/hebe/ - Girls

>be me 40 sumthing

>be her…18…niece

>been wanting her for several years

>do nothing, cuz you kno…family

>go shopping

>see couple of hotties…maybe 16-17

>checkin em out

>niece puts arm around me…pulls me close

>jealous?

>go to fair with her a month l8r

>acts more like my gf than niece

>hold hands

>walk with arms around each other

>becomes habit when we are 2gether even in front of muh sis

>sis just thinks we are friendly i guess…says nothing

>6 mo l8r

>xmas time

>niece sits on muh lap

>nuzzles my neck

>gentle pecks

>feel tongue licking it

>diamonds

>she gets up…smiles

>10 mins later in kitchen

>make out

>b-but niece w-we can't

>but i want to uncle

>kiss again

>nervous cuz might get caught

>go back to where fam is

>keep lookin at each other & smiling

>both have a couple more drinks

>fam is ready for bed

>spending nite cuz i'm 2 drunk 2 drive

>go out to motor home where i will sleep

>lay there trying to get thots of her outta muh head

>20 mins pass

>door 2 motor home opens

>niece comes in

>are you sure?

>yes uncle

>climbs on bed

>make out a lot

>touch…kiss…caress

>make love

>been almost a year now

>still foolin around when we can

>want to be 2gether but can't for obv reasons

why does it have to be so difficult? why can't we just live as any other couple would?

>>86238

>How will a girl know her daddy really loves her if he won't cum inside her?

>But he shouldn't put it in her pussy or ass, those are for her husband

So he should only cum in her mouth?

>>86243

That was the implication yes, though he could cum on her, even on her kitty. I don't think a man should do penetration besides oral with his daughter, it's a matter of honor. And of course he'd eat her out and tickle her kitty.

>>86251

That would be boring. Dads should be their daughter's first for everything. Teach her how to properly please a man with her mouth and body.

Would like to teach her

Wont get into specifics but my Grandpa fathered 3 children with his daughter. This was back in the 70s. Nothing ever happened to him as he was the only person working at the time and my family didnt want to be homeless so they let him keep fucking his daughter as long as he provided for everyone. She got pregnant at 12 and nobody even knew until she was taking a shower, getting undressed, and my Grandma saw her baby bump. Then she asked if she was pregnant. My aunt didnt even know what that was or how she got pregnant. After a long talk my Grandma found out she was having sex with her Dad and didnt know anything about cum or sperm or how you get pregnant. He kept fucking her u til she was 19 then she moved out of the house and "realized" she was brainwashed and just obeyed orders because he tricked her into thinking she loved him romantically/sexually

I dont believe that bullshit though and Im not allowed over her house cuz I talk shit to her. How can you have 3 kids and sex with your father and NOT enjoy it? Truth is she was a fuxking whore who liked Daddy dick and when everyone in the family found out ahe tried to make it look like his fault. As the cliche is "it takes two to tango"

I fucking hate my Aunt and her made up stories to play victim

>>86270

There may be more but that is the biggest one in my family. Two other stories I know of are

1) My Uncle was fuxking his niece (my cousin) since she was 10. I found out about this when she was around 17 and a family member walked in on them having sex. She told my mom and for some reason she brought me along to confront him just in case he got violent. I was there to I guess hold him or punch him if he got violent. Anyway we go to his house and my Mom asked at the door if he was fucking his niece and he looked so scared. He said no but his eyes and face were so shocked you coukd tell he was lying like he got caught.

So he shuts the door and we find my cousin. After a long talk she says one day she was watching tv on the sofa at 10yo and he was babysitting. Next thing she knows he was naked and had his hand under her clothes. She said she didnt know what to do so didnt do anything. Then he removed her clothes and had sex with her then kissed her then told her to take a shower before her mom gets home then left. Then over the years he would come over the house and have sex with her whenever she was alone. If she wasnt alone he woukd take her in his car somewhere and have sex then bring her back home like nothing out of the ordinary happened

Again, I call bullshit. Me and my cousin are cool but even she tries to say she didnt like it. You do not have sex for someone for 7 years and if you were actually molested/raped you dont keep quiet for that long. She only told us when she was caught which means she wanted to keep having sex with him IMO

Plus he kept denying anything ever happened till a few years ago then fessed up to fucking her. But he said it is not like she was an angel and he raped her. From his story she would ask for favors and things in return for sex. When he took her out he would fuck her then take her to the mall and buy things for her. Which isnt entirely unheard of since he did buy her a car at 16 which freaked out all of us. It was used but still a car. He doesnt even pay his own child support and he buys his niece a car? So I think a mix of both happened

she was a whore who used her pussy for material things and he was stupid enough to fuck and get caught with his niece. At least she necer got pregnant I guess. She is around 24/25yo now though and we suspect they still fuck but who cares now. she is an "adult" and can. ake her own decisions

But nothing ever happenepned to him legally because he is/was a family facorite. None od the grown ups wanted to call the police on him even though it was very illegal what he did. Most of the family just stopped talking to him and blaklisted him off

>>86271

2) A different Uncle also fucked a family member but this is really the only one I feel bad about

He started having sex with his own daughter and we dont really know when it started. She went crazy at 18 and we all just thought it was high school/college shit. She was in the hospital for mental stuff and we tried to get her help

She didnt say anything but was obviously scarred by something. Then she got into a phase where she wanted to go to church eceryday and confess things. And praying all the time. Really weird

Then one day her mom comes home from work and she just tells her they need to talk. She told my Aunt that her dad was having sex with her and she cant take it anymore and is going to leave

She also stated she had 2 abortions in secret. He got her pregnant some time twice and took her to get an abortion in secret so they could keep having sex. He told her to make up a lie that she just had sex with a school boy and to her mom to lie and say she was sick which is why she needed to stay home for a few days

She honestly left for good. She has no contact with our family now and we only know of her updates when she posts on facebook. She turned into a lesbian and is married. Around 22yo

For some reason my aunt stayed with him though. Probably because he makes a lot of money and she doesnt really do much.

Nothing ever happened to him either. She didnt want this to turn into a whole big mess and didnt want to send him to jail because of her mom so she just left and moved far away

Things like this, Im sure, happen in all families. Just a lot of people never like to talk about the subject because it is taboo. I didnt know this shit for years until one person says something then you find out a lot of disgusting and weird things happen in your family that the older folks like to keep secret

just like the Duggar family. When there are a lot of kids incest and molestation and rape will happen regardless. It cant be prevented or stopped

My Grandpa had 14 kids. This Uncle had 6. Just statistics really. A male with a pretty daughter will soon enough touch or fuck one of them one day. He just tries to keep it secret

In truth I envy these men. I too have plans to touch my daughter if I ever have one and will cement in her head that if she loves me then she will keep our secret. If she ever tells then that means she really doesnt love me and really doesnt think of me as her father. That should keep her quiet for her good years. When she hits puberty Im sure I wont want her anyway sexually

>>86273

Oh and I have an Aunt who was blowing her 2 sons and jerking them off. They were under 7yo both of them but eh..... I dont really know what to say about this

She has 8 kids and was touching her two oldest sons and sucking them off. Her third which is a girl - she was not feeding her and punishing her for stupid shit

We called CPs on her and she went to the hospital. Turns out she had just had a baby and had post partum depression which is why the police said she was acting crazy and doing things that were "not normal"

Nothing happened to her. They got her on some meds and said she was the mother so she was legally able to touch her sons penis for certain things like bathing or for check ups (which she said she only does that for ecen though the two boys told us and everyone she used her mouth on them and touched them in random times in the day)

And the reason she was punishing the little girl was due to her depression

I mean we only called CPS because her daughter was extremely underweight. She was with holding food from her. But they found nothing wrong. Just put her on meds and everything is apparently fine now

I honestly dont even want to know what goes on in that family. On the outside they look fine but the two boys are basically mutes now and dont answer any questions in regards to how their mom treats them. All the kids just always say she is nice

So who knows really. In another 15 years Im sure more shit will leak out. I got a huge family and plenty of hidden skeletons everywhere that nobody wants to talk about

I mean hey I cant complain really. Im a pedo and go on chan boards. Nobody knows this but Im sure they would be shocked to know I jerk off to 5 year olds

>>86274

>>>86271

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>>>86274

>It sounds like your whole family should be euthanized. Fucking A, I have no real problem with either consensual incest or with hebe sexuality, but there comes a point where shit has passed lines of acceptability, and it seems that that line has been crossed in your entire bloodline.

>>86273

>will cement in her head that if she loves me then she will keep our secret. If she ever tells then that means she really doesnt love me and really doesnt think of me as her father. That should keep her quiet for her good years. When she hits puberty Im sure I wont want her anyway sexually...

Wow... You actually foresee it happening that way. (Rolls eyes.)

Honestly, if you did that, you would be one of the ones they would tend to go after, and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, with that reasoning.

What would happen, in reality, is that you would be... "used", buying her cars and jewelry and clothing and paying her to shut-up, and keep going... Which will end-up in you eventually "getting caught", or her eventually "confessing it" to someone she is now manipulating with sex, possibly with the intention to get him to kill you. When she finally wants to stop and you keep going... or, when you want to stop, and she wants to keep going and gets depressed after you seemingly "just used her for sex"...

Might want to do more research into psychology and relationships, or just learn from the past, in your own family... Results may vary... In your case, the variance will be horribly worse than you imagine, if what you said you would try to do, was actually done.

>>86274

Also adding-in... I can relate to many of the stories you told. For some reason, people tell me odd intimate shit like this all the time.

That should be your biggest fear... Because, people have lives outside the house, outside of your grasp, away from your listening ears... and people love to "talk"... Either to get pity, brag about having sex, or to confide that this is "normal", or to find others doing the same thing...

There is no statute of limitations for this stuff. They can get you up to 30 years after the "crimes". If there is a potential for another "victim", within your proximity (the main reason everyone seems to "tell it years later", they will act faster, for fear of you "doing it again", to "protect that child".)

Actually, just happened to a friends father a while ago. Though, he only spent a year in prison, due to lack of evidence other than testimony. (Detailed testimony that he couldn't deny, and he didn't. Though, it was more like silent treatment, to the judge.)

>>86192

Inbreeding "complications", takes over a hundred years of constant inbreeding. This is a problem they have in countries where they normally marry "in the family", (cousins), to "keep the money in the family". (Turkey)

The "issues", related to birth, are still marginal. They result in mostly still-born or self-abortions. The percentages of other complications are like 2-5% greater than normal birth defects from breeding with non-family.

Movies and fiction made it out to be worse than it is, in reality.

However, the father "having the bride", was not uncommon. If the guy paid for a virgin (Dowry/Paid), he got one. But the father still "gave away", the bride. {Got her to take his seed}.

In a family, back in the day... you usually only married-off the good looking healthy children, which was usually only one boy and one girl... The first-borns. The ugly ones were usually sold-off for "slavery", (for girls, that was sex slavery or prostitution.) But not until they were taught how to have sex for good money, by daddy-pimp. (Not an issue in bibles, because they were clean virgins, not whores yet... Also, it's what men wanted, and men wrote the bibles. That is why the first thing in all bibles is about men ruling over women and women shutting-up, and not preaching.)

However, "fear of birthing a deformed child", from incest is usually not a fear, because they usually don't fuck to reproduce. They fuck to fuck, or to express intimate bonded love. (More to the prior, in the most "talked about cases"... Since, those loved don't talk about it.)

I love when people say... "Not in my family"... I call bullshit, 100%, without a doubt. It's like the news... they don't tell you when you are a kid, that people are killing people by the thousands and other countries have the power to drop bombs that can wipe-out entire cities from across the globe... Until they get older and figure that shit out. Then, to them, it looks like the world is falling to shit suddenly... No, it was always shit, you just didn't know the shit was under the carpet.

Same with these "skeletons"... Your mom and dad don't tell you that they fuck... Why the hell would your sister tell you that she is fucking dad? They already know you are creeped-out by it. You are the last person anyone would tell anything to. Also, you have a big mouth. (Not you OP or other guy... Just saying, to those who say "not in my house".)

I've talked to several women who have told me that their father/step-father/brother were the first people they had sexual fantasies about. Some even admitted it went farther than just fantasy.

It's far more common than people think, or want to believe.

I was plowing my cousin for a while, but she's a couple years older than me. Things got into 'dangerously lewd' territory when my little sister started to get curious about boys around puberty. Had to get a lock on my door after I woke up with her poking and prodding at my penis.

>>86242

>be me

>be her

then who are you

>>86376

He's him

Isn't it obvious?

>>86376

he's both. they're a gestalt monstrosity.

>>86341

Of course it's common, when a man and a woman (or boy and girl) live in the same house for such a long time, bet it them being blood related or not, they will develop sexual feelings. However, desire for and acting upon are two completely different things. A woman shouldn't cave into desire, nor should a man.

>>86411

>he's both

You mean he's Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner?

>>86413

>A woman shouldn't cave into desire, nor should a man.

So we should remain chaste for our entire lives?

Fuck that!!

>>86417

that's not what he said.

it is an animal that gives into base desire. a being with a thinking mind, able to conceive of things like cost, consequence, and morality, has the ability to chose to NOT cave to certain base desires.

When you see a 600 pound guy rolling down the street in his mobility scooter, drinking straight from a 3 liter bottle of soda and eating his 4th whopper in 15 minutes, do you think "that disgusting piece of shit should learn to control himself?" or do you think "just because you want to eat doesn't mean you should. where is your self control?"

>>86418

I think if that 3 liter bottle of soda and 4th whopper make him happy, then he should enjoy it.

Just like I think if relatives have a desire for each other, they should act on those desires.

To hell with society pushing their morals on everyone and making certain non physically harmful acts illegal.

>>86421

societal norms and morals exist for a reason.

Love can happen most anywhere, and i am not opposed to hebe relationships, or incestuous ones, though i will never be in either. but the fact is that before you simply jump into these things, you need to think of consequences. and moderation matters in all things.

a well thought out hebe (or incestuous, or both) relationship (or just sex) could be rewarding and worth it. A poorly thought out one can destroy lives, reputations, families, and land you in jail.

a soda and a burger can be a wonderful meal. living off of both in excess will leave you disgusting, incapable of taking care of yourself, and dead of a heart attack before you're 40.

>>86425

>societal norms and morals exist for a reason.

Sure they do, but it doesn't always mean it's a good reason.

Why can't I fuck my sister mom?

Because it's bad son.

Why is it bad mom?

Society says it is son.

Well that's stupid. I mean we both want to fuck, why can't we mom?

I don't know. There's really no good reason why, you just can't.

>a soda and a burger can be a wonderful meal. living off of both in excess will leave you disgusting, incapable of taking care of yourself, and dead of a heart attack before you're 40.

Why is that anyone's business other than the person eating their way to an early grave? Why does society get to say "No more burgers and soda for you, fat ass"?

>>86432

>I never said it was wrong, I never said you should follow the rules of society unquestioningly. I said you should think shit through and not just fucking jump in feet first because you feel animal level desire.

No, you didn't say that, and you did say you're not opposed to hebe or incestuous relations. My point, which apparently flew over your head, was that a majority of society disapproves of those types of relationships, and for no good reason. We wouldn't have to think things through if others didn't impose their morals on everyone else without a logical reason behind those morals. We'd just be able to fuck like animals if we so chose, without repercussions from the morality police.

>My point was that he was living on animal impulses and exerting no self control.

When he's not harming anyone but himself, he has the right to do that. Just like a person that smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day has the right to do so. We end up paying for their healthcare also. We take care of the healthcare for the homeless, a good many of which could get jobs and support themselves. We take care of the elderly, and even though they were probably productive in the past, they no longer are. Should we give up on them also? How about the mentally handicapped. Should we judge them negatively and not take care of them?

We pay insurance that takes care of a lot more than just that fat ass. And really, how do you know for sure he offers nothing in return? He might be one of the most brilliant scientists in the world. But most of us like to judge a book by it's cover.

>>86442

You're no different than a dog if you believe we should have sex with everyone just because you feel like it.

>>86487

yeah, that was my point with the whole "animal level desire" thing.

>>86487

>>86493

How did this derail from having the right of personal choice, to being no different than a dog?

You're both missing the point. It should be our personal choice who we have sex with, not societies. As long as no one is being caused any physical harm, unless they enjoy that, then the morals of others shouldn't dictate who we can or can't have sex with.

>>86495

The path to hell is paved with good intentions. Civilizations would fall if everyone did everything they wanted.

>>86496

I didn't say everyone should do everything they wanted.

I said, or at least implied, that everyone should have a choice to engage in behavior that causes no harm to anyone else.

If a person wants to shoot up heroin, let them. As long as their actions don't cause another person any harm, why is it any business of society?

bump 4 moar wincest storys

>>86287

Hey, bulshitter, back your bullshit with sources, if you have any.

First degree incest (siblings or parent-child):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest#Inbreeding

Children of parent-child or sibling-sibling unions are at increased risk compared to cousin-cousin unions. Studies suggest that 20-36% of these children will die or have major disability due to the inbreeding. A study of 29 offspring resulting from brother-sister or father-daughter incest found that 20 had congenital abnormalities, including four directly attributable to autosomal recessive alleles.

I know, Wikipedia, but still not unsourced further. Remember, these defects carry over to next generations until their genes stop being homozygous, IOW until exogamy fixing things.

>>95566

We best put a stop to those fuckers with their 90% shot at downy kids that go ahead and have them anyway if we want to be logically consistent. Or take those 20-36% odds. Either way, the current system is fucked and illogical.