/grim/ - The End

Just dropping by here through /boards/

Is this place still active, and what was it originally about?

Is this board about 365/24/7 halloween? A Deathcult? Or nihilism, as this thread implies?

I guess I'll answer.

Becoming a nihilist is a rough process because I imagine most of us came from a background of being into existentialism, and maybe a lot of us also have depression or something that got us into those kinds of things in the first place. But most people who aren't religious but still have existential qualms seem to find a secular repose in existentialism and never bother to study philosophy any further. Being a student of philosophy myself, I came to learn that existentialism belongs to a specific point in history. A monumental culmination of human civilization and culture that happened in the beginning of the 20th century, the two world wars, that lead to the death of modernism and left the West very confused. It is my opinion that existentialism was forming beforehand by some particularly astute thinkers (Nietzsche and Kierkegaard) and taken up by the Existentialists themselves (Sartre, De Beauvoir, Heidegger to an extent) in the wake of that and phenomenology.

But anyways, existentialism died at the hand of postmodernism, in my opinion. There are far too many confounding variables involved in existentialist imperatives of creating your own meaning, or that you create meaning no matter whether you choose to or not, that I came to realize that trying to hold onto these beliefs was both exhausting and intellectually dishonest. I see no reason to believe anything means anything, or that "meaning" is anything we can make sense of except perhaps as an illusion we have about our connection to things outside ourselves.

Anyways, what I "get" out of my view is my own particular spin on it. Not everyone who is a nihilist is a depressive sack of shit, but in my point of view being a nihilist is quite frankly very relieving. Knowing that nothing matters and that you have no hope of making your life meaningful means I don't need to try in vain to do so, and can just live within the limits given to me as a human being. I can continue to do what I want knowing that I cannot change who I have been up until now and want beliefs and wants and whatnot have formed from that, but I can at least continue to live without taking anything too seriously and not letting myself become any more spooked and far gone like everyone else.

In my particular case, the problem is depression holding me back from wanting to do anything - as in, take action. There are things I'd like to do or see or learn, but getting up and putting in any work is hard. But I don't take medication or anything. Psychiatrists are just shills for big pharma, and you can't "treat" being sad and certainly can never cure it. I'm just trying to learn to live with it and hopefully do some shit that I want to do before I die since I'm here anyways.

But I think nihilism is far better for me than forcing myself to be happy or forcing myself to think positively. It just doesn't "jive" with who I am. Maybe it works for other people.

>>783

The board was fairly active during October and afterwards was getting at least a few posts a week before the server migration fucked its shit up pretty badly. A lot of boards seemed to suffer a loss in users from that though.

The board was originally I guess primarily for grim stuff general - which meant primarily nihilism, and also spooky skeltal funposting and horror and metal. I think the problem with it is that the board is both too niche and yet too ill-defined, and fills a need that isn't really there. It's more a pet project of mine in a sense, something that I wanted more than something that needed to be made. And either as a result or maybe in spite of my best efforts, it doesn't look like the board is really going to take off anytime soon. I can stream more movies sometime but I don't think that is going to be enough to create a stable community.

So yeah I'm not really sure what to do with the board now. Advertising it everywhere is useless.

I'm going to present what I gain from nihilism in the form of an extended metaphor story.

In a vast physics sandbox pocket reality there exists a scrapyard filled with all the coolest scrap from all sorts of post-industrial age civilizations in other realities. In this scrapyard there exists a hill of scrap down which a bolt happened to roll and snag onto a fan which snagged on to a muffler which brought along a whole lot of other scrap, creating a ball of scrap. The hill was very steep, infinetely steep. At some point the ball of scrap became molten on the inside due to all the accumulated scrap, and at that that point it developed a very strong electromagnetic field, so strong in fact that as it rolled down the hill, it charged old devices. Fusion reactors overloaded all throughout the hills, distributing energy around as well. The entire scrapyard became glowing with electrical and radioactive activity. All this provided the perfect conditions for a particularly well insulated powerful computer with an ambient radiation to electricity array to undergo the changes it needed to undergo to erronously spawn a conciousness into the hellish depths of the scrapyard. Through the energy array the being was able to detect its outside world, using measures of ambient electricity for sight, and changes in gravity for hearing. It could detect everything in the whole scrapyard almost. But it had no spooks because there was no society around it, and nobody to say the place it was in was hellish or nice. The sentience processed shit and studied things, then eventually it became part of the mega-blackhole that the scrapyard turned into due to gravity.

A normie might say "well its clear that the existence of the sentience was completely meaningless and death was inevitable for it". They do not realize that they are the scrapyard and I am the sentience.

Please tell me how to become an optimist, I'm genuinely curious.

SORROW IN THE FACE OF ONTOLOGICAL AND/OR EPISTEMOLOGICAL FUTILITY IMPLIES AN INTRINSIC OPTIMISM.

JOY IN THE FACE OF ONTOLOGICAL AND/OR EPISTEMOLOGICAL FUTILITY IMPLIES AN INTRINSIC PESSIMISM.

REGARDING THE VULGAR IDIOM "IS THE GLASS HALF FULL, OR HALF EMPTY?", USED TO CURSORILY ASSESS A PERSON'S DISPOSITION AS EITHER OPTIMISTIC, OR PESSIMISTIC: THE UTILITARIAN PURPOSE OF GLASSES, OR CUPS, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF SIMILAR CONTAINER, IS TO CONTAIN LIQUID, THEREFORE THE OPTIMAL CONDITION FOR SUCH KIND OF CONTAINER IS TO BE AS FULL AS POSSIBLE, AND THE LEAST OPTIMAL CONDITION FOR SUCH KIND OF CONTAINER IS TO BE AS EMPTY AS POSSIBLE, THEREFORE THE SUPERLATIVELY OPTIMISTIC PRESUMED CONDITION WOULD BE A FULL GLASS, AND THE SUPERLATIVELY PESSIMISTIC PRESUMED CONDITION WOULD BE AN EMPTY GLASS, THEREFORE TO JUDGE A GLASS AS "HALF EMPTY" IS TO PRESUPPOSE AN IDEAL CONDITION OF FULLNESS, AND TO JUDGE A GLASS AS "HALF FULL" IS TO PRESUPPOSE AN IDEAL CONDITION OF EMPTINESS.

IT IS ONLY CONSEQUENTIAL THAT IN THE CURRENT DEGENERATED ERA, CHOOSING TO JUDGE A GLASS' CONDITION AS "HALF EMPTY" IS REGARDED AS IMPLYING A PESSIMISTIC DISPOSITION, AND TO JUDGE A GLASS' CONDITION AS "HALF FULL" REGARDED AS IMPLYING AN OPTIMISTIC DISPOSITION, BUT WHY IS THIS SO? BECAUSE MOST PERSONS NOW EITHER CONSCIOUSLY KNOW, OR UNCONSCIOUSLY INTUIT THAT OUR CURRENT EXISTENTIAL CONDITION AS A SPECIES IS ONE OF POSTTRAUMATIC SHOCK OR STRESS, LIVING IN INHERENTLY HOSTILE NATURAL CONDITIONS, WITHOUT MEMORY OF OUR ORIGIN, WITHOUT CONSCIOUS KNOWLEDGE OF OUR DESTINY, UNDER CONSTANT EITHER LATENT, OR MANIFEST, DREAD DERIVED FROM ONTOLOGICAL UNCERTAINTY; TO THE IGNOBLE, WHICH CONSTITUTE THE MAJORITY ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE IN THE CURRENT WORLD, SUCH CONDITION ENGENDERS A WORLDVIEW CONSISTING OF SEEING EVERY DEVELOPMENT OR PROCESS/SERIES OF EVENTS, AS NECESSARILY TRANSCURRING IN A LINEAR, EXPANSIVE, AND EVERPROGRESSIVE CONTINUUM, FROM THE SUBJACENT, MINIMUM, AND LOWLY, TO THE SUPERJACENT, MAXIMUM, AND LOFTY, THEREFORE THE “EMPTY GLASS” IS REGARDED BY THE IGNOBLE AS THE PRIMARY CONDITION, BUT THE NOBLE ONE REMEMBERS, AND KNOWS, THAT THE PRIMARY CONDITION IS ONE OF OPTIMALITY, AND THAT EVERY FLUCTUATION IN THE KOSMOS, AT ALL LEVELS, IS CYCLICAL AND SELFRECURSIVE, THEREFORE THE ILLUMINATED NOBLE ONES KNOW THAT ULTIMATELY THE “GLASS” IS NEITHER “HALF FULL”, NOR “HALF EMPTY”, BUT “IN MOTION”.