No.231[Last 50 Posts]
I'm dedicating this thread to my favorite slave trainer sim, Jack-o-nine-tails or as halfchan used to call it, Slavmaker.
It took me a while, but I think I finally got good at it. The learning curve is kinda steep, so if you have questions, post them here.
Old Huntsman sure isn't pulling any punches when it comes to slavery. My old pasttime, Slave Maker, looks downright moralfaggy in comparison.
Note: contains rape, maledom, loli, golden showers, bestiality, scat and cannibalism. Who's hungry for some delicious virgin meat pies?
No.234
Mate, you can't just make a general without links in the OP. That's just not how this works.
No.236
looks like a good one, i'll check it out. from the screenshot and your description it kind of reminds me of a shitty flash game called simbrothel.swf
No.239
>>234OP here. Sorry about not providing links. Have an apology cookie and a free sample.
Here are the links:
The game proper:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/27v0pvy372z7wek/jack1-2-1.zipAnd the English translation (just insert in into the game folder)
mega.co.nz#!xxRC3AgJ!0iAqNcZHaA9tUTkiqY2RnEURTKCPae-iY3uGX6cNRXY
>>236This is much more sophisticated than SimBrothel. And you get to bang the slaves yourself.
No.241
Started this yesterday, neat so far, but info in non-slavtongue is nonexistent. If I live in the shack, how do I take baths? And how does my slave take baths?
No.243
>>241It's a filthy shack, it does not have a bath. If you want living conditions with actual hygiene, you're gonna have to rent some proper housing in the real estate office in White Town (It's one of the buildings in the trade square)
Here's a few tips for newcomers:
-max rank of slave = beauty OR fame. Fame can only gotten through winning in the coliseum, so chances are, only the gorgeous supermodels can get the highest ranks. Plastic surgery can raise beauty by one rank, but it's expensive.always always ALWAYS get a checkup in the technosphere for a new slave . Especially if she was captured in battle. Some slaves have chestbursters in em and die horribly if left untreated.Health and intelligence are important. Smarter slaves learn faster and healthier ones can do more work per day. Fitness training can be raised through exercise, but slaves with feeble or below fitness cannot do ANY physical exercise. They'll need supplements in their food to ever get better, and that takes time. My advice, don't buy feeble slaves.Good sleeping arrangements (your bed) give your slave one extra energy per dayTry patrolling the borders of the fog while you have a slave. You may encounter a woman named Isabella, who becomes your loyal assistant for free. She is good at fighting and sex and decent at housekeeping, so she can supervise rebellious slaves, enable threesomes and take some of the housework off your shoulders, allowing more time for other things. Not sure what fires the event, but hey, free assistant. No.244
>>243The tutorial said something about an onsen, though I only found an aroma spa, figured there should be a cheap version. Also, it seems that fleeing from battle equals game over, wtf.
No.246
>>244There is a reward option to give your slave free time and send her to the hot springs for the cost of two sparks, this will make her happier and clean her. But there is no way for the slaver to go there. Also, choosing the 'slave assignemnts -> serve me -> wash me' options cleans up both the slave and the slaver. This does AFAIK require a bathroom. Bottom line is, move to decent housing.
No.249
>>231I'm deeply suspicious of the fact that to run this it makes me click a .bat file that just opens an exe that i cant find, imma need independent verification that this is no virus
No.250
>>249I know that feeling all too well, can't be too cautious round these parts. To my knowledge, there's nothing malicious in there, just shoddy programming style. The .exe referenced should be the FastQSP.exe in the FastQSP folder.
The game's open source, so if you want to check for yourself, here's some relevant github links:
Untranslated version:
https://github.com/klensy/jackAnd the game's engine, FastQSP:
https://github.com/graylor/FastQSP No.251
is there another way to make money aside for selling slaves?
No.252
Is there any sort of wiki like for Slave Maker?
No.255
This game is really good. I wish slaves had numbered stats instead of the colour coding but other then that I don't see much reason to ever go back to slave maker.
No.256
I have no idea how to build up some of the stats like acting and loyalty, is there a guide or a wiki?
No.258
>>256Acting build like any other skill, you/assistant/tutor/school trains her. From what I understand, efficiency depends on her affinity for that skill, her mood and her obedience. For obedience, you punish/threaten her for misbehavior, reward for good behavior. Think of how you would break a person.
Does anyone know how to train your slaver? You train yourself somewhat when you train your slave, but my alchemy is 0, so I can't train her that.
No.259
I could do without the cannibalism tbh. Is there any yuri/lesbian content?
No.260
>>251Nope, all your money is going to come from sales. That being said, a really high ranking slave is worth a small fortune. A B rank slave is worth 2500 sparks, an A ranked one can be sold for up to 5000, and an S+ rank slave goes for as much as 10000 sparks.
>>252>>256Wikis are only vestigial for those not versed in Russian, here's one in English:
http://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=Jack-o-nine/Gameplay/Slaves&redirect=noRegarding obedience, that is not actually a stat like in Slave Maker, but a function of several factors:
-Master's looks, strength and assertiveness vs. slave's nature, pride, intelligence and temperament (stronger master personality = more base obedience)
-Fear (effective punishments scare her into submission)
-Awareness (a willful decision to become a slave through reason, achievable through rewarding good behavior)
-Taming (basically, the subconscious feeling that you are boss, can be acquired through punshiment + stronger personality, having her wear a steel collar or rough sex)
-Habit (Sorta like pavlovian conditioning, it's built by rewarding success and punishing failure, will happen in time)
-Devotion (The slave mentality, the acceptance of 'happiness in slavery', made by high obedience + continued good mood, you need at least level 3 devotion to make your slave an assistant. Hard to achieve, but she automatically gets better mood if she has devotion.)
Use the auspex spell for details on obedience. You can also use the 'How are you feeling about me' text messages to figure out her current obedience level, just need to know which message corresponds to what.
And don't be afraid to get rough if she refuses to carry out orders, a few lessons in humility are sometimes necessary to enforce compliance.
>>258The slaver automatically improves a little every time he does something relevant, i.e. teach fighting, he becomes a better fighter and a better teacher, teach housework, he becomes a better steward and better teacher etc. It takes a while, but in time his skills will get better. Alchemy capability is determined by the slaver's magic skill. Even if you have none, you can still train it by casting auspex once per day. Learning magic will unlock some other spells, which are nice to have. You also need to have a house with an alchemy lab to train alchemy.
>>259No worries, the extreme content is largely optional. Failed slaves get butchered for meat (which is grimdark as fuck and sadly happens way too often in real life). You don't have to eat people, but virgin meat is considered a delicacy in the setting. As for yuri, while it's not possible to play a female slaver, you can demand that your slave do a threesome/lesbian show. Some slaves are true lesbians, some are bi, most are straight.
No.265
>>260Thanks for the tip about auspex. The darkest part for me is the whole devotion thing. You can fuck her up so bad that she'll be happy no matter the conditions, if you tell her a few good words.
No.267
I like the idea, but all of the art seems to be random images they found online. The images are rarely the same girl as they seem to be when you pick buy them at auction and talk to them in your house.
No.281
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>Play as Big Boss
>First girl is perfect for fighting, train to be best soldier
>she is friendly and badass
>Forget to check up her at doctor
>She dies
>Get a girl who is angry and edgy
>Boss gets depressed and uses edgy punishments
>she escapes
>mfw
man my first few attempts went pretty bad
No.295
Is there no way to adjust the volume on this game?
No.298
>>295Volume setting's in the options menu. It's the gear on the top right corner in the ingame UI, to the left of your slaver's portrait.
No.299
>>298thanks. Now how do I stop being shit?
No.301
How do I increase rating?
No.309
>>301Rating's determined by a number of things: her obedience, stats, skills and sex abilities. And unless she gets famous, she can never have a better rank than her looks, i.e. plain girls never get above D without plastic surgery. If you want more specifics on what she needs, post a screenshot of your slave's stats.
General advice: Get her to follow orders, avoid spoiling and despair, train her in a few professions and teach her how to fuck.
No.316
>>309I guess I just need to spend more time leveling her job and sex skills.
No.317
>>316Nice, looks like you got a real winner here. She could easily make B or even A. Her temperament's a tad low, though, did you buy her boots and a spiked collar? Wearing those will slowly raise it.
Definitely work on those sex skills, she looks way underfucked. Group sex is easy to level with a well-trained slave, since learning gangbang also raises double and triple penetration.
And for some reason, having an A or S-ranked non-sexual skill helps with getting a higher slave rank. Since she has talent singer, I'd recommend hiring a tutor or schooling her to until her singing skill is at a green S+. if your slaver doesn't have the artistic aptitude to train her beyond B rank. It's costly, but with a talented slave only takes a few sessions.
No.318
How do you brand a slave? I must be blind, I can't figure it out. I want to sell but without a brand she's only worth 45 sparks, no way is that happening.
No.319
I've been addicted to Slavmaker for a month now. Currently working on a max difficulty run with no Isabella.
Just wanted to drop a link to a bunch of good info straight out of Russia. Translate it with google, not the easiest to read but you'll get the idea if you've played this game long enough.
http://pastebin.com/p2mEPu30 No.320
>>318Go to Uncle Bo's in quarter of the outcasts
No.321
>>320Thanks, that did it. Next time I'll rent a dungeon.
Does "concubine" require anything besides decent sex skills?
No.322
>>321Etiquette, I believe. How do I make her better at washing me?
No.323
>>322>How do I make her better at washing me?It gets better with more obedience, possibly devotion. Might have something to do with oral skills too, since you can get BJs during.
I tested the concubine by the way. No etiquette(escort) is needed, just a certain number of sex skills.
No.327
>>323Do you just need to fill the requirements to sell a slave?
No.328
>>327Yes. If you have an assistant you can click on her and she will tell you what roles your slave qualifies for at that time. Makes it easy when you're going for something like concubine.
If you are trying to sell to some of the higher-ups in the game and they still reject your slave even though she meets requirements it's because of the charm stat. It's affected by things like clothes, cleanliness, despair level, etc etc (more info on this buried in that russian pastebin I posted above)
No.329
>>328Thanks. Any idea on how to level grace?
No.330
>>329Grace is one of those stats that a slave either has or doesn't have. No way to gain or lose it as far as I know.
No.331
>>330Is there a number of reasons why a buyer might reject a slave even though they meet the requirements?
No.332
>>331For those buyers in the residence areas and the slave guild contracts, they won't reject at all. Just brand her and meet the very minimum they ask for. If they DO reject, they will not accept that slave ever if you ask again so savescum before if you have to until you get the hang of it.
For those buyers like uncle Bo and the shops in White town, they can be so picky I gave up trying most of them. Hidden charm stat can come into play on some of these.
Then the leaders of each district have very high standards. On top of wanting A and S class slaves, you'll need to work on exoticism, style, etc. (style is most important unless they request exotic slave) Best bet is to keep her fear to a minimum while training. Keep that mood up and go for devotion while training these. They're going to take a bit of time anyways.
Try using your slaver's objectives tab and click on the links there. The special quests, guild contracts, and the leaders requests will all end up there after you take on one of their quests and can give good info.
One last tip helpful for training, click on the slave's rank and it will tell you what she needs to advance.
No.333
>>331Scars, bruises, diseases, and probably pregnancy can come into play for the pickiest of buyers also.
No.334
>>333Is there a way to efficiently make a profit with slaves? I keep going minus before my slave is acceptable with the buyers.
No.335
>>334Definitely. When you're first starting out and you want to do some quick D or C class slaves for profit, try to avoid the super arrogant types (you can end up spending too much time) or use the spell that creates fear/punish her when guilty to create a couple fear. This will turn her obedient super fast and you can get her trained quickly to rank up. It's possible to get the time down to a day or two depending on the slave and what is needed and then sell for 500 sparks.
Also avoid spending time raising any of a slave's main stats for these quick money slaves (again that can take a lot of time)
And don't get too crazy with your housing/cost of living. Try to stick to the quarter of the outcasts or serpentine place for a while if you play story mode.
No.338
I'm having a hard time raising devotion and sexual desire. How do I do it?
No.339
>>338To raise devotion keep her mood up and just keep training, it grows over time. Try and keep her despair at zero since I think that may slow it down.
For sexual desire use deny orgasm and keep training her in light sexual play. Also the constant vibrator if she will obey and keep it in. If it still won't raise she may just be frigid, some slaves never get horny.
No.342
If your Slave's spirit is broken. Is she about as useful to me as a wet sock? How do I avoid this?
No.343
>>342yeah she's useless at that point.
to avoid it don't let her temperament, nature, and pride fall too low. (pride works in reverse so green stat in pride is low pride)
Check these stats when you get a new slave. If they're all close to low at the start, you can't let the total sum of those stats fall below 3 or it breaks her. To avoid it, don't punish excessively, or force her to do things she doesn't want, or alternatively you could try to raise one or more of those stats. None of them raise quickly though, and you can't raise pride, only lower.
No.345
>>343Not entirely true, It's hard but I've seen a mostly unproblematic slave go up from fastidious to proud when she was on lax rules for a time. Winning competitions and ignoring rules can raise pride. Of course, there's quite a few ways of degrading a slave to get rid of it. Very high pride (haughty/arrogant) seems more resistant to being eroded than the mid-range stuff. Took a lot of pissing in her mouth to bring one of my arrogant ones down to size.
No.347
Does anyone have any idea how to get Yasmin from the tutorial to do anything? She seems to be immune to every punishment and won't do anything worthy of praise
No.348
Found something new out today. If you are renting a dungeon you can click here to brand your slave right at home instead of taking her to uncle bo's. This can help offset cost of dungeon if you rent one full-time. It can even take the place of a punishment, very handy early on.
>>345Guess i get rid of the slaves too quick, I just never saw pride go the other way and assumed that.
>>347I'll go mess around with this and let you know.
No.349
>>345>you can enslave LouiseGood Heavens, would you just look at the RAPE
No.350
>>347Best I could do was get her to one open bud of obedience and even that was a huge pain in the ass. She says she will do housework, and yet still won't.
I'm not going to bother with it anymore since no slave ingame is even close to being that ridiculous to control. If I had to guess I'd say getting her a point in taming or awareness is key to finally getting her to do anything. In my attempt I could get 2 fear points and 3 habit, which apparently still isn't enough.
No.351
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>>343Thanks anon.
Another question… do bruises go away in this game? I have this Beautiful, but Arrogant slave that is hard as fuck to get to behave. Mostly when I try to discipline her she rebels and I automatically hit her, leaving Bruises. Been going on for 10 days.
Tips?
No.353
>>351They go away, the speed which they disappear depends on your doctor skill. If you have an assistant with higher medic than you it most likely goes with the higher one.
You can also try things like giving slave free time, massages etc. but I have no idea if that does anything for healing faster or not. Doc skill I know for sure affects it.
If you're playing on some high difficulty character in story mode and have real low skill, the medical gown gives you +1 doctor when equipped.
No.355
fuck, now I am addicted to this game… got a slave up to B and sold her as a concubine, but then spent all my money training my assisstant in sex… bad choice
Restarting game now, attempt #14
No.358
This game has an enormous learning curve. I have been trying to get the Louise slave up to C rank for the tutorial. I preserve her virginity, teach her hand jobs, blow jobs, anal, the works. Even get her into watersports to try to diminish her pride, but I always run out of money before she's good to go. That, or I end up killing her with beatings when she refuses to be a human urinal.
No.359
>>353Is it worth ordering a slave as your assistant or just training your own, since it says that ordering one will take a long time?
No.360
>>359First off, if you are in need of an assistant and playing story mode, get Isabella to join you. She is in the border of the fogs, but you have to move out of the starter shack then visit there. She is a great assistant and the best part is she's free.
If I was going for an assistant other than her though I would probably just find one while I'm training slaves. Not that ordering slaves is bad, I've just only done it once. I ordered through the guild and it did take a while, also she came with a ton of skills pre-learned. I don't remember if she already had devotion at the start though, which is needed to make her assistant. You may have to play around in sandbox mode to see if ordering is worth it.
Again though, Isabella is the way to go at least til you want something different. She has full nature so slaves will listen to her, 3 devotion to you, and comes with skills already learned.
No.363
>>360What others have said:
Play story mode
White town - Trade area - Real Estate agency
Accept new home
Leave Home
Go to Border of the Fogs
Find sexy woman lurking in the shadows
Take her home
Assign her to buy all kinds of foods, work as a maid, cook, accountant +++
Massive help!
BTW….. is there a way to increase the Nature of a slave? I got the boots and the spiked collar, but that doesn't seem to do the trick.
No.364
>>363equipping boots and spiked collar on her will slowly increase her temperament
Here is the info I have that increases nature:
Golden Cage , assisting in the training of other slaves , the victory at the Coliseum , the liberation of the arena , disobeying the rules , if the slave reflects spell Cruciato , Sententia Veritas , Tremendio , Domini dictum , martial arts training
No.367
Logged way too many hours into this game now, but here are some of the things I've learned:
1) acquire assistant (see my previous post)
2) Buy some cheapass slave from the market
2a) Take her to the Technodome - Medical and have a checkup on her. Also do the Neoplasty + Sterile combo, that will cut down the amount of days from 20 - 5 in rehabilitaion.
3) Put her in the Boudoir, give her Normal food.
4) Don't set too strong rules in the beginning, start up with just a few. If she misbehaves, punish her accordingly (usually only a level 1).
5) Train her in Maid/Cooking/Secretary/Nurse
6) Only give her a Reward 1/day, but make sure it corresponds to her accomplishment
7) Ones you've done this one or two days, start training her in sexual acts. Fetish is good to bring down her pride, so is zoophilia.
8) Keep training her in sexual acts. Once you have a C concubine, sell her for 1000 sparks (or gamble on the slavers market).
9) Do this 2-3 times, then spend some time training up your assistant. Have her max out Maid, Cooking, Nurse and Accounting. One this is reached you can have your assistant train your next slave in these abilities, it will save you a lot of energy.
No.368
This shit keep happening, what do I do?
No.376
>>368same thing with this guy. My slaves meet all the requirements that they asked for so I don't get why they won't take them
No.377
How do you capture Fiends? I get that you have to patrol the fogs until you find a girl being raped by one, then kill it and take her as a slave, but after that? If you don't treat her for the larva, it bursts out of her, but how do you catch it and milk it for free slave feed?
No.378
>>368same god damn problem
No.379
>>377you need to rent a pen for it first, it's in white town -> real estate
No.381
>>379ok, I got one, now how do I get better at milking the thing? When Isabella goes in it can say she was successful but I can't see the milk in the storage page when clicking on my character - can you improve the odds and how do you know you're getting any?
No.382
>>376>>378There is a random chance in the code that they will reject that slave and always reject that slave. Why? Because FUCK YOU, that's why.
Just save scum when turning in slaves. Problem solved. Silly Russian devs and their stupid use of RAND().
No.383
Anyone come across the game bugging out? My game keeps getting stuck in a loop when I end a day
No.384
>>381train the slave with fiend sex, make sure you sterilize the slave if you want her on milking duty, if you don't she'll get pregnant with a parasite and die
No.385
>>383there are problems with the game crashing on windows XP
No.390
Does anyone know where I can sell this one for more than 5000 sparks, that's how much I get at the auction. I only have 48 sparks left gotta do something with her.
No.391
Is there a way to create your own girls like in Slavemaker 3?
No.392
>>390subcontractor at the guild, he should offer 6k for a S+ slave
No.393
>>390Do save-load scramming. I was also getting a lot of 4000-5000 offers on the acutions, but all of a sudden I got 8000
No.407
>>322She becomes better at washing you by improving her Petting and Oral Pleasure skills
No.411
>>382Just save scum when turning in slavesyeah that doesnt seem to work
No.413
>>411How can it not work? Are you trying to save scum at the page where it tells you they've refused? You have to save-load BEFORE that logic kicks in. The safest is BEFORE you even click on "Offer Slave". Of course they do still need to meet the minimum qualifications.
No.414
The Fame Stat. Do you have to face in the Arena for it to go up? Or can you just spar in the coliseum? Also how many times do you have to do it before the fame stat goes up by one?
No.415
How do you reduce spoiling?
No.416
>>414you have to keep winning in the coliseum - becoming champion by winning five fight won't get you legendary status even, it takes a while.
>>415Treat 'em mean. sleep on the floor/bedroll, reward sparingly, it's all about building up the habit stat. don't know about if giving them chores to do will help but it's worth trying.
No.417
>>413this is with the bug guys living in the palace i save before even talking to them then try to turn in fail reload fail reload fail then after 20 attempts i say fuck it and auction the cunt off
No.426
>>415>>416you don't need to be mean to them, when giving rewards just give them a weaker reward that the slave thinks it deserves, for example if she thinks she deserves (5), give her something less like (2)
No.428
how do i into this game?
i dont understand how active sex works and i dont understand the rating system or how to improve some of the base stats.
No.429
>>428The tutorial explains it all and I'd recommend going through it at least once as there is a lot to cover, but here goes;
-Aim of the game is to sell the girls at a high price by increasing their RANK
-RANK will never increase above natural BEAUTY stat without plastic surgery to increase BEAUTY or if they are insanely FAMOUS (through winning fights/races in the coliseum)
-All stats work on a colour coded system with GREEN at the top and RED at the bottom - GREEN being S+ and RED being F-, with the other colours being A, B, C & D.
-TRAITS are buffs/debuffs to certain things, like ACCUSTOMED TO PAIN would make beating a slave useless as it doesn't scare her, or HYSTERIC where you need to verbally reward her or she'll get all pissy. Some will give bonuses to training certain skills like NYMPHOMANIAC, others will make them harder like FRIGID. You can find clues to these by TALKING to your slave (? icon next to her portrait) if she's opened up enough - they don't often tell you their fears right away but if they really want to be a nurse they'll let you know
-Core stats are hard to increase but the game tells you how to do this if you click the portrait of the slave and click each stat down the left in turn - on the bottom of the page is a description of how it works
-Items on the right are Skills, to train these click the Mortorboard hat symbol and then the skill you want to train - they come in two types, SKILLS and SEXUAL
-Success in training depends on (a) MOOD, needs to be in the GREEN (below her portrait), (b) SUBMISSION, check the PRIDE stat, if it's too close to ARROGANT you won't get anything done, and (c) SKILL of the trainer, your character levels up slightly every time you train a skill, but you can't be taught by a TUTOR or SCHOOL like a slave can so it takes longer. TUTOR & SCHOOL training costs money though, so the best thing to do is get an assistant, train her as best you can, then shell out on higher education till she's maxed out and get her to teach your slave when you can't - you'll save money in the long run
-SEXUAL training has nothing to do with your own or your assistant's level in any of the skills, it all depends on how open and happy the slave is
-NOTE: some skills will increase several stats, saving time, eg; THREESOME will increase SEX and ANAL SEX so max that first if you have an assistant, then spam ORGY as it will increase all the group sex skills as well as SEX and ANAL SEX. BLOWJOB will also increase DEEPTHROAT and BUKKAKE, SEDUCTION and FITNESS TRAINING will increase DANCING, and most importantly SCATOLOGY will increase GOLDEN SHOWER and decrease PRIDE, so if your slave is an uppity little bitch set her as a toilet and leave her a couple days to learn her lesson
-RULES are pretty self explanatory, if your slave is new be sure to set FORCE RULES and if your own DOMINANCE skill (click your slaver portrait to check your own skills) she'll do anything you tell her
-REWARDS and PUNISHMENTS are also easy - when your slave does anything, you'll see either a RED or GREEN number under her portrait, if it's RED punish her and if it's GREEN reward her, but keep the level of what you do equal or lower to the number or you'll depress or spoil her respectively (the rewards/punishments run from 1 to 5 top to bottom)
-ACTIVE SEX is just that, you fuck her. Keep an eye on the stats to the right during, and you'll see what effect you're having. She needs to be willing to fuck you though, so you better be clean and powerful so she can't say no
Finally, get to WHITE TOWN and the CENTRAL FORUM as soon as you're able and check out the SPECIAL MISSIONS - they give you no money for completing them but do give bad-ass artifacts to equip on your slaver to make training easier.
No.438
>>368>>382I just don't get it, he wants S+ for horse sex, A for pony training and maid, and B for health and temperament. I'm giving him all this in an S+ slave and he says I don't even meet the requirements? Is age a factor or something? Does anyone know how to access the game files to see what these fuckers actually want?
No.445
>>438It could be charm as an issue, have you tried taking her to the salon/boutique, getting her all prettied up, and buying her some fancier clothing? It looks like she only classes as Common, otherwise, which may be the problem.
No.446
Hey guys, got into this game after seeing it posted here, but am having one major issue. I can't get anyone to buy my slaves. I level up my slave to blue pet and still not sellable. What do I have to do to be able to sell my pets? What do people want in a concubine, pet, nurse, ect because I don't think it's just a pure stat thing.
No.447
>>446Slave has to be branded to be sold. You either need to head to Uncle Bo's over in Outcasts part of town, or you can do it for free if you are paying for a dungeon at your home.
The job types are based on their skills, they need to have at least B (blue text) rating in the skill for the job (Nursing to be a Nurse, Alchemy for Enchantress, etc). Concubine is the odd one in that it requires a whole bunch of sexual skills to be raised up. I can't recall the exact number, but I think it's something like B in 2 skill groups, and C/D in most of the rest. Also, for higher skill slave sales, the slave must have a skill in their primary requirement of not only a minimum B rating, but equal to their slave rating if they qualify for higher.
Beyond that, be sure your slave is cleaned up before trying to sell, and if you are going for a higher rating sale, consider forking over the little extra cash to get them manicured/hairstyled/whatever as well as new clothes if they are naked to improve Charm for the pickier buyers.
No.448
>>445Tried that, no success, but I sold her to the King no problem since all he wanted was S+ rank. I just bought a vat-grown slave from the smugglers outside of the city and he seemed to like that one just fine once she was trained up to love horse cock.
I've been going through all the residential areas and selling them slaves to up my reputation but I can't figure out what this melon head wants from me. I tried feeding up a porker to Obese levels and maxing out all the other stats but he won't take her.
Also, while I'm bitching, even though I've done all the residents in the undead area they still won't let me into the tower to see the leaders. Anyone know how the reputation works? Or the gentlemans club in the Bull Quarter? I've sold slaves to every member of Taurus house and they still say I need the say so of a high ranking member to get in
No.450
>>438If I read the source code correctly, he actually demands S rank total for all the bestiality skills. She needs to widen her xenophiliac palate a little.
>>448The factions don't like each other. IIRC, Taurus and Camira are rivals, and so are Serpis and Corvus. So if you get too friendly with one (i.e. they let you into their guarded place) you're permanently alienated from the rival faction and can't ever get an audience with their higher-ups.
No.453
>>450speaking of source code, is there anything in there that tells you how to increase nature? it says winning duels and spending time in the golden cage, spent about 20 days in there and won that many duels (sparing and real fights) but the stat will not budge.
Doing a job for the pope from white town, and he demands green Iron Will
No.457
How do you get more energy? When I sleep my slave only recovers 1-2 stars.
No.458
>>457Make sure they're at a healthy weight and they're physically fit and then let them sleep in your bed or the boudoir if you're renting one.
Some slaves start of as weakened or feeble so you need to get them to exercise - watch their calories when you do through or else they'll start to starve and your health stat will drop, will also drop if you work them too had (go into red stars too often). If they start as feeble or weakened you'll need to get them on supplements, and with feeble they'll be too weak to even exercise so you'll have to let them rest at the end of the day (leave one star when you end the day), they'll gain strength after a few days this way
No.473
How long does it take to get a custom slave from the expert? I've waited a long-ass time.
No.474
>>473I've ran the clock out for 30 days and nothings ever happened, if you want something half decent just save scum the slave traders market or buy a grown slave from the smugglers from the slums, they start at B rank in every skill and stat
No.481
>>474It's for a custom slave for one of the people in the palace. I guess I should just keep browsing the slave market.
No.482
>>481Which one? I've cleared the Vatican, the Quarter of the Bull and the Serpentine Quarter if you're stuck.
Also, the pope gives you jack-shit for his Adeptus Sororitas slave, all it says is that he'll "help you out"
Maybe I should commit some crimes?
No.483
>>482It's the general in the Quarter of the Bull.
No.494
>>348I want to ask, are body statistics changing anything? Like bigger boobs=better beauty? And is there any other vagina state other than firm and virgin? I've seen "after birth" in tutorial but nowhere else.
No.497
>>494since this is Russian based game documentation may not be available for all of the things we may like. as to your question i don't think it influences beauty proper but maybe an invisible stat that judges how much they sell for. im basing this only on the color coded system of red=less and have no reasonable basis for this assumption. on an unrelated not after a certian amount of time some slaves drop back down to f- with the message this slaves spirit is broken. is there way to prevent because she was happy for a while to.
No.498
Is this game fully translated?
No.503
Huh, what am I doing wrong?
No.504
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>>497Spirit is for nature stat, if it drops to minimum then you'll get her spirit broken no matter what was her mood before.
No.506
>>503Propably some files got corrupted or you unpacked wrong, redownload maybe.
http://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php/Jack-o-nineGet main game from russian blog, then apply all files from english patch.
>>498I think it is, didn't see anything untranslated, if there is any russian it's really hard to find.
No.507
My slave won a fighting match and I want to get her a gift, she asked for a rat.
Where the fuck do I get a rat?
No.511
>>507If you rent the dungeon, there is a torture device where you can tie her up, drop her in a sarcophagus and cover her with bugs, rats, spiders and scorpions. That dialogue tells you that she won't be affected by that torture and it actually kinda excites her, like if they're a masochist you can whip them and they won't gain fear as fast as normal girls.
However it may lead to your slave becoming an all powerful undead mummy so be careful, though it will be easier to sell her in the undead quarter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL_90r0J120&t=1m42s No.512
>>506That did the trick.
Definitely bad download.
No.528
Man, this game's setting is grim.
No.541
>>528have you found out about the dead babies yet?
No.542
No.546
>>231>skills>not a horseLooks good, going to download it.
No.564
No.565
>>473Depends on how good the slave you ordered is, I once ordered a slave with max in all stats and didn't ever get her, even after 100 days, co I canceled and ordered a lower quality one and I eventually got her.
No.566
This game is really hard. But I'm having a really good time playing it. Thanks OP for making me aware of it's existence!
No.567
Does anyone know of any cheats to this game?
No.584
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>>567git gud
This is supposed to be hard, anyways there's a trainer but find it yourself.
No.585
How do I raise my own stats? No matter how much I teach my slaves, the teaching skill never seems to go above the red. No matter how much I win in the colosseum the fighting stat never seems to go above soldier. How do I git gud?
No.588
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>>585I'm not sure if you can from red, but I started sandbox with all pink and it just goes as I teach slave those skills, THOUGH it's really slow, probably like less than one progression per slave.
No.589
>>588What about all the other stuff, like housekeeping and doctor stuff? How do you improve that?
No.592
>>589Maybe I didn't say it clear: you improve by teaching slaves those skills. Or doing this by yourself like cooking a meal…
Oh, now that I think about that it's impossible if you have red skill 'cause you can't teach them anything, or even do it yourself in case of housekeeping.
No.594
>>567why? once you get max stats the game becomes pointless, it's about the journey not the destination
No.597
>>588>>585you can up everything from any lvl, it just takes time
No.598
What exactly is an assistant? Do they do clerical work, or is it several skills together?
No.599
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>>597It takes time, sure, but how you improve for ex. red housekeeper? You can't teach slave, nor do cleaning/cooking yourself.
Or it's just getting better as time goes by?
>>598Yeah, they can clean, cook, buy food, do secretary work, teach slaves etc.
Pretty much everything that slaves do, except you don't have to care about their mood.
No.614
>>584Oh shit, where can I find this trainer?
No.620
>>599If you go to the clothing shop certain men's outfits improve skills while you wear them. Off the top of my head: livery=housekeeping, aketon=combat, medical gown=nursing, wizard robes=alchemy/magic, formal suit=artistry, and I think Noble Regalia increases your attractiveness by more than the others and the… housecoat? seems to improve your mood. The rest of the red skills you can do some version of even while red, many by way of punishments.
No.623
>>231How do I appoint an Assistant? I just saved this qt3.14 from a werewolf and can't bear selling her.
No.624
>>623FUCKING WHORE BITCH JUST RAN OUT ON MEQuestion still stands, tho.
No.625
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>>623once they reach a certain level of talents i think they become available, you can basically have two slaves by switching out assistants and you can have one more in a cell.
No.626
>>623>>625Actually, I'm pretty sure you need to get three devotion.
No.640
No.649
>>623>>624Level 3 devotion. Basically, be nice to her and take her out on dates.
No.657
>>649you just need to keep her mood in the green
No.659
>>657Doesn't that just keep her form angst? I got lvl 1 devotion and couldn't get any higher, I progressed only by going outside with her.
No.681
>>243>Not sure what fires the event,Buying a house.
No.703
I'm trying to figure out how to best deal with the "horse races" has anyone spent time to figure out how to best do those?
No.704
>>703well it's really not hard, just train her to maximum in horse and get her to max endurance, and on the, well you can figure it out yourself
No.705
>>567You can use CheatEngine for money. I did it because I fucking hate being poor in video games.You don't really need cheats for anything else.
No.708
>>704i kinda figured it out, but my max skill horse was slowing down to -2km/hr or something so i was realy baffled. something about temperment. new slave works out fine just that one going in reverse :p
No.709
>>708I think age is a factor as well - I tried winning races with an immature slave and had trouble
No.711
I made a mini FAQ for this game that I never got to post. I'll dump it here.
Jack v 1.12 MiniFAQ
Apologies for how poorly organized this is, this is my first attempt ever at writing an "FAQ". Think of this more as a collection of useful "Hints and Tips" and that might be more appropriate.
Q: What do the words on the Auspex screen mean?
- Obedience as a number from -9 to 9. After that is the status of the "Masters Supremecy" relative to the slave. -5 to 5.
- Slaves Lust level. (arousal in code)
- Slaves Fearlevel.
- Slaves Angst Level (this is the one to watch for negative effects, equates to despair/depression).
- Slaves Rational Level (this represents their "rational" acceptance of being a slave.)
- Slaves Instinct Level (this represents their instinctual behavior to obey their master)
- Slaves Custom Level (this represents how accustomed they are to doing as they are told)
- Slaves Spoil Level (Goes up if you over reward a slave, has negative effects on many interactons)
- Slaves Moral Level (I think this ought to be "morale" in the source code, but represents their devotion)
With the exception of Obedience most of these numbers are rated on a scale of 0 to 4. Essentially you want more of everything except for Angst. Fear in and of itself isn't a bad trait to have in many cases, but it often comes with Angst, so a high fear indicator represents large amounts of previous abuse and threatening even if Angst is relatively under control.
Q: What does explaining to a Slave her fate do?
It can potentially increase the "Rational" stat. Your domination (aura) plus the slaves intellect have the slaves pride and any current rebellious attitude (I think this may be negative obedience) subtracted from it. The results will be from 0 to 3 rate increase. You get the best rate increase only if the slaves Obedience is at 4 or higher already. Best used on slaves with high Intelligence and Pride (well, low pride from our perspective - you want at least Proud or above rating. Arrogant and Haughty will basically concieve no effect, the same with stupidity)
Q: What does encouraging a Slave do?
This can dramatically improve the "mood" of a slave. The effect is based on your supremacy plus the slaves devotion (Moral) rating. It's best to use this before training a slave so that you can get their mood up to improve their dilligence in doing tasks and hence be able to reward them better and further increase mood.
Q; What does threatening a Slave do?
Probably the worst interaction from a game perspective. It can potentially increase the Slaves Fear value as well as your domination of them at the cost of a lot of "mood". If you are going to use this, it's best to use it before you use the Explain interaction to boost the effects of both.
Q: What does giving a Slave a new name do?
Obviously, it gives them a new name. It also reduces mood by their Nature and Pride. Don't use this with a new slave, there are unfortunately no upshots to this other than being a dick. Which… is probably appropriate.
Q: How do I manage my Slave's weight?
First, make sure you have atleast rank 2 Medical (buy the doctors outfit for yourself if you need to, it gives +1 to this stat). This allows you to see your Slaves "fat" rating next to the calorie counter on their character screen. Simply manipulate calories on a daily basis until you achieve the desired result. Fat appears to have a ranking of 0 to 5 before going up/down to the next tier.
Q: How are calories consumed over night?
The following calories are deducted "behind the scenes" every night. This happens before calculations of starvation or metabolism.
- 1 Calorie by default.
- 1 Calorie if Slave is not a Loli.
- 1 Calorie if the Slave is pregnant.
- 1 Calorie if the Slave is lactating.
- 1 Calorie if the slave has a parasite.
- 2 Calories if the Slave is laying eggs.
So as you can see, a Lactating, Egg Laying adult Slave will consume 5 calories by default every night.
No.712
>>711Continued -
Q: What are the effects of Metabolism on a Slave?
If your Slave has body fat and excess calories at the end of a night then your metabolism will remove excess calories down to 0 based on it's ranking. This is after other overnight deductions. This is why it's harder for Slaves with a good metabolism to get fat than ones with a weak metabolism.
Q: How do you fix starvation?
This can be annoying if you have Slaves that are already feeble, or ones that have body modifications that consume calories. The easiest way to fix this as well as increase their Stamina is to "over feed" them until their fat level is above 1 and keep doing so. A good metabolism will make this harder than you expect. Also, starving a slave intentionally will make it's Rational stat increase by the starvation rate. Dangerous to their health but gets compliance quickly. If you're going to have an egglaying, lactating slave, then make sure they have high Stamina or they will quickly injure their health by doing any work other than sitting there.
Q: What are the effects of various foods?
Not as much as you might think. Mostly it revolves around cost with the following exceptions:
- Fiends cum will gradually increase a Slaves perversion. They will have bad moodlets until their perversion gets high enough however. It's also "free" as in it costs no Sparks. A good hint is once a Slave stops complaining about the food, they're probably not going to complain about scat or bukkake parties either.
- Table scraps will give a positive moodlet if the food quality is higher than their Pride (inverse). Also it adds a random amount of calories for the next day.
- Fresh food adds a positive moodlet. Also it costs 2x as much.
Q: What do vitamins do?
If your medical skill is higher than the Slaves stamina than it adds an additional Stamina gain over just over feeding. Definately doesn't work like how the tool tip describes. Also it costs 1 spark per day. Yes, this does mean you can give a Stamina bonus to Slaves who are healthy if your Medical is high enough.
Q: How does Slave healing work?
This is pretty straight forward. Slaves with higher stamina heal faster than those who don't. Your Medical skill as well as your Assistants nursing skill are added to this. Poor hygene when you end the day has a negative impact on wound healing as expected.
Q: What are the effects of Slaves menstral cycles?
On the day of their period they get a negative moodlet. Counting 9 days from this day, you have a 7 day period to inseminate a Slave if you want to get her pregnant, or force her to start laying eggs.
Q: How many eggs will a Slave lay if she gets pregnant?
Their age (constant) + stamina + random 3-6 + their fat level.
Q: How much milk and cream will a Slave produce?
The actual formula is very long and kind of derpy. To summarize however = The larger a slaves boobs and the older she is and the more body fat and mood she has, the more milk and cream she produces. Makes sense for a cow huh?
No.713
>>712Continued -
Q: What the hell do I do with all these eggs and milk and cream?
Don't worry about it. The games inventory system is terrible, but every night if you run out of space in your fridge it will start deleting milk, eggs and cream until you have space available for groceries. I know, I think it's a bad system too.
Q: How do you reduce Angst?
Easy answer, You need high mood. A high "Empathy" value also helps. Low mood and low Empathy will increase Angst dramatically.
Q: How do I get Devotion (Moral) up on my Slave?
This goes up over night. The only real requirements are that the slave cannot have any Angst and must have a positive Mood before going to bed. Fear can screw this up because it reduces Mood before this effect gets applied. The wedding dress has a hidden daily boost to this. So it's very much worth acquiring if you want to train a slave up to A/S+ class.
Q: How do I get my Slaves Stamina back up to Healthy?
Probably the most annoying thing is fixing an unhealthy Slave. First make sure they have some body fat, this is important. Then ensure that you over feed them so that they have calories left at the end of the day and above their minimum required due to factors like age, lactation, egglaying, etc. Finally, try to give them the free time reward at the end of the day with at least 1 star of energy left - this has a significant impact on their Stamina gain. If you find your slave is still not healing up quickly enough, check to make sure she doesn't have a disease or is pregnant (both reduce stamina gain) and possibily put her in the cryostorage and train your assistant in nursing. Your medical skill and your assistants nursing skill can provide a bonus to healing feeble/weakened slaves. Also, if your Medical skill is at least blue, then you can use Vitamins to provide an additional bonus.
Q: What good is fame for?
Famous Slaves can be trained up to ranks higher than their Beauty value. Also, they sell for more and your Brand Reputation will increase. So yes, you can even train Isabella up to S+ rank if you get her started on the Gladiatrix pits on day 1.
Q: What good is the Deny Orgasm rule?
When you don't allow a Slave to orgasm it builds up their arousal rate (arousal rate also decrease mood over night, so be careful). When she finally does release then her mood will go up significantly. Also, if you have the deny orgasm rule on and your Slave doesn't cum (the stimulation is below her obedience to you) then she will gain an increase towards Sensitivity. If however she cums anyway, then she will gain an increase towards Temperment (as well as Sin and needing to be punished). This can be an interesting cycle if you continuously reward a cumming Slave with sex and then punishing her with shame.
No.714
>>713I liked this game a lot. It's inspired me to make an updated and better web based version of the game. I'm still in the process of coding the engine but hope to have a playable prototype done by the end of next month.
Pics are screenshots for game under development. As you can tell I'm recycling a lot of art from this game as place holder art until I can line up an artist. The game will feature most of the activities that you can do in Jack, but fleshed out quite a bit (Earning money for racing pony girls, breeding monsters with pet girls, earning money with gladiators and being able to field teams of slaves in the arena).
Also I'm adding more RPG like elements, battle system that makes sense, RPG elements to most of the contest activities, and hoping to add the ability to buy and run businesses (like a cow girl dairy farm).
I have a huge amount of ideas… just toiling away here coding!!!
No.715
>>714Loving the countable bars on the interface. The game's color-only level indicators aren't very colorblind-friendly.
No.716
>>715Thanks. I didn't want to do flat numbers, so the pips are sort of an "approximate" still. I might switch over to flat meters however without pips. Can't decide, but I think the later might look better.
It's cool for now though.
Right now I'm coding in the slave generation/inventory system. I'm getting rid of the slave auction part for now, but I've added multiple places to buy slaves of different qualities and they don't all restock regularly (daily).
Also, I will eventually code in some dungeon exploration when I get the battle system working so that you can find rare drops and girls that way too.
No.719
>>714That all sounds awesome. Consider me excited.
No.721
I've made some improvements from the other day:
- Slave stock generation is complete (this was a big deal actually, had to mock out slave generation routines
- Added selectable interface for viewing slaves you want to buy
- Added rank evaluation for slave stats
- bunch of new UI components added, will probably get much user in other screens.
No.722
>>721You work fast. Are you considering making your own thread about this?
Also, what do you think of build-me-a-slave quests that are offered to the player randomly? In Jo9t, the game got a bit stale once I cleared out all of the residential slave quests. I know there are still the ones from the praetors and their bishops but I was thinking of people going up to you and offering you to train them certain slave builds. Like the one Angelika contracts out to you, except they're more high-spec. Failing to present what they want on the deadline would decrease the player's rep a bit.
No.723
>>722>>722I've been thinking a lot about different modes of play. I want to have some meta-games such as -
Being able to get a "job" for your slave that is a career path that depends on you training them.
Train a girl in "pet skills" for instance and she could do jobs like:
Lvl 1 - Street Performer (begging, doing tricks)
Lvl 2- Milk Maid (masturbates animals for cum)
Lvl 3 - Animal Show Performer (donky show)
Lvl 4 - Pet Escort (hire out petgirl)
Lvl 5 - Monster Show Performer (minotaurs, orcs)
The jobs themselves will pay you money every day she works, plus possibily give the pet a little bit of fame. The fame of your slaves will have a greater influence on your brand, which will then unlock more content.
Jobs should also offer you mini quests as well, like buying a certain accessory for your slave, or training them a skill.
I will still have the ability for you to outright sell your slaves, but I am trying to make your income come more directly from using them (as slaves) than just training them and turning them around.
I'm also going to let you have something like 4 slaves at a time so you can have some working and some training as you play.
Maybe I should make a thread about this?
No.724
>>714>>721>>723Good good, there should be more games of this kind!
>>722Beginning is always fast, we'll see how far his motivation will go
No.725
>>724Am I still at the beginning?
I actually have a fair bit of engine stuff coded in the back ground, most of what I've been futzing with for the last couple of days is just UI programming - which is annoying as hell.
Most of the next couple of days will likely be spent on sorting out the slave data storage (should be trivial), and then building out the stupid slave character screens.
I need screens for:
Stats/Skills
Inventory
Body Modifications
Jobs
Behavior
UI programming is really the worst :(
No.726
>>725What tech are you using? Programming Language, Libraries, ect?
No.727
>>726I'm writing it in HTML5/JS. The technology stack looks like:
jquery.js
require.js
Backbone.js
Underscore.js
Crafty.js
I have a Unity license and I was originally going to use that but then when I started looking at what I really wanted to do, pretty much EVERYTHING could be accomplished with HTML5 so I said, meh, wtf why not?
No.728
>mfw another game designer comes to /hgg/>clearly knows what he's doingI have so many questions to ask you, but I don't know where to start…
How do I get good at programming? I'm using AS3 to make a interactive flash with tentacles, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm only used to animating, and even there I'm a novice.
>>723I think it's a good idea to make your own thread either here or on /agdg/ (I don't think /agdg/ allows NSFW images without spoilering them). It might even funnel up some traffic into /hgg/ and /agdg/.
No.729
>>728>How do I get good at programming?- Copy stuff.
- Change it.
- Break it.
- Figure out why it broke.
- Fix it.
- Repeat.
Every developer will pretty much tell you the same thing. I first started off eons ago hacking MUD's in C and every thing I did broke something. It hasn't changed much honestly, I just break more interesting things these days.
>I'm using AS3 to make a interactive flash with tentacles.I don't actually know much about Action Script (other than it's derived from ECMA script) so I'm afraid I can't give you much advice about it. The way I learned to program was doing first boring stuff in C/C++ then moving onto scripting jobs (perl, python, php) then to Java, then .NET C# - Obviously I picked up ECMA/JS along the way (which is what I am using now to make this game).
Honestly, I think the best thing you can do is try to get some source files of something that is similar to what you want to do and then hack it apart to learn.
No.741
>>728>How do I get good at programming?The same way you git gud with anything, sadly it's not by sitting on your ass, but spending as much time with it as you can.
Go get some tutorials online and learn.
No.817
>>741If i may try to code a game in rpg maker. Once you do that you have the basics of progamming. I.e(ifs and loops), after that pick a language and learn it. Extra: learn C or assembly if you want to really control a PC carefull this are harder languages
No.836
>>712>Table scraps will give a positive moodlet if the food quality is higher than their PrideIs there anything else at all in game that the cooked food quality has an effect on?
Also thanks for FAQ, I thought I knew just about everything from my endless hours of playtime and I still learned a couple new things.
No.837
>>836>>836I just looked at the code again and as far as I can tell eating high quality food will make you heal slightly faster if you're wounded.
It would seem like it should affect mood, but as far as I can tell, I didn't see any mood modifiers for it.
The best thing I think if your assistant lays eggs and can be milked is this:
'Zrazy with stuffed potato with onion and egg [<<$rating[4]>>]', 'vegetables', 'eggs', 'spice', 'milk'
Buy vegetables and spices and you'll get an 'A' class meal for dinner. This will improve your slaves mood if you feed her these scraps (assuming your assistant is a capable cook).
No.838
>Ordered a maxed-out slave from that guy in the guild around day 700.
>It's day 1962 and it still hasn't arrived.
No.839
>>838AFAIK that doesn't actually work.
No.841
No.842
>>841Well, it IS possible, but from looking at the code you need something terrible like a 1 in 16384 chance to get the right stat rolls.
so yeah, good luck with that :D
No.843
>>842Sorry, it's actually worse than that. I read something wrong.
Try 1 in 35,831,808.
No.889
>>843Fucking russians love their RNG
No.901
Does anyone know how to see how big my fog fiend is?
In the slaver's objectives it says they can die of old age, I need one to be adult for one of the special missions, but no idea how to check if its ready or not.
No.902
>>901I don't think there is a way to see that, but you'll get some flavor text as an overnight event when he morphs into his next life stage.
No.903
>>902So if I haven't had any messages yet he is still at the smallest stage?
No.925
>>903Yes, or you missed the messages.
You need to milk him with your slaves in order for him to grow to the next stage.
No.928
>>925I finished that mission today, thanks for the help.
No.1019
Just downloaded it, any words of wisdom? Took the easy tutorial slave. Refused to do clerical work on the first day and I slapped her across the gob only to find out she's a masochist.
She's miserable and trying to make her do boring shit usually gives the the messege that she's already better than me at it. She's never enthused about sex training and actual sex is apparently a mini-game. Despite being a masochist she gets turned off when I slap her around so it's left me kind of confused.
No.1020
>>1019click on her portrait then select housework, if she does good reward her equal to how well she did, if it says she is guilty punish her, masochists don't respond well to pain so don't spank her, shame or berate her.
She will then start doing stuff to get rewarded, don't reward her too much, only what she deserves.
For sex: set deny orgasm and use vaginal beads on (I think you can buy the beads at the Steal Rose in the Necropolis district). As she gets hornier she will become more responsive to sex training.
I don't really know what the value of active sex is except to discover your slave's trait (like masochism or exhibitionism), I do know however that relaxed sex improves some of her sex skills.
No.1022
What are the requirements to make an 'assistant?' what about for 'pet' or concubine?
No.1023
>>1022To qualify for a job a slave needs to be ranked level B in the skill required for that job. If you have an assistant clicking on her displays the jobs your slave qualifies for at the bottom.
Assistant = secretary
pet = pet
concubine = sex skills + escort (maybe dancing I don't remember.)
No.1029
>>1020Managed to get the hang of her and pass, the jump in difficulty from easy to normal seems insane. The loli cunt won't do a damn thing or when she does it is with the utmost incompetence, all but the most gentle of beatings scar or kill her. Only thing I've been able to do right is keep her at a healthy weight. On top of her being feeble so I have very few opportunities to actually make any progress.
No.1030
>>1029I had a slave recently who became unconscious after I berated her for sucking at housekeeping, low health can really fuck you over.
No.1031
>>1030Yelling at someone so hard it knocks them out sounds great.
No.1032
So the girl likes sweets, she performs well, reward level 5. So I give her a sweet, she goes form pessimistic to unhappy.
I haven't given her any sweets in the last few days, I don't understand.
No.1033
Guild contract wants a D rank maid, but bitch won't take her. What do.
No.1034
>>1033If they won't take her they won't take her, you need to find someone else to sell to.
I'm not sure how it works, but sometimes they just don't like the slave, stuff like cleaning her, fame, beauty and taking her to the salon increase the likelihood that they will take her.
No.1035
>>1034>give me a slave to train for a contract>WHO IS THIS CRACK HO GET THIS SLUT THE FUCK OUT I AIN'T PAYING FO THIS SHIT No.1036
>>1029Give her Supplements until her health improves than you train her fittest further
>>1032Was it the same treat you gave to her last time?
She maybe having her "time" or she could've gotten sick have check out.
>>1033The maid skill need to be at least blue
No.1038
>>1036Even if I manage to get her to calm she resets to pessimistic in the morning and it says she's starving despite being at a healthy weight on a medium diet+supplements for the last 15 days.
No.1039
>>1038Have her health checked out, she might have a parasite. Also she might have one of the metabolism traits that makes her lose weight faster than normal, are you giving her your leftovers? It might help.
No.1040
>>1036Thanks, it wasn't blue enough.
No.1041
>>1039Just a weak constitution. Had to reset again. When I talk to her she wants better living conditions but there is no way I can get her to C rank in 20 days.
No.1043
>>1038>>1039Starving is usually related to calorie deficit.
Look at this post
>>711Slaves don't need to have negative calories to lose weight, and if they go negative they will starve until you over feed them enough.
It's best to try and keep 1 fat on your slave at all times at least, otherwise you'll also run into problems if they have feeble or weak constitutions (they will not gain increases over night if they have zero fat).
No.1046
>>1041I finally managed it, I think the constant gymnastics was causing it, I never could get her a fourth star of stamina for the day. Even then I only just barely got her to c rank in time by desperately fucking her ass for 4 days straight only taking breaks for baths.
No.1058
Anyway to lower Brand Status?
No.1068
No.1198
>>239the mediafire link that provides the base game for jack is down can someone upload it to mega?
No.1244
>>1198Can not confirm, mediafire link is just fine for now.
Just sold this loli to Mr. President after the Taurus king rejected her. Prez now has a new heir, and I got ten thousand sparks out of it.
And yes, as the green fetishism skill might imply, she is a fully trained human toilet. She unfortunately came out of the market with arrogant pride out and some ego adjustment was required. I did not expect her to make it this far, her stats were good but not great, but I managed to raise her empathy and temperament them with items, enforced silence and orgasm denial.
No.1258
>>239whats the password for megaupload?
No.1281
>>231Any ways to sell girls for full price?
I have a C level clerical worker but cant find anyone in any of the houses look for an assistant at a C rating.
No.1291
Is there anyway to get it to run on mac?
No.1316
This game is damn hard. I can't really figure out what I need to specifically raise in order to improve a slave's rank. I'm losing so much damn money since I need to rent a house for the washroom and kitchen.
No.1317
>>1291Might just need to emulate windows. I'm on Linux and it works fine in WINE.
No.1320
>>1316Open the slave window (not her training page, the one from her portrait on the right hand side of the screen). Look up towards the top left where it says what her current rank is, then click the current rank letter and it should pop up a window explaining what skill types need to go up to level her higher, or if her basic traits are too low to even bother. It is entirely possible to get a shit slave that will be more work than profit to make saleable, if your slave is rank F- and says she needs basic traits to rank up, you may as well take her to the butcher or otherwise get rid of her.
No.1321
>>1320Ah okay, I'll try and remember that. Thanks. Also, how do you raise her endurance or whatever it is that allows her to recover energy quicker or have a larger energy pool or whichever it is? I know during the tutorial I could have her do gymnastics in the house so is it a house thing or is there another way to get her to exercise? This loli I have is a pain in the ass since it seems I can only work on her skills every other day due to her energy.
No.1325
>>1321If your personal energy is higher than hers, and she is not Feeble, you can train her for Fitness. She also gets some minor gain credit whenever she is trained in Dancing or Martial Arts. If her health is very low you can add supplements to her diet, but those can be too expensive early game.
No.1326
>>1325Almost forgot - if your own Petting skill is high enough, you can give her a 2 point Erotic Reward -> Massage which will transfer one energy point from you to her. Depending on her traits this can also improve her mood, making her learn more efficiently.
No.1334
>>1320So…
Where would one find this butcher?
No.1337
>>1334White Town->Trade Square->Gastronomicon->Butchery
Slaughter slave for meat option sells the slave to the butcher (he'll pay according to the weight, probably around 10 sparks), Ask to butcher slave and you pay 5 sparks to the butcher and he gives you the slave's meat when he's done.
No.1340
>>1337Looks like you got that 1337 post.
No.1343
Got this from HF
"For the legit way(as the wiki says):
Purchase a bastard sword, (train yourself in the colliseum if you use the 'master nerd') and get the technique 'Roundhouse kick' at the Colliseum.
Go do the Patrol border of the fogs and try to find the NPC called Young fiend(I recommend saving your game once you found one)
Use the roundhouse kick on it if blocks appears below its avatar to kill it.
As a reward you get a slave that you can sell for money to the slavemarket (The amount of sparks you get depends on the quality of the slave)"
I tried that out and it seems pretty awful. It took me 20 minutes to come across a young fiend and even then I almost lost to it. Is there some quick and easy way to increase your combat stats to be able to do this method quicker?
No.1345
>>1343If you're playing johny then I recommend you steer clear of combat until you have enough money and the chance to train your physical strength up to max. It's also easier to simply buy an aketon and equip it, it will give you pink level in fighting ability and you can just train your slaves in fighting and slowly raise it that way while playing normally, then fight in the border when you reach blue level.
No.1350
>>1345I was just playing the first/easiest character. I assume you train strength at the Colosseum? I'm trying to use that method to make a ton of money in the start so that I can trade slaves with ease but maybe I shouldn't do that.
No.1353
Why is housekeeping sometimes greyed out and sometimes not? I know my skill is higher than my slave's
No.1354
Please someone tell me there is a mod for infinite money. I really really like my slave and do not want to sell her but im running out of money.
No.1357
>>1353Can't clean a house that isn't dirty. Just take any action that makes the house slightly messier, and you can train housekeeping again on the next action.
No.1358
>>1354Cheat engine.
Also you can just make her your assistant or put her in the cryochamber.
No.1359
>>1350It's a really terrible method to make money at the start. For starters, most slaves won't net you more than ~30 sparks, and if you get injured the costs of curing yourself in the technosphere easily outweigh the gains from scouting the border of fogs, and you also need to take into account the costs from rent and food, unless you're still in the slums in which case maybe you could actually make a profit from the border of fogs, but it's a terrible idea. Training slaves to D rank is much faster and a more reliable method to earn money.
No.1365
>>1359I've just been using the border of the fogs as a means to get a slave rather than at the market or contracting work.
Can you even train slaves well from the slums? I didn't go through all of the locations so I could be wrong but it seemed like you couldn't wash yourself or cook food in the starting house. Also, do you just always pay rent on a place or do you eventually get the option to buy a place?
No.1366
>fuck up the first 4-5 tries
>only get rather ugly slaves, can't train them over C
>finally get one I can really work with
>turn her S+
>want to sell her but no idea how, never sold a slave before
>figure out that I need to brand her first
>all the people in the residences want B slaves max and would pay 2500 max for them
>auction gives me up to 2000
>can't find any way to make more than 2500, feels like all the training from B to S+ was a waste of time
>sell her to the gentlemans club because he implies that this will increase my reputation
>still make about 500$ gain but meh
Will selling her to that club really increase my reputation? does that enable selling my slaves to kings and people like that?
Also, how do I increase the skills of myself? Is that even possible?
No.1367
>>1366To improve your own skills, train slaves in the desired skill and it will SLOWLY increase. Don't rely too much on this though, just keep training and it will happen, but don't expect to grind yourself to all green within the first 10 or 20 slaves.
Next, to get good prices in the auction you need reputation, to get reputation you need to sell slaves. If you go to diary in your character's screen you can check how popular your brand is and how well known you are in each district, once you get popular enough in a district they'll let you into their special building and there you can find people that will buy high quality slaves, A and above. I suggest training D-C-B tier slaves and selling them to people from the districts until your brand is popular enough. Going for an S+ for your first slave is way overkill.
No.1368
>>1367Yeah, I realize that now, too. Next time B is the limit. Did I at least get some extra reputation for giving an S+ to the gentleman club or doesn't overkill make a difference when it comes to reputation increase?
No.1369
>>1368I am not sure but I think the better the slave, the more your reputation will increase. Again, check out the diary to know exactly how popular you are (in the game's normal 7 color coded scale).
No.1372
>>1367Does doing any slave raise reputation or does guild work and/or selling to the guild not raise rep?
No.1373
So I noticed my girl was a secretary or something and rank D so I went to the real estate office to sell her. The lady said she fit the requirements but wasn't presentable or whatever she says. So I took my girl to the salon and got her all the fixings. Bought her a gown, lace gloves, and high heels. Slept to go to the next day to ensure the wardrobe bonuses. Lady at real estate tells me she isn't feeling my slave and refuses. Fuck her.
No.1376
>>>1373
When NPCs such as the doctor or the real estate office woman refuse your slave, I found it is because they are not trained enough in sex. Try to get her yo D-Rank in every sexual ability before talking.
Also, if they've refused her once, they will refuse her all the time afterwards, so be careful / save before offering the slave.
No.1377
>>1376>they will refuse her all the time afterwardsSurely that can't be intended.
No.1379
>>1377That's what I wanted to think about the stupidly long wait time when ordering a maxed-out slave from the guy at the guild.
No.1381
How many scenes are in this? It seems like I've seen 20 or so of them and it just seems like I only run into those 20.
No.1382
So i have this issue where i end up getting a slave that gets stuck on calm and no matter what i do positive or negative she just stops giving a fuck and zones the fuck out on everything. What the fuck can I do?
No.1386
>>1381There are a ton of possible scenes, but they are split by age (milf, girl, loli) and by hair/eye color. Some have more possible images than others, and many can fall under a generic pic for some scenes. Odd hair colors (pink, blue, even red) seem to have a few more unique options than others.
>>1382Slave might be mindbroken. If they keep on zoning out, they are pretty much useless and may not be able to be repaired - at least I never found a way. Off to the butcher they go.
No.1388
>>1386I managed to pull out a slave from that phase a couple of times but i do not know what I did to do such a thing.
No.1389
>>1382I got this in the tutorial, dropped me from C to F- instantly and it was pretty irritating. Eventually I noticed she had "Apathetic" as a trait, I looked into that and found it was because I crushed her spirit with too many rules, I thought I was supposed to teach her to adhere to all of the rules slowly over time, I was VERY WRONG.
Finally just decided "heck with it" and moved on to story mode before I felt like I understood anything, and I'd recommend that to anybody. Was pretty scary when the wiki's advice got my first slave to attack me, I was unarmed and untrained but somehow got through it and the local hospital has been seeing a large influx of massive-breasted nurses to tend to the hobo's living in the same slums as me. I'm surprised how much I like the lore and setting of the world, this game is great.
No.1390
>>1389Yea, i just want there to be a way to get them out of that. I read that you have to do a lot of golden cage to raise their spirit but holy fuck this needs an update to that system. "Congrats, the slave you have is now completely worthless and all that time spent is fucked" Should never be an option.
No.1396
Ok so what can I do to turn her S+?
I already tried having her do gymnastics all day every day but that didn't increase her endurace or physique. And she's getting signs of starvation so I'm getting scared of keep letting her train like crazy all day.
Increasing her nature also doesn't work. I even had her win a goddamn race and that didn't increase her courage one bit. Also tried golden cage, also didn't increase her nature.
Did I somehow fuck her up? Will she never become S+?
No.1397
>>1396Keep making her train, every slave can eventually get green endurance. If you can't fix spineless, she won't ever be able to become S+.
No.1398
>>1397Ok, so whats the best way to fix spineless?
No.1399
>>1396-27f and plump? What?
No.1401
>>231How much of the extreme content is actually optional? Love me some maledom but the cannibalism, piss and dogs aren't really my thing.
No.1402
>>1401Actually, most of the extreme stuff can be avoided. You do not have to force your slave to eat shit or fuck a dog, though it can be useful to do so to break excessive pride.
There are however a few high-ranking customers who ask specifically for extreme stuff. One wants a loli toilet, another wants someone accustomed to bestiality, but you also have requests like 'a girl that looks good with a heavy bolter'. Thankfully, there are no proper scat graphics in the vanilla gameAs for the cannibalism, the fluff says that it happens sometimes in Eternal Rome, because food is scarce - it's essential an inter-dimensional hub that many can enter but it is very difficult to leave, everything agricultural has to be imported and more and more hungry mouths keep pouring in. So only people (i.e. not slaves) can afford decent meals. You can butcher slaves for meat (automatically happens if she dies), but it is not very profitable. Usually, you want to keep your slave alive because you won't get much return of inverstment from a corpse.
Yeah, it's a very grimdark setting.
No.1403
>>1399I know, right? It's fucking retarded.
No.1404
No.1406
>>1398Try rewarding her with Golden Cage free time, having her spar and fight as a gladiatrix should help, but Nature is difficult to raise.
No.1407
>>1406Ok so I have never done fighting before. For some reason the purple heart is always at 0 for my slave. Why is that and how can I fix that? She always loses right away because of this.
No.1408
So how does game compare to Slave Maker?
No.1412
>>1408There's no story to the individual slaves and no random events from wandering around the town, but apart from that it's better in every way. Breaking a slave in isn't just grinding obedience until she lets you shit in her mouth, you gotta take into account enough variables that it stands as a game on it's own even if you don't have your dick out.
No.1413
>>1390It's not that hard to avoid. If a slave has shit health, you don't beat the shit out of her. If a slave has shit Nature and Temperament, you don't erode her Pride.
>>1399The fatter they are, the higher the negative you need to get them to drop down to the next weight bracket.
>>1407Purple heart is morale, and the base value of it is a multiplier of the girl's Nature by the look of it, so with a nature of zero she won't fight shit. I'll check the code for other ways to raise Nature, if I can remember what the fucking half-Russian code calls it.
Okay, Nature ('ego' in the code) is modified by fuck all. Golden Cage increases it, winning in the arena increases it by the same amount as five Golden Cage rewards. Conversely, it's reduced by rape, angst, pet rule, and wearing a dog/leather/slave collar, anal tail, pony plume, or ponygirl harness - so if you've got any of those going on you're not going to be making any progress. I've got a funny feeling that's what your problem is.
Just keep sending her to the Golden Cage - as long as there isn't anything reducing her Nature you'll get there eventually, pretty sure within ten times. Ideally you want a slave with good Nature in the first place.
No.1414
First thing I did after making enough money to live off of for a few months was to pick a slave for myself and train her up as my assistant (because Isabella just feels like cheating to me) and I was incredibly disappointed to find that the moment you peg them as an assistant, they might as well not even be a person anymore, they become a soulless robot who just cooks and cleans. It sucks because I liked her so much! Nymphomaniac dog girl constantly begging for sex, but I kept her a virgin right up until her graduation to assistant where I let a dog break her cherry. I grew so attached, and now she's nothing but a picture that pops up whenever she does stuff. I mean, I like the pictures she uses, but I'm all sad now.
No.1415
>>1414You can swap her back to slave whenever you want to have some fun with her, if you've got a slave already just stick her in a cryo tube.
Otherwise, just use your imagination. I've got a pervert lesbian assistant who I consider my wingman, who would probably abuse the slaves as much as I do.
No.1416
>>1415Imagination struggles when every time I go to have sex with her, it literally tells me how bored she is and that she's just going through the motions. All that lust raising clothing on a nymphomaniac… I was expecting at worst to just not have to worry about her mood or stats anymore.
Oh well, the swarm of huge breasted nurses must continue to flood the overworked hospitals, slave; switch to power saving mode! Maybe eventually I'll just completely ruin a slave emotionally and replace her with that.
No.1417
Guys I've been poking around in the files for a while now and I think I've got a pretty decent grasp of the code, so if anyone wants tweaks to the game let me know and if it's doable I'll throw up a modified jack.qsp for you. In the version I play, I disabled the thing that makes you stop gaining reputation with some houses because you're too close to others, as well as creating a specialized mage character to play in Story mode.
Keep in mind that if the game is modified at all, previous saves no longer work.
No.1418
>>1417That sounds neat. It would be great if as
>>1414 pointed we could make the assistant something more than an automated cleaning machine. I'd also enjoy it if there was a way to use the slave you have trained in some way other than just the standard selling her somewhere, like being able to give your slaves jobs to earn money, and keeping multiple active slaves this way. I have the feeling that this would require much more than some tweaks, though.
Alternatively, you could also post that modification you made, I'd enjoy a mage character and the possibility to gain reputation with every house at the same time instead of getting locked out of half of the houses.
No.1419
>>1418I'm pretty sure that'd be possible, but it's pretty damn ambitious to make anything that wasn't incredibly shallow. Pretty sure I could, say, make it so you can put slaves into jobs in places that makes you a passive income, but it'd be extremely bare-bones - it'd pretty much be like putting your slave into cryo-storage but you get paid for it based on her skills. If that's the sort of thing you're after I can whip it up, but if you want something more detailed I'm going to need more details to go on.
Anyway, here's the version with the unlimited rep and Mage background. You should also be able to reach max rep with all houses at once with this, including promotion to Patrician. The Mage background replaces the nerd - he's got 4 levels in magic and two each in fighting and medicine, but he's bottomed out in pretty much everything else. It's still very doable because magic is fucking broken as shit. Tremendio can turn all but the most stubborn of slaves into a whimpering ball of terrified obedience, magical brands slowly build habit, and being able to brew love potions as soon as you get your hands on fiend mucous is ridiculously powerful. He uses the unused 'vampire' master image that comes with the game.
I also took off the mood debuff from formal clothes because for some reason it can sometimes get 'stuck' and you have to live with it forever, even after you take the clothes off, and I can't figure out what's causing the bug. Drove me nuts. Also keep in mind that this won't be compatible with any existing slaves, nor will saves made with this be compatible with the unmodified game - nothing I can do about it, far as I can tell the game checks the checksum and refuses to load saves if it doesn't match.
To use it, replace (ideally after backing up) jack.qsp in the Jack-o-nine-tails folder.
http://www.filedropper.com/jack_1 No.1428
>>1417All I fucking want is for the whole part about slaves being broken to be removed. I think i do ok and then all the sudden my loli turns into fucking Squall about everything I do. "You want cake?" Whatever, "Do you want a pony?" Whatever.
No.1436
>>1428I don't think the mindbreak mechanics are that hard to avoid, but hey, I don't judge. In this version, slaves cannot be mindbroken.
http://www.filedropper.com/jack_3For those with the same problem but don't want to start over with a new version: Vanilla mindbreak mechanics, which I just refreshed my knowledge of while finding and disabled them, are thus: If a slave's temperament plus nature plus pride are less than three, she breaks. If her temperament plus nature is less than two, she breaks. For temperament and nature, red is 0, pink is 1, purple is 2, and so on. For Pride, Green is 0, light green is 1, and so on.
So don't rush to break her pride if she's got shit nature and temperament, and be careful with the nature-eroding stuff (rape, pony training, collars, buttplug-tails, toilet, silence rule). Temperament is easy to build up - give her boots and a spiked collar and it'll build up day by day, and once it's nice and high you can go nuts on her.
No.1444
>>1436Thank you. This means I can rape everything if I wanted. Rance Playthroughs confirmed. Thanks so much!
No.1445
No.1452
Just started playing, can anyone explain why all my meals become Canned Food on plates? Tutorial seems to work fine, but any food I make now seems to be ignored when I end the day.
It even happened to the green meal the estate agent made, so it's not my shitty cooking.
No.1453
>>1452You need to buy food for the meals. No matter your cooking skills, if you don't have food you'll only be able to eat slave food (that canned stuff on plates). If you have an assistant you can assign her to buy stuff, but of course it costs money.
No.1455
Any idea when i click active sex with my slave suddenly my assistant starts cleaning the house/making food? Is this a bug?
My loli slave is a bitch and i have to use domini dictum.
No.1456
>>1455Are you doing that when you're bottomed out on energy? It sounds like you're triggering the end-of-day routine, which happens automatically when you hit -5 energy.
Otherwise, throw up a save somewhere and I'll have a look at it.
No.1457
Game needs more avatars. They are quite diverse, but after the first 100 or so slaves they start to repeat more often than not.
No.1458
>>1417Anon, if you're still around, I'd like you to fix something that has been bothering me since forever. When you put your slave somewhere (into the assistant slot, the dungeon, or cryostasis) and then put her back into the slave slot, the rules are reset and I have to manually add them back again. That is very annoying. If you could fix it, I'd be thankful.
No.1459
>>1417If you really can mod this game, you should commit on github or something.
No.1461
>>1458Looked into this for you - the way the rules work in the game is they're cleared if you don't have a slave at any point, whether because you sold her, she died, or you put her into storage. I could adapt the way assistant rules work to make it 'remember' the rules and apply it to the next slave you receive, but that seems like that'd be just as bad if not worse - I can easily see myself accidentally breaking a slave because I forgot she'd have the same rules applied to her as the one I just sold did.
To make it so that each slave has their individual rules saved would require mucking with the array that slaves are stored in when they're put into the cryochamber, and I'm not sure I remember enough about how arrays work to make it happen. I'll poke at it when I'm more sober later, but it doesn't look good right now.
>>1459Seems a bit self-aggrandizing for what I'm doing. If people start talking about making some unofficial expansion with me as code monkey then sure github would be the way to go, but not while it's just tweaks for people.
No.1462
>>1461 again,
Still looking at this put-slave-on-ice code and this is some fucking elegant shit. Far as I can tell it doesn't even check to see if someone's already in there, it just shuts your current slave stats into temp, the iced slave into your current slave, and then the temp slave into the ice, and if any value is null it just passes the null along - I was expecting a bunch of duplicate code with minor variations to account for each possibility. Is this how Russians normally code or is this guy some sort of savant?
No.1463
>>1461 yet again,
Fuck, this doesn't use arrays at all, it's all stored variables. This could be very simple. I'll experiment, and if this works then I'll start seriously thinking about a github for some /hgg/mod or some shit.
No.1464
We have success. I got the game to remember where a specific slave was sleeping without it carrying over to any other slave. I'm going to have to duplicate the fuck out of this code - three lines multiplied by the number of rules multiplied by the number of ways to store a slave (five) - but it looks like we're a go.
No.1465
>>1463To give more information in case anyone actually cares about what I'm rambling about here - the game stores slaves not as a single array like I thought at first, but as a whole bunch of arrays and variables. The rules are just variables - it'd be possible to make them into an array to make this code elegant but fuck it, 'Keep It Simple, Stupid' is my house words.
No.1466
>>1465>>1464>>1463>>1462>>1461That's neat. Do you have any ideas of your own about things you would like to see improved or added to the game, other than the simple tweaks you did for yourself? I feel like this game has a lot of potential for expansion.
No.1467
>>1465What language is it coded in?
No.1468
>>1466Not really, I'm more into exploring other people's little worlds than trying to build one of my own. If you or anyone else has ideas of their own I'm all ears. Someone earlier suggested jobs for your slaves and after monkeying with the cryostorage code I'm positive it'd be possible to make it so you could 'store' a slave in a job and have a passive income from that, but I'm not sure whether people would be into such a simplistic take on that idea.
No.1469
>>1467Beats me, I'm monkeying with it using a program I dug up called 'qgen.exe' - it seems to be more popular in Russia than in the English-speaking part of the internet - the help file points me towards a Russian website. From what I understand it was originally coded in English and translated by some legend over at ULMF.
No.1470
>>1469I mean, it was originally coded in Russian.
No.1471
Here we go:
http://www.filedropper.com/jack_4With this version, if you stick a slave in a cage, a cryochamber, or an assistant job, it'll remember her rules, jobs, diet, and sleeping conditions when you pull her out again.
To install, back up and replace jack.qsp in the Jack-o-nine-tails folder. Saves made with the vanilla game won't be compatible with this and vice versa.
No.1472
>>1471Thank you.
About the jobs, how about some sort of brothel? There's not much to do towards the late game, so adding a growing business model could keep us entertained for a longer while when we've already sold the high quality slavers to the buyers. You could make it so that after getting to a certain level of brand popularity (B or A, for instance) you could rent or build a separate building with an initial small set of rooms which you can expand with more money where you can put slaves that satisfy certain requisites to prostitute themselves (high beauty, high devotion, sex skills, etc). And they earn money based on their abilities but also their mood and attributes (an apathetic slave would be boring in bed so she costs less than a lively slave, etc). Depending on their personality (whether they have certain traits or not) they would either remain happy at their job or lose stats/become depressed while in it. If a slave is really popular the slaver could start getting offers to buy her by the most influential clients for themselves, and choose whether to accept or not or hold a private auction, or something like that.
It would also be neat if the slavers could get more "personality" and "actions" so that they are more unique, so to speak, but this will require a lot more thinking on exactly what should be added and how.
No.1473
Hey anon. I'm actually owner of this repository:
https://github.com/thevm/jack/Found this thread only today.
So if you planning to make something, you can really use github, just stick with some gui like GitExtensions or even command line, don't use website interface for commits - it will screw everything up. You can also make pull requests, I can send you some things I planned to do - right now I'm suffering with really hard case of procrastination, it will take some time unfortunately. You can find my email on github, check my account.
No.1474
>>1472Part of this seems like it could be doable. What leaps immediately to mind is essentially a new place to 'sell' slaves to that unlocks at high rep and costs a lump sum to get started, and by 'selling' slaves to it you get a passive income. Though this would be a pretty low on customization - I could make it so you could choose between different things but at the end of the day there'd be 'slots' for pre-programmed girl types.
For instance, say a four-room brothel, and in one room you could choose between, say, a high-traffic group sex room or a room for a more intimate and expensive courtesan, and the former would require toughness and group sex skills and the latter fucking and touch and etiquette. And once you 'sell' a girl into that slot she'd work there permanently.
Having girls work in the brothel but still be under the slaver's control would be trickier but still doable, though I'm not so sure that it'd be a great idea - having to manage the mood of one slave is a challenge, having to juggle five brothel slaves would either be a nightmare of micromanagement or require a complete revamp of the slave interaction mechanics, at which point you might as well start building up from a different game entirely.
At the end of the day this is a game about training slaves, and while training them to fill slots in a brothel fits that theme, actually micromanaging that brothel doesn't. That's just my opinion, though.
No.1475
>>1473Right on, I'll send you an email.
No.1477
>>1473Wait, you are the original dev?
No.1478
Since I'm actually corroborating with other people instead of just taking ideas and futzing about I figured I better start namefagging. Oh, the horror. I feel dirty already.
The version of the game on Github is in Russian and even apart from that has minor differences to the code from the version that was translated into English, so what I'm tentatively and optimistically thinking of as the /hgg/mod is going to be separate to the existing Russian one, though I'm happy to exchange code with them. I'm working all the changes made so far into one version, and will look to make a toggle in the option menu for disabling mindbreaking - I think it'd be possible.
No.1479
>>1477No, I'm only a "fixer" who made 1.2 update that was approved by the original dev.
No.1480
Aight we getting vaguely fancy up in hyar. First actual release of hggmod, featuring toggleable mindbreaks, a magic-user start, slaves that remember the rules even after you stuff them in a cryochamber or dungeon, and the ability to gain reputation with factions even if their enemies like you too.
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod2 No.1486
No.1492
Alright, I'm working on adapting a 'full beauty treatment' option at the salon and a 'pierce fukken everything' button at the parlour from thevm's code on github, who made contact up here:
>>1473So full props to him. Also tried adapting some of his code for rule presets but apparently his version of the game is different enough to the English version that the game shat itself and refused to launch with the code in place. Ah well.
Since saves aren't compatible between versions, I don't reckon those two buttons are enough to call it a new 'version' of hggmod, so anyone got any ideas for additions or changes or options to add to the game? I'm still working on the slaver opening a brothel in the endgame, but that's a fairly ambitious project that's gonna take a fair bit of writing.
>>1486Glad you think so.
No.1500
>>1453Is food tied to why my slave wakes up every morning unhappy despite being cheerful the day before?
No.1501
>>1500No, food happiness is a constant unless you change her diet. Mood dropping when a new day starts is most likely because a lot of mood boosts only last until the end of the day.
If you ask her how she's feeling, she'll list everything that's currently affecting her mood.
No.1515
What can I do with a maxed out slave besides selling her? I grew attached and just want her to fuck things.
No.1517
>>1515You can make her your assistant, put her in cryostore, put her in prison, or eat her. Unfortunately it's a game about selling slaves so there's nothing you can do with them other than that, basically.
No.1809
okay so i have a small issue, i'm not sure how the latter system works.
like i can get a slave into D easily by making them into a maid or a secretary or a chef or something like that but then to get it over D i need to teach her sex skills and there are so fucking many.
how do you teach slaves sex skills to up their ranking? should i focus on one skill (like blowjob/vaginal/whatever) and get them all very high or just get every single sex skill into the pink?
how many sex skill does a slave need to go from D to B? please help.
No.1828
>>1492I am no master when it comes to coding, but i have some suggestion that could add something to the game, but it is to you to judge if it is doable and if it doesn't need a substantial amount of work and time:
- Add more special items with special effects useful for the PC (other than the ones that you get from "Special missions", those are the ones in the game as far as i know.)
- The Brothel idea seems a nice idea but as you said it is ambitious
- Add more "events" that gets you special slaves ("custom story" like the only event in the game, again as far as i can tell)
- Maybe some extreme interactions with some of the shop keepers like kidnapping and making them your own slave with the use of a special "event slave", to make them for example act as if nothing happened but gives you free access to their wares.
Lastly i would like to thank you for all the work you already put in modding the game, and keep in mind these are only breainstormed ideas(you get to decide if it doable or not),i hope this will get the others to get more ideas on the way.
No.1829
>>1828In order from simplest to most difficult:
Special items are very simple, the only problem is what they would do - if anyone has any ideas for magic items, please let me know.
Special slave events are certainly doable, I'd just have to ape the code for Isabella and switch the variables. The code's split between something like eight different sections and totals up to as many as a thousand lines though, so it'd be a chunk of work for each one.
Kidnapping for brainwashing seems to be fraught with potential plot holes and problems, but another way to implement the same idea is to specially train a slave to replace a shopkeeper. A lot of training, a bit of cosmetic surgery and a night-time ambush and bam, the trainer's got a puppet in place and nobody's the wiser. Much easier to code than trying to figure out how to represent a 'missing' shopkeeper for the duration of the kidnapping, too.
While I do love these ideas and don't in any way wish to discourage anyone from voicing them, what I need more is some actual fluff. Just a vague outline of a specific scenario and a few lines of in-game messages to go with it takes most of the burden of creativity off my shoulders and just leaves the code to write, which is very easy for me to lose myself in.
>>1809It takes 5 points in sexual categories to get to C rank, 12 for B. That's the categories, mind you, not the individual skills. This can be sped up a fair bit because some skills are tied together - IIRC, training blowjobs raises deepthroat, training dildo raises masturbation, training self-torture raises masochism, training scatology raises golden shower, and training gangbang raises triple penetration, double penetration, and to a lesser extent sex and anal sex all at once.
If I want to make a quick C-rank, I'd work on her non-sexual skills first and let her obedience build up, and then when it's just sexual skills left to reach the goal I'd max out blowjobs and dildo, which oral pleasure and demonstration up to two points each, and then train whatever else takes my fancy for that final point. This can take as little as three days with a sufficiently obedient slave.
For a B-rank, I'd work on her obedience even more, then run her through a gauntlet of gangbang. It usually takes more than a day to max it out because the obedience cap for learning that is so high, and once it's done you're going to want to take her to the clinic to make sure she didn't catch something or get pregnant, but that's three points in group sex and one in penetration. Then self-torture/blowjob/dildo adds another six points and there's just two points left to the goal of twelve.
But this is just personal preference - as long as you haven't let your personal finances get out of control, you can take pretty much any path and it doesn't matter awfully much. Worst case scenario, stick your latest project in cryostorage and train up a D-rank or two to pay the bills. Once you've got it down - and it sounds like you do - you can buy, train and resell two or even three D-rank slaves a week.
No.1830
>>1492all i want is for there to be a option to hire a nutritionist or make your assistant one (when you have a nutritionist your slaves caloric intake doesn't rise or fall effectively stabilising their weight too many of my product have turned fat on a maintenance diet)
No.1941
>>1829You know what, you could probably ask /tg/ for some
fetish magic items. Send them a link to the game while you're at it, they'll
probably love it.
No.1961
Can anyone upload to mega, mediafire or whatever a stable link for SimBrothelV2? The SVN is giving me 404.
http://sb2revival.lefora.com/topic/11017776/Re-How-to-Download-the-game?page=-1?page=-1#.VN4EQR2WE8l No.1966
>>1830Apart from potential layout issues I think that would be pretty simple to code. I'll work that in next time life stops kicking me in the 'nards for five minutes.
No.1967
>>1941I'll have to do that, assuming they don't already have a 'pervy magical item' thread going already. Last time I was there they were very much /d/-lite.
No.1968
>>1966Or I can do it now because the idea's in my head. And holy shit trying to edit an interface with text only when you have to save, open the game, and start a new game just to see what the changes look like is like trying to instruct Freddy Kreuger on how to fingerbang a hemophiliac using only morse code.
No.1969
Turns out the hardest part was me obsessively tweaking the checkboxes two or three pixels at a time to get them to line up right with the text. There's now a food portion level called 'Nutritionist' which will reset fat to 0 at the end of each day for 5 sparks a day, meaning a slave's weight will remain stable no matter how much or little they do in a day.
From previous changes I made, this version also has the 'pierce everything' button at the tattoo parlour and a 'full beauty treatment' at the salon to save you precious clicks, with thanks to the_vm for the code.
Installation instructions and full changelog in a .txt inside the zip.
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod3 No.1970
>>1969Just downloaded and gave it a test, everything is working perfectly. Thank you.
No.1979
>>1970Glad to hear it, and you're welcome.
No.1984
Save from your old mod work on this new mod ?
No.1987
>>1969Thanks, glad to see someone is adding things to this since it's probably the best slave/mindbreak game made. I have a few suggestions for mods if you're still looking. Some of them are pretty ambitious and requires a lot of work but I'd rather throw it out there and see what you do with it than not say it at all. Maybe the guy doing a browser version picks it up.
Special Items: An item for the assistant that makes them immune to fog-fiend insemination and an item that makes slaves like the fiend cum. You'd think someone that gets off on someone shitting in their mouth wouldn't be so picky.
Make it so I can go back to training D or C level girls for the guild after I've passed on to B level.
You've talked about a brothel but how about working other jobs as well? Just leave them in stasis at one of the bars ,for example, and get a flat rate of money back. Basically a stasis pod that has requirements and gives money instead of taking. Hard mode: Minus costs for food, have to get extra rooms for them to sleep in and give them chances for promotion to earn more money if they have the skills.
Brothel suggestions:
Street prostitution before you can buy and maintain a brothel with a chance of them getting attacked and have to defend themselves or them trying to run away from you.
Drugs and addiction. Get them addicted to drugs so they have to come back to you to get their fix. Detrimental to health but adds obedience.
Male slaves:
This might be a whole lot of work. Train them to do jobs other than sexual. As guards for the brothel or other property. Make them a requirement to kidnap and replace shopkeepers. Hard Mode: New skills like thieving and mugging. Then usurp a ruler when you have enough of them at a high enough level and your female slaves are high up at their workplaces
Also let them work at other businesses in the city like the female slaves.
Buying property:
Pay a large sum of money for a factory or the like and get monthly money in return. Hard Mode: Staff it with your own slaves and make the monthly money depend on the quality of your workers. Smithing and other craftsmanship skills for male slaves that works in the factory.
No.1989
>>1987>An item for the assistant that makes them immune to fog-fiend insemination Not positive, but I think if you take your assistant to the med center, and get her sterilized, she will be immune. Alternatively, if your slave has Immature, she will never be inseminated and can freely milk the fiend without any negative side effects.
No.1991
>>1987The fog-fiend immunity and liking the taste of fiend cum is the easiest of those, I'll work it into the next version. Any ideas about the form it should take? I'm thinking either an enchanted tattoo or some sort of piercing, but I'm open to alternatives.
Picking what level to train on commission should be pretty simple, won't guarantee it for next version in case there's some complication but I'll give it the ol' college try.
'Stasis pod' jobs is the simplest way to implement jobs, and doesn't even require any creativity - just make it available wherever you can sell slaves, with a couple of exceptions. The only tricky part is working out how to handle the income for them, but I'll probably just use a similar system to what happens if you capture a slave on the fog boundary when you already have one, and just have the sparks pile up until you go collect them from… the guild, I suppose. Maybe I'll add a new button to the guild menu.
Street prostitution is doable, and I'd be able to use pre-existing assets for the sex scenes, but unless it's entirely dry ('made twenty sparks fuckin' dudes, here they are') it'll take a lot of scene writing. Might go with the dry section for now and maybe replace it later if creativity strikes or if someone ponies up the scenes for it.
Drugs… there's already drugs in the game, though I've never used them. How is the current implementation falling short? Though I had an idea for a magic item that makes the PC's semen addictive, giving the slave a loyalty boost at the expense of a health reduction every time sex happens. Though not sure how the player should acquire this item.
Male slaves would be a lot of work and added assets for a thing that doesn't appeal to the boners of most of the players, and there's not many roles for them that women slaves can't fill - it's a fantasy sex game, let's not argue about relative male vs female strength. If there's a niche for them, I reckon the best way would be to be able to buy them from the Guild instead of training them up yourself, since most of the crowd here are most likely not into dudes. Though I mean no disrespect for those of you that like dudes, I'm a switch-hitter myself.
The factory idea is definitely a good one - a way to go maximum CAPITALISM, HO without me (or some other contributor) having to flesh out a brothel storyline, as well as give a late-game slaver more to do.
So in summary, fiend fetish item, commission rank option, a few basic 'stasis pod' jobs and maybe a bare-bones street prostitution system penciled in for version 4 of the mod, which I'll very tenuously say could be out in the next few days. Thanks for the ideas, do you want me to credit a specific name for these or should I put you down as Anonymous in the credits?
No.1992
Sound good . The only problem is we need to start new game for each new update T_T.
No.1995
>>1992Yeah, nothing I can do about that I'm afraid. That's why I'm trying to be sparing with versions and stuffing multiple new features into each one.
No.1996
>>1991
> I'm thinking either an enchanted tattoo or some sort of piercing, but I'm open to alternatives.I like those, I was thinking an equip-able item like a ring or necklace but yours might be better.
>Picking what level to train on commission should be pretty simpleThanks, sometimes you aren't ready to move on you need to make a quick buck for rent
>The only tricky part is working out how to handle the income for themCouldn't you handle it like the regular stasis-pod but with a negative number instead? Or put the collect button under accounting?
>a magic item that makes the PC's semen addictiveThat's a pretty good idea but the health reduction limits it's use a fair bit. Maybe as a quest item in return for a lot of spawn semen and/or a cum-slut themed slave. Maybe a long lasting potion could have that effect either give it to the slave or if the PC can drink it.
About the jobs. Could we have different tiers of them to account for promotions and different skill levels?
At the medical clinic for example:
Janitor: Light green in cooking and cleaning and at least purple in smarts, health, empathy etc.
Nurse: All of the above + blue nurse training and blue in the attributes that make sense
Doctor: Green in all the skills required so far plus alchemy, accounting and etiquette. Light green in the attributes that make sense.
Alternatively, use the ranking system. Just require a basic knowledge in the job they are applying for and use rank for the rest. D for janitor C for nurse and A or B for Doctor but that system feels pretty easy to game with fame and sex skills and I prefer a more detailed description like I wrote above. If you're interested I could come up with 2-3 tiers for each job, the requirements for them, wages and then pastebin it if you want to get straight to the coding.
I think you'd need to be able to employ several slaves per work-place to get any decent money going. At least if you're going to restrict wages to a level that makes sense from the employers POV.
It would be good to have requirements on extra rooms in your house to employ slaves too since they would still be living with you instead of being sold. The food can be simulated by deducting it from wages and just pay them less. I would like it for balance reasons since otherwise you might be able to train 10 D level slaves and have all of your upkeep costs covered and basically never have to sell another slave unless you want to buy something in particular. I'm not sure If you have requirements on rooms but making an extra room cost 500 or 1000 per room would be an effective way of making sure you don't get OP too early. If it's a lot of work to add extra bedrooms to the real-estate office I think I've found a quick but dirty solution. Just pay 500 or 1000 to whoever you're employing them with and then get the money back if you're taking the slave back.
>Male slaves would be a lot of workYeah it was more about me also wanting to be a charismatic slum kingpin with an army of thugs and street urchins.
>do you want me to credit a specific nameNah, just keep putting it down as anon from /hgg/
I'm sorry if I'm bombarding you BTW. I've been thinking about stuff to add to the game since 1.21 and now they're all spilling out.
No.1997
>>1996>Couldn't you handle it like the regular stasis-pod but with a negative number instead? Certainly, but then there's no feedback except for an increased amount of dosh that the money's come in, which feels lazy to me.
>Or put the collect button under accounting?That hadn't occurred to me, and would work much better. I'll probably go with that.
>That's a pretty good idea but the health reduction limits it's use a fair bit.True, and come to think of it it would make training sexual skills a pain. Maybe have it slowly erode intelligence/nature/temperament instead, making it a useful tool for quick-and-dirty breaking in of slaves but not useful for making higher-tier slaves. Perhaps even add a variation on mindbroken where they're still sellable as sex slaves but not for any other role. I'll see what the code can be convinced to do.
>If you're interested I could come up with 2-3 tiers for each job, the requirements for them, wages and then pastebin it if you want to get straight to the coding.I'd appreciate this, I was just going to use the existing ranking system but this would make things more interesting. No need to write up every job at once, that'd be a pretty big task. Even just doing the write-up for the jobs of one location would do for starters.
>If it's a lot of work to add extra bedrooms to the real-estate office I think I've found a quick but dirty solution. Just pay 500 or 1000 to whoever you're employing them with and then get the money back if you're taking the slave back.I think this would work best, and fluff it as putting a deposit on the accommodations the slave will be living out of. It'd be weird to have to buy new rooms for your apartment but not be able to interact with the slaves that are allegedly living with you.
>Yeah it was more about me also wanting to be a charismatic slum kingpin with an army of thugs and street urchins.I can understand the appeal, and I think there's potential in that idea, I just don't think the existing slave-training framework really fits for building up said army, a better way would be for the PC to be able to build that up through one or all of stat checks, sparks being spent, and extremely loyal slaves to act as lieutenants.
>I'm sorry if I'm bombarding you BTW. I've been thinking about stuff to add to the game since 1.21 and now they're all spilling out.No need to apologize at all, I appreciate the input and the ideas.
No.1998
SOCIOPATH MODE ENGAGED
Speaking of fetish/utility add ons, I'd really be about a "Stable" extension to the house.
Basically a dungeon code copy without tortures and hardship bonuses and maluses (well less maluses, at least, so they not die of deprivation and despair).
Where you could give the double/triple amount of food like the other active slaves (unlike the dungeon - to make them fat, ye see…) and get the eggs/milk/cream like the slave in the dungeon already gives.
With a Pet requirement to put a slave in ?
And to be able to use broken slaves as cattle ?
The final fetish combo could have some tie-in with the whole xenophilia stuff, but i'm out of ideas there.
On another point, there's some "trait xp" you can gather to get from the 0th to 1st level of some traits (basically everything about phobias and perversions) which are both hidden (you can only see the -1st and 2nd level, when a slave have them). In my own game I copied/pasted the bloc so you can get to the last level with enough work (so I can, among a lot of things, turn in the long run every slave into a Pervert, except if she has the -1 trait). Maybe this little thing may have some advocates here.
No.2002
Medical center can give you option that make your slave/assistant milking/egg laying . If you want good meal , store some vegetable then done (ah,um, im not a fan of cannibalistic so …)
No.2003
>>1997
>Even just doing the write-up for the jobs of one location would do for starters.I'm almost done with the "Virgins Hip" Pub. I've got 5 jobs penned for it.
Cleaner
Bar maid
Bar whore
Singer/entertainer
Manager
I am currently writing some hiring dialogue for them. Basically detailing in an immersive way the qualifications for the jobs.
I also got an idea for how to implement property. Replace manager with Pub owner, make the deposit 10,000 and require the slave to have won their freedom at the arena and then returned to the player out of devotion.
How does that sound?
No.2011
>>1997Can you add a mechanic that let's you know how many times you need to repeat an action to raise it to the next Rank? I'm talking the Slaver's skills. Like how many times he needs to teach a slave cleaning before his cleaning rank goes up.
Also will you be able to add a mechanic where a Slaver will be able to raise his skills from Red to anything higher? Because as I understand it, Red means it can't be raised at all, yet.
If you can't, then that's fine. Just thought I'd give something for you to think on.
Also if you need help with written events lemme give a go at it. I don't have any experience in sexual matters, so that might limit my usefulness I would imagine. Still, if you need some flavor text for some random item or lore or world-building, I'll give it a try.
Tripfagging so you know it's me if you do want me to give it a go.
No.2012
>How does that sound?
I think a slave with high devotion/taming or something like that better than "Arena champion".
How about a system call "Concubines" , you can make 1-3 your max devotion/taming to your concubine , they can do job to make money/give special bonus to your slave traning/improve slaver mod/ect…ect… but you need to make them happy(you know what i mean :D) or them will run away/suicide.
No.2015
>>2011You can build up a red skill by buying the "job outfit" for this skill.
No.2016
This game have so much potential, but working with its engine is like trying to shave your balls with kitchen knife. Boney, man, you will suffer a lot. Good luck.
No.2017
>>2015Wait really? If that's true, thank you very much anon.
No.2019
>>2016Yeah , alot of database is in RUS , i was try some modding and full trans code to ENG but google trans …. dam it !
No.2020
>>2003I think there should be two types of jobs for slaves - one where they're working for someone else (such as the Virgin's Hip) that makes a small amount of passive income and requires a smaller deposit (about 500 or so) to start up, and a larger one where the player opens and runs their own business staffed by slaves they've trained. The former is a lot less work to implement than the latter, and is a mid-game rather than a late-game prospect for the player.
>>2011I'm gonna try to make sense of how the slaver skills work and get back to you. But the other dude is right, you can use clothes to increase red stats.
>>2012Yeah, requiring maxed-out obedience/awareness/taming/habit would be about as difficult without having to require jumping through the hoops of the arena.
>>2016No fucking kidding, it's like reading the fucking Necronomicon. At first it seems like nonsense gibberish but the more I read the more I reread the code the more sense it makes and the more I worry I've gone insane.
>>2019The language thing isn't so bad as long as you keep track of the untranslated variables and copy-paste the cyrillic as needed.
No.2021
>>2011The slaver skill code uses seven variables unique to that code: i, n, hrm, hrd1, hrd2, hrd3, and hrd4. And there's three while loops, one after the other, all using the same variable. It's like he's booby-trapped his code to drive people insane.
Okay, if I'm reading this correctly (and I think, but can't guarantee, that I am) the number of times you have to use a skill to raise it increases based on the number and level of skills you already have, instead of just requiring a set number of uses. Also, your skill progress only updates at the end of the day. So it'd be technically possible but a huge pain in the ass to rig up a running countdown of how close you are to increasing a skill. I'll put it in the 'maybe someday' pile, but no promises. Sorry, man.
No.2022
>>2012>>2020I meant to put it down as both. The point of the arena was three-fold. FIrstly, that the slave isn't technocally a slave anymore because it sounded weird to me that a slave could hold an owners position. Secondly, it's another hoop for the player to jump through to further prevent them from getting it too early. Thirdly, if they come back out of devotion it's a sign that you can fully trust them.
I'm writing it as they take over the entire business except the front that the player actually sees. It's basically no different than pay a larger sum of cash and get more in return.
Or I could just write it back as some sort of managers position with less pay. I'll have a pastebin up soon for feedback.
No.2023
>>2022I see where you're coming from and I partially agree, I just don't think the arena is the best way to go about it.
For 1: As you suggested, a managerial position would side-step the issue entirely.
For 2: Maxing out obedience/awareness/taming/habit is more difficult but has more ways of doing it than making a slave arena champion, making it a more suitable hoop IMO. The arena's once-every-ten-days timetable makes it more busywork than difficulty, especially since a skilled player can have a slave able to become champion and obedient enough to come back within about ten days but they still have to twiddle their thumbs for forty more.
For 3: That's true. A way to solve that would require auspex to be one to make a slave the manager, so a slaver would be putting someone he knows for a fact is entirely obedient in the position of power. Plus it'd be less ambiguous - IIRC the dialogue for a slave returning to you after being named arena champion suggests that she may have just not known what else to do.
And apart from that it just seems more fitting to me that the slaver outright owns everyone in his employ.
No.2024
No.2025
>>2023Pastebin is up.
http://pastebin.com/13Zcm44vI'll be finishing the in-character job descriptions later today. If you are unsure why a job has those requirements the job descriptions will explain them.
Feedback is very appreciated.
No.2026
>>2021Oh,i though skill train depend on teacher(slaver/assistant/tudor/school)'s skill , slave's mod , slave's intelligent , slave's obident and slave's sexual desire if sex trainning ?
No.2027
>>2026Forget that slaver's mood effect too.
>>2025Cool , downloading.
No.2028
>>2025Cheers, gonna check that out in a moment - partway through coding the fiend tattoo now and don't want to lose my place.
>>2026All of that goes into the slave's skill advances, but not the slaver's. The only thing that effects how fast the slaver learns is how much he already knows.
No.2029
>>2025I love the in-character descriptions, it very much fits the feeling of the bar itself. The stat requirements are going to be a huge help too, hammering all of that out would have been about three quarters of the work for me. I greatly appreciate this.
No.2041
The part, about pexing more traits and more those traits so you can mold your slaves more with time, I was refering to in
>>1998in $newloc, line 544 (just after "if slave["fear"] > 0…"
if slave["exhibitionism_xp"] > 25 and slave["exhibitionism"] = 1: slave["exhibitionism"] = 2
if slave["masohism_xp"] > 25 and slave["masohism"] = 1: slave["masohism"] = 2
if slave["preversion_xp"] > 25 and slave["preversion"] = 1: slave["preversion"] = 2
if slave["abuse_xp"] > 25 and slave["abuse_attitude"] = 1: slave["abuse_attitude"] = 2
if slave["darkness_xp"] > 25 and slave["darkness_attitude"] = 1: slave["darkness_attitude"] = 2
if slave["blood_xp"] > 25 and slave["blood_attitude"] = 1: slave["blood_attitude"] = 2
if slave["fire_xp"] > 25 and slave["fire_attitude"] = 1: slave["fire_attitude"] = 2
if slave["water_xp"] > 25 and slave["water_attitude"] = 1: slave["water_attitude"] = 2
if slave["vermin_xp"] > 25 and slave["vermin_attitude"] = 1: slave["vermin_attitude"] = 2
if slave["deprivation_xp"] > 25 and slave["deprivation_attitude"] = 1: slave["deprivation_attitude"] = 2
if slave["compassion_xp"] > 25 and slave["compassion"] = 1: slave["compassion"] = 2
If anyone here wants to add it to its own game.
After some tries the last days, I don't think I've got enough coding knowledge to do the other part myself (the Stables).
No.2042
>>2041The problem with that is that it eventually turns any slave you work on long enough into an exhibitionist masochistic pervert that loves degradation and deprivation, unless you go out of your way to avoid the things that increase that XP, which removes some of the variety from the game. A more involved system to put in an effort to modify traits might be a better way to go about it, something brainwash-y and perverse.
>>1998I somehow missed this post earlier in the thread, sorry man. It'd take some modifying of the food code to make it so that excess eggs or milk get sold off instead of jamming up the fridge, but that should be doable. The simplest way to implement it is to have something like the cryotube except there's a skill and modification requirement to put a girl in there: green pet skill, loose vagina and egg modification for one slot, green pet skill, large breasts and milk modification for the other.
I'll take a look at it now and see how viable it is, if it's as straightforward as I think then a barn add-on will be in the next version of hggmod. If so, you want to be credited as Alploochra?
No.2044
>>2042Yep, barn is a go. Theoretical maximum income (from fit, fat milfs with enormous tits tended to by a lesbian farmhand) is going to be about 30 sparks a day, with food costs maxing out at 12 sparks a day.
Gonna limit it to one egg slave and one milk slave in the barn to prevent the overwhelming urge to grind infinite cows.
No.2046
>>2044Hey man, thanks for all your work. I really do want to help out with the writing though. Is there any story related writing you need help with?
No.2047
>>2042>>2044About traits_xp:
I tried to tune the numbers so that you *can* teach a slave anything but it's *beyond* a normal use of the fetishes. It may need more tuning, but an utilitarian use of punishments and so on isn't enough to go to level 2, you really need to want it to make it happen with 25xp; even for deprivation (you can't just let her in prison this long). The only grey zone is the Perversion one, because it can happen passively with the scat rule (at the cost of hygien) and the fiendish food rule. I'm all about the last part, personally… She just happened to fuel the last four decades or so with the stuff (the main advantage of the Pervert trait is to give positive mood about fiend cum).
BUT, I'm totally about "something brainwash-y and perverse" too. Oh yeah.
About the barn:
No need to be sorry.
From what I understand of the code (not all of it) perhaps it would be quicker to copy/paste the dungeon code, except some parts of the next_day thing that totally f*ck up the slave (deprivation and so on - to keep her in some use, despair for example is killing milk production too). It even would synergies with the broken rule, which make Custom go to 5, and Custom/Habit also boosts milk production.
Should broken be a requirement, in your mind ?
On the point of one egg slave / one milk slave, is there some negative aspect to her being the same slave (I don't think so but maybe I'm wrong) ?
I'm not against having more sexy pets at home, mind you.
About being a total monster, could there be a slot that has no other use than let a slave go fat (with lesser Pet requirements) ? To sell her to, ahem, the butcher ? The whole code for optimizing meat refunds is already there, I'm practic'ly innocent, your honor…
No problem with the credit (it's my supervillain nickname) as long as you're clearly credited as the man who makes the magic happen.
No.2048
>>2046As a matter of fact, yeah. If you're into the 'human livestock' thing or can put yourself in that mindset, I need scenes of a slave that has been made the supervisor of a barn either checking up on, taking care of, or molesting the hell out of the other two slaves in the barn: one who's constantly lactating, and one who lays eggs. No limit on length, and I'll take as many as you can write - once it's coded it'll pick one of the snippets at random to display every time you check up on the farmhand.
No.2049
>>2047>About traits_xp:Yeah, I see what you mean. I'll definitely think about how to implement the ability to give a slave those traits, but I don't want it to be accidental, and it's a great opportunity to put more brainwash-y and perverse stuff into the game.
>perhaps it would be quicker to copy/paste the dungeon codeI did think about that, but I ended up going with the cryo code instead. I really don't want to increase micromanagement if I can help it, hence the 'farmhand' role - it's a justification for a slaver to be able to set it up and forget about it indefinitely if he so pleases. But I've set it up so the slaves in there are still able to be changed if need be.
>Should broken be a requirement, in your mind ?Hmm. I've been thinking it should require Pets 5, but now I think I'll make it so it'll require Pets 5 *or* Broken. Pick your preference, mindbroken cattle or carefully trained cowgirls.
>is there some negative aspect to her being the same slaveNah, it'd just require a whole lot more coding for having less slaves overall.
>About being a total monster, could there be a slot that has no other use than let a slave go fatVery evil. Very doable. I'll put that in.
No.2050
>>2048I'd have to read up on Psychological Papers and Journals on that type of mentality to do it true justice. But I can do quick "this is how the act in the beginning and this is how they act at the end."
Just give me each of the stages of how they're supposed to act and I'll work around that. Like for example Stage 1 is complete resistance and the Last Stage is complete acceptance. Give me each parameter and I'll work from there.
No.2051
>>2050When they're put in the pens they're already broken in - it requires either Pets 5 or being mindbroken. Though now that you mention it, maybe there should be a specialized training in the Barn to quickly train someone into a suitable animal girl. I'll work on that once the rest of the barn code is done and put a call out for writers for it then.
But what I need for now is just, y'know, slice-of-life of the bottom bitch of the barn. Scenes of her alternately taking care of or molesting the poor cowgirl and egglaying girl.
No.2052
>>2048So you want a mind-break of 1)Lactating Slaves and a mind-break of 2)egg laying girls. Also you want a slave that's been put into a 3)position of power.
That's do-able. For #3 you'd have to do a stat check for Empathy(for how they'll treat the slave-in-training), Pets(So they know what the fuck they're doing), and Secretary(so they can be bureaucratic and efficient about it). Depending on those I can write a number of different scenarios where the Slave in charge reacts in different ways. If that's too much work with coding on your part I can scale down.
>>2051Oh, gotcha. I'll try to figure this out then. If you want her to molest the girls, that's a straight up empathy check. If her empathy is too high, I'll write it so she's too reluctant to treat the girls roughly. If her empathy is too low, she's take great pleasure in treating them like shit.
No.2053
>>2052>>2051So no mindbreak, they're already broken. My bad.
No.2054
>>2052>mind-breakSounds exactly right. And varying scenarios based on the 3rd slave's stats is easy enough to code. And if this idea's in your head, then by all means write it and I'll put it in the game. Inspiration is a fickle mistress and I know better than to spurn anything she offers.
>empathy check>If you want her to molest the girls, that's a straight up empathy check.Yeah, I can gate wildly differing portrayals of that power dynamic behind various stat checks on the farmhand, so pretty much anything goes from gentle tending to power-tripping molestation.
No.2055
>>2053Okay, I'm explaining this terribly because I'm still thinking in code. Let me give it another go.
The scenario I was originally thinking of is when the prospective cattle-girl was already ready to be treated like cattle, and I wanted various scenes of what the slaver would walk in on when he was checking up on the cattle-girl and the farmhand in charge of her.
But since you've started talking about mindbreak, I've had another idea - a new way to prepare girls for cattle-girl-dom instead of mindbreak or pet training, where they're prepped for the exact role. Something like 'cow training' or 'egglayer training' that takes place in the barn. So if you want to write the mindbreak thing I can absolutely use it.
No.2056
Going by the name Yiku now just to prevent confusion. I'm keeping the trip though.
>>2054>>2055Alright sweet, I'll probably cage off Rank 1+2(Red and Pink) of Empathy as them being sadistic and very much abusive in their position of power. I'll do Rank 3+4(Purple and Blue) as they merely view it as their job to do it. I'll do Rank 5+6(Cyan and Green) as them being tender, almost motherly towards the slave.
So a high empathy Slave-mother(for lack of a better word right now) can boost the slaves happiness towards being cattle-ified. While a low-empathy Slave-mother will make mind-breaking and depression a more likely outcome.
So if the player wants to be a cruel mind-breaker, low-empathy is the way to go. But if they want a happy cattle-girl, high-empathy is the way to go.
As for the slave-mother with the stat check for Pets and Secretary, have it be a hard-requirement. Like at least Rank 3 for both to be able to do the job well.
No.2057
>>2056>>2055That sound good to you?
No.2058
>>2056>>2057Sounds brilliant.
No.2059
>>2058I don't know how long it will take me to write it. For the next week or two i'll probably do basic outlines just so I have a clear idea of what I'm writing and where I'm going with it. Plus college is going to take some time off my hands in that regard. But once I have the general idea of where I need to go with the narrative, it shouldn't take me more than a week to write it.
For now, I need to do some research on this stuff. I just hope googling abusive tropes doesn't land me in some goverment watch-list, kek.
No.2060
>>2059Excellent, I look forward to it.
No.2061
>>2060As a bit of flavor text, I can write the Barn as a monopoly. It can also serve as a in-game justification of why the player is only paid 30 sparks a day and why the player themselves has to pay for the food.
Wait no, that's not flavor text then. That's just the narrative reason for why the player only get 30 sparks. (The actual reason of course is you don't want the player to goldmine through the Barn, kek)
Yay or nay?
No.2062
>>2061Way I figure it, the food industry is locked up by a Guild of similar power to the one the slaver is a member of - let's call it the Grocer's Guild. The slaver we play can get away with a small barn for a few of his own slaves, but if he tried to expand further it'd be infringing on the Grocer's Guild monopoly. And since the Grocer's have the monopoly, they dictate that everyone buys only from them - so they're the only ones you can sell to without getting on their bad side. Hence the low price.
That's how trade guilds worked way back when. Nasty business, but insanely profitable.
No.2063
So, right now if I'm understanding well, we're about a Barn that has a built-in dedicated training mechanism, and neither Broken state nor Pet/Xenophilia skills are doing something in it ?
We must find another use for those high-octan fetish fuels…
An extension to the Animal Farm shop or mindset ? It always bothered me that the creepy beatman explained to me he wanted beaten, obedient, mute bestiality slaves and bitched about them being not ranky enough or CLASSY enough…
A bestiality whore thingy perhaps ? (so xenophilia has a use)
And/or a Bitch job ? In-house, in-city ?(especially for broken slaves)
Gameplay-wise, I'm bothered with there being nothing to do with Broken slaves at all - it being some tempting thing to do, too, even if not an economically sound one. After all, it's a game about kinks primarily. I think there should be more things to do with mind broken and heavily tortured slaves too.
Thinking of it, what do you think about some sort of House Pet slot in the Barn / in the House, that would be like some sort of very lightweight assistant job needing high custom/habit and taming/instinct, Pet skills, no Pride left, and some mood and little passive training advantages ? Like randomly and giving some aura boosts (even fear or despair)to slaves in training, and some random events - like taking care of heat (Arousal burst) and having catfights (if someone has an idea here, speak up !)
Addendum: Active sex has no link to some of the sex skills (Xenophilia, again), perhaps there's something to do with making this part of active sex into the Barn/Stables. Cf beast whore, cf bitch job.
No.2065
I was just looking again at some of the left-over codes from things that didn't make it into the game.
Especially at the other mods you could have bought at the clinic (things like those freakish nipplemouthes !) but thinking here mainly about the "harpy hardware" egg-laying stuff.
And I was just thinking again about all the bestiality(and cannibalism) stuff that is justified in-universe by the fact that there is nearly no animals at all in Eternal Rome.
So, heavy futuretech medical modifications and farm/house animals shortage.
And we have a barn/stable with (perhaps mindbroken) open-minded conditioned wide-skilled heavy duty female slaves.
You can connect the dots yourself here.
(NB, speaking of those totally ghost med mods that never went in the game… Too much work on our (your) side ?)
No.2067
>>2063>So, right now if I'm understanding well, we're about a Barn that has a built-in dedicated training mechanism, and neither Broken state nor Pet/Xenophilia skills are doing something in it ? Nah, there'll be three ways to get a slave to act as an animal in the barn: pet training, being mindbroken, or the dedicated training mechanism.
>A bestiality whore thingy perhaps Seems more suited to later expansions, as an exhibit in a brothel or something.
>I'm bothered with there being nothing to do with Broken slaves at allThat's true. I'll have to look at some sort of new buyer dedicated to broken slaves later on.
>some sort of House Pet slotAnother thing good for a later expansion, I think. Some sort of 'house staff' thing, where once you have a nice luxurious apartment you can start staffing it.
>Active sexI'm pretty sure the code for active sex was written by Cthulhu. I've tried figuring it out a couple times and it makes the rest of the code look transparent and well-documented.
No.2068
>>2065>broodsow slavesDefinitely a possibility, I'll jot it down.
>totally ghost med mods that never went in the game… Too much work on our (your) side ?Far as I can tell all that remains of them is a passing reference in the code, so to put them in I'd have to start from scratch. It'd be a pretty huge job, considering how often slave genitals are prominent in a scene.
No.2069
>>2062I can write that in. Like when you open the Barn, a representative comes to warn the Player that if they exceed the maximum slaves they can have in the Barn, their license will be revoked(game over). And then in the diary thing, I can write that the Slaver thinks it's the Guild making sure that he doesn't become competition. It'll narratively reinforce itself.
>>2067>the code for active sex was written by CthulhuKek.
Anyway. The research is going okay. For now I'm researching animal abuse(treating the slaves like Cattle) and abuse regarding power-play(so I can write a better dynamic with all involved.) Once I have a basic understanding of that, I'll move onto whatever else might be helpful with the writing research, or I'll just start writing. Whichever.
No.2070
>>2069Glad it's going okay. I'm damn near run out of steam for today. Do you know that every time text appears on the screen, the game runs through about ten thousand lines of code? Maybe thirty of those lines have anything to do with the text, but damned if I can find them all to replicate them. I can work around it but it's going to make the existing code even more of a tangled mess as I jam the new code into it. It's maddening.
No.2071
>>2067>>Active sex>I'm pretty sure the code for active sex was written by Cthulhu. I've tried figuring it out a couple times and it makes the rest of the code look transparent and well-documented.You're not crazy enough then. Yet.
No.2072
>>2067Okay !
But the Pet training path seems like, longer and harder. Even more for the kind slavers that will only use the "real" Pet skills (no Xeno).
But we can also say, "wait till a bestiality extension to balance things out" where your cattle could do the other things during the day then (with different possibilities and rewards for Catgirl-trained, Xeno-trained, Barn-trained and if Broken or not)
For example, building on your "as an exhibit" thing, a Xeno-trained obedient slave would be used to high-class exhibits, while a broken bestiality whore would do some sort of lower-end farm animal de-stressing or house dog servicing
>>2068>>broodsow slaves>Definitely a possibility, I'll jot it down.So cool.
>>totally ghost med mods that never went in the game… Too much work on our (your) side ?>Far as I can tell all that remains of them is a passing reference in the code, so to put them in I'd have to start from scratch. It'd be a pretty huge job, considering how often slave genitals are prominent in a scene.Probably why they were left ghosty. Yeah there's only one passing mention of them, and I asked myself if this was because of a lack of pictures. There's also the fact that I have no idea what they could have done mechanics-wise (specific orders ?)
I'm slowly wondering if I may have lost some mental sanity points. Too.
No.2081
Boney, don't forget to include your changes on github as well.
No.2082
>>2070Yeah, comments around the web (specifically the russian web) often points to the fact that QSP is a fluster cuck of strange behaviors and obscure cryptic thinguies, that is far harder to organize and use than other systems, but it *can* make wonders if you can ride the craziness wave.
Technic'ly I've no background in programming, but I still could find all the data I wanted to fully understand the numbers in the game.
For a mere four SAN points.
Before writing it down on a piece of paper with little drawings, lots of arrows, meaningless sentences of three letters acronyms and sticked-together synonyms and scarry words like "fiend" and "deprivation" and "preversion_xp (sic)".
(This last stage being all true !)
No.2085
Okay, worked a little more on some game dev during a sleepless night, it's a mix'n'mash stuff, that has foundations in things said before in the thread for a part of it.
It's a pick-like-you-want list without any pretention other than to brainstorm stuff.
Ideas have been separated in "modules", trying to make them separated. I've included "secondary modules" that are basically advanced variants of a module but can probably done at another time or not at all.
I also took the liberty to highlight possible tie-ins/balancing stuff/synergies with other things we might had or that are in the works. They're all open to discussion, of course. There are holes - points we've not enough discussed yet, and in which I have no ideas. Take more the thing as a speculative roadmap.
-PATRICIAN MODULE-
Give some things to do once a Patrician !
- Something about ranking all the Houses and doing all the high level contracts. For the collectors in us.
- OR TO BECOME FIRST PATRICIAN. With the power of each house behind you.
- Patrician status NEEDS the max Living possible ? So it's still a battle to fund all your empire and all the money maker things you have
- Something achievement-like that demands that you train one of all the heavily specialized slaves that can be ?
LINK -> Nearly eveything on this post)
- Some things that have being a Patrician as a requirement ?
- Some enticement to train heavily disobedient slaves, like, endgame hardcore mode. Perhaps something gained from heavy obedience changes in a given slave ? Some gift that can't be bought otherwise ? Slavers Guild Honor Medals or something ? LINK -> HOUSE STAFF MODULE for increased protection against those dangers.
- Some 5th act extension stuff ! Kill the Lord of Destruction !
(ABOUT HIGH END MONEY GENERATOR)
-BROTHEL MODULE- "Kinky Fiend"
Keeping in mind that some street prostitution is already at work (far above in the thread).
We should get a second look at the whole Brothel idea (the problems were 1-fluff and 2-feedback). After all, the game is mainly about sex slaves, so…
I think that the way the Barn is developping is a solid ground to make something similar with a Brothel: a separate entity, with fixed slots, prerequisites for the slots, and a semi-random income. Some fluff thrown around. Three kind of slots to begin with, with a max number, and money to invest to buy them all (buying things to improve how big, and classy, the Brothel is).
Perhaps the requirements should include being a Patrician ?
1 Madam slot, that is the player's right hand and manage the thing. High stats needed, Temperament, *Pride/Ego* (to make things interesting), Devotion/Moral, Awareness/Rational, sex skills, max secretary, max nurse, why not some Escort and Gladiatrix. Need specific attire (some posh clothes and some items) And a bonus like accounting, and so on.
0-2 High Courtesans slots, give more money than simple prostitutes, higher stats needed (mainly classy stuff as they are entertaining high rollers - A+ Maid, Escort, Dancing, Singing, Music) and posh clothes. At least 3 Devotion and a teal Beauty.
2-4 Whores - the salt of the earth of the brothel nation. They're mainly Courtesans with a higher Devotion needed (3) because they work outside and all, and a blue Beauty, for attraction.
LINK -> Street Prostitution doesn't disappear with the Brothel, it's still a lower-end lower-cost lower-skills variant. Probably a good thing to use broken whores
LINK -> Breaking Variants module
-SEXWORKING SECONDARY MODULE-
The idea there is that the semi-random amount gained by prostitutes should go up with the sum of their sex skills.
LINK -> street prostitution in works
-EXHIBITS SECONDARY MODULE-
The possibility to create some events in the Brothel that need additional upgrades and skills from the brothel crew. Bestiality exhibit, large gang bang exhibit, Orgy exhibit (that basically needs everybody and group sex for everyone) and so on. Gets a -whore suffix.
-STREET PROSTITUTION MODULE- (LOW MONEY GENERATOR)
Boney M is thinking of it.
-GLORYHOLE MODULE-
An upgrade that can be bought for the House but isn't specifically IN the House.
A 3 slots (probably) building that let slaves assigned to it to work the Gloryhole Duty job.
LINK -> Gloryhole Duty Module.
No.2086
-BARN MODULE-
Already in the tubes, fun incoming. The possibility to use a third slot to fatten up meat cattle has been deemed "very evil, very doable". There's some kind of special place in hell for people like us.
- Perhaps call the leading slaves in the Barn the "Farm Hand" ?
- Perhaps let a Farm hand assisted submissive Cow Girl being trained with the dedicated barn-training slowly, really slowly, get increases in bust size ?
Also, let it slowly lessen Intelligence and Nature.
-STABLES SECONDARY MODULES-
Has been spoken of. Little extension to the Bran that could let you use Breeder Slaves to make sparks.
LINK -> Breeder Secondary Module
-KENNEL SECONDARY MODULE-
Use your bestiality slaves to do really nasty stuff for shiny sparks. Allows to use slaves as Bitches, helping with animal stress and arousal problems around Rome. A good use/specialization for broken deshumanized slaves.
LINK -> Broken Slaves Variants & Broken Slaves Uses
-HAREM MODULE-
A high end house upgrade (I'm thinking of it as a really big boudoir upgrade), *very* costly, that let you have a small number of slaves without freezing them nor deprivate them.
Slaves in your harem still have the daily modificators of items and so on, and are considered in the boudoir no matter what, so without Fear or Devotion, they will ramp up Spoil. They do cost food.
-BUNKBEDS SECONDARY MODULE-
A sort of harem of lower sleeping standarts and lower cost, bedroll near the fire-like ? (same modificators)
-HOUSE STAFF MODULE-
Not really worked out thus far. (Boney M may have some ideas already)
Balance changes : far more "dangers" in your House when population goes up: more fleeing chances and attack chances
-HOUSE PET SECONDARY MODULE-
One of the staff, House Pet slot in the Barn in the House, that would be like some sort of very lightweight assistant job needing high custom/habit and taming/instinct, Pet skills, no Pride left, a full set of animal paraphilia items, too; and some mood and little passive training advantages ? Like randomly and giving some aura boosts (even fear or despair)to slaves in training, and some random events - like taking care of heat (Arousal burst) and having catfights (if someone has an idea here, speak up !)
LINK -> Broken Slave Variants -> Inner Beasts
-HOUND SLAVE SECONDARY MODULE-
A one-slot staff member. Something between the House Pet and the Harem Guard. Protection against bad events and disobedience in-house. Heavy requirements (same as House Pet, plus Gladiatrix skill but animal-paraphilia items).
LINK -> Broken Slave Variants -> Inner Beasts
-HAREM GUARD SECONDARY MODULE-
LINK -> Harem Module
A one-slot job, better with a Gladiatrix, skill and items. Give bonuses against rebellion and flight.
-PROCURER SECONDARY MODULE-
A one-slot job giving bonuses against bad events in the Brothel and Street Prostitution.
Gladiatrix skills and items better.
LINK -> Brothel Module, Street Prostitution Module.
-FLUFFER AND FINISHER SECONDARY MODULE-
One (or two ?) of the house staff, whose job is to daily give arousal bonuses to slaves (the whole housestaff) but also to make happy things happen to the slaves that have too much Arousal, so they aren't taking mood and stamina hits. Heavy sex skills requirements, good Rational and Custom. Job may be really hard to untrained and low stat slaves. Gives passive bonuses in sexual skills rates to everyone fluffed (or finished).
LINK -> Girl Love Module, Harem Module, ….
No.2087
-GIRL LOVE MODULE-
Some specialized uses for Lesbian Slaves !
- Farm Hand - better rates at everything when tutoring Cattle !
LINK -> BARN MODULE
- Fluffer & Finisher - better job and less mood, arousal and endurance loss with each sexual acts
LINK-> Fluffer and Finisher Secondary Module
(the idea is to make it really, really interesting, there)
(ABOUT TRAITS)
-CORRUPTION MODULE-
Already spoken of when referencing the the traits xp.
Boney M would want a "something brainwash-y and perverse".
Some conditioning or hypnotism stuff ? LINK -> Broken Slave Variants -> Void Slaves
A dedicated House extension ? A special action for each one of them, for example, to gain sadism, you have to torture someone in the dungeon, but making *the slave* do it enough to the other slave ?
Some of them might be hard to fluff…
-ABSENT PHOBIA SECONDARY MODULE-
Some traits (especially the creepy-crawlies phobia) do nothing ingame a this time, or really not much (fire and so). We must find more uses for them !
(ABOUT NEW BROKEN SLAVE VARIANTS AND THEIR USES)
-BROKEN SLAVES VARIANTS MODULE-
Working on some already spoken things, some differences in gameplay, ups, and downs should be needed, with in mind the possibility to have a dedicated buyer or two (a low level and a high level ones), in the already existing buildings if possible. Possibility to give a better roll in the auctions with Broken Variants ? To add them in the Commissions rolls ?
Probably need a sub-family of traits, let's call them Mindbreak Traits for the moment, that can be seen in the stat page of a slave.
- Broken Minds: (the original flavor) probably should have some advantages in LINK -> Slave Molding, probably the better broken slaves for the Barn, the Stables, and blank mind or brainwashing stuff
Occurs when a slave Sanity is < 3, Sanity being Nature + Pride + Temperament. Obedience stats become 0, except Custom, that becomes 5. Slave has minimal learning skills too as it seems. Always F- value…Perhaps a little too harsh for the moment (on the "won't learn anything anyway" side).
They could be pokemorphed into other broken slaves variants as their bonus.
- Cum Sluts: Slaves that have been addicted to jizz via MagicJizzPotion (or some other magic stuff. or medical stuff.) Perhaps an MagicAntidoteJizz Potion to stop the addiction to the current level ?
Obedience stats go higher with each dose (Rational, Custom, Instinct), Intelligence, Nature and Temperament go down, high likeness to go oral, Alarm Rule is a fix, Sensitivity helps the process by making it go faster.
Suffers withdrawal if not "helped", stronger with levels ? Stamina penalties, Sanity penalties (so that a mismanaged cum slut goes mind broken too)
*OPTIONAL MECHANISM*: Sanity and Optimism +5 with a fix, -1 each action used. So if the girl is a real cumslut without fix or in withdrawal territory, she's useless. (I kind of like that a lot - non-perverse slave masters will have a harder time :D )
Suffers crash if too prideful to succumb to the call (= withdrawal with no help) ?
Probably better to make some trait levels, like "Tasting", "Liking", "Loving", "Addicted", "Junkie", "Craving", with different prices/checks so that each level is some kind of different requirement.
"Tasting", "Liking", "Loving" should be a little monetary upgrade from some buyers and so.
"Addicted" should be a new optional requirement for new buyers (LINK -> Extended market Module), and also give bonus sparks, but the max rank of the slave goes down because she's not classy enough anymore. Except for specialized buyers.
"Juice Junkie" (an alliteration, make a wish) is bad territory, the slave cannot be more than D.
"Cum Craving" (yes I do love alliterations) she has gone too far, and the rank cannot go higher then F anymore.
Yes, you're f*cked because you did it too many times and too long.
BUT there is a thing LINK -> Gloryhole Duty Module
No.2088
- Painsluts: broken tortured slaves. Need more work. Could make specialized high level slaves for Corvus house, Vampire food and such, and should include some sort of regenerating power given/gained after a long job, so they could also make powerful gladiatrixes.
- Void Slaves: mesmerized-into-oblivion broken slaves. Need more work. Mainly basework for specialized high level slaves to come in Molding.
- Fiend Thralls: slaves that are slave to a fiend and its…excretions. Need more infos about what Boney M has in mind with the Fiend Friend Tatoo. Thematic bonuses could be greater mucus and cum extraction. Probably nearly unsellable on the other hand, except for some obscure new buyer somewhere. Should have a specialized high-level Molded Slave dedicated. The Mucus Insight potion has to be needed somewhere along the path.
LINK -> "Fiend Friend Tatoo" already in the works
- Dreamer Slaves: Some kind of "too many drugs" slave. Partly oniric chimera. Rank goes down, but has special bonuses in art and magic, and some new buyer options would like them. Has perhaps random Attention ? One day she learns everything like downloading from the oonosphere, the other day she's totally stoned, and the third she's in withdrawal. If you load her too much brain can fry, aura can go haywire, and so on. Should use the combined effects of all the drugs already in the game, perhaps add some (more magic themed, the code is more than clear about the existing ones being things we know).
Need more work on them.
- Inner Beasts: Broken Slaves that did far, far too many pet and xeno things. Can't be selled at all even at nearly all the new buyers, but greater bonuses when using them as House Pets, Bitches, and Cattle. Drained Intelligence and no Rational anymore. Can't Despair (too far gone) but can Spoil. Can't have non-paraphilia items.
OPTIONAL: Bonuses to Gladiatrix things. Unleash your beastwoman. YES, you CAN go all Conan-y on your girl and make her the fiercest untamed warrioress the worlds have ever seen.
What is better in life, Isabela ?
I've tried to find inspiration for demonic- (House Camira) and vampiric- (House Corvus) tainted slaves but I didn't get any groundbreaking ideas at this time… Except for potions names. Like Lustful Fire and Night Essence respectively.
No.2089
-BROKEN SLAVES USES MODULE-
Mainly a reminder to find some new uses for mind-broken slaves (the vanilla ones).
The Barn already gives some potential uses (as cattle)
LINK -> Barn Module
Possible specialized high level slave that need a vanilal broken one: Fuck Toy.
At this moment, I've no idea appart the specialization giving bonus sparks with some auctions and specialized buyers.
-GLORYHOLE DUTY SECONDARY MODULE- (Light Money Generator and Broken Slave User)
A new low-class money maker upgrade, I think the name explains a lot.
Think assembly-line work there. Needs obedience enough to make oral and perhaps some groups things, low pride, and should have some sort of Obedience checks to avoid runaways. Needs to be constructed first LINK -> Gloryhole Module.
Oral and such skills directly decide the money of each "round" and if the round is "won" (money or not), and the number of "rounds" is not dependent on the slave. So high stamina recommended. Mood hits are in line too. The system SHOULD use up the slaves faster than they can tank it with a regular training (you'll need to change them, but you can easily train other ones, it's a light requirement relatively speaking). The thing should also very slowly give Despair, give "bad food moodlet" and past 2 rounds "won", slaves should get "nausea" of some kind.
Cum Sluts get special bonuses there (lesser mood hits for hardship/fatigue).
If Liking, slaves do no more gain "bad food" moodlet.
If Loving, no more Despair gained by slaves.
If Addicted, no more "nausea" debuff.
If under MagicJizzPotion effect, they gain cumslut_xp.
If Addicted, they gain cumslut_xp even if not anymore under MagicJizzPotion (antidote for example).
Yes, this is so that your cumsluts spiral deeper into cumsluttery. How cool is that. They'll get better at the job but will never do anything else.
From Addicted and above, they gain BONUSES, actually gaining mood, obediences, and bonus rounds (so more sparks aaaand..) and they gain calories for rounds after the 4th.
*cough* Yes, Hell called and my flight is booked, I've got a window seat.
-SLAVE MOLDING MODULE-
Here be dragons. Ahem, I mean, here be advanced fetish-linked things you can do to slaves, with moderate to heavy requirements, with in mind the possibility to have a dedicated buyer or two (a low level and a high level ones), in the already existing buildings [1] if possible. Possibility to give a better roll in the auctions with Moldings ? To add them in the Commissions rolls ?
Probably traits prereqs to make all things go smoothly (LINK -> Broken Slaves Variants Module, LINK -> Corruption Module, …)
[1]Example: In the Animal Farm for Breeding byproducts.
Probably need a sub-family of traits, let's call them Molding Traits for the moment, that can be seen in the stat page of a slave.
-BREEDER SECONDARY MODULE-
Already spoken of.
An extension of the actual Barn mechanics, allowing somes slaves (mind broken ones ?) to be surrogate breeders for the highly rare farm animals, after some medical mod in the TechnoSphere that has this name (Breeder).
LINK -> Stables Secondary Module
-EQUINE ESSENCE SECONDARY MODULE-
-An advanced use of the ponygirl fetish. A Medical Mod makes her more permanently ponylike.
One of the "highly specialized slave" you can have to sell. Needs a lot of stats, mainly the useful ones for the Hippodromos, Stamina, Instinct/Taming, Dressage, also Dressage Affinity and Meekness to make things hard because they're traits. You may have to put them into the ponygirl LINK -> Corruption Module.
Needs more appeal.
-On the other hand, one slaver could also train Inner Beasts Ponies to quickly sell them to the Hippodromos
-PUPPETEER SECONDARY MODULE-
No.2090
(ABOUT NEW BUILDING POSSIBILITIES AND NEW BUYERS WITH NEW PREREQS)
-EXTENDED MARKET MODULE-
LINK -> Broken Slaves Variants, Slave Molding Module, Broken Slaves Uses Secondary Module)
Already existing candidates:
- The moneylender's den could become a dump for Cumsluts.
- The Animal Farm for Inner Beasts
- The Hippodromos for Ponies and Equine Essences
- The Alchemy Store for Dreamers
- The Theatre for Painsluts
- ? for Fiend Thralls
- ? for Fucktoys
-FOGGISH SUBURBS REHABILITATION SECONDARY MODULE-
There's a lot of houses there with nothing in it. It COULD be a good idea to stuff those little cabins with dangerous perverts highly unwelcome in the City with incredibly kinky fetishes for totally f*cked up slaves.
-ALCHEMICAL MADNESS MODULE-
New potions ! Yeaha !
- Fountain of Life potion: A potion used in conjunction of all things Cum-Sluts-related (give power, rate of fire and magazine size bonuses, if you know my meaning). Can be used to… lighten the food costs… with th right slaves.
- Mucus Insight potion: a potion used with the Fiend Thralls stuff LINK -> Broken Slaves Variants Module
No.2113
>>2070Okay my research is yielding little. I'm trying to find scientific papers on the emotional impact of this stuff and all I'm getting is sweeping generalizations that don't exactly help me write a believable scenario involving this stuff. Fuckkkkkkkkkkkk. Still chugging along. I'll find something eventually.
No.2114
sorry if this has been answered already, but what exactly is a concubine?
The whole sex tree or just a part of the sex techniques?
No.2115
>>2114 Just a sum of sex skill levels from anywhere
No.2123
>>2081The version on Github uses a different base version to the one I started with, and is apparently written by and for Russians. I've exchanged notes with the fellow managing it but it looks like the two branches will remain separate.
>>2082Yeah, a lot of the variables are misspelled, and I have to fight the urge to either correct them or start misspelling the new variables I'm adding. My poor, precious sanity…
>>2113Keep in mind there's a gulf between 'absolutely 100% realistic' and 'believable'. You could always handwave some sort of spell or potion that accelerates a girl's emotional and behavioral progress into living a life as cattle, so that it can be both unrealistic and believable.
Next post will be after I read through Alploochra's wall of text carefully, looks like there's a lot of good stuff there.
No.2124
>>2085>PATRICIAN MODULE>enticement to train heavily disobedient slavesPerhaps the losers in the house's political machinations, or the daughters or wives of losers. And then they fetch a much higher price upon sale because they were of noble stock.
Apart from that, it's good ideas but it's very very late-game, which I don't think most players even reach. I'd rather flesh out the early- and mid-game first, considering one of the first additions of the mod extended the late-game by allowing someone to become Patrician of all four houses.
>BROTHEL MODULE>I think that the way the Barn is developping is a solid ground to make something similar with a BrothelExactly right, the Barn works the same way I envisioned the brothel as working, except on a much smaller and more easily-written scale. I've actually got a sketched-out org chart for a brothel around here somewhere, involving, as you said, various exhibits. Assuming everything in the Barn works properly - and so far it seems like it will - the next addition like it is probably going to be a Brothel. Or rather…
>GLORYHOLE MODULEThis seems like a good middle ground between the Barn and an entire Brothel - an addition of your house for a couple gloryholes and wallbutts. Also more easily accessible for most players.
>>2086>fatten up meat cattleIt should be in the next version, since all it requires is a slow increase in fat and possibly the ability to order your farmhand to automatically slaughter the girl, stock the fridge, and sell the excess - this will make it a very low-maintenance 'dumping ground' for broken slaves. Internally she's been labelled the 'pig', to go with the cow and the chicken girls.
>STABLESSince it'll also require some sort of addition to the hospital to add some sort of hyper-adaptable womb to a slave, this may not be in the coming version. I'll see how much the code cooperates.
>KENNEL I'll pencil this in for the coming version, since it'd be a very simple addition. It'll allow both xenophile and broken slaves to do the job, but well-trained xenophiles will be more profitable.
>HAREM MODULEI'd have to double-check, but I'm almost certain this would be a coding nightmare since the game's code is built on the assumption there'd only be one active slave at a time. It's not impossible, just likely to be a disproportionate amount of work.
No.2125
*cough* Can't sleep again, so more working
-ALCHEMICAL MADNESS MODULE-
New potions ! Yeaha ! May give some Spoil for the slave healing ones
- Fountain of Life potion: A potion used in conjunction of all things Cum-Sluts-related (give power, rate of fire and magazine size bonuses, if you know my meaning). Can be used to… lighten the food costs… with th right slaves.
- Mucus Insight potion: a potion used with the Fiend Thralls stuff LINK -> Broken Slaves Variants Module
- Inner Fire potion : give the slave an enormous Stamina boost (enough to max out, eventually - but needs a Spark of Life)
- Beast of Burden potion: for 5 days, the slave has an endurance boost
- Mending Heart potion: take some Despair away
- Night Essence: needed to make a Thin Blood a Vampire Bride
- Lustful Fire: needed to make a Succubus a Succubus Slave.
- Eternal Agony: what makes the Painslut upgrade to a Lost Painslut.
May use some of the new ingredients of LINK -> Blood Magic Module and Human Ressources Secondary Module
-BLOOD MAGIC MODULE-
A lab extension with a very…darker…inclination.
Strong spells that needs specific ingredients. Some of them could be found at the Magic Shop.
Or in a new one LINK -> Dark Rituals Secondary Module
The spells should have great hits on a slave-in-training but at great costs.
Could lead to some Mindbreak and Molding Traits LINK -> Broken Slaves Variants and Slave Molding Module
Possible (base ?) ingredients:
- Precipitated Fog
- Ancient Blood Droplet (to make Night Essences)
- Hellfire Brass Extract (to make Lustful Fire)
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Possible spells:
- Phylacterium (get the slave to max Void Slave status)
- Eldricht Call (get the slave to the advanced stage of Fiend Thrall status, Tentacle Breeder)
- Empowered Passion (give a high Nature boost to a slave)
- Wild Spirit (give a high Temper boost)
- ?
- Overwhelming Flesh (lock the slave at a high arousal state. WILL turn her in a Lust Slave in the end)
- Enslaving Thoughts (lock Rational at 5)
- Bargained Soul (make your slave a Soulless)
- Daemonic Possession (upgrade your Soulless to a Fledgeling Succubus)
- Blood Ties (make your slave a Blood Doll)
- Midnight Feast (upgrade your Blood Doll a Thin Blood)
-> LINK: Broken Slave Variants
-HUMAN RESSOURCES SECONDARY MODULE-
Some of the Blood Magic ingredients can only be gathered FROM slaves
May need broken slaves for some. Other specific traits for others like Virgin, Immature (yOu MoNStEr), Graceful, Meekness for some mind control spell
- Human Blood and Virgin Blood (need a slave with the specific trait, drains stamina, needs a nurse check to not kill her)
- Virgin Deathblood (when you killed the slave by draining her blood)
- Beating Virgin Heart (sacrifice a… (true) virgin)
- Child's Tears (get them with enough torture from Immature without killing her)
- Mother's Gift (need a milf and kills her. For true evulz, need a PREGNANT milf ?)
- Spark of Life (drain a full Stamina slave to death)
- Bottled Soul (drain a high Nature slave, probably break her)
- Shattered Self (gain Obedience of a max pride slave)
- Cursed Senses (take all the max Sensitivity from a (true) Virgin away and yes, it is so you may have to poketrain one specifically for that to have a stable source)
- Coruscating Grace (stolen from Graceful slaves)
- Pure Obedience (convince a Meek and high Devotion slave to give it to you, make her feeble and really moody, so you have to build her up again)
- Coalesced Despair (push a slave to suicide with max Despair, so you have to be quick, without killing her)
-DARK RITUAL SECONDARY MODULE-
A new shop in Corvus Quarter with some costly spell ingredients or why not the spell scrolls to learn them. Need a picture at least.
-VIRGIN PURITY MODULE-
Possibility to track "true" virginity and have some great rewards in return. Big sparks in aunction and to some new White Quarter people in Vatican.
-WAYS TO FAME MODULE-
Other ways to gain fame than the Arena ?
Some sort of skills and base stats battle royale with randomly generated other slaves (there's already a random generator for the aunctions) ?
No.2126
ADDENDUM:
-NEW BROKEN SLAVES VARIANTS-
- Soulless : your slave has been given her soul away to infernal powers. She can't gain any Temper, Nature or Pride anymore. Similar to the vanilla broken state, she can't learn anything efficiently, and can't gain neither Rational nor Devotion nor Spoil nor Despair. Can't be selled to anything Vatican-related (or perhaps to one specific buyer that want to study the enemy ?). Can't be drained for things that aren't here anymore (LINK -> Human Ressources Module). Some daemonic buyer at Camira buy them in full containers (to make daemonic hosts), so you can be an evil flesh&soultrader. She's F- for nearly everyone.
Can be upgraded to a Fledgeling Succubus.
- Blood Doll : the Corvus pendant of the Soulless, specific buyer there and all. Your slave is addicted to being sucked. By vampires, I mean. Need to have been drained of blood once at least. F- for anyone that isn't a vampire. Those buy them like no tomorrow.
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-NEW MOLDED SLAVES VARIANTS-
Reminder: Molded Slaves are generaly no longer Broken, but look for specifics
- Succubus Slave: Broken Slave -> Soulless -> Fledgeling Succubus -> Succubus Slave
Fledgeling Succubus gain an enormous obedience hit, you'll NEED to punch them and defend against them, till you can give them the Lustful Fire. Or not. Some like rough love. You're basically subdueing a conjured demon by doing that.
And the Soulless might be kind of lacking skill-wise.
Succubus Slave has specific vendor and give a crapload of added cash.
Both Succubi need a Bottled Soul once every decade.
- Vampire Bride: Broken Slave -> Blood Doll -> Thin Blood -> Vampire Bride
Thin Blood get a big Nature and Pride boost, you may need to reboot part of your training.
Vampire Bride gives a crapload more cash too.
Both need 1 Human Blood daily or will attack you, or a Virgin Blood once every 2 or 3 days
- Tentacle Breeder: Fiend Thrall -> Tentacle Breeder. Your slave can now breed fiend spawns without dying and in fact, she live only for it. Can only be given cum fiend as food. Is STILL BROKEN. So nearly no buyers.
The forum dude should be interested in such girls.
Perhaps can be slotted in the pen indefitely ?
Gain lots of mood with fiend cum and servicing the fiend.
Can't Despair (except when no fiend in the pen ?)
Can give you knew fiend spawns once a few days, that you sell for some coins, or use to start again after your fiend died.
Gives a cum fiend boost, so you can, like, use her as a dedicated slave to feed half your harem. Or more.
Need more work about gameplay things probably.
- Slavewolf: Inner Beast advanced molding. Basically boosts to the same things, impossibility to learn any civilised things, in short, you're making a human werewolf.
Need to be fed MEAT (and only meat) every day. A lot. yes, so you'll need cattle.
Really big cash bonus for dedicated buyers, F- for anyone else (SHE'S DANGEROUS DAMNIT), cannot be clothed, only animal-paraphilia things.
Heavy bonus when in Hound Slave slot. LINK -> House Staff Module
Gladiatrix bonuses ? Can't use weapons ? (May be hard to code)
Don't gain good mood from a lot of things; may need some punching when not fully trained, or when she decides to attack you (when not fully obedient).
- Lost Painslut: the Painslut upgrade. Can be taught things again, can't gain Despair, can't lose Stamina, Endurance boost, has no good food or good sleep or good f*ck modifiers. Gameplay-wise, you should NEED to make her sleep in the dungeon and be tortured once a day, min. Has already Deprivation and Masochism traits from Painslut. Specific buyers & all.
End for now
No.2128
>>2124Yeah, far endgame content is all but needed NOW. It's just that I have to write everything down or lose it ;)
> BrothelAll is well
> GloryholeNeed something special for dedicated buttsluts than ? No rush, just asking.
> Meat cattleCool. Or, not cool, cool that you can do it. You know what I mean.
> StablesAgain, no rush, I' writing brainstorm-y and far goal-y, I don't ask to throw all that in as soon as possible ! It's mainly there for critics.
> KennelOverlycool
> HaremFrom what I'm reading, prison slaves and assistants already are subjects to daily modifiers, so it may be just some case of copy/paste.
But I'm no real coder… I may be misled.
No.2129
>>2086>HOUSE STAFF>Balance changesI think the extra cost to house and feed all these slaves will be balance enough - especially since a slave should only be placable in these roles if she's already trustworthy.
Apart from that, the effects of the house staff are all pretty simple to code, and it will allow for a moneysink to balance out the extra income sources that are being added.
>CORRUPTION MODULE>conditioning or hypnotism stuffI don't think a new room is necessary, just require a lump sum expenditure and then it can use the laboratory. Maybe a new master skill altogether, or just tie it in to Allure, perhaps.
>ABSENT PHOBIAA lot of the phobias only really come into play with the more extreme torture options unlocked by a dungeon. But I can't really think of what more to do with them than is already done, they're pretty niche.
>BROKEN SLAVES VARIANTS MODULEFinding new uses for broken slaves is a good idea, I think, since I think a lot of people have a darker side that enjoys letting loose and absolutely breaking a slave. But I've only a few vague ideas for this right now.
Turning them into single-purpose slaves (eg. for gloryholes/wallbutts) is definitely an option, that I'll take another look at once it's time to add the minibrothel extension, assuming the Barn works as it should.
>>2088>Fiend ThrallsFiend tattoo is already written, though at the moment all it does is make the slave enjoy the taste of fiend cum (the same way a Pervert slave does) and make it impossible for a fiend to knock her up. I'm open to new effects for it, though.
>Dreamer SlavesI don't really know much about how drugs work in the base game, never really used them myself. But yeah, according to the code they're definitely analogues to real-life drugs.
>Inner BeastsIt'd be pretty straightforward to have the barn girls have increase output if they're 'beast slaves'. This seems like it'd have the same effect as the research Yiku's doing, so I'll see what he creates.
>GLORYHOLE DUTYI might make this a new type of 'training' for the mini-brothel expansion, put your active slave in there to take the place of any slaves you might have there full-time. It'd make for a way for a slaver to accelerate slave training with the right infrastructure.
>SLAVE MOLDING>EQUINE ESSENCE>>2090>>2125>>2126Seems more ambitious than anything else so far. I absolutely don't want to write it off, since this is all great stuff, I just don't want to put too many balls in the air and start dropping some of them. I'll park these notes somewhere and pull them back out once I've cleared out the current to-do list.
>>2127>It's just that I have to write erverything down or lose it ;)I know that feeling, I've got a bunch of notes here for stuff that's not going to see the light of day for ages.
>From what I'm reading, prison slaves and assistants already are subjects to daily modifiers,The assistant's modifiers are very much simplified - just skill advances and pregnancies from what I remember, possibly a couple other things. For example, her weight stays stable and her food costs are two sparks a day, for a grand total of one line of code to run an assistant's diet. For comparison, the slave's food and calorie calculation code is literally hundreds of lines long.
The prisoner's ones I haven't really looked into, but I've seen the code for it scattered about in the most unlikely of places. I mentioned before that every line of text that appears on the screen triggers ten thousand lines of code - most of that is extremely edge-case IF-THEN stuff, but within it is upkeep checks on prisoners in the dungeon.
Right, now that I'm up to date on the thread I'm going to take another run at getting the barn code to work. I spent a lot of hours trying to get the code to cooperate yesterday, and now I've given up and I'm going full cargo-cult programming by working inside the established code locations, so hopefully that will be more productive.
No.2131
Keep up the good work !
PS: You've some ideas already for butt-related slaves ?
No.2132
>>2131Apart from a position in the future mini-brothel, not really. You have anything in mind?
No.2133
>>2132Not yet ^^
Didn't even think about it, submerged by all the ohter kinks.
The whole cumslut_xp automated progression and added bonuses in the gloryhole wouldn't work properly, if I caught your meaning ? I'd really be about a buttslut_xp progression too.
First thing that comes to mind is some synergy between buttsluting and the "true virgin" thing …
And the second is the lack of things about butt specialities in the vanilla game, it's really poor in skills, items or special trainings. We may need to add some love there.
And definitively some broken buttsluts somewhere.
No.2135
>>2133The existing automated XP progression wouldn't work, but I can easily copy the code over into a daily check specifically for gloryhole slaves. And a buttslut XP option would be simple to add, too. So any ideas you have for that would be workable.
In other news, I've managed to get text displays working properly now, and progress is back on track. If anyone fancies themselves a writer, I could use small scenes that the slaver might stumble upon when he checks the barn - the cowgirl masturbating while milking herself into a bucket, the farmhand molesting the egglayer girl, whatever. For comparison, think about the size of the scenes you get at the Salon of Madam Jofre (the brothel in the Quarter of the Bull) or shorter.
I'll also be visiting /hgg/ on halfchan /vg/ and maybe /erp/ here and the lewder parts of halfchan /tg/ later to see if I can rustle up some snippets from them as well.
No.2138
>>2124
>HAREM MODULEIt sound familiar with
>>2012 . The harem/concubine can base on cell/cryosatic cell
No.2139
>>2137
That'd certainly be doable, it just sounded like the intention was to have a number of girls active at once instead of their status being essentially frozen in place.
No.2140
>>2139Further thoughts: I'm really, really hesitant to add anything that requires continuous effort on the player's behalf to maintain. If you need to visit your courtesans every so often to keep them satisfied, that's one more thing a player has to keep track of and it's very easy for that to stop being fun and start feeling like a job. That's why all these extensions are having a slave in a managerial role, so the player doesn't have to worry about the upkeep of their cattle/whores/whatever.
No.2141
>>2139Cryosatic cell much eaiser than Cell since Cryosatic cell's stats is frozen :D
No.2142
>>2135About things_xp
That's cool, because I can't seem to restrain myself from wanting to put xp progression everywhere these days.
I was just thinking, does frigid happen often ? Can we make it happen more often ? Teach it ?
For some kind of perverse thing about the broken version of the buttsluts… With a special jewel in the labia piercing to "seal" them, for example…
I think I've never been in the Joffre's Salon, ever. ^^
I've more problems writing sexual snippets than theorycrafting them in gameplay, sadly…
No.2143
>>2140That's why there is a Fluffer & Finisher job :p
No.2144
>>2140I thinking about that you can visit courtesans rather than whores's Jofre(cost energy and sparks) , ofcouse you dont need to visit too often 1-2 times each 10 days is enough.
No.2145
>>2142'Frigid' is something slaves can start with but as far as I can see if they don't start with it they never get it. The effect is they never enjoy vaginal sex and don't accumulate arousal. Strangely, there's no effect on anal sex - the enjoyment (or lack thereof) of anal sex is based entirely on how experienced they are with it.
>>2144It'd still be an obligation that penalizes the player for forgetting. Though Alploochra suggests, a fluffer & finisher negating that would make it a lot less annoying. I'll consider it further when it comes time to add courtesans.
No.2146
>>2145Yeah, better just not bother with the "exploiting frigid trait" thing (like the lesbian trait has bonuses when attending cattle or in the Fluffer & Finisher concept).
I'll keep in mind the sealing vag stuff.
You're saying anal sex doesn't depend on arousal either ?
No.2147
>>2146I went back to double-check and it sent me on a rabbit hole through a few thousand lines of code in five different locations to figure out how sex works. It was educational.
I was interpreting the code wrong. What it actually meant is that frigid girls are less likely to accept vaginal sex than non-frigid girls, but frigid girls are just as likely to accept anal sex as non-frigid girls. I don't think this is how it works in real life, though.
For sealing vag, I think it'd be better to go with temporary measures, like taping over the vagina before sticking her in the wallbutt. Actually making a slave impossible to penetrate vaginally would require a shitload of work tracking down every instance of vaginal sex in the code. Perhaps have the players self-enforce buttsluttery by having vaginal sex reduce buttslut XP would be the better way to go.
No.2148
>>2147Let's forget frigid, too situational and too rare.
For the cuntsealing code thing, perhaps we can work around, thinking about consequences rather than causes, like a sealed slave unable to gain sex skills related to vag sex and lose her cherry and not bother because of the item coding ? Without actually checking the hundreds of markers, I mean. It just goes back to zero changes. And giving passive buttslut_xp perhaps. And some sort of PERMANENT unaccessibility (like, can't take it away anymore) could be fun too.
That being totally compatible with your player-enforced view and butt_xp penalties :p
It's mainly about fetish. Body mod and objectification and all.
About the anal sex enjoyment, it's especially easy to make a slave like it at this time, but we can't change that without incredibly tedious work, I suppose ?
Nevermind, we'll make fun with the additional xp advance on the subject.
Last second idea:
Is it easy to add something in the physical description about this kind of changes ? There's already an evolving asshole sublet, could we had some "greener" ones like "velvety and experienced" and so on as buttslut_xp goes up ?
Thinking of it, something similar about lips (the mouth) ?
Last last second idea:
In a more further apart future, some medical mods for those parts too ? (like "autocleaning asshole" and "pillowy suckers")
No.2149
>>2148It'd be fairly straightforward to make it so that, forexample, a buttslut trait makes a slave always enjoy anal sex. There's a lot less anal sex in the game than vaginal sex.
The 'anatomy' page could be modified fairly easily too, to show the effects of either buttslut XP or some medical mods. If we're going this full on about anal sex, it'll also make sense to add a 'relaxed anal sex' option next to 'relaxed sex'.
I've said it before: I'm extremely hesitant to dive into the active sex code, but I think modifications to the flavour text for anal sex is straightforward enough for me to manage it without going insane.
Code update: code to add and remove slaves from the Barn is done, now I'm working on the end-of-day effects for having them in there. I've also added a 'how does this work' button to the Barn menu to explain anything I don't think would be immediately obvious.
No.2150
>>2149Things are going as planned.
Tomorrow, we'll try to take over the world.
I was just thinking, the barn gives hard-coded items and sparks, if I understood correctly. You've copied the actual milk, eggs and meat formula ? (with the Custom and Angst impact and all)
No.2151
>>2150Modified a whole bunch because I don't want to touch loops and to account for the farmhand modifiers and to put all the code in one block, but based on those formula. So yeah it'll pay in the long run to give your cow bigger tits, and if you're stupid enough to make a starving flat-chested half-dead loli your cow you're probably going to be running at a loss.
No.2152
>>2151Do they gain Angst or need Obedience stats or things like that ?
(I'm thinking now about the fact that "Broken" gives Custom 5, which gives both a good Obedience begin point and a big milk bonus - and that Angst gives maluses. Which I may have spoken of already, and forgot about it)
No.2153
>>2152Milk is modified by mood and angst, not custom. Here's the code:
slave['milk_gain'] = slave["boobs"] + slave["stamina"] - 3 + slave['mood'] - slave['angst']
And then a bunch of modifiers for weight. I've snipped out the mood and angst modifiers for the cow because it wouldn't really make sense for the mood you put a slave into the pen to have a permanent effect on output.
No.2155
>>2153Oh, but the daily milking *increases* custom, which might be where you got mislead.
No.2156
Code to top up the fridge with the products of your barn and sell off the excess is written, now I just need to add the code for the additional information for the end-of-decade financial information. Not super-necessary with just a barn, but with other expansions later it'll be nice for a slaver to see how much each of his enterprises is making him.
After that, it's just the pig-girl left to do and the basics for the barn will be done, though it could use a metric fuckton of flavour text.
After _that_, I'm going to take a look at making a slaver able to select what rank commission he takes on as per an Anon's request earlier in the week, and at that point I'll consider whether that's enough to call it a new version or maybe add the broodsow or look at what else there is to put in. It's been a productive few days.
No.2157
>>2155 It seems I took notes too quickly, yes, that's exactly that, the custom +=1 being among the milf and fat modifiers tucked me in…
Apologies.
So, there's no angst gaining in the Barn. It makes things perhaps too easy… Even broken slaves gain despair in other situations.
For consistency, maybe barn slaves should gain a little of both (mood+/- and despair+) but a good Farm Hand
overriding the - ?
That could also be used to throw a slave in the barn so she gains a little custom while doing other things.
For lulz, farm milking could also slowly expand boob size (not enough to be useful to slaves in training), something like a size every decade or two. For the fetish of a slave being suctioned/massaged all day long.
But it's probably tedious.
That's yours to decide !
>>2156Great !
No.2158
>>2157Yeah, this is where realism has to give way to entertainment. Having to keep track of the mood of your cow and egglayer would be a pain, and the slave would have been master-trained in being an animal or already have her spirit broken anyway.
It is perhaps a tad easy, but considering that the slaver has to be paying for the barn and for the modification on the slave, and then wait until the slave recovers from the surgery before they start producing anything, it's not that hugely broken.
I'll look into cow's breasts growing though, it should be simple enough to do since the milk code fires every day anyway, and I know that is some people's fetish.
No.2160
>been coding for a couple hours without testing
>get a terrible feeling
>save code, run game
>game hardlocks when game is started
FUCK
Time to scan through all that code for a missing colon or END.
No.2161
>>2160Oh thank Beelzebub, it was just a missing END in the new menu section.
Okay, just got to add the fattening and auto-slaughter code, then hammer out the food costs and the barn is done, complete with gradual breast growth for the cows and end-of-decade financial reports.
No.2162
>>2158Looking in the trainer, it seems there's a truckload of boob sizes, even beyond "Huge Udders" (but without art). Is it ghost code or will it add to the production ?
Not complaining though. Leave it like that :p
Looking on my notes on the other hand, I was thinking, "that's cool, with the Barn and the Gloryhole/Wallbutts" (you're sure about that word ? I'm a non-native speaker, and it makes me think of people without meat on their butt) so "with the barn and the Booth Duties, we are actually letting people get something from their early mistakes" (everybody breaks a slave or two or twelve in the beginning).
And also yes, productive few days ^^
>>2160Noooooooooooooo
>>2161Told you, we've got a first class place in Hell waiting for us, but Team underground forst want us to finish the magnum opus.
Like a Winchester Widow Curse. We'll live until we stop adding things to the game.
HEY just thinking about something, how is a cattle added to a barn slot ? From the "active slave" slot ? Isn't it locking the player from putting a new cattle in without freezing/selling/dungeoning the active slave ?
No.2163
>>2162>truckload of boob sizesEffectively ghost code, yep. Technically there's no ceiling to 'slave["boobs"]' but since you can only surgically increase breast sizes once, nothing above one-size-above-natural-max comes into play. As such I've put a hard cap on how big boobs can get from the gradual growth in the cow pen.
>WallbuttsHeh, it's from another /hgg/ game that came out, called SimBrothelTower or something? One of the first rooms you could get was where you stuck a woman in a hole in the wall with just her bottom half sticking out, and it was called a 'wallbutt' in the translated version. So it's not really an English term, just what I assume is a direct translation of a Japanese one.
>we are actually letting people get something from their early mistakesYeah, it eases up the difficulty curve a little, as well as people being able to do more with a broken slave than just taking her to the butcher.
>how is a cattle added to a barn slot ? From the "active slave" slot ?Yep!
>Isn't it locking the player from putting a new cattle in without freezing/selling/dungeoning the active slave ?Yep!
Technically it could be otherwise, as the 'put-slave-on-ice' code is a piece of omnidirectional witchcraft that works perfectly whether you've got a slave or not and whether there's a slave in the slot you're trying to fill or not. But I'd rather have it so that a slave can only be put in deliberately instead of 'oops I had that slave active while I was trying to take the pig out and now that slave got murdered by the farmhand :('.
I know it's mildly inconvenient, but better mild inconvenience (that you can easily get around if you rent a cryochamber with some of your mad barn profits) than accidentally sticking your slave where you didn't want to. Plus it saves me a bunch of coding.
No.2164
>>2163That's exactly the game I've stumbled upon while trying to google the word
No.2165
>>2162If your theory about Hell wanting this done is correct, then Angels must have invaded my computer, because I swear part of the weight gain code is hidden from me by some sort of supernatural intervention.
As far as I can tell slave["fat"] never, ever changes, and slave_rate["fat"] has unburned calories added to it and metabolism removed from it every day but that doesn't influence anything. But that can't be right because I've seen for myself that slaves get fatter and thinner. And I've tried searching for the terms in single-apostrophes too, still nothing. I even checked to see if slave["starvation"] was controlling weight gain, because weight gain being negative starvation is totally something I could see happening in this code, but no.
I think I may be going insane. Or more so.
No.2166
>>2165God fucking damn it. 'Fat' - not slave['fat'], just 'fat' - is defined in #variative as part of the '$indep_atr' array. And in '$calculate_atribute' it runs all variations of slave[$indep_atr[i]] through the same check to see if it goes up. This is how fat increases.
Satan himself wrote this fucking code.
No.2167
>>2166GN'AH CTHULHU R'LYEH F'TANGHN !
No.2175
>>2166Still neck-deep in fat ?
No.2176
>>2175I called it a day after I finished up the weight gain code, just gotta do the pig-slaughter and the barn's done and I'll start thinking what else to add. But I'm still waking up so that won't be for a bit yet.
No.2177
>>2176I'm thinking of just doing stock lines where the Slave-mother(still haven't found a better term for it) does the training of the slaves into cattle. Once that's written then I can fetish it up with the low empathy stuff. As for the high empathy stuff, I'll do that last.
No.2179
>>2177I've been going with 'Farmhand' so far.
No.2184
With the Fiend Tattoo, the option to select contract levels at the Guild, and of course the star of this version, The Barn, this is the most ambitious iteration of hggmod to date. I've tested it fairly extensively and everything seems to be in working order, so fingers crossed. Please let me know if anything outright breaks or just seems to be not working properly.
(and while I was being driven insane by the weight change code, I noticed a bug in the 'nutritionist' code from version 3, which should be fixed in this version. If your nutritionist was instantly stealing all the fat from your slave's body, rest assured this should no longer occur!)
Without any further hand-wringing, I present: hggmod version 4.
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod4 No.2185
>>2179Sounds good.
>>2184Maybe I'm just retarded but once we buy the Barn expansion how do we get it to work? Or does it auto-start once we have lactating girls? I need to know what's been set up in-game so I can write stuff for it.
No.2186
No.2187
>>2184>>2185Nevermind I found it. Hmmm, I'm thinking there should be a refusal check. Like if Pride is rank 1 or 2 or Nature is rank 5 or 6. They auto-refuse. It would make training for the cowgirl or the egg-laying girl much more rewarding because hey, the player worked for it.
I'm going to poke around the barn for a bit, to get a better grasp of the things I can write for it.
No.2188
>>2184Whoops, left in the debug code. In that version a lot of the requirements are removed, so you can (for example) make a non-lactating girl your cow even though she wouldn't give any milk. My bad guys, new version going up in a couple minutes.
No.2189
>>2188I'm going to stick with the Debug version for now for fairly obvious reasons.
No.2190
The in-depth explanation: You rent a barn from the real estate, at which point it shows up in the new menu under 'Domestic Issues > Business'. If a slave is lactating and either mindbroken or a fully-trained pet, she can be made a cow. Same deal with egglayers, except they need to be laying eggs. Pigs have to be either mindbroken or stupid. Farmhands need the same level of custom as an assistant as well as basic nurse and secretary skills.
If everything's working okay, you should get decent feedback on what the problem is if a slave is rejected for a role.
>>2189Good point. I'll throw up a 'proper' debug version with a few bugfixes I've made in the last few minutes instead, won't be a moment.
No.2191
Okay, here we go:
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod4debugShould be able to throw non-lactating/egglaying girls in those roles and they'll start producing milk and eggs nonetheless, and the roles will all accept any girl. You'll still have to go out and buy the barn to start out in this version though - the if barn = 1 check is in too many places for me to easily cut it out. I had bodged it in the earlier version by making it so you could access the barn menu whether you had a barn or not by I'm almost certain that'd fuck some things up.
No.2192
>>2191what about the fixed non-debug version?
No.2193
>>2192I think calling it 'fixed' may be tempting fate, but I'll de-debug a version for you.
No.2194
>>2192Non-debug version -
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod4alphaIf anyone has something go wrong with the game, please let me know and tell me which version you're using.
No.2195
>>2190>Farmhands need the same level of custom as an assistant as well as basic nurse and secretary skills.Isn't it Devotion/Moral ?
No.2196
>>2195Just double-checked the code, it requires moral/devotion, same as the assistant. Sorry, I get constantly mixed up because the code and text refer to all the aura things by different names.
No.2197
>>2194thank you, good luck with your future versions.
Could you maybe add a "pay for all services" option for slaver services at the saloon in white town?
No.2198
>>2197Didn't think there was any demand for that, but sure. I'll jot it down for the next version. Should be very straightforward.
No.2199
>>2196Oh yeah. I'm trying to memorise some kind of mantra to remember them.
Angst <> Despair
Rational <> Awareness
Custom <> Habit
Instinct <> Taming
No.2201
>>2198Yo Boney this is kinda off-topic but I'm learning Programming with C in at my college. This will be my first (official) programming language. Any tips?
No.2202
>>2201Apart from some bare-bones training-wheel languages about fifteen or twenty years ago I've never formally learned a programming language. I work entirely off monkey-see monkey-do and cargo-cult programming, and being entirely too stubborn for my own good. Which is a tip in itself: no matter what you're trying to do, chances are someone's done something similar, and you can always check to see how they did it. No need to reinvent the wheel every time you write a program. Don't directly copy them, just see how they did it and roughly follow their example.
Also: save constantly, save in a new version every time you finish writing or finish bug-checking a feature, and before you embark in a big project write down everything the program will have to do and mark things off the list as you do them. Having your own whiteboard on hand makes things so much easier it's practically cheating, a series of .txt documents are only slightly less helpful.
Use unique and memorable names for variables and write them all down as you go with short descriptions of what they are. You don't want to be neck-deep in code and think 'wait, what was the name of that variable again' and have to lose your momentum scrolling back up in the code to find out. And you don't want your program to shit itself because you thought you were creating a new variable but it turns out you used that name for something else. Long and unique variable names cost seconds and can save hours.
Always, always, always comment your code. If something is referring to elsewhere in the program, or it uses something that isn't immediately self-evident what it does just by looking at it, spend five or so words saying what that chunk of code does in a comment.
If in doubt, keep things simple. In code there's almost always a way to turn fifty lines of code into twenty and ten variables into three with some complex and terrifying piece of coding witchcraft. But if these pieces of computer sorcery fail to work it's an enormous pain in the ass to fix them. A computer can run a ridiculous amount of lines of code per second, so there's no harm taking the long way until you've built up enough experience to be entirely confident with computer witchcraft.
Test your code constantly. When you make a program, make the program able to be run first so you can test everything as it's added. That way when a problem crops up you know exactly what addition caused it. If you spend eight hours coding without testing, that's eight hours worth of code you have to sort through if the program fails to start. This exact scenario has happened to me on multiple occasions because of something so simple as a missing ':' or 'END'.
That's all that comes to mind. Best of luck to you.
No.2203
>>2202>mark things off the list as you do themOh, and by this I mean write 'done' or put a big capital D next to them, don't cross them out or erase them. You will end up thinking 'wait, did I remember that I would need to do X?' and at that point you can save a lot of time by being able to pull up your to-do list and confirming that you did do that, instead of having to go through the code to check.
No.2204
>>2194Trying at this moment to make a fully legit game and seeing what feelings prevail.
Seems working so far.
The Intelligence req for the fattening slot is a genius idea. Seriously. ^^
Eye-candy-wise, how hard would it be to make a pretty Barn icon in the main UI (like Cryo or Dungeon) that opens a summary secondary UI in the main windows, perhaps with a good wallpaper-we-have-yet-to-find, in which your actual slots are dispayed with a big title (Farmhand upside alone, Cattle downside, with Cowgirl, Egglayer, and Piggirl titles shown), and in this summary secondary UI you can simply click on a slot to fill it with the active slave, the slave showing the reduced pic of the slave like the previously mentioned Cryo/Dungeon slots ?
Is doesn't do anything new gameplay-wise, it's just for comfort. This way you can also check your actual cattle and the pics can do some mnemonic fun by remembering how you did what whit which slave. Gives a funny pokemonmaster feeling too.
Furthermore, you can use the exact same coding to any other expansion in the future - the Fucktoys (gloryholes ans wallbutts) extension, the Stables subextension, the Kennels subextension, the Street Pimping extension, the Brothel extension (I keep tipping "brother", Sigmund may have things to say here), and anything we come about…
Perhaps you already had some UI happiness in mind too.
On a similar note, a detailed gains&debts entry in the Domestic>Business>Reports thing is totally where it belongs. A pretty sum up of the "at this moment" balance could be cool in the secondary UI, on the other hand (for each slot eventually, so you can quickly see bad assets).
The game does not allow to chech the stat page of a girl that isn't active/assistant, and thi sis probably too complicated, I won't advocate it except if you say something along "na, piece a cake, already done it in fact".
Going back to work schedule: What are we doing next ? Do you want to brainstorm about it ? Need some specific idea ? Do I need to expand about something I said earlier ?
I'll refrain to post new versions of previous ideas of mine as possible, to not clog the thread too much.
I'll TRY at least.
No.2207
>>2204>UII've experimented but it's been uncooperative. I think it would be possible to have a sort of org chart with the portraits of the girls filling each slot displayed. UI coding is a fairly agonizing process, but if I do it once it'd be simple to adapt to each following variation on the barn, so I'll bite the bullet and see what can be done.
>"at this moment" balanceI'd have to experiment a little to be sure but I'm almost certain a day-by-day breakdown of the current week and the last week would be possible, is that the sort of thing you're talking about?
>The game does not allow to chech the stat page of a girl that isn't active/assistant, and thi sis probably too complicatedI… actually have no idea how complicated this would be. I'll check and get back to you.
>What are we doing next ? I was kinda expecting to be chasing bugs with the Barn for the next few days, so if it's working properly I'm not sure what the next thing to do is. The last few days have been much more productive than I expected. There's been one suggestion about a 'full service' button for the slaver in the Salon but that'd take me no time at all. I suppose expanding the Barn or working on a variation thereof would be the logical next step, but I want to cleanse the palate a little first.
Perhaps I'll take another run at the street prostitution idea. Currently I'm not really envisioning it as a good source of money, more of a 'I desperately need a few more sparks to pay the rent this decade' sort of thing.
I've also got a vague idea for some sort of device you can buy from the clinic that you or a medically-trained assistant can use to give a slave a check to see if she's got rotphilis or a pregnancy, which should be fairly straightforward.
No.2208
>>2207
>UIDon't make yourself ill about it - it's a cool thing, but perhaps not worth it right now when we haven't done the other "farming" modules. We must keep our spirits up and avoid motivational roadblocks, tha dedicated bane of hentai games (mods).
I don't know. What do you thing the priority is ?
>balanceSort of. Something simple, just to know that the thing is actually profitable, or not. And how much, relatively. And how better the new slave you just put in the slot is, or not. In my test runs, I've got a lasting feeling that "in wasn't worth it", and checking the business menu, I'm still not sure…
Perhaps a simple "estimated daily balance" ?
> Checking slotted slaves statsI'm pretty sure it's a nightmare.
It would be sad, you'd have to jungle through a handful of submenus to know how your secondary slaves are evolving in their owns.
It's not a priority on the other hand, it's more of a feedback thing - a beta version of the final mod tweaking thing, we're far from there.
> chasing bugsWant to drop links on forums to have a wider feedback ? (UMLF and Hongfire are the ones I've followed about Jack'o)
> full spa serviceYeah, hardly meaty enough for a new version, and it's not so often useful neither. But better UI is always cool.
> palate metaphorYou mean you'd better do something else ?
I'm game for anything, just ask for it.
This little game dev break is funnier than expected.
>Expanding barnThere's the Stables and the Kennels, but the former would need a little Technsphere change too, and the Kennels would use a temporary fix 'till we decide on the definitive mecs for the advanced beasty girls.
>Variation thereofThe Brothel or the Fucktoys Booth (i'm experimenting names for the cum/butt-sluts factory thing) are the closest thing we have right now.
I'm not sure if your vision of the Street Prostitution is like that, too.
We don't NEED the special rules for the dedicated sluts to have the first version of the booth going, so why not.
> Street prostitution perspectivesI think the optimal thing would be that it is a panic button thing on one hand, but can ALSO be more of a permanent sidething when things are better later in the game on the other hand.
The simpliest thing to do (keeping in mind what we have spoken of before) would be that vanilla slaves are a panic thing and take heavy hits by doing it without training, and are better sold if they have training.. Some advanced slaves you can unlock later are of the completionnist-for-the-fun-of-it empire-building touch and can be used on a permanent basis, with a low, but steady profit, when you have already bought the more profitable upgrades.
And we don't have to put the advanced ones right now.
>medical scannerWhy not put that in the Herbalist household staff too ? Just because you have one, you can check. (I had other ideas for this Herbalist girl, like making your automated whores from the faarming modules unable to become pregnant or ill).
Speaking of household and such, about sparks needed to feed the girls, do slaves take more fridge stuff when you feed them better ?
And more importantly, can the staff eat cum fiend too or they NEED to eat sparks ? (easy workaround could be to mutate excess fiend cum units into the price of a daily meal).
No.2209
>>2208If you want to taste something else than farming expansions, we can also make some background work about a common archetypal pattern that will be usable for any broken/conditionned/molded advanced slaves we decide to add in the future. Something trait and trait_xp based. Being done like that, it matters not what would actually trigger all the special slaves (potions, spells, blood spells, trances, …), we can decide later. Or change it later. Or even trash some variants. Or add moooooaaaaare of them.
No.2210
Anyone else having the same problem? I've added the english patch into the game files, but when I launch it, it just freezes at the english NOTICE screen at the very start. How do I fix it?
No.2212
>>2210What are you launching ?
No.2215
>>2208>estimated daily balanceI think what I'll do is make it so you can see how much profit you're making each day, so you can get a better idea of how much money is being made.
>Want to drop links on forums to have a wider feedback ? (UMLF and Hongfire are the ones I've followed about Jack'o)I'm open to the idea but my accounts on both of those sites are tied to my online identity. Boney M is just a pen-name for this project - based on the disco group of the same name who had a hit single about Rasputin. I thought it appropriate to use it as a name for my own artistic endeavours based on the works of an insane Russian.
That, and I'm a bit paranoid about coming off as self-aggrandizing. If you or anyone else are willing to share links to the mod on those sites though, I'm definitely okay with it.
>Street prostitution… a permanent sidethingThe problem with street prostitution as a permanent sidething is the high chance of pregnancy or disease which would take a toll on a slave if you left her in that position. Plus it being on the streets means the slave needs supervision. Permanent prostitution jobs would be more part of the brothel/fucktoys booth/whatever expansion, where there'd be a herbalist on hand to prevent pregnancy on disease.
>Why not put that in the Herbalist household staff tooHousehold staff is more of a late game thing. I was thinking more something that's convenient - no need to go to the Serpentine Quarter every time you get a new slave to check her for disease and parasites, just use the machine on her to check. If she does have a disease or a parasite, of course, you'd have to go to the clinic to get that sorted out.
Also I was thinking that if you had the machine and your assistant was set to 'supervise slave' and had medical skill, she'd alert you to any diseases or parasites or pregnancy.
>can the staff eat cumI hadn't actually thought of that. It'd be a good way to expand profit but it'd require a fair bit of expansion on fiends for them to be a large and reliable enough source of food.
Right, I've given it a bit of thought and here's where I'm at: What I'm thinking for it now is having multiple possible sources of fiends - a team of gladiatrices that captures them from the Fog that require a team of skilled slaves, messily mass-producing them through allowing cheap slaves to be impregnated and killed when they hatch that requires a small but constant spark expenditure for the slaves, and having a sort of laboratory set up where a single slave is repeatedly impregnated by fog fiends and then has the growing parasite removed to be grown in a vat that requires a single large one-off payment.
Once a… I guess I'll call it a 'fiend compound' for now is set up, you can start using the cum to feed your Barn and the future businesses, and any unused cum can be sold for a small amount of profit.
No.2217
Just got a popup saying my slave seems to be pregnant. My slave is a virgin.
Immaculate Conception. What do?
No.2218
>>2217Lurker here I got the same thing just starting up a new game. The only thing even remotely sexual I ended up doing was punishment of public toilet however she still remained a virgin, i'm not sure the pregnancy came from the punishment but I have done nothing else that would even flag this.
Also I don't know if this is just a chance happening but my starting assistant slave on sandbox mode for the first time was already pregnant with a parasite. Of all the builds I've played and of all the starts I have done I have never had that happen to me before.
No.2219
>>2215>profitProbably enough.
People not qgen-ing the files may not know the importance of milf status or boobs size and such things… (Fat is implied in the farmhand description).
Or the farmhand lesbianism.
>forum callsI've probably posted too much walls of text here and too much posts this last week to not be seen as self-aggrandizing too…
I've no online identity under this supervillain name, on the other hand.
> street prostAgreed.
It also has a kinky slum & filth evil meat grinder thing to it, on the other hand. And slaves can be sterilizied. And it could be a dump ground for easily-trained burn-it-till-it's-dead use for cheap slaves. For example, lust slaves you fucked up with (theorical) Fiery Loins and Overwhelming Flesh potions.
This supervillain secret identity is getting to my head.
Speaking of that - I'm more and more thinking that Sterilization and Virginity should have more permanent effects, we're thinking of a lot of ways to take other routes and/or exploit those statuses.
> magimedical scannerFurthermore, Assistants already have a good reason to have nurse skills, they should use some of it to make those med checks.
>fiends industryMay I make you look back to the Fiend Thralls and Tentacle Breeders concept from earlier posts ? :p
(all of this and your ideas packed into a Pen Expansion Module)
Instant thoughts:
- Thralls and Breeders should NOT have the Fiend Friend Tatoo, thinking of it, to be upgraded. And yes, without them, you kill slaves each time. And reboot training each time.
- Your Fiend Lure could be a special slot in the Pen (expanded pen), that needs a Tentacle addict with a lot of gladiatrix skill. Sort of the Pen's Farmhand/Madam.
- You should work to be able to use the fiend cum as food - that means, for example, Fiend Friend Tatoo or Perverse preversion (sic) (or Thrall/Tentafan trait) in each slot that substitute cum to sparks ?
Are broken slaves moody when fed cum ? If not, broken slaves don't mind too ?
- Do we have some sort of precise patch note ? (for gondorfires-calling some betatesting on forums)
No.2220
You know what would be a great quality of life upgrade?
"Crate of item" items. A whole crate of sundresses, spiked collars, pairs of boots, etc. Something to streamline the new slave shopping trip process.
You could add a warehouse you could rent, but what would probably be easier would be to add exorbitantly priced versions of things. Pay 100x the normal price for an item to never have to go buy one of that item again.
Or, you could add a "home delivery contract". Pay a particular amount to a given store and then that store will just bring you a sundress or whatever from the equipment screen.
No.2221
>>2220You're asking to trade 5 clicks for 4 clicks, and that only if you give the exact same items to every and all slave you train.
It seems a rather niche thing to me…
Furthermore for a hundred times the individual price.
And if you gift clothes and jewelry, the slave already immediately put them on. Without having to go out of your house. And without additional sparks.
No.2222
>>2221>Furthermore for a hundred times the individual price.I mean if you've that kind of money, you're already selling slaves for 10k bucks. And you don't train them in bulk anymore.
No.2227
>>2212I'm launching jack.qsp from the jack_eng file using FastQSP.exe from the FastQSP file.
No.2228
>>2217What did you do with that slave before she got knocked up?
>>2218Checked the code, 'public toilet' has a small chance to impregnate a slave but never takes their virginity. I guess the idea is that there's a chance someone'll fuck the slave even though she's covered in piss, but they forgot to code virginity loss as well. I'll bugfix that in version 5.
>>2219>Fiend Thralls and Tentacle Breeders conceptI'll go back and re-read those and get back to this post.
>>2220It'd be fairly straightforward to code a 'standing order' for each item that automatically pays for and replaces items that you don't have in your inventory at the end of each day. I'll jot it down for version 5.
>>2227Use the file: Jack_FastQSP.bat
No.2229
>>2219>may not know the importance of milf status or boobs size and such thingsI'll put more details of how it works in the patch notes.
>And it could be a dump ground for easily-trained burn-it-till-it's-dead use for cheap slaves.The 'pig' role in the Barn fits this, and I'll add something similar to the fiend compound. But you're right that that'll tickle some people's fancy - I'll pencil in something like that for the minibrothel expansion, which currently looks like it'll be in version 6.
>Sterilization and Virginity should have more permanent effectsSure, once we get into the more mystical and ritualistic stuff later on.
>fiend thrall and tentacle breederThese require the 'molded slaves' thing which is still a bit off, but they can definitely be added as positions to the fiend compound when the molded slaves are added to the game.
>Fiend LureI hadn't thought of that, it's a good idea.
>that means, for example, Fiend Friend Tatoo or Perverse preversion (sic) (or Thrall/Tentafan trait) in each slot that substitute cum to sparksI was thinking that if you've got a farmhand it's the farmhand's job to make it so that the girls in the Barn drink the cum, but the farmhand would only drink it if she had enough preversion_xp - which she would generate while force-feeding cum to the other girls.
>Are broken slaves moody when fed cumIt reduces their mood, but the mood of broken slaves is mostly irrelevant.
>Do we have some sort of precise patch note ? (for gondorfires-calling some betatesting on forums)I'll which up a version 4 beta to go out on the Gondor fires, should be done within about twenty minutes.
No.2230
>>2229>should be done within about twenty minutesHold up, just thought up a new tweak to the Barn. Shouldn't be too long.
No.2231
>>2218>my starting assistant slave on sandbox mode for the first time was already pregnant with a parasiteThere should be code in place to stop this from happening but it might not be working properly with the 'sandbox' button. I'll look into it for version 5.
No.2232
Beta version of hggmod version 4, complete with readme (now with extra information about how the barn works):
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod4beta No.2233
>>2232Oh cool ! Thank Boney M !
No.2234
>>2220Or maybe add Colar,boot and some more item to gift list ?
No.2235
>>2234If you could gift those items, do you think anyone would still give them to their slaves via the inventory screen?
No.2236
>>2228> Immaculate ConceptionIn real life too can cum-soaked girls become pregnant while still being virgins…
And that is NOT speaking of religious figures.
>>2228>>2235> Standing orderAren't slave clothes and items in the slave's inventory, not the slaver's one ?
>>2229>pigsAccording to the forums, a significant (read: a real minority, not just one guy) part of the fanbase can't stand the more "extreme" fetishes of the game, allegedly for morale reasons. Especially cannibalism. That's why I think of other options. That and the fact that I really really like to have a truckload of choices.
What is "the most extreme fetishes" vary from people to people, and is somewhat foggy (like being alright with rape but dead against beatings; or okay with fiend incubators if they aren't lolis; or simply okay with slavery but only if you are a kind slaver that gists fluffy shoes and wedding dresses. Some people may need a shrink.)
I spent some times stalking the Slavemaker community, too, and the thing I learned is that sometimes a player just want one precise kink and nothing else, too. hence trying to cover a maximum range.
>Steril' & Virgo'Great
>Thralls and breedersAbsolutely, but it's lightening your load for the first draft, if you're already set about adding them later. Which I'm happy knowing !
> Perverse FarmhandI'm totally okay wwith that for the barn.
And it's not a question about the expanded pen.
But what about the brother girls and the booth slaves ? Does the Madam force them automatically too ?
> Moody broken slavesBut do they gather despair, and die, then ?
i'm asking because, if there is no problem whatsoever with them being fed fiend cum, there's no point in making mechanics to protect them or to make them receptive.
>>2230New tweak ? Let me know let me know !
A final managerial question:
Do you use the grimdark graphical mod ?
i'm asking this because, if aesthetics were needed, we could use some of the pictures that were written over by the mod. Or the other way around. We've potentially a lot of now unused graphical assets, absence thereof in the hggmod will go more glaring the more we add things.
No.2237
>>2236>But what about the [g]brother[/g] girlsTOLD YOU !
WHAT IS THIS ALWAYS HAPPENING !?
No.2238
>>2228Am i supposed to insert that Jack_FastQSP.bat file anywhere? When i launch it, it gives me the Russian game.
No.2239
It seems you have not correctly patched and tradpatched your main directory.
No.2240
>>2236>In real life too can cum-soaked girls become pregnant while still being virgins…Sure, but that seems the less likely scenario here. And according to the comments on that bit of code (and google translate) there was originally virginity loss code in the public toilet bit but it was removed later on.
>Aren't slave clothes and items in the slave's inventory, not the slaver's one ?Come to think of it I think they are. There should be a workaround, though.
>can't stand the more "extreme" fetishes of the gameI think people who draw the line so that working a girl to death is okay but eating her after isn't is a pretty small group, but you're right that it's best to cater to as wide a variety of kinks as possible.
>what about the other girls and the booth slaves ? Does the Madam force them automatically too ?It'll be an option, just like it will be for the Barn.
>But do they gather despair, and die, then ?Yeah, suicide is still a risk with them normally, but as long as their mood isn't bottomed out it's pretty much irrelevant for them. Slaves in the Barn don't have mood, though - it'd be an overwhelming amount of micromanagement if you had to actually worry about how all the different girls in your various businesses were feeling. Hence why you'll need a farmhand to feed the barn girls cum - managing their mood will be part of her job, which justifies it being handwaved away.
>New tweak ? Let me know let me know !If you don't have a farmhand to take care of them, slaves in the Barn with endurance above Healthy will have it slowly drop towards Healthy. And if their endurance is less than Healthy, it will increase until it becomes Healthy.
>Do you use the grimdark graphical mod ?I do when I'm playing for fun, but not when I'm modding, since I figure most people won't have it. There'll probably need to be new pictures with hggmod at some point, but I'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
>>2238Yeah, as Alploochra said, if you patched it correctly it should be running the English version of the game.
No.2241
>>2240>Immaculate ConceptionSo that's more of a fiend-milking-assistant-can't-be-infested case.
> thingsYeah i'm speaking a lot about far flung bits, because it seems you've already covered the closer ones.
Lit the Gondor Fires.
Rohan said something about going through a tunnel.
No.2242
>>2241Yeah, ideas tend to move a lot faster than code does. I've filled up an entire design doc for version 5 and I've started on 6 now. Though that sure as hell beats the alternative where I had no idea what to add and just put the entire project on the backburner.
Glad to hear the Gondor Fires are lit. Thanks for that.
No.2245
I love this game.
Boney you should make a forum/website to keep track of changes pls
No.2251
I just had an issue where a slave i submitted after mind breaking into egg laying for the barn disappear on me.
Had a poor quality slave
Augmented for egg laying
Broke her will and waited for recovery time
Had her placed in for egg laying and was yielding a negative of 30 for operations for 3 cycles
Attempted to place a cow in for milking
Cow slot is filled and Egglaying slot is empty
Put current slave in Cryo Stasis and attempted to retrieve this current slave
Received nothing.
I'm in sandbox mode trying a number of things to see if there are any issues and so far its the only one I've noticed.
No.2252
>>2251To further clarify I attempted to retrieve whatever was in the cow slot and I received nothing.
No.2254
Zeus… I'm suddenly remembering why i didn't participate much in Hongfire's threads…
I'll buffer the feedback for you Boney !
No.2255
anyone interested in improving the grimdark mod?
No.2257
>>2251>>2252I knew there'd be something. I found the issue and fixed it, the fixed version is here:
http://www.filedropper.com/hggmod4beta2Thanks for letting me know, especially with the amount of detail you gave - made it a lot easier to find the cause.
>>2254I checked the thread, and no offense, but I think you overreacted a bit. I appreciate you wanting to defend the mod, but it's never a good idea to try to tell someone their subjective opinion is wrong. All it does is angers that person and gives onlookers a bad impression.
When I started this mod I didn't set out to make the game objectively better, because that's impossible. A change one person likes will be disliked by another person. All I am trying to do is give people options, and they absolutely have the option to not use the mod, and I feel no ill-will towards someone if they decide to take that option.
>>2255What did you have in mind, exactly?
No.2259
>>2257Good thing I got the slave training down to a science now so remaking my trainer should be pretty quick I'm just trying to find bugs by attempting anything I can think of.
I had one unique experience where equipping certain clothing than un-equipping would give me the next level up to whatever stat it was effecting on the Master.
Example:
Training Gladiator Skill on my Master by training every single Slave as a Gladiator.
Skill is currently in blue
After about 8 Girls
Equip Aketon to raise skill to Teal.
Immediately Un-equip Aketon, skill still remains at Teal despite no further skill training.
I have done this when I believe my skill is just about to hit the next level just so I can get it out of the way, and I want to say its because the skill is so close to leveling up that by equipping that gear its just rounding up to the next level.
I've tried replicating the issue without having done any training to the skill and so far I cant just level up the skills by equipping different clothing over and over. (At least not through 50 equips of the same gear)
No.2260
>>2259That's a strange bug. I'll see if I can untangle the clothing skill increases and see what's causing it. Thanks for the info, and your continued bughunting efforts.
No.2261
>>2260well like I said it seems to be pretty minor I've only had it happen about 3-4 times through my play history and thought its probably just a rounding up issue. Also do you think we should start a new thread at some point or should we wait for this to get bumped to page 3?
No.2262
>>2257Sorry, I've personal issues with people stomping in a beta group and howling it's so shitty they didn't even tried it. Furthermore if what was asked was betatesting the thing.
I can't stand authority-compensating forum warriors.
No.2263
>>2261A day in the life of Boney M, told in the form of the adventure to hunt down this weird occurrence, might want to skip over it if you value your sanity:
Okay, changing your clothes sets the dynamic item_property['whatever'] as setting boost_up['skill'] to 1, and then fires $newloc, which runs that dynamic, and then checks if boost_up is 1 for each of the skills, and if it is then it just adds one to that skill. It kills the entire item_property array before it runs the dynamic so it can't be leftover variables. And it doesn't touch the master_rate for skills, so it shouldn't be affecting how skills increase at all. So maybe, thinks I, this isn't a bug at all, it's just a problem of the game not checking to see if Anon's skill is ready to advance until changing clothes prompts the check.
Slaver skills advance only when $calculate_atributes is run, which only happens when $newloc is run, which only happens when you change your clothes and practically never otherwise. Or so I thought, but then I noticed while I was staring baffled at $onnewloc = 'newloc' that $onnewloc was blue, which signifies it's part of QSP and not this game specifically. So I googled and then translated from Russian found that whatever you define $onnewloc as, it'll run that when the location changes.
But this game's code doesn't really have discrete locations, it just bounces the player from menu_form to interaction to interaction_result to interaction_screen and back to menu_form. But there is the 'curloc' definition, which sends you to… well, I don't know where. There's no 'loc'. So I look at the code for leaving the house and $place seems like a good contender. So I have now reached the conclusion that $newloc fires whenever $place changes. How often does that happen?
As it turns out, all the goddamn time. Your slave bathing changes the $place to the bathroom. Someone cooking changes it to the kitchen. So maybe it's not $place changing? I googled again and found fuck all results for 'curloc' and '$place' together on the QSP forums. So $place is unlikely to be what triggers $onnewloc. I briefly try to track down what $place does exactly but it appears constantly in the code so I think better of it. Back to the drawing board.
I start searching through the QSP website through Google Translate. Apparently curloc 'returns the name of the current location'. Which is different to what I had assumed it does and leads me to believe it's not connected to $onnewloc at all. Further reading on the site leads me to the conclusion that 'location' is QSP jargon for the discrete code chunks that make up the game, and practically anything the player does bounces them between three or four locations as various pieces of code run. So $onnewloc, and thus $newloc, fires multiple times every time the player does anything.
Which means I've been barking up the wrong tree all this time. But hey, I learned more about what makes the game run in the process, and it's cheaper than buying a newspaper to do the crossword. I'll circle back around on this later on - it's an extremely minor bug that doesn't really hurt anything but I can't resist a challenge.
No.2264
>>2262Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, that can be pretty aggravating. But it's an opinion. Some people try to use their opinions to attack the things they don't like, but that only works if other people acknowledge the opinions as weapons. If you continue to treat the opinions as opinions, it removes any power they have.
Pic very much related.
>>2261Is this thread at bump limit? If so, yeah, we probably should. Whoever does so, if you're going to mention hggmod in the OP just make it a mention instead of a focus. The thread should be about the game itself first and foremost.
No.2265
>>2263>>2264Maaaan, trait_xp are in newloc, of course it fires all the time :p
>>2264I'll try.
But… Uncontended blind opposition is what always starts the fall of human endeavours…
I've no experience in 8chan, I didn't even know how to post in it before last monday, what are we speaking about ?
No.2266
>>2265Yeah, I was thinking that the code for it might be duplicated or GS'd or dynamic'd in nextday or something. If I only went with theories that made sense I'd never make any headway with this game.
No.2267
>>2265>what are we speaking about ?It's a *chan thing, threads stop being bumped to the top of the thread list after a certain number of posts, at which point threads are either abandoned or remade.
No.2268
Just for info BoneyM
Someone posted a private message in ULMF about things that doesn't work properly in the vanilla game.
A great wall of china of text with lot of coding stuff, I invited him to come talk about it here. I'll copy/paste if he doesn't, because I suspect you being interested in this.
No.2270
>>2268Said private message and a corresponding answer full of coding stuff I don't understand
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=25690&page=40 No.2271
>>2267>>2270Going to make a new thread in a sec and post up relevant links is this ok with you guys?
No.2274
>>2271Ok
There's something I have to do apart finding the new thread ?
No.2279
No.2282
I done code for Gift > Others > Boots , Spiked Collar . Too lazy to up it pastbin so i posted here , hope it helpfull .
–menu_form
!main menu - Slave activities - Reward - Make a gift - Others
IF menu_form = 1548:
IF sparks => 20:
$text_display += {<br><div id="under">Boots (20 sparks)<br><div id = "clear"><a href = 'EXEC: interaction = 15481 & gt "interaction"'><img src = "content\pic\clear.gif"></a></div></div>}
else
$text_display += {<br><div id="under_gray">Boots (20 sparks)<br></div>}
END
IF sparks => 10:
$text_display += {<br><div id="under">Spiked collar (10 sparks)<br><div id = "clear"><a href = 'EXEC: interaction = 15482 & gt "interaction"'><img src = "content\pic\clear.gif"></a></div></div>}
else
$text_display += {<br><div id="under_gray">Spiked collar (10 sparks)<br></div>}
END
$text_display += {<br><div id="under">Back <br><div id = "clear"><a href = 'EXEC: menu_form = 154 & gt "menu_form"'><img src = "content\pic\clear.gif"></a></div></div>}
$text_display += {<br><div id="under">Cancel <br><div id = "clear"><a href = 'EXEC: menu_form = 0 & gt "menu_form"'><img src = "content\pic\clear.gif"></a></div></div>}
END
–interaction
IF interaction = 15481:
$interaction_type = 'present'
$item_id = 'high_boots'
prise_level = 3
prise_potence = 3
if slave["passion_luxury_revealed"] = 0: slave["passion_luxury_revealed"] = 1
slave['gift_promised'] = 0
$special_part = {
slave_inventory['high_boots'] += 1
$new_item = 'high_boots'
dynamic $slot_31_change
}
END
IF interaction = 15482:
$interaction_type = 'present'
$item_id = 'spiked_collar'
prise_level = 3
prise_potence = 3
if slave["passion_luxury_revealed"] = 0: slave["passion_luxury_revealed"] = 1
slave['gift_promised'] = 0
$special_part = {
slave_inventory['spiked_collar'] += 1
$new_item = 'spiked_collar'
dynamic $slot_27_change
}
END
No.2769
I cant figure out how to save, or how load a saved game. Help?
No.3266
No.3268
How do I raise a fiend? I've captured it and kept it in the pen for a long-ass time, but it doesn't seem to grow. My assistant has an S+ rank in fiend mating, so I doubt it's that. What do?
No.3544
>>3268it'll grow on it's own
No.3546
>>2267Just reading up on your mod on the wiki, that's some good stuff, love the barn thing. Sucks that the saves are uncompatable but whatever, thanks for making the mod.
No.3664
>>3544But I've been waiting for fucking ages. It usually just dies eventually.
No.3678
hey guys i'v activated some of the inactive action codes in game
though it might not be perfect but hey one step at a time ^^
also if anyone see's the codes needs more tweaking or adjustments feel free to do so and share.
https://mega.co.nz/#!aIZCmLSR!ybPSJ0hE_RlptduTjeOHJnoU1mqtj1fPH7LEATQpWh8i also activated arachnid (spider sex) and polypus (some sort of worm i guess ?) and they kinda work fine except for the part that when i add them to list of skills to learn in the Xenophily they don't level up, the name stays red as if the slave doesn't know anything about this sort of activity but when i make the action happen the box bar gives me different result of what suppose to be the skill level of the slave for the example:
$horsesex_lesson_description[0] = 'Horse - a beautiful animal, and therefore it''s psychologically easier for woman to mate with him than with other types of livestock. However, there are the size problem. You take slave to the barnyard and order to caress studhorse with hands.'
$horsesex_lesson_description[1] = 'Real sex with such a large animal requires special training, so you decide to limit the exercise to oral stimulation for now. <<$slave_name>> should to milk a horse cock, using her hands and mouth.'
$horsesex_lesson_description[2] = 'Paying a fair time to safety rules, you begin the practical training to satisfy the stallion. While the horse is restricted in its movements, <<$slave_name>> should move its end into herself, but her task is to take it inside as deep as possible.'
$horsesex_lesson_description[3] = 'Using previously studied technique direction with hands, <<$slave_name>> should take a horse cock in her ass for a decent depth. Although the stallion is not moving, the task still is not easy, but the show promises to be exciting.'
$horsesex_lesson_description[4] = 'Real sex with a stallion requires a fair amount of physical training, but you believe that <<$slave_name>> is ready for such activities. Using a special rack, your slave should allow the stallion to make its own movements, as with real mare.'
$horsesex_lesson_description[5] = 'This message is not supposed to be seen. Damn bugs.'
these types of messages should change depending on the skill level of the slave but for me it change without showing the actual skill changes though it's included in this text file will include it asap when i get some free time
im actually doing a UI overhaul for the game icons and inferface