a particularly well insulated powerful computer with an ambient radiation to electricity array to undergo the changes it needed to undergo to erronously spawn a conciousness into the hellish depths of the scrapyard. Through the energy array the being was able to detect its outside world, using measures of ambient electricity for sight, and changes in gravity for hearing. It could detect everything in the whole scrapyard almost. But it had no spooks because there was no society around it, and nobody to say the place it was in was hellish or nice. The sentience processed shit and studied things, then eventually it became part of the mega-blackhole that the scrapyard turned into due to gravity.

A normie might say "well its clear that the existence of the sentience was completely meaningless and death was inevitable for it". They do not realize that they are the scrapyard and I am the sentience.

Please tell me how to become an optimist, I'm genuinely curious.

SORROW IN THE FACE OF ONTOLOGICAL AND/OR EPISTEMOLOGICAL FUTILITY IMPLIES AN INTRINSIC OPTIMISM.

JOY IN THE FACE OF ONTOLOGICAL AND/OR EPISTEMOLOGICAL FUTILITY IMPLIES AN INTRINSIC PESSIMISM.

REGARDING THE VULGAR IDIOM "IS THE GLASS HALF FULL, OR HALF EMPTY?", USED TO CURSORILY ASSESS A PERSON'S DISPOSITION AS EITHER OPTIMISTIC, OR PESSIMISTIC: THE UTILITARIAN PURPOSE OF GLASSES, OR CUPS, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF SIMILAR CONTAINER, IS TO CONTAIN LIQUID, THEREFORE THE OPTIMAL CONDITION FOR SUCH KIND OF CONTAINER IS TO BE AS FULL AS POSSIBLE, AND THE LEAST OPTIMAL CONDITION FOR SUCH KIND OF CONTAINER IS TO BE AS EMPTY AS POSSIBLE, THEREFORE THE SUPERLATIVELY OPTIMISTIC PRESUMED CONDITION WOULD BE A FULL GLASS, AND THE SUPERLATIVELY PESSIMISTIC PRESUMED CONDITION WOULD BE AN EMPTY GLASS, THEREFORE TO JUDGE A GLASS AS "HALF EMPTY" IS TO PRESUPPOSE AN IDEAL CONDITION OF FULLNESS, AND TO JUDGE A GLASS AS "HALF FULL" IS TO PRESUPPOSE AN IDEAL CONDITION OF EMPTINESS.

IT IS ONLY CONSEQUENTIAL THAT IN THE CURRENT DEGENERATED ERA, CHOOSING TO JUDGE A GLASS' CONDITION AS "HALF EMPTY" IS REGARDED AS IMPLYING A PESSIMISTIC DISPOSITION, AND TO JUDGE A GLASS' CONDITION AS "HALF FULL" REGARDED AS IMPLYING AN OPTIMISTIC DISPOSITION, BUT WHY IS THIS SO? BECAUSE MOST PERSONS NOW EITHER CONSCIOUSLY KNOW, OR UNCONSCIOUSLY INTUIT THAT OUR CURRENT EXISTENTIAL CONDITION AS A SPECIES IS ONE OF POSTTRAUMATIC SHOCK OR STRESS, LIVING IN INHERENTLY HOSTILE NATURAL CONDITIONS, WITHOUT MEMORY OF OUR ORIGIN, WITHOUT CONSCIOUS KNOWLEDGE OF OUR DESTINY, UNDER CONSTANT EITHER LATENT, OR MANIFEST, DREAD DERIVED FROM ONTOLOGICAL UNCERTAINTY; TO THE IGNOBLE, WHICH CONSTITUTE THE MAJORITY ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE IN THE CURRENT WORLD, SUCH CONDITION ENGENDERS A WORLDVIEW CONSISTING OF SEEING EVERY DEVELOPMENT OR PROCESS/SERIES OF EVENTS, AS NECESSARILY TRANSCURRING IN A LINEAR, EXPANSIVE, AND EVERPROGRESSIVE CONTINUUM, FROM THE SUBJACENT, MINIMUM, AND LOWLY, TO THE SUPERJACENT, MAXIMUM, AND LOFTY, THEREFORE THE “EMPTY GLASS” IS REGARDED BY THE IGNOBLE AS THE PRIMARY CONDITION, BUT THE NOBLE ONE REMEMBERS, AND KNOWS, THAT THE PRIMARY CONDITION IS ONE OF OPTIMALITY, AND THAT EVERY FLUCTUATION IN THE KOSMOS, AT ALL LEVELS, IS CYCLICAL AND SELFRECURSIVE, THEREFORE THE ILLUMINATED NOBLE ONES KNOW THAPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

lol retarded /pol/ack.

Nihilist Anarchism would be your answer.

>>803

Maybe ISIS so.

They are quite clear about willing for the apocalypse to come as fast as possible.

NS is the ideological manifestation of repressed homosexuality. Adi Shinkelgruber (Hitler) was Ernst Rohm's little twink - That's how he rose so quickly in the ranks of the Bavarian Socialist Workers Party (pre-NSDAP) despite being an infiltrator/military police informant. Later Rudolf Hess was Adi's bugger boy in jail after the beer hall putsch. Adi as chancellor visited the family of Richard Wagner and molested Wagner's grandson.

TL;DR:

homo-ethnic militancy = homo-sexual deviancy

I do it too man. Its the same sort of sport as watching an anime that has lots of feels in it. Sometimes sadness feels good. Fuck I wish I could be friends with those great people who off themselves.

>>805

There is a way you could meet them, anon, if believe in an afterlife at least.

>>762

>replying to a five-month-old post

Anyways, if you had on a deep level came to understand that literally nothing you do matters and that there is no reason to do one thing over another, you would then do exactly that: nothing. And that would lead to you expiring.

>>763

choosing to do nothing implies you should do or want to do nothing.

Life sucks, shitty job, tons of debts, gf sucks other guys dicks, life has no meaning

>>767

No it doesn't. You would not choose to do nothing so much as you would see no reason to do anything and therefore would do nothing.

Nothing is an empty constant. You cannot choose it or predicate anything on it.

>>772

well overcoming urges to move requires wanting nothing

As dumb as these are I actually kind of like them.

>>774

I agree

I want to not like these, but instead I kind of do

tell me how.

why not both?

grim and friendly go hand in hand

to accept grimness, which is so often reviled by normalfolk, is the mark of a truly nonjudgmental, ultimately friendly individual

it's like choosing to befriend that smelly weird kid everyone hates for reasons they can't put their finger on instead of hopping on the bandwagon and hating him just because you're supposed to

the ultimate act of acceptance

accepting that which is easily accepted means very little

>>727

Agreed. Being /grim/ doesn't mean being bad-mannered, a horrible individual or anything of that sort. One part negativity, one part being sombre and one part gloom.

One feeling, or behavioral trait does not negate the other. A gloomy person may very well love and respect his friends. Grim means lack of bias, and an overall clarity.

>>543

i still got >>403 open BO let us rejoice together in the mass suffering of death

>>620

Send me an email and we'll talk.

>>458

Zen views language as a barrier to enlightenment but ultimately wants to overcome, as with all streams of Buddhism, the suffering that life accords us. Nihilism accepts we are unable to do so.

>>451

What you are referring to is close in nature to the theory of the big chill. but due to hawking radiation, and under the assumption that gravity won't overpower the expansion of the universe (dark energy), all matter will eventually fuse into its most stable element (probably iron, give or take a few protons), and the universe will cool to absolute zero.

>>525

Use grammar, man

I know what you mean, sharp pain can be nice. Maybe you mean emotional pain though. That can be pretty good too. I had delusional paranoia for about maybe a month, it was pretty exciting.

This reminds me of notes from the underground, something like "i experience pain and i love the acute consciousness of my own degradation."

I think you'd have to just intentionally infect yourself with a deadly disease or eat something that can kill you but that could accidentally end up in your food if you want to make it look like an accident.

The problem with that, or some other form of suicide that could be made to look like an accident (I was thinking of maybe getting into a car wreck) is that you're probably going to end up having to choose something that may not be certain to succeed, or worse may leave you crippled for life or in debt (like a car wreck or disease could).

Why do you want to make it look like an accident anyways?

>>748

It's a dumb fear but I don't want to survive and have to deal with people being like "oh we're here for you blah blah"

Being pitied is the last thing I want

>>749

move to san francisco

get aids from a dirty needle

sign up for the fuckboys with aids welfare program which gives you: free (but not mandatory) healthcare, free food, free housing, free heating, everything free.

Neglect to take your meds, and die.

When people marry, its such a dumb thing to do. Just a stupid tradition. A self imposed limitation. It always brings me back at how absurd our culture is, worldwide.

>>703

Marriage is literally a tool it has no actual value whatsoever. It was first used by Kings and Nobility as a political thing then co opted by the Church to help them better control naive peasants and then again by Burgerland to keep the workers obligated to working for nothing

When people think they know someone, when we are actually all so complex that barely anyone deeply understands their own doing.

This can manifest in many ways, e.g. a colleague at work making fun about your choice of sunglasses, when actually you've got much more important stuff in your head right now.

Now, in turn one might think the guy laughing about your clothing is an awful person, but is it really their fault, especially if their environment indoctrinated them to believe these things are important?

Maybe the guy is trying to help you "wake up" and to do something good to you; to help you and doesn't know how else to do it. His intention was to show you how appearance enhances/ruins actual shallow people's picture of you.

Idk this example maybe didn't work out too well, but maybe someone here catches my drift. A lot of people interpret messages before the time is ripe. Maybe their minds are just designed like that because their parents never talked to them in complex structures when they were young, but, being annoyed, kept them silent with one-liners all the time, instead of allowing more developed thought patterns to build up.

Which leads us to a second thing that's rage-inducing: Bad parenting.

My own mind is pretty clouded at the moment, so I'm sorry for these clouded attempts for explanations.

Maybe at least someone can laugh about it.

>>738

I agree, I get the gist of it

I still have some business to take care of.

>>711

WORK NOT DONE

>>711

>I have a special plan for this world...

Would hurt a family member a lot

That's about it

I'm done here otherwise and anything further that happens to me is just another confusing distraction

Distraction from what? I don't know, I'm confused

>>89

Well, I grew up wanting to die.

Not necessarily dying (I think I was too young to understand that concept, we are talking memories from 3-5) but wanting to return to that state before you were born.

I don't necessarily believe in reincarnation, but reflecting on how I grew up thinking, I'm pretty sure we come into this world for a reason. But I'm not sure if its chosen for us, or if we choose it.

It fits because I remember thinking weird stuff as a kid, almost from an adult perspective.

"I didn't come to this world for the people. They are disgusting." Out of the blue, when I wasn't sad or angry at a birthday party with my family at the park.

"I came here for the flowers/trees/sunrise/reading" Still as a child, in memories those kind of things stick out.

I remember when I was four walking back from school with a friend. We were passing through the park, past a rose bush and a weird thought of "This is why I'm alive." My friend got annoyed and yelled at me to hurry up, pulling my arm away from the rose bush, and I remember crying, wishing I could have stayed longer with the flowers.

Its the weirdest shit. It was a vague kind of detachment from the world and horror that the longer I stayed alive and the older I grew, I'd become less attached to whatever it was before I was born, and more of this world.

Now that I am older, but not depressed, I still am drawn to die. I feel I can't go back until I read more though. I'll bide my time until my soul is satisfied.

Figures, if I came here just to read, I won't chance reincarnating for another shit life just to finish a chapter or book. Fuck that.