The first time I read Alice in Wonderland I realized Lewis Carroll was a total pedo from the way he describes Alice. Then I read he was actually forbidden from spending time with the real Alice, which he used to do, an adult man taking little Alice on dates, because of some event that made the family want him to stay away. Then I later found out he spent his free time photographing nude children.

>I have the feeling that finally people start to change and open up more to our young-girl-topic.

I feel that too. I'm happy when I come across some random non-MAP forum and see people being positive about such stuff. It seems we are finally moving from "pedophiles are evil, we need to kill them" to "pedophiles are sick, we need to help them". I still expect the day when they will say "pedophiles are normal, we need to respect them".

>>100098

You should check out the history

of the author, Lewis Carroll.

I'm no expert, but some history

suggests he was a hebephile,

and that his tendencies were

the inspiration for the story.

>>100126

Yeah but as a non-MAP coming here and seeing some comments can be quite the turn off. Typically the violent and rapey ones. While the majority are not so, they stick out like a sore thumb.

>>100098

True...he had sex with and was falsely accused of being the baby daddy despite DNA - people didn't trust the test back then

What makes you think 10 is not Hebe?

Hebe (Greek) or Juventas (Roman) was the goddess of youth. There are no strict boundaries to it.

10 could be prepubescent or pubescent so it can't be strictly categorized.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gratian

What would Gratian think of this, folks?

>>100122

>>100129

Gotta respect an OG hebe/pedo. From what I remember from two biographies he loved taking photos of girls and sometimes their mothers who'd often happily undress for him. Sadly part of his final orders was that his massive private collection of photos be destroyed after his death. Having seen quite a few surviving images I highly doubt the rest ended up in the fireplace.

I also heard that most of Alice in Wonderland came out during a picnic with his lgfs and his long stream-of-consciousness tale was likely influenced by mushrooms. As for his infamous muse, she was 6 just like the Alice in his book. But obviously in the Disney version she's made to look closer to 12.

>>100172

Yeah, I really really hate seeing people post sociopathic comments and generally acting like they care nothing at all for anyone but themselves. It makes all MAPs look bad by association and only serves to reinforce the current perspective held by non-MAPs that we are all evil.

>>100098

>>100129

>>100226

Lewis Caroll was the living refutation of the idea that all "pedos" are some sort of rape machines, only out for under-aged pussy. He was a great man.

>>100230

Every day I pray for an unrated biopic on his life in the style of Amadeus, but sadly I think Gene Wilder and Suri Cruise may be too old to play the lead characters at this point. At least he left us with many great lines. "I like children, but not boys."

>>100227

Right on. I say zero tolerance for trolls, antis, and haters in 2016. Just ignore their BS and be you.

>>100293

I can see why he liked her so much.

>>100244

Did you know he put himself in the story? The Dodo is from how he would introduce himself as "Do-do Dodgeson" because of a stammer.

>>100244

And he lived in the age and the land where the age-of-consent was still 10.

Alice was clearly intended to be 23.

Every night he put something down her rabbit hole

>>100172

Lol shut up whiny bitch. You actually have the option of coming out IRL and showing people MAPs are good. Yet you hide like a coward and act like you are better than the rest of us.

>>100176

>True...he had sex with and was falsely accused of being the baby daddy despite DNA - people didn't trust the test back then

Carroll died in 1898, you illiterate fucking douchebag.

They didn't HAVE a fucking "test back then" because they didn't even know WTF DNA was!

Fucking lowlife intellectual vandals...

No amount of good things a pedophile does will override the stigma. Take that police officer who was v& in the UK for visiting primejailbait for example.

People don't become MAPs unless they are mistreated from day one. I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather stop using War Room and fuck some anorexic college girls instead.

There is simply no hope for a fair society for pedophiles unless it is constituted entirely of pedophiles. You're never going to get anywhere by begging.

>>100576

>who's interested in a 16yo girl.

That's just a grown woman.

>>100576

Just because something is common it doesn't mean it's not wrong. And they can still keep pushing the argument of disparity of power between adults and adolescents, and how it will probably lead to abuse. The problem with those kind of arguments is that we can't even make an experiment to check if things really work that way.

>>100576

Women aren't a part of this. They need to get stripped of rights.

>>100576

Well said. Before I found this board. I had a small collection of hebe pics and few pedo. Both collections have increased because I feel more comfortable about viewing such images.

>>100374

I think that anon might be talking about Charlie Chaplin, you know, like he typed in his subject line.

You would have probably caught that, weren't you an "illiterate fucking douchebag." (are you even intelligent enough to know what illiterate means?)

>>100620

There's already insurmountable evidence proving that a power imbalance between young adults and their elders, that's not really something you could possibly disprove. It's simply a fact.

Something worthwhile to focus on is showing how the presence of an imbalance in power does not inherently lead to abuse.

>>100681

Power corrupts, always! Especially in govt. That's why young people are considered children as long as possible, even into their 20s, all because somebody needs victims and dependents to use for their own purposes. I'd support the idea of children's rights, if only we could get past all the same dummy issues and focus on what matters, real freedom and individual responsibility.