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 No.4666

I'm looking for mods that change minor things in gameplay but will make big difference such as

All countries have European tech

Byantine empire AI allways forms (or attempts) to restore the Roman empire

Anyone know of any like this?

 No.4667

>>4666

The tech groups shouldn't be too hard to find in the game files, probably in the respective countries' history files.

Also

>Yemen

>no war

They're on their way to becoming Somalia 2.0 at this point


 No.4669

>>4666

>Turkey

Has 2.1 million refugees already

>Jordan

1.4 million refugees, the country has 8 million people only

>Greece

No money to handle the refugees nor space

>Israel

Would be tormented apart by a Third Intifada, literally no space left even for themselves and that's the last place muslims would want to go

>Yemen

>no war

>Saudi Arabia

Actually has 500.000 refugees

>Azerbaycan :DDD

Busy looking after it's own shit

>Iran

>implying Sunni muslims can even go to Iran

>Oman

????

>Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, etc

Want to genocide the refugees; don't want them even close by

>Gulf States

Two of them have a Shia majority and the rest are just either sand or their cities are already full of Indians and Paksitanis

>Lebanon

Has 1.2 million refugees; 1/5th of the population there is of refugees alone

The only logical contestation here is Saudi Arabia. The rest is pretty much a /pol/-tier myopic conspiracy meme.


 No.4670

>Byantine empire AI allways forms (or attempts) to restore the Roman empire

Unless they get some serious cheats I can't see them managing to overcome the Ottomans, from what I recall the last time I played EU4 it's difficult to pull off if you don't cheese it.

It was always difficult even in EU3, you had to rely on everything going right by savescumming or just flat out restarting.


 No.4671

>>4669

>The rest is pretty much a /pol/-tier myopic conspiracy meme.

Reported for supporting genocide, you cocksucking pile of marxist shit.


 No.4695

>>4671

Lad I'm not even leftist to begin with. I just don't support pseudo-research made by /pol/.


 No.4764

>>4671

/pol/ pls


 No.4787

>>4669

>The rest is pretty much a /pol/-tier myopic conspiracy meme.

The population of Sweden is 1/5 "refugee" and rising. The rest of Europe cannot cope any more than the Swedes can, with socialised healthcare, welfare, and insurance systems collapsing under the weight of those who will not only not work, but often send money back home to other family members. "Refugees" also commit crime at tremendous rates, filling (and usually overburdening) European prison systems.

Next, "diversity" simply does not work - social trust and nearly all other societal indicators plunge with the introduction of multi-racialism, and this is a historical trend, which was, for example, instrumental in the collapse of the Austrian empire. Not to mention that it leads to local balkanisation, with various races living apart (where they have the choice to), with the notable exceptions of immigration advocates, who often live in 90%+ White neighbourhoods, and the White working class being forced to live alongside immigrants. leading to racial tension and violence, and the odd situation of many professed nationalist organisations being very pro-Israel.

Third, "refugees" are a political tool, both for base vote-gathering for the left (as they are often the party of handouts and immigration), and to be used by the US to destabilize countries, with the international Bosnian jihadists a prime example.

Lastly, much like with Africa, the initiative is counter-productive, with the acceptance of refugees causing a brain drain in afflicted countries, leading to further instability, and future refugee crises, leading to more refugee imports, etc.

I don't care if you're a leftist or not, but get your containment board and "conspiracy theory" shit back to 4chan, newfag.


 No.4799

>>4787

None of this refuted what he actually said dumbass.


 No.4803

>>4695

>pseudo-research

>because I say so

>no I don’t have a refutation to it; it’s just wrong

>>4764

Either refute it or shut the fuck up.

>>4799

>LOL IT NO REFUTE BECAUSE I SAY SO LOL I STILL RIGHT NOW

Just fucking kill yourself now. You’ll be slaughtered in the collapse, anyway.


 No.4809

I love converters. I got a game that started in 872with an Irish count. Got until empire in Eu4 and a colony in vic2

There is a converter from vic2 into HOI3?

Want to finish the time lines


 No.4810

>>4799

For one, he's not wrong, he's just being myopic as well and pretending that refugees don't have destructive effects everywhere, and secondly, there's nothing wrong with countering baseless assertions with baseless assertions.


 No.4838

>>4787

What the fuck you mean by all these statements? All I did was to point the number of refugees on the countries indicated on the map and made some corrections like SA having 0 refugees. I'm not even arguing about immigration, left wingers using immigrants and etc.

If you want the immigration to stop so badly then get your sissy white ass countries to finish the shit you have started on these Middle East countries through arbitrary treaties like Sykes-Picot, send the refugees/immigrants back to there and never interfere on their lands again.

>>4803

Refutation to what? The map itself is memetic to say at least. There are places marked with "no war" that have batshit conflicts or social unrest like Turkey, Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen and Iran.

>>4810

I'm not pretending refugees don't have a weight on the economy nor being myopic. You are making an assumptionof something I have not said. As I've said above, I'm just indicating facts alone, more specifically, the number of refugees outside of Europe (estimated 87-89% of the total).

If you want my sources on the number of refugees, just go here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War and enjoy reading the dozens of sources. In fact, the number I gave on some those countries have increased even further.


 No.4841

>all this talk

>no recommendations

The two suggestions are good, but this thread should really be locked. This isn't the place to discuss immigration or how /pol/ (you know, the one person) conducts research.

I don't any recommendations myself though. The New World Order MOD for Vic2 essentially has lesser or non-European nations start with European technologies, but I don't think that's exactly what you're after.

You could always use the research console commands in Vic2 being 'instant research' which I think affects AI, with 'inr' not affecting the AI.


 No.4842

>>4838

Fuck you in particular though. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, nor are the sources they often use. It's also important to understand that most immigrants in Europe are not from Syria. Most are from Africa, with only a smaller (yet still too high) number from Syria and the Middle East.

You jumped the gun on OP's pic. It doesn't talk amount numbers or "facts". It suggests two things. Firstly, that immigrants from Syria are entering Europe for financial reasons, and secondly that the House of Saud are dicks. The quote is having a go at the attitude of the established government in the European Union and their Union members.

Food for thought: How does it make sense that Syrians are taking refuge in Europe, when it's Europe (UK, France and some others) that's bombing their homeland?


 No.4848

>>4842

>It doesn't talk amount numbers or "facts"

>Saudi Arabia (refugee intake = 0)

>clearly indicating countries at war or not

Nice try /pol/.

>Firstly, that immigrants from Syria are entering Europe for financial reasons

Not every one of the refugees though. Do you expect that after staying 4 years under Assad's air force glassing is even bearable? Or you don't think that Syria hasn't completely collapsed and can't support their own people anymore?

>and secondly that the House of Saud are dicks

They are the Freys of the real world. Doesn't matter what they do they will always get money and just want support from the strongest to protect them.

>How does it make sense that Syrians are taking refuge in Europe, when it's Europe (UK, France and some others) that's bombing their homeland?

There you go. You've answenered your own question. If you are going to glass the shit out of a country why should a third one keep their people as refugees? It's Europe's fault to join the US in their imperialistic adventures on Middle East. Had it been neutral like Germany is today they wouldn't be suffering this bullshit and the refugees would probaly be spread all over the Middle East.


 No.4853

>>4848

>/pol/ boogeyman

>muh barrel bombs

>they are the Freys of the real world

>imperialistic adventures

Back to reddit, faggot.


 No.4877

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>>4666

>>4669

Whipped this up real quick


 No.4879

>>4877

>implying europe should open its borders to migrants just because their country is shit

Well tough fucking luck. Go die in your shithole; why should I have to import you and have you shit up my country as well?


 No.4882

>>4879

>just because their country is being bombed and destabilized by the western world


 No.4888

>>4882

As opposed to being bombed and destabilised by their own kind? Not much difference either way, and the West pays for it regardless of if it's "Imperialism" or Nog on Nog action.




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