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PDS announces Stellaris Johan 08/07/15 (Fri) 12:06:31 No.4361

Paradox just announced Stellaris, a real time strategy game in space (a 4X from the looks of it). I had hoped for something historic, but perhaps I'll be turned around if the gameplay looks promising. The game is to be released in February 2016. What do you think, is PDS making a mistake by departing from the safe confines of history?

Johan 08/07/15 (Fri) 12:28:30 No.4364

Looks bretty intredasting

Johan 08/07/15 (Fri) 15:52:59 No.4365

I think it will be cool to have a new version of Distant Worlds.

We will see how it goes. I was hoping for Vicky 3, but we all know that will never happen.

Johan 08/07/15 (Fri) 15:56:23 No.4366

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>>4365

>I was hoping for Vicky 3, but we all know that will never happen.

I think that's for the better, anon. Seeing how shitty HOI4 is turning out to be, wouldn't want to see how they would fuck up a potential Victoria 3.

Johan 08/07/15 (Fri) 22:48:29 No.4367

>>4366

Didn't the guy who coded the economy system in Vicky 2 leave?

I really hope they never make Vicky 3.

Johan 08/08/15 (Sat) 02:39:49 No.4368

>>4367

>Didn't the guy who coded the economy system in Vicky 2 leave?

That's what I heard a while back from some fag on either this board or some /gsg/ thread on /v/.

Now whether that's true, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Johan 08/08/15 (Sat) 09:29:11 No.4369

>>4367

Johan has said that Vic3 won't be made until the game has an "internal champion" within the company, which there's not at present. Of course, the company wouldn't admit to having such a champion until announcement day.

Johan 08/08/15 (Sat) 15:11:48 No.4370

>>4365

The target audience doesn't care about the 19th century, the game wouldn't sell well enough

:^)

Johan 08/08/15 (Sat) 15:43:28 No.4373

>>4370

That's why they're making a space game instead :DDD

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 07:01:07 No.4388

Just waiting for the 6 major DLCs and 20 or so music packs with 5000 model packs.

Seriously though:

>2015.

>Still believing that Parajew is gonna make something that isn't casualized shit for babies.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 08:00:09 No.4389

>>4388

They said it will be easy for new players to get into, unlike EU4 and CK2. I am not kidding.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 14:26:14 No.4392

>>4389

But CK2 and EU4 are easy to get into.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 16:05:32 No.4393

>>4392

Yeah, but that's what Johan said.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 17:41:45 No.4394

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>>4389

pls no

I had hoped this dumbing down of late was caused by Podcat, and that there were still some guys left in PDS to keep the hardcore gamers in mind. Are we doomed to suffer terrible graphics and TBS from fucking Matrix now?

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 20:31:09 No.4395

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>>4394

>grand strategy

>complaining about graphics

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 21:01:29 No.4396

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>>4395

I'll choose mechanics/gameplay over graphics any time, yet claiming that graphics count for nothing is silly. Of course I would rather look at a top notch UI and a nice high resolution map, than a panel from the 90's and a 2D map with square tiles. If you say you wouldn't, you're only fooling yourself.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 22:02:14 No.4397

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>>4396

>EU IV graphical upgrade compared to previous Paradox game

>Anon says new IP is like EU IV

>"suffer terrible graphics"

>I like graphical upgrades.

okay anon.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 22:06:45 No.4398

>>4396

>2D map with square tiles is graphical

No, that's a gameplay change.

Johan 08/10/15 (Mon) 22:47:23 No.4399

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>>4397

You're dragging statements out of your arse. EUIV looks terrible, but you can't argue against the fact that Paradox games look a thousand times more pleasing than any Matrix game.

>>4398

Not if the gameplay stays the same with a 3D map, and the tiles only are carved more "naturally", but otherwise serve as squares.

Johan 08/11/15 (Tue) 01:45:34 No.4400

>>4399

I'm dragging statements from what you said:

>>4394

Here you seem >imply that anything that follows in the way of CK2 and EU4 "suffer from terrible graphics" even though EU4 is objectively better because it has things like detailed units, realtime lighting, and 3D terrain mapping.

But then here >>4396 you say that graphics are important.

So really, you're just confusing everything.

If I play a grand strategy game, graphics are the last thing I'm thinking about.

Johan 08/11/15 (Tue) 06:31:50 No.4405

I'm worried there'll be too much spore/civ bullshit in this game and it'll take away from the GSG aspects/.

Johan 08/11/15 (Tue) 20:13:20 No.4407

>>4400

I don't play EUIV, although CKII looks decent enough. As does Vic2 (for its time at least), and the interface of HOI4 looks good. And like I said, gameplay trumps graphics, but I'd rather have both. And so if PDS stays on its current trajectory in dumbing games down, I will probably turn to Matrix, even if their graphics are stuck in 2005.

Johan 08/12/15 (Wed) 02:59:57 No.4409

>>4399

If they are carved more naturally, then it will change the gameplay.

A square will always have 4 places to move from (8 if allowing for diagonal movement).

A game with more naturally drawn will lead to some areas connecting to more or less than other areas. This will end up giving some places more strategic value based purely on the terrain.

Not even sure how you'd have a 3D game that plays like a 2D game, as it adds another whole dimension. Look at 2D vs. 3D platformers, they play completely differently.

The closest you can get is the 2.5D buzzword which is really just a 2D platformer+buzzword.

2D vs 3D shooters also. 3D adds the aspect of enemies being above and below you.

Going from 2D to 3D is not just graphics.

Johan 08/12/15 (Wed) 07:29:37 No.4412

This is Galactic Civilizations with the name filed off.

Johan 08/12/15 (Wed) 20:54:57 No.4416

>>4409

A "naturally" carved "square" might also have 4 tiles to move from. Any border might be narrower or wider, but in sum it's perfectly possible to retain the same mechanics with naturally drawn borders.

I'm not talking about Wolfenstein vs. Wolfenstein 3D. By 3D I'm referring to the mere visual aspect, i.e. watching the map from a different angle than just a top-down 2D view. Not sure what you mean about 2.5D.

Johan 08/12/15 (Wed) 23:15:45 No.4417

>>4416

>watching the map from a different angle than just a top-down 2D view.

That's really just a 2D game though.

>Not sure what you mean about 2.5D.

Trine 2 is a good example. It's just a 2D platformer, but some items seem to be further back than others. Thus they advertise it as 2.5D.

Johan 08/16/15 (Sun) 07:17:14 No.4424

Space caliphate when?

Johan 08/17/15 (Mon) 03:13:35 No.4427

can i be the space kingdom of ireland in this game

Johan 08/22/15 (Sat) 00:56:01 No.4461

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>>4424

A while ago.

Johan 08/22/15 (Sat) 03:37:29 No.4463

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Maybe I'm just incredibly naïve, but I have a slimmer of hope that Paradox isn't going to fuck this up and that maybe, just maybe, Stellaris will be a contender to dethrone Distant Worlds, at least until Distant Worlds 2 is released.

I don't know, the few features they've released so far look promising, especially the focus on making sure late game isn't just boring map painting. I really like exploration in my games, and it could be fun to look around and research the history of species long since dead and shit like that.

The claim that they will make it easier to get into than EU4 however is really trying my nerves. EU4 was not hard to get into at all, it was so abstract that player agency was very limited and that made the game piss easy as a result : just follow all the limitations hard-coded in the game and the flow of your mana, you can't go wrong. I seriously hope these 3 icons with + numbers next to them aren't mana flow. Mana single-handedly fucked EU4, and it will fuck HoI4.

You can't make a good GSG if your target audience is cawwadoody lackwits; such a game wouldn't even be GSG. I want something that's at least as complex and fun as DW. God DW is fucking amazing. They claim it as an inspiration so maybe…just maybe…

I guess we'll find out in a few months. I'll pirate for sure. In the meantime, don't fuck up Paradox.

Johan 08/23/15 (Sun) 17:14:50 No.4467

Just play Aurora or Distant Worlds, this will be dumbed down.