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>>101821

>>101821

Most hebe or pedofiles would argue that it's a sexuality. Much how a gay person cannot choose who they are attracted to, pedofiles and hebefiles don't choose this attraction either.

>>101836

One of the best statements I've read in some time. Cheers.

>>101846

We're not all psycho rapist trolls. Some of us would never think of hurting a child, but we were born with this attraction and try to find some outlet for it. I don't think most people would choose to have an attraction that is so universally reviled, but there is nothing wrong with having these feelings.

>>101821

>>101836

I think it makes better sense to classify pedophilia as a sexual interest.

Sexual orientation is an relativistic "non-judgmental" concept that connotes that no sexuality is better or more natural than any other. Accepting this terminology means picking up serious ideological baggage. As long as we accept the idea that everyone's orientation is equal, it will be hard to not logically endorse everything the LGBT lobby endorses and the toxic, individual-liberationist ideas that are the ideology of the powers that be in the Western world.

Fetish is a psychological term, and denotes futile obsessions that are unreproductive. This is inaccurate, because while most young children aren't fertile yet, many pedophile lovers would stay with one partner through her peak fertility years when she could have children. Therefore, pedophilia isn't antithetical to family life or personally self-destructive like fetishes.

Being a pedophile doesn't mean you don't have healthy, normal human sexuality. It just means you're looking out for the same partners as the normies, just a few years earlier.

It depends on the person, but I think it is disingenuous to parrot the Left and simply say we're born with a certain sexual orientation we cannot change. I think, in my own experience, it IS true that different people have different sexual interests, but it onset inevitable that given feelings will coalesce into one orientation. Personally, I can remember a certain time before which I wasn't a pedophile, and afterward I was. Cute little girls always gave me a warm, protective feeling, but I think it would be slighting the role of will not to say I chose to see a love affair with a child as an ideal. I expect the same could be said about other sexual interests, however much certain people will brag about their unchangeable attractions. What I am more interested in, and what we owe society, is argument for pedophilia as a good that can be incorporated into the natural family. Thankfully, such arguments are already about, and I hope we continue to focus on in the future.

Even if we couldn't "help" ourselves, others remain free to take away all of our access to children, slander us as "abusers", and imprison us for consensual sex. Let them be convinced that no longer to will the continuation of these evils!

>>101821

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>>101836

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>>101893

You're all retarded; It is neither a sexuality or a fetish, It is a simple love and taste for female forms at all life's stage (especially at its most fragile and with its exquisite pre-flower blooming anticipation)

It is most natural.

All the hidden elites (!), top scientists and immortal poets are like us... but succeeded well, doing things we cannot even imagine in pursuit of truth, perfection and love

I would post a nice loli bride but fuck you retards for over-thinking

>>101893

There is not a single person here who would not fuck high quality college girls given the opportunity

Sexual orientation does not imply sexual activity, nobody is entitled to it

Pedophilia is neither an orientation nor an interest, it is the state of being unwanted

It might soon get to the point where people identify as heterosexual/pedophile (or hebe) the same way animals are known by genus/species.

There are too many definitions being thrown about for all the words in question.

For me, a sexual orientation is a basic, fundamental preference for a type of person. In my case, as a true pedophile, the body type typically had by 6 to 12 year old girls gets me aroused all the time. Slim, small, hairless and pristine bodies, with faces having big eyes and toothy smiles.

A fetish, in my opinion, is a specific type of fantasy that arises out of the fundamental sexual preference. For instance, my fetish is fingering. I love dreaming about fingering little girls, ages 6 to 12.

A fetish can change, as mine has many times over the years, but every new fetish that arises always stems from my basic preference.

A sexual orientation is not a choice. My fetishes are.

>>101821

I think ones sexual attraction is somewhat changeable, or otherwise influenced by environmental factors. (Mine hasn't changed that I am aware, I always liked teenage girls about as much as girls in their early 20s.)

>>102006

Well said. Nobody chooses to be gay or straight, and you easily argue that someone is born with all the determining factors that make you pedo, or hebe which I'm starting to think is WAY more common than most people wanna believe or accept.

>>102014

Right on. The most important thing is knowing who and how you are and being able to love and accept yourself. I've always liked girls 4-9 most and have practically no interest in women. Selena Gomez and even Maddie Ziegler seem too old, although I wouldn't turn down that impossible opportunity.

That said, if you'd honestly rather be able to hug and kiss the 5y lg nextdoor than have sex regularly with a supermodel in her early 20s or late teens, is that really something that can be "cured" anymore than gay that can be prayed away?

sage

>>101821

Polls have consistently shown that most pedos would gladly change their orientation if it were possible.

>>101821

Please OP, fuck off.

Sexuality is a eucariota

function in cell scale.

Genders are only XX,XY

and transgenders (XXY,XYY,etc).

Being attracted to 12+ girls is a natural

tendency in human males.

Please kill yourself.

>>101836

Please stop using word 'Sexuality'

to be attracted or to like some

kind of contact.

Sexuality is reproductive method

in eucariota cells and

insert your penis in a vagina

is a behavior that intend

to make this happend.

Insert your penis in a

anus or in a 7yo girl

is NOT a sexual act.

>>101893

Please gas this kikes

>>101893

>>101836

>>101988

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>>102019

Please hitler.

Come back from

hell and gas

all these fucking

kikes and their

conductual 'science'.

Pedophilia doesn't really fit in those terms, I would say it's an evolutionary trait latent within most humans.

Let's go back to pre-lingual homosapiens, did this ancestor got to the club buy a cave woman a drink and then bang furiously next to the tar pits that night? No. He had to find a mate without the use of language or alcohol and he had to be careful not to take someone else's mate so as not to risk revenge.

We don't know exactly how this was done but if we think it through logically there were probably small tribes of relatives hanging around common water sources at this time in our ancestry now perhaps they could conceive of offering gifts in exchange for favor and maybe establish rapport this way and find a mate but I think that is largely improbable and a very modern way of thinking.

My best bet is that young men would travel in a hunting pack some distance from "home" to kidnap wives, now if you want to go no further than a day or two's walk then you need to make sure your prey can't find it's way back, since chaining your bride up wasn't an option it made sense to take them young, they would also be easier to control and carry when escaping and far easier to train when you get them back, you have a "honeymoon" as would be instinctual as soon as you get back and this establishes a dominance but even as we know an emotional connection, many assume women hate their rapists but often times if it's purely sexual and overpowering we see lingering signs in the female's psychology of pair bonding. Women can't help but to release oxytocin (the love hormone) when being penetrated so long as it isn't 100% painful. in the next days the tribes women help the girl to recover and assimilate and she returns to her new mate's side in the evening. This process is how many apes and monkeys keep from becoming overly inbred would also explain the psychological tendencies of the modern woman to hold rape fantasies but also the origin of Stockholm syndrome.

>cont

>>102218

Why is pedophilia against the law today if it is our nature and how are such laws common through much of the world? language eventually developed and we could communicate how to do things better and more efficiently so we had advances in our knowledge of biology and so forth, we learned about how to breed our women more efficiently and reduce their mortality to put it bluntly, so the social norm became to put girls to marriage at first blood otherwise known as menarche. The term pedophile developed in a very puritanical period where we were highly focused on declaring ourselves morally superior in every way and so in a cross civilization contest to show moral superiority multiple interests of spinsters looking for husbands, the religious and the state colluded to demand age of marriage and consent laws, consent laws came first in the form of contract consent laws over child labour and such but evolved as our notion of moral supremacy evolved to demand children have a period of childhood, much of the world didn't participate in this nonsense and only when the British and other European empires spread did these ideas receive marginal traction.

TLDR: pedophilia is natural but not the most efficient, marrying old women (30 is no eggs, 24 is half) is unnatural and inefficient (inspires women to whore out of sexual lust and this ruins familial cohesion in the future) so we should be marrying post menarche, young, virginal girls to older men who have established incomes and also make the establishment of income something achievable at a much younger age.

My ideal society would have 20 year old guys meeting 11-14 year old girls through church, associates and maybe some parentaly vetted online exchanges and at 4th grade the genders should be separated in academia not to be reunited until higher learning, we would make school more efficient by changing our methods for middle school and making sure that a high school diploma is more education that a simple liberal arts degree today, this is all doable because we teach children math, grammar and other studies in a masturbatory fashion that treats every thing as being massively fundamental to all future endeavors, we should teach more and spend less time on certain things, in doing so we can drop all homework except for reading and writing assignments and also drop grammar classes. Women would be having their first children by 16 in many cases and could have 3 children by age 20 without a detriment to her health and once the youngest hits 10 mom can get back into education and be ready to enter a fulfilling professional career by 30-33 and in this time her husband has become a career professional because he could fully dedicate himself to work.

This system would solve under employment, the divorce epidemic, population decline, educational problems, allow for a more educated and principled society, crime rates would likely also decrease suicide rates and depression rates for both genders and solve the misunderstandings of the pay gap for society. my simplified system works with biology not against it as our current system does.

Finally to be clear I would grant special divorce rights and a twice yearly check up from child services to these girls in the case they get a bad husband. this system would also support and be supported by a system of basic income.

I can back up the divorce stats if people want them.

Lot of words here. Why not just say 'I wanna fuck 12 year olds and not go to jail'? It'd save a lot of strain on my eyes.

Biggest argument against it: we aren't cavemen anymore. I'm in my thirties, in caveman years that makes me an old man. Back in the day, we HAD to fuck kids before they got too old to look after the babies. 18 year olds were probably considered milfs back then.

Now we're living longer and maturing mentally later (if at all, in many cases). Society's fault? Maybe. We aren't what we were physically, mentally or socially. But we still live in societies. If society says '17 is too young, 18 is OK' you either deal with it or you go find a society with different rules. I hear there's a few places in Africa where 7 is considered too old.

Complaining about not being able to fuck kids while you already have a reasonable sex life does not make you a pedophile, it makes you entitled

There is only so much of that "normal healthy human sexuality" to go around, and having access to it doesn't make you a better person any more than having money does

It's a fetish for me. I'm 95% into sexually developed women. Hebe and loli are a fetish I developed because of the taboo

Neither. Pedophilia is a social construct, not an orientation. If you like to fuck other men in the ass you are a homo, if you break the age of consent laws, you are labeled a pedophile, even if you don't fuck actual children. Whole different things. When you start believing the lies the kikes shove you up your ass, then you are truly lost.

>>102357

You have a very common though interesting statement about how "pedophilia" (I consider this term absurd since its a natural love of objective, truthful beauty and a necessity of men since ante-lingual times to the relative modern times) and homosexuality are being similarly repressed, though you also have the fault of categorized the two as a similar thing - while I do not think they're alike at all: let me explain.

In the case of being a "homosexual", it is biologically deviant on a solitary-unit-basis;

what I mean by this is that homosexuality and its happy practitioners MAY be actually useful (or have a place eg. being toys or holes) in an extremely, sexually voracious society as a whole, but it is unnatural for an individual's ultimate "self-growth" (and towards a larger framework: society's as well). This "self-growth" is of course the creation of children... and since homosexuality cannot promote genetic multiplication without a third party involvements like surrogacy, sperm-bank, artificial womb, and modern institutionalized doctors (who have too great apower when it comes to birth-control and planning), it cannot be considered - "natural".

Let me enunciate what a "third party" really means. You, as the individual, are the first party; your partner of love is the second party as the "other": these two's involvement are the quintessence half and half that makes a whole again.

An extra party, such as the third (or even incremental ones), is often not necessary in healthy circumstances, especially if the third party arises arbitrarily from some post-relational machinery: like a priest for example, or the court.

As mentioned, unless grave situations and complications demand a third party to assist you (and not control you with ownership right in production), it is naturally not required. Though no doubt they can help some individuals if all is well.

Some can view the parents of you and your partner as the ante-chronologically physical third party since they procreated you, or those matchmakers and helpers that seeded your relationship into fruition; but notice how they already co-exist with your own relationship before the birth of your child or marriage and so forth - and they can also continually influence the aftermath of a successful relationship: where as an arbitrary one-timer like Rev. whatshisname is never heard off after a fond religious wedding.

As a species (or race), our collective and paramount emphasis on genetic multiplication and our given ability of conquering all available resource so thereby fulfilling it is objectively the reason why we as human are humane and the manifested ruler of this planet right now. As it is, we naturally wants the best mate possible: hence why the true child-lovers have less of a plump-dump tendency and are often poetic and productive until they die failing or succeeded. Carroll, Dante, multitudes of Eastern, Western, Arabic poets, elites, scientists and thinkers have failed is actualizing their child-love in easier climates, so it is hard to gauge if such devotion is ever rewarded to the right people... One thing is sure, when compared to most other love related obsessions, who is the most faithful and pure? and whose love deserve re-recognition?

Side-tracked, let me get back to homo-bashing and asserting a natural love as the truth.

By losing one's most fundamental freedom in the pre-program participation of biological destiny, you become shackled to a particular sets of rules such as laws, public expectation or social constructs, but also a slave to a certain third party who will forcibly intercede and "help" you to reach that destiny "on your behalf". This is bad news for that particular deviant individual because judging by the natural behavior of any power hierarchy so far in existence, they will most likely will not care about your interest (eg. treat you like an experimentation) or use you as a mean to an end - just as you unwittingly use them as a means to an end by waiving your fundamental natural right as the contract requires: "I want baby, make it happen to me please xxx agency" or "I want to be hormonalized, make it happen to me please xxx MD Gottenberg" - and they simply reply with "Pay us xxx, sign here".

TL:DR; the love of children results and comes from a desire of family, while homosexuality can also be similar, it cannot possible have the factual highground (due to the many listed problems) over child-love and thus is not wholly natural and intended.

I want to write a part two continuation on why such a system repressing child-lovers and homosexuals have arisen, mainly due to monopoly of certain groups and individuals with bad resource management and poor decision making; but you guys are probably teenagers... so I'll stop now.

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>>101821

I think the word your looking for is crime.

>>101821

Sexual interests.

>>101821

I think all definitions and categories to describe "sexual orientation", "fetish", etc. are pretty blurry, especially when it comes to scientific explanations -- social definitions aside.

I'm making a wild guess here, that the entire construct of "sexuality" is a mixture of nature and nurture.

On one hand, sexuality is in our genetic code. Every healthy human has genitals and develops the ability (physical) and urge (mentally) to mate through puberty.

On the other hand, we grow up and form a mental state through experiences. Education and society have a big impact on how one should work in that society. Other experiences beyond that influence influence the actual personality.

I'm no psychologist, but what I want to say is: Any influence you receive -- especially during growing up -- forms a mental state. Maybe you become gay, because you had bad experiences with girls, your parents toughed you it was not okay to "do that with girls" as they caught you playing doctor, or you were so much getting into jerking of you boy pals during sleepovers, that this is, what you became attracted to.

Same for younger girls. Same for black chicks. Same for being beaten, pissed on, etc.

Something happened to you while you grew up that set the genetic trigger for "getting horny" to anything you are actually attracted to. Even watching porn while jerking of enforces your attraction to anything new -- unless you better go throw up from seeing people shitting in their mouths....

Maybe it can be "cured" -- "manipulated" is the better word, I guess -- but at what cost? There was I time where being left-handed was a sin and suppressed, and people suffered from it.

The problem being pedo/hebe/whatever is society. Society claims to define what is "normal" or "acceptable" and what not. Forcing yourself on a weaker being is wrong, no questions asked! Like being gay is not "harmful" to anyone else, sex involving children or animals is always one "non-consensual being" -- which is also questionable in any educational step the kid does not want to do (thank you anti-authorial education to bring up children who act in their asshole nature).

But that's what society is all about: Defining rules for everyone to allow living together peaceful and healthy -- at least "the majority".

I think it can be one or the other tbh. I'm an epheb personally but I'm non-exclusive. I have a gf about my age who knows all about it and is generally curious about it. It's definitely a sexuality for me since I've been into girls of that age range since I was 11 and its never changed.

>>101836

This makes no sense because that would mean every attraction is a sexuality because you can't choose what you like.