/hgg/ - Hentai Games General

Do you actually have an artist? Or are you posting MGE images because you plan on stealing their work?

How many are on your team? What roles are they filling?

Do you actually have a prototype?

Maybe some early concept art you could show us?

Regarding gameplay, could you elaborate? Maybe tell us some games it's comparable too.

What engine are you using? (Or what language and libraries)

Will it have VA?

Also what are you planning in regards to erotic content?

In anycase, assuming you're serious (Not stealing art, have actual experience developing a game, have formed a suitable team (There are far too many idiots who say "I'm going to make a game", but of coarse they never do because they have neither the knowledge nor skills and the few that actually do rarely actually finish the project)) then I look forward to it. The more Monster Girls games out there the better.

>>9924

there's nothing wrong with "stealing" art if the game is free

>>9939

Yes the game will be free.

One of the members of our team worked for Kenkou Cross to translate the monster girls encyclopedia into English. His name is credited.

>Do you actually have an artist?

Yes I do, same guy, but we will not be doing much in the way of art because this game dev project is just for fun.

>How many are on your team?

2 Graphics artists

3 Writers

2 Game Architects

1 Game Manager

and Myself

>Do you actually have a prototype?

Yes. I will post more and link it as I process the monster-girl images.

>Maybe some early concept art you could show us?

I do the work as needed, all of my "concept art" is story-boarded in a spiral notebook.

>What engine are you using?

Game Maker Studio (The one you have to pay for.)

>Will it have VA?

VA?

>Also what are you planning in regards to erotic content?

Similar to a story driven format with random events. (Think Corruption of Champions.) One of our game architects will be doing more of the writing because of his "experience" with eroticism.

>In anycase, assuming you're serious.

I was on the programming team for stepmainia. I don't just mean songfiles.

>>9914

>RPG-essque, resource management, monster breeder.

that reads kind of vague, and sounds like you're spreading the game out thin. is there another game the game play is comparable to? also why GMS? on the surface it doesn't seem like the right engine for a text based game.

>>9942

>why GMS?

Because I can export it to any operating system or web browser by clicking 1 button.

>that reads kind of vague, and sounds like you're spreading the game out thin

> is there another game the game play is comparable to?

I thought that was a very specific genre.

Think tamagachi, except you are managing monster girls and breeding the like pokemon. The game will also have RPG elements without itself being an RPG. (Like pokemon.)

>>9943

>I thought that was a very specific genre.

I mean you have two genres listed that don't usually go together so I can't get a picture of what the game would look like in my head. is it going to be more of a resource management game like princess maker with lots of menus and charts, or is it going to be more like pokemon where you can roam around a map and manage your inventor through drop down menus?

>Because I can export it to any operating system or web browser by clicking 1 button.

what other system would you want to export to? and that shouldn't be the primary reason, unity has that same functionality but it's free.

>>9945

I would like if it supported Linux but don't you have to pay extra for Linux support with that engine?

>>9941

>VA

Voice acting, obviously

>not much in the way of art

>in an H-game

>>9941

Apologies, by VA I meant Voice Acting. I thought it was a fairly common acronym in communities for those that consume Japanese media.

I'm I agree with >>9945

GMS is not a good choice of engine, but if that's what you and you're teams most comfortable with it can't be helped.

>not be doing much in the way of art

That's a shame, the main reason people play erotic games is the art and erotic content. Maybe you're better of just making a safe for work game.

Also I forgot to ask in my first post, but Do you perhaps have a devblog (Wordpress, tumblr etc) that those who are interested can follow? Or do you intend to keep this thread up to date?

>>9939

No, it's never acceptable outside of being used as a temporary placeholder for in-house builds (Something the public will never see). Even then it's a bad idea over using your own crude place holders, as they assets may not meet your games technical specifications (image resolution etc).

The bigger issue is people using stolen art for everything, which results in; potentially mixed artstyle (assuming multiple sources were used (See those shitty old erotic flash games that literally have images taken from google images)), public criticism (thus loss of popularity and reputation, any traffic the game gets will be negative), potential DCMA (assuming it actually get's popular), images that don't actually suit the game (setting/characters doesn't match, resolution is wrong etc), and a mountain of other issues.

>>9939

Another kid who's never heard of copyright before?

>>9950

Yep, and it will have a Linux, iOS, and Android version in addition to the usual.

>>9951

It actually wasn't obvious that it was Voice Acting.

>>9954

Why is GMS not a good choice of engine?

>That's a shame, the main reason people play erotic games is the art and erotic content. Maybe you're better of just making a safe for work game.

There are plenty of entertaining erotic games that don't have much in the way of art.

>do you intend to keep this thread up to date?

I may make an entry on gamejolt shortly, but only after the concept is up.

>No, it's never acceptable outside of being used as a temporary placeholder for in-house builds (Something the public will never see). Even then it's a bad idea over using your own crude place holders, as they assets may not meet your games technical specifications (image resolution etc).

Indeed, I am doing alot of photo processing of Kenkou Cross' images.

>The bigger issue is people using stolen art for everything, which results in; potentially mixed artstyle

I do have permission to use the artwork from MGE, and some "proprietary" images and layouts from the MGE book itself. Again, we have been in contact with K.Cross already.

>>9957

You are right in the since that I cannot use a lion king image to make a "lion land" game, however if I used the images in the creation of a FREE, Lion King labelled game. As long as I did nothing to damage the reputation of Disney, I could use it under fair use. If only just outside of copyright legality.

>>9958

Yep the mechanics will work with one dominant breeding species giving traits to another race, through regular alleles; genetically.

>>9961

Nice. If needed I will help test it out on my pc using Linux and my phone using Android.

>>9961

>Why is GMS not a good choice of engine?

different engines are good at different things, but I'm still unclear on what your game looks like so it's hard to say what's best for you. I haven't used it myself but GMS churns out platformer and action games almost exclusively; I've read that how the language and logic is structured make it difficult to use it for anything more complicated.

>>9967

I can mimic operating systems with game maker lite.

>>9961

>You are right in the since that I cannot use a lion king image to make a "lion land" game, however if I used the images in the creation of a FREE, Lion King labelled game. As long as I did nothing to damage the reputation of Disney, I could use it under fair use. If only just outside of copyright legality.

Another kid who's never heard of fair use before?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Fair use is aimed at meta-level stuff regarding a copyright work, such as "commentary, search engines, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, teaching, library archiving and scholarship". This lets you include some Lion King art in your news article, review, or history lesson, etc. No doubt the game you're making does not fall in this category, but even if it did, being FREE isn't a free pass: "the noncommercial purpose of a use makes it more likely to be found a fair use, but it does not make it a fair use automatically".

I'm rather surprised you have a team of nearly 10 people in this business and came to the conclusion that you can infringe copyright just because you're not making money. Is piracy ok when you don't make money? Being non-commercial only matters when a copyright holder chooses to grant permission based whether your use is commercial or not, e.g. Creative Commons Non-Commercial licenses. Think of it this way, if being non-commercial equaled fair use, there wouldn't be a need for non-commercial licenses to exist.

It's funny that you chose to mention Disney, the most infamous company when it comes to copyright.

http://artlawjournal.com/mickey-mouse-keeps-changing-copyright-law/

>>9988

"Monster maker is a fan based parody. Monster Girls, Monster Girls Encyclopedia, and Vanity are all copyrights of Kenkou Cross, and have been modified under Creative Commons with expressed written permission of the author."

And I quote:

>I do have permission to use the artwork from MGE, and some "proprietary" images and layouts from the MGE book itself. Again, we have been in contact with K.Cross already.

>One of the members of our team worked for Kenkou Cross to translate the monster girls encyclopedia into English. His name is credited.

On fair use.

>The fourth factor measures the effect that the allegedly infringing use has had on the copyright owner's ability to exploit his or her original work. The court not only investigates whether the defendant's specific use of the work has significantly harmed the copyright owner's market, but also whether such uses in general, if widespread, would harm the potential market of the original. The burden of proof here rests on the copyright owner, who must demonstrate the impact of the infringement on commercial use of the work.

I am doing nothing to exploit KC's work, because I earn nothing from the game.

>>9988

>Another kid who thinks they know what fair use covers.

>>10001

>I am doing nothing to exploit KC's work, because I earn nothing from the game.

Read the quoted paragraph more carefully. What matters is the *copyright owner's* ability to exploit his work. Also: "exploit" is a technical term without any negative connotations.

Releasing someone's stuff for free won't gain you any profit, but he could lose sales as a result of your actions. He would therefore be justified in asking you to cease & desist your infringement.

In this case it's entirely moot since you obtained permission – kudos for doing so, by the way!

Anon9988's general point is correct, though: gratis does not automatically absolve us of our liability for copyright violations.

>>10001

I'm just addressing the "it's not stealing if my game is free" issue. If you have permission to use something, that's a different story.

>I am doing nothing to exploit KC's work, because I earn nothing from the game.

I'd say there are other ways in which you benefit, but it's not my legal battle to fight. Critcally, you are missing that fact that all four factors, and then some, are considered. You can't just meet one to call it fair use.

>>9976

yeah, and you can program pacman into an excel spread sheet, but the point of using an engine is to make your life easier. if you're not going to use the best tool for the job you're just wasting your own time.

Give me the download NOW!