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 No.262

/tech/nician here

Since this seems to be the radio people board here is this: https://archive.today/eDuXk

Norway seems to be mothballing FM radio in favor of digital radio.

What's your take on this?

 No.264

It might make for a golden age for FM pirates in norway, depending on enforcement.

It might also make people living in remote areas a bit pissed off.

100MHz versus 230MHz and all that for decreased range.


 No.284

>>264

They're actually re-assigning the spectrum? Didn't know that. Figured it was something like a forced mode-shift where they forced every broadcaster to digital for the sake of permitting more licenses.


 No.285

>>284

THere is some talk about digital divide and all that for the old spectrum, but sweden will still have FM so they cannot do it close to the border so that they don't interfere.

the narrowest DAB multiplex is 1.5MHz wide stock, dunno about DAB+ that noway is likely deploying.

And they move to the 230MHz DAB spectrum coz that's where 100% of the consumer DAB receiver operate, in addition to the 1400MHz L-band dab allocation.


 No.287

>>285

Is there really that much uptake? We've got "HD Radio" here in the US, but adoption is piss-poor. I can see the advantages from a "number of programs/spectrum" perspective, but I'm having a hard time imagining that there's enough demand to justify it for broadcast radio nowadays.


 No.288

>>287

19% of daily listeners in norway are using DAB. So not that much.

DAB is proper digital radio from ground up, not some tacked on thing like the usa HD Radio thing.


 No.289

>DAB is proper digital radio from ground up

Why did anybody think this was a good idea, and why the heck are they killing broadcast FM for it? Sub-audible digital via broadcast FM at least has the benefit of not breaking compatibility with existing equipment.

I'm having a hard time imagining that they're going to see all that much uptake of DAB because of this - the most likely result is that everybody who used to listen to the radio just starts streaming via the internet instead.


 No.290

>>289

Well DAB has been around for quite some time.

I'd rather have proper ground up digital radio on it's own band instead of some hacked add-on to legacy radio.

And well, they are going to see that in 2018 that 100% of domestic radio listeners listen to DAB.

Except those near the swedish border who hear swedish analog transmissions.




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