No.1634
Any thoughts about HOI IV?
No.1636
New semi-transparent mapmode looks pretty nice.
No.1637
I actually hope it gets a bit casualized, I have given up on learning HoI3
No.1638
>>1637Goddamnit, HoI3 is not complicated. Paradox just sucks at making Tutorials and an acceptable interface.
Why do they have to be so inept? Instead of making the games more accessible, they just fucking dumb it down until it's self explanatory. It's painful to look at.
No.1641
More effort probably went into that April Fools dev diary than anything in the actual game.
No.1654
>>1638>wahh people arent making games exactly how i lke themseriously if you dont like ho4 just play hoi3
No.1697
>>1654we're just upset that they're ruining an opportunity at making a great game to make a quick dollar off of casuals who will play it for 40-50 hours then never touch it again.
No.1698
It's going to be horrible
No.1701
All we needed was HoI3 with an AI that wasn't shit, a supply system that wasn't pants on head retarded, and some general refinement of balance and shit.
Now we gotta appeal to the CoD EU4 crowd.
No.1751
>>1634Oh god what the fuck
I seriously hope there isn't dog-mana
Please tell me this image is a joke
No.1757
>>1751I can't even tell if it's real or not with the amount of bullshit paradox releases.
For example, the
bug "feature" that climate follows political borders. So as Russia invades Germany, it brings winter with them.
No.1764
No.1775
>>1757NEW BIOLOGICAL WEAPON DEVELOPED BY THE SOVIET, COMRADE !
No.1796
>>1757>climate based on political borders instead of geographyare
is that a joke
No.1802
I like EU3, DH and HoI3 but I just can't fucking play them anymore due to the lack of any control of the camera. EU4 is almost playable with mods so unless
>>1757 is some hardcoded shit it might be okay.
No.1852
>>1757I call bullshit. Need source.
No.1872
>>1757MFW Soviets have perfected weather technology.
No.1955
>>1757>So as Russia invades Germany, it brings winter with them.How do you even fuck up that badly?
No.1958
No counters, no purchase.
No.1976
>>1757What the actual fuck
Do you have any proofs for that?
No.1979
"Johan, nobody uses terrain map mode"
"Fuck them"
No.1985
We should do a Kickstarter to hire a hitman to kill Johan.
No.2008
I hate how this game is guaranteed to be absolute shit and it isn't even released yet
No.2009
>>2008>that 4th gifDid paradox release that?
No.2010
>>2009Naw, it's the Maski show [russian]
No.2018
>>1757Springtime for Hitler confirmed
No.2031
I am convinced the peak of the genre for now will be HoI3 TFH w/ WW1 mod — it'll be a long time before anything is released that can compete
No.2038
>>2035Don't you know all we want is a sandbox m8? :^)
No.2042
>>2038What is the point of having France? they just sit on their asses till they get annexed by Germany.
kek
No.2043
Seems so casual. Also they are taking out the counters so they can jew out more of those soldier sprite packs.
No.2089
>>1698holy shit
that map looks awful.
are those units devisions?
No.2090
>>1698>Florence is shown as a huge city>Milan is depicted as a single factory No.2091
>>2008>Is ruled by the Democracy party>Democracy partyWe all knew there were only going to be three parties, but what the fuck. Democracy Party? And it's named SPD. Because SPD were the only ones who had the balls to stand up for democracy against the nazis.
No.2445
>>1634So… anyone got the latest build? the only one I've played was the one leaked a long time ago.
No.2447
>>2446>>2091>implying NatSocs were evil>implying NatSocs were evil>implying NatSocs were evil No.2448
>>2445why would you want to try hoi4
No.2449
>>2448F-f-for science, you know
No.2471
>>2090No I think Milan is to the left of the factory and partially covered by clouds.
No.2496
>>1638>Goddamnit, HoI3 is not complicatedyeah which is why i have to watch hours of video just to understand a concept which i still don't understand fully. i'm actually reading the 87 paged manual from cover to cover to get a better understanding of this game and yet i still don't get why my brazilian troops aren't getting their supplies. i have played the game for many hours and still can't understand a lot of it
No.2499
>>2496> i'm actually reading the 87 paged manual from cover to cover to get a better understanding of this game and yet i still don't get why my brazilian troops aren't getting their supplies.Because your infrastructure is shit, why are you playing a useless nation?
No.2500
>>2496A lot of the bullshit isn't even really necessary to understand to be able to play. There are a ton of little quirks like weather and that sort of shit that you can ignore and still get along perfectly fine.
No.2503
>>2500>not leaving everything to the AI No.2514
>>2499there's no infrastructure on the ocean. my complaint was that i could travel anywhere as germany (across the ocean) and my troops would be in full supplied but when i play as brazil i can not move 1 square off of the land without getting a warning message that my troops have no supplies
No.2515
>>2514Brazil's infrastructure is still shit, and you must not have enough convoys going to the area, supply AI is fucking retarded. if all else fails, airdropping supplies in important hubs never fails me when I need the AI to get fucking supplies immediately instead of hoping they distribute shit correctly
Then again, brazil is nearly worthless, why are you invading it as Germany? You should've either influenced them to join the axis, or left them alone, they wouldn't just join the allies for no reason
No.2536
>>2515>airdropping supplies in important hubsayyy lmao planes can't fly across the ocean from brazil to portugal
>why are you invading it as Germany?no this is a new campaign where i am playing as brazil. brazil can't move 1 square off of the coast without starving to death whereas in my german campaign i could travel from germany to japan by sea with no complaints
i don't know what the fuck is wrong with this game. i try setting up a new supply route but the game won't let me choose the port in portugal where my troops are since i don't own the land, although i do have portugal's permission to station my troops there. although with germany i could have supplies delivered anywhere whether i owned the territory or if i were invading it. maybe it is just a bug. i don't have the latest release of hoi3
No.2855
>>2445Yeah, where would one find a build of any kind to play around with?
No.2875
>>2008>south italy>EthiopiaHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA shit dude, I'm italian and that a typical joke we make on souther people, like Sicily it's part of Tunisia and Emirates Naples united or CalaAfrica
Amazing
No.2949
>>2875yeah I got that joke too, and im not italian
No.2950
No.2953
>>2875anon, it's because ethiopia actually conquered them in the dev playthrough
No.2968
>>2953How the hell did Ethiopia cross the Mediterranean?
No.2971
>>2968Because their dev version of HoI4 is a broken piece of shit and it's unlikely they will ever fix the AI, because they never do.
No.2974
>>2968something about the naval system being 'incomplete' aka broken and I don't think you need dedicated transports to move troops overseas
It might also have something to do with the entire combat system not actually existing on a brigade level and the game in general being based on not-thought-out mechanics, this is what you get
No.3050
Soooo I shouldn't hype for this game? Damn I really wanted an upgrade for HOI3
No.3051
>>1634>memes>casualization to the point of unplayability>General Winter actually exists and brings winter with him wherever Russia expandsGee, I wonder.
No.3054
>>3051>dont care of maymay>where it's more casual?>really? God damnit paradox! When you will actually study historywhat bother me most is that I can't have a nazi flag in the command but the portrait of glorious hitler it's oki understand that could offend jew and it's prohibitten in Germany, but God fucking damit! It's an historical game No.3062
>>2536NOT
ENOUGH
SUPPLY
CONVOYS
No.3063
>>2091Look at the image again.
No.3065
>>3062how the hell are supply convoys going to deliver supplies to a traveling ship?
i downloaded the dlc and everything works fine now
No.3080
>>3065In Black Ice, naval underway replenishment gives the ship greater range.
No.3226
>>3054> it's prohibitten in GermanyIt's prohibitten in a lot more countries than just Germany. Paradox does actually want to sell the game you now. It's also literally just replacing a file to mod it in you scrub.
No.3238
>>2018Winter for Poland and France
No.3311
>>3226
>implying i know how
im a preistorich with tech anon its a miracle i know how to add mods
No.3412
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Anyone see the new dev diary?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-developer-diary-16-world-tension.854923/
More quality. This is going to be a shitfest.
>Artificial limit to entire world
Note how it's 1936 and we're 23.6% on the way to WW2 by virtue of Spain and Italy adding tension. Can only imagine the % tension for when Japan annexes le ebin uberchina.
Welcome to the new generation of Paradox games: outright artificial limitations taken right out of EU4 [I'm thinking OE by base tax is the same general formula being used here] and feature strips before your eyes
No.3437
>>3412
Well its looks like another nofun mechanism.
just like neutrality in HOI 3
No.3443
>>3412
How about an actually historical game, Paradox?
Demand Poland hold a referendum in the stolen lands.
If they refuse (they probably will; small probability they won’t), that’s when Poland starts a genocide of Germans.
That gives Germany the casus belli to invade.
No.3444
>>3412
From that thread:
>It seems like a nice representation of reality.
Kill this man.
No.3446
>>3437
Atleast Neutrality is a thing that actually exists and can be justified in the era. What the fuck is world tension? Does this mean if a player-controlled Japan can make the entire fucking world implode by virtue of annexing its economic sphere? It's retarded and doesn't make any sense.
Let's see how they plan it will work:
>World Tension works as a limiter on certain actions, depending on your country’s setup and ideology. So a nation like USA, which has special internal country circumstances modeled as well to make entry into a world war harder requires something like 100% tension to join a faction. To compare a non-aligned nations like Poland need only a 40% world tension to be able to join factions. Like the USA there are also other nations who have embraced a policy of neutrality or isolationism, like Sweden or Switzerland, these nations generally need to work through chains of National Focuses to remove these limitations.
>For fascist expansionist powers World Tension is your enemy. You'll want to make sure you time your actions so that it doesn’t bring tension over limits where democracies are free to move in and stop you and let the tension decay, of course being a global value there may be other forces at work in the world so being able to do a diplomatic limbo dance might be harder than it sounds and you might find that stuff heats up a lot faster than you are prepared for. World Tension is also something that can be bypassed through special treaties and such set up through National Focuses, but these are generally country specific solutions and we will look at those in more detail when we cover each nation’s Focus choices.
Note how this means that Brazil annexing something will mean the USA will be closer to joining the 'world war' and.. other people would join factions sooner. This is fucking retarded.
sorry if it seems I'm directing this at you, just get worked up complaining about this desecration of a WW2 wargame
No.3448
>>1638
>Goddamnit, HoI3 is not complicated.
But it sure is annoying. It can take hours just to set your CoC if you play a big country.
No.3449
>>3446
World tension sounds like something that would make more sense in a Cold War game, a mechanic similar to Twilight Struggle's DEFCON track that encourages brinksmanship with mostly-beneficial effects as you go closer to war (in Twilight Struggle, DEFCON keeps Europe and Asia stable, the Middle East a little less stable, and makes battlegrounds in general strongpoints), but a risk as both superpowers push the limit and risk all-out devastation.
Tension in regions (ex. one for each continent) might make sense, with a small amount of tension bleeding into areas with strong ties, like the war in Europe making the USA a bit nervous. But a straight-up "world tension" thing doesn't make much sense when, for the most part, the whole world didn't blow up at once.
No.3468
>>3449
>World tension sounds like something that would make more sense in a Cold War game
East vs. West as DLC confirmed, then?
No.3469
>>3468
It was confirmed all along, I think. I'm willing to bet they'll also make a WW1 DLC and later an interwar DLC.
No.3478
>HoI3 is my most-played GS game
>I got scary good at it, then got bored after repeatedly conquering continents with weak minors
>even made a guide for HoI3
>got RandomHoI, still having fun with the mod to this day
>HoI4 announced
>looks like shit, but it's just an alpha right
>each dev diary is pushing it more and more to be EU4 in 1936
>I keep telling myself at least I'll finally be able to mod a HoI game without becoming a wizard
>but every appearance is showing that HoI4 will be an unfixable piece of shit like EU4 is
Month 1 pirate, maybe. For now I'll go back to pissing about in RandomHoI3 and Kaiserreich.
No.3500
>>1638
>Why do they have to be so inept? Instead of making the games more accessible, they just fucking dumb it down until it's self explanatory. It's painful to look at.
Despite my fears of dumbing down HOI4, they seem to have balanced the game well regarding accessibility vs complexity. I hate that they removed OOBs, but let's face it: OOBs were a nightmare to get right. I just hope there will be a way to structure your units without losing track of everything.
>>1757
Well, there's still time before release, so let's hope they change this shit.
>>3468
That's what I'm thinking too. They've had several screenshots with nukes appearing on the interface, which makes sense in a Cold War game, but not in a WW2 game.
>>3478
They've only covered relatively superficial aspects until now. I'm more interested in the finer details, which is where the nuance and finer strategy will come in.
No.3501
>>3443
>stolen lands.
Do you have any proofs to back up this statement?
No.3503
>>3501
Daily reminder that Pilsudski did nothing wrong
No.3505
>>3503
Yes he did he died too soonif he lived longer probably poland would agree on german terms and would join axis
No.3507
>>3505
RIP Pilsudski, nationalist socialist before it was cool.
Going on a longshot here, you wouldn't happen to know where I might find a cheap/free copy of Rok 1920, would you? I got a copy of Pilsudki's other book of collected writings for like 3 bucks, but Rok 1920 is much more expensive for some reason. I can't find any pdfs of it eithe.
No.3510
>>3507
Here is the cheapest copy that i could find
http://allegro.pl/rok-1920-pilsudski-jozef-i5286437798.html
Are you from Poland btw?
No.3516
>>3510
Nah, I'm a burger. I should have specified, I meant an english-translated copy of the book. I know they exist, they're just expensive as hell. I was especially interested because it contains Tukhachevsky's writings from the war as well. Oh well, thanks for looking anyway.
No.3888
>>1757
well, if that's true, assuming not since you don't have a source, winter is literally coming.
It's a game of thrones reference for dumbnuts
No.3890
>>1654
>I hate grand strategy games
>I hope they casualize them to shit so I can play them
Maybe the games just aren't for you, faggot.
No.3891
>>1757
>not wanting to play as winter
No.3892
>>2035
What? Facists love communism. Look at North Korean or the USSR.
No.3893
>>3051
What are the memes they are putting in?
No.3894
>>3412
>outright artificial limitations taken right out of EU4
Can you explain what you mean? Haven't touched EU4.
No.3896
>>3412
>When we last talked about parties and ideologies there were only 3 ideological leanings for countries: Democratic, Fascist and Communist. After some playing we felt this was too constraining, so we have added a 4th group we call Neutral.
There are no words in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Man for this treachery.
No.3897
>>3896
The fuck. Neutral doesn't even make sense there.
No.3920
>>3226
why not make a version for third world orwellian shitholes that ban freedom of expression and a version for countries that like freedom?
because that would take effort on paradox's part
No.3926
>>3920
Because not many people would actually buy the "version for countries that like freedom". Seriously I think most "gamers" would get "offended" at the sight of a swastika.
No.3927
>>1757
Please don't be true
No.3928
>>2496
I devoted 3 days to it and still couldn't grasp it. There's so many tiny variables. I don't even understand what I should set to AI, like people say set tech research to AI and others don't, but you'll only know what to choose if you've played before.
No.3937
>>3926
Not even hardline SJWs would have an issue with swastika in a game about WWII.
Hardline SJWs should have an issue with Paracuck ignoring nazi crimes in the HoI series if anything.
No.3948
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Surprised that the new footage from the Youtube shills they flew over to play the game hasn't shown up here yet.
No.3953
>>3948
>0:29
At least the made Mussolini look badass
No.3958
>>3949
is sad that he is the only guy that plays gsg on jewtube.
i had to watch shenryy "blobmaster" to learn the game
No.3959
>>3953
>implying that he wasnt
AL MURO!
No.3960
>>3958
What about arumba and Kailvin?
No.3961
>>3960
IMO arumba it save itself a little
never heard of kailvin….is he good?
No.3962
>>3961
>is he good?
He is arrogant but he knows how to play vicky 2.
No.3963
>>3961
He's a self-diagnosed sociopath and an edgelord, but he does know how to play Vicky 2, unlike most other LPers whose first GS was CK2.
No.3975
>>3958
I regularly go to bed with some shenryyr let'splay on. Can't help it, it luls me to sleep in such a nice manner.
No.3985
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>>1634
I just now noticed this, doesn't that icon in the UI top bar look an awful lot like the Ingsoc logo?
No.3986
>>3892
>nat-soc
>liking USSR
choose one
No.3989
>>3985
Kinda. I assume it is some diplomacy button, so shaking hands isn't that weird. But, this is Paradicks so I could see them doing that.
No.3995
>>3986
>What is Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
No.3996
>>3995
>Hurrdurr having a non-aggression pact means you want to suck their dicks
Fuck off.
No.4002
>>3986
>>3996
Not NatSoc, he said fascism. Fascism's roots are in communism and Marxism, Mussolini and the Italian Fascists had major ties with the USSR.
National Socialism is a form of Fascism, but you'd have to be ignorant to interchange the two terms as if they were the same.
There was a huge article listing the reasons why Fascism was birthed from Marxism. I don't have a link, but I'll fetch it for you if you want it.
No.4003
No.4018
>>4003
His point still holds, what about the alliance between the USSR and US later on?
No.4023
>>3995
>what is the last resort after trying to get an alliance with Britain, France, and Poland against the commies
No.4024
>>3501
germany had to give up land after the first world war
No.4025
>>4024
It got them from dividing up Poland-Lithuania with Austria and Russia in the first place.
No.4027
No.4030
No.4037
>>3443
>Genocide of Germans
>Mfw this guy actually believes Nazi Propaganda
>Mfw he doesn't realize the German's were caught red handed more or less forcing a casus belli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1939)
No.4043
>>4037
It happened and was later used by Nazi Propaganda, also
>trustworthy commercial managerpedia
No.4044
>>4027
Places like Danzig and Ermland had a German majority already before the partitions, so it was only legitimate German land.
No.4045
>>4044
And Lausitz have Sorbs majority
So what?
>so it was only legitimate German land.
Why? It was multinational city. Its more complicated than shouting
>POLES ARE CLAY STEALERS, ADOLF DID NOTHING WRONG
No.4046
>>4037
>trusting SJWpedia
Anyway, it happened, at worst, the NAZIs exaggerated what happened.
No.4048
>>3446
The most retarded thing about that pic is that you can straight up trade civilian factories for troops. making the hit to military factories pointless
No.4058
>>4044
Prussia was originally a Polish vassal.
No.4059
No.4061
>>4059
Not so. If you'll take a look at these haplogroups, you can see that Germanic line never settled in Prussia at all, and it was, in fact, a Slavic territory, making thr Germans the clay stealers.
No.4062
>>4061
>timeline around 2k BC
>still shows migratory arrows towards Prussia
No.4065
Seriously, where is the leaked version? cuckchan's /gsg/ had when it was first released.
No.4068
>>4061
>>4062
Pic related.
Also, in 2500 bc the slavs were still in the Area of Ruthenia.
>>4058
No. It was after the Teutonic Order was reformed into the Duchy of Prussia.
>B-But the Teutonic order was polish
It literally had Teutonic which comes from the German way of saying German.
No.4086
Looks like flag swaps are in.
No.4125
>>4068
>B-But the Teutonic order was polish
It never was polish and nobody said that
But they have been invited by polish prince and then back stabbed him instead of fighting pagans
No.4134
Today i had a beautiful dream.
Dream about colaboration of Paradox and Eugen Systems
A game like Hearts of Iron but you get to chose if you want battles auto solved or manualy command you divisions just like in wargame red dragon or european escalation.
No.4135
>>4134
>Victoria 2 campaign mode
>Total war fighting
No.4136
>>4134
>HOI3 plays like a medal of honor or a sniper elite
>EUIV/CK2 will play like a total war or a mount&blade
No.4160
>>4134
>>4135
>>4136
Honestly, my all time dream game consists of these ideas.
>any grand strategy game
>battles give players the option to command them Total War style
>you can also take control of an individual soldier and fight Mount & Blade style or Medal of Honor style depending on the time period
Just imagine:
>Darkest Hour with the ability to enter the eastern front as a soldier
>Victoria II with the ability to fight colonial battles manually
>CK2 with the ability to personally play as your ruler, leading your men into battle
>these games will never be real
No.4162
>>4160
>playing as a soldier with red orchestra gunplay
Maybe such games will exist in 40 years
No.4164
>>4160
>this dream
anon are you me?
if i know jack shit of coding i would like to try makeing it
No.4166
>>4164
The power of autism can unite our skills and make Totar Universalis: Hearts of Crusader MOunt and Blade of Honour
No.4260
>>4134
Something like Hearts of Iron/Victoria + Combat Mission
I would become the biggest NEET if that happened.
No.4270
>>4160
Honestly, sounds like a waste of resources.
I mean, having the total war or mount and blade style combat as an option is fine, but having both is stupid.
It would be better for the devs to focus on one style or the other to make it really good than to have them split between the two options.
They'd have to balance for each option too. I mean, the top view would give you access to much more information than the FPP option.
Really, for something like that the best option may be more of a you control some guy while fighting, but to issue commands you zoom out to an overworld map. Essentially merging the two, which means they don't have to worry about two completely different styles of gameplay.
Pretty sure this is incorporated into some games, though I don't believe any grand strategies.
No.4322
Is this piece of shit at least going to be moddable so it can be fixed or not?
No.4324
>>4322
Probably just as any other paradox game
No.4327
>>4322
It will have paid mods
No.4740
>>1757
>>2008
>>3412
Great news everyone!
No.4812
>>3949
I don't understand why this guy is so popular or why Paradox devs even give him the time of day.
He is absolutely awful at every GSG he's ever played. He constantly makes the same mistakes all the time, never learning. So fucking dense.
No.4824
>>4812
Because he makes videos to entertain his autistic fans, enabling them to buy Paradox's Jewry.
He's free advertising basically.
No.4826
>>4824
but arumba is fucking 1000 better than him…..
No.4834
>>4824
There is no reason he is so popular though. As I wrote, he sucks at every single GSG he plays. Maybe even every single game.
No.4837
>>4826
0 times 1000 is still 0 bro
>>4834
I'm telling you why he's getting dev attention. I have no idea why he's popular.
No.4843
>>4837
dude, arumba is top scale at almost any paracock games….he is that kind of an autistic player that will make a spread sheet showing how increasing the port to lv1 is better than upgrading the mill to lv 5
No.4845
No.4866
No.4883
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Did you watched World War Wednesday on a ParadoxExtra?
They fucking decided to savescum because Poland accepted "Danzig or war" event
No.4884
>>4883
They said they wanted a world war, so Poland cucked them by complying.
It goes to show that they may have to tweak the historical route a little, so you can ensure that Poland doesn't back down. But I think it's actually a positive show, since Johan didn't actively back up Poland after the annexation of the Czechs. Poland only ever went to war with Germany because they were sure they'd have back-up from the Allies, and that Germany didn't have a full military structure yet. So if you play ahistorically, and Britain and France don't fuck with you, you should be able to "win" without starting an all-out world war.
So far I'm positively surprised by their decision / policy system. And the international tension thing seems like a good mechanic too, though it's probably completely fucked, and will need a DLC or a mod to work correctly.
I'm still apprehensive about the unit and combat mechanics, but they haven't shown all that much of that yet. If the theater management is easier than HoI3 without watering down strategic decisions, then I'll embrace this game as a much needed sequel. Based solely on how my HoI3 campaigns got derailed by my inability to consistently spend 20 minutes on managing my Eastern Frontline, just to progress a week, and then reassign orders based on which battles went well and which stalled.
No.4886
No.4887
>>4884
>They have to tweak a little
Fuck you.. This game is already railroaded to the max, we need more freedom to have different outcomes every time
No.4889
>>4887
>railroaded to the max
Comepared to what?
Honestly, the fact that you can demand Danzig from Poland and actually get it peacefully, is more than I've ever seen in HoI3, where Germany is always forced to fight when Danzig or War happens. There is a threshold for how much threat Germany is allowed to have, before the Allies preemptively strike. And the USSR always attacks Germany if London falls.
From my understanding HoI4 will have a lot more space for deviating from the historical line, compared to HoI3.
And I just want a way to ensure the historical outcome of foreign policy, so you CAN go the historical route every time, if you so please.
Also, refrain from insulting other, you spastic fine African-American gentleman fuckboy, it doesn't help your argument, nor the interest of others in participating in discussion on this dead board.
No.4890
>>4887
yeah its super railroaded dude
No.4898
>>4889
>he wants a game that keeps your hand constanty
>he wants a game that no matter what it always be the same outcome instead of seeing a peaceful germany and a out of the way aggressive spain
>he get trigged by insults on a dead board on a chan
No.4899
>>4890
hoi4 is less railroaded than hoi3. this is a good thing, in hoi3 you coulnd in any way let the usa get into the axis
No.4900
>>4898
>Implying that removing sperglord unit micromanagement makes a serious impact on the quality of a GRAND strategy game
>Implying I ever wanted them to remove alternate paths
>Implying having a civil disposition to arguing is a detriment to an imageboard based on discussion
No.4901
>>4900 (checked)
>he ask for more railroaded history where is impossible to have a different outcome
>complains when I complain of his shit opinion
>really think that a discussion on a chan to be good have to be clean of slurs and racial/sexual diminishment
I'm not asking a Sunset invasion type of game. But at least something that will make interesting playing it again because it make weird scenarios
Example:
ck2 can let most of Europe grow big with the right situation or let Norse conquer the shit out of anyone if there is too much internal Christian wars
eu4 if France win the 100y war get 100 points of AE or if using a Japanese daimyo you cant conquer more than 50% of Japanese otherwise coalition pop out as mushrooms after a rain
What would you prefer to play you god damn faggot fine African-American gentleman?
No.4943
No.4953
>>4901
it has plenty of divergence you doofus
No.5028
>>4812
Same reason Game Grumps got to play Civ 5 with the Brave New World expansion even though they can't make it through Wind Waker without looking at a guide every two seconds; bitching and moaning all the way: They can't afford Pewdie Pie.