/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Great idea, bro! Would be happy to test it, I do want this to be made.

>>1706
>>Every Chalcedonian character has either a "Latin Rites" or "Greek Rites" trait, which symbolises which set of Rites they use, Latin Rites being the Rites followed by Greek Christians and Latin Rites being the official Rites of the Church.
you butchered that

Anyway, opinions:
Shouldn't the visigoths be arian/partially arian? If not at least a few arian provinces might make things fun.

Not a single pagan/heretic province in the chalcedonian world might make things too easy for catholics.

I'd love to see a "byzantine influence" in kingdoms (or even in single provinces) so not only the byzzies will go iconoclast.

Would province modifiers work better than traits? They could represent influence of different cults over the people and they would let the player/AI actually choose what to do, with repercussions if they go against their will.

Lovin' the idea, thou, I just feel it might turn out too deterministic.

>>1709
>you butchered that
sorry a bit tired.
basically every Chalcedonian character has one of two traits, Latin Rites or Greek Rites. Latin Rites will cause the character to become Catholic during the Schism, and Greek Rites will cause the character to become Orthodox.

>Shouldn't the visigoths be arian/partially arian?
the visigoths at that time weren't arians, they were about 300 or 400 years before that date, but the north African provinces should be Arian. I'll just make Arianism a heresy.

>byzantine influence
I've been seriously considering this. I think it should be a province modifier to determine if the province will become Catholic or Orthodox, but the trait should determine if the character becomes Catholic or Orthodox. also there is an decision you can take to change from Latin to Greek Rites, and the AI will only do it if moral authority and their relationship with the pope drops low enough.

It might be a little railroaded, I mean there are only two things that could happen, either the schism occurs or it doesn't. if you are the Byzantine Emperor you should be able to do either fairly easily.

>>1711
I guess the rites trait should heavily affect your relations with the emperor. A strong emperor might get more people to stand by orthodoxy, or catholicism to get away from him politically.

Church laws could also be useful to determine if the character becomes catholic or orthodox, or even heretic.

Have you thought about other would-be-schisms? Like the pope giving "autonomy" to lollards or cathars, a la coptic.

>>1708
sure, as soon as it's playable I'll let a few of you test it out.

>>1712
btw thanks for the help

Bump for interest

>>1720
Might also interesting to disband the Second Nicean council or prevent the schism.

I've just updated ck2 with way of life, and there's no problems so far. sorry about not posting much, but I'm still working on this.

>>1781
if you're the Byzantine Emperor, you can choose to ignore the demand of the Pope. it will give you a piety and prestige hit but you can remain Iconoclast.

Ok guys, the mod is nearly complete. I'm just doing a bit of testing to make sure there's no fuckups. my plan was to get it out for the new year, sorry for being so overdue I am doing it for free

I love this! I was disappointed in the lack of schism-simulating events.

>>2013
Wonderful, this is just what I've been waiting on to get back into ck2.

This looks pretty great.

>>1711
> but the north African provinces should be Arian

The Arianization of Roman North Africa was cut short and reversed by the 6th-century Byzantine reconquest; in fact all Vandals had been expelled from Roman Africa by the late 530s, leaving the Latin-speaking Afro-Roman and Berber populations (both Chalcedonian) behind.

Conant's book "Staying Roman" has a good and wide-ranging discussion of the conditions in Roman North Africa from the Vandal conquest up to the eve of Islam in the region.

This looks great!

Does anyone know where I can find any of these mods?

Sorcery Mod
Way of Lewd
Punish Your Wives
Torture Mod
[VS] Flat Map

I haven't had any luck so far.

>>1706

I need this. When will it be ready?