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b444c0 No.87[Reply]

Not all new art is modern, but all modern art is new.

This is why restricting modern art to a single thread is advisable.



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4552fc No.1[Reply]

Please familiarise yourself with the rules & manifesto

http://8ch.net/highculture/rules.html

http://8ch.net/highculture/manifesto.html

The Death of Socrates, by Jacques-Louis David (1787)

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034386 No.2[Reply]

Please confine posting of modern art & music to this thread

Impressionist art is exempted from this category.

Not sure if an item is modern or not? If it was made after 1940, it probably is.

Still not sure? Put it here.

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8f41cf No.57

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>>55

>she introduces the idea that art doesnt have to be beautiful

I wish more people had that mentality.

I will try to read it as soon as I can, thanks for sharing.

>>56

You might like this little collection then.


b6f41b No.96

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Don't crucify me.

I am of the mind that sculpture goes to the dogs after Rodin; poetry after Pound; music after Stravinsky; and painting after Annigoni.

You do get today imbeciles like the classical realists. But a quick comparison with their attempts and the attempts of say Degas or Ingres shows their incompetence. The art of painting is for the most part lost.

You get also sometimes a Lennart Anderson, but he is only one.

>>54

P.S. I don't consider installation art to be art in the same way that poetry, music, sculpture etc. are arts. I think this because all of the aforementioned work directly with the materials themselves (a sculptor with marble, a painter with paint, a musician with sound etc.), and their art is a result of their manipulation of them. The sculptor looks at the relationship between light and form, the painter between shape and line. The installation artist has no medium per se, and thus there are no aesthetic qualities (form and light, for example) to manipulate and which are unique to his "discipline". His "art" consists in the ordering of objects within a space to get some sort of intellectual or emotional response from the viewer. You can appreciate individual ASPECTS of the art (such as the composition of some or other object within) but in such case you are only appreciating the sculpture, say, within the installation. But because the focus of the work is never on objects individually, you never get what is good in the respective media which are used. The result is generally mediocrity. I think two of the best pieces of "installation art" are the Trevi Fountain in Rome and the arrangement of sculptures in Piazza Della Signoria in Florence. Most modern examples are simply bad sculpture, bad music, bad painting etc.


b71f42 No.97

>>96

>The installation artist has no medium per se

Movement


251669 No.99

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ffdd4e No.101

>>99

a bit shit




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32527f No.12[Reply]

The old times were so pathetic. The average person was uncultured, lacked vision, idealism and imagination and were a cowardly jealous evil bunch of degenerates which burned poor old women in hats for having more wits than them.

1900-2000 was a fresh of breath air. Finally something that looks like a civilized era. You can finally go outside without the risk of being mugged by thieves.

All we need to do is get rid of India, Africa and Iraq. Maybe Brazilia and China too.

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010ce8 No.38

OP just rekt your shit, faggots. Get lost with your shitty ass board.


976226 No.41

/his/torian here

The middles ages, loosely speaking, encompass the history of the old world from 476 to around 1500. I think It might do merit to your argument to specify a particular culture and epoch rather than use the term "medieval" so loosely

And judging by the connotative meaning of the term medieval, I would assume he's talking about western/Catholic Europe circa 1000-1500


24549d No.51

>>38

>Hurr durr dem middles ages was poopy time

Get lost fag, European peasants in the Middle Ages had a better life than the vast majority of third world fucks today. See: 3rd world slums.


07b03c No.95

>>12

Antiquity > Modern


d5b6c2 No.98

>>12

>ridding of countries

>civilized

all times have their issues. if you want to talk about how civilized the actions of the states during the 20th century were in south america, and further on what happened between Bolivia and Paraguay later in those years, I'm all for it because it sure as fuck doesn't represent being civilized.

>lacked vision and idealism

>implying average people today are cultured

why am i even answering this?




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7916db No.28[Reply]

What is beauty?

Are the arts an attempt to emulate religion?

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282fc8 No.63

There are also studies showing objective beauty IS a thing.

(I'll try to find the link, if you have it share it)


282fc8 No.64

>>46

>Even in a can of literal shit.

I don't think it's beauty, it's just interest, which is really different.

I think it's interesting to base ourselves on the idea of human beauty, because it's the same for everyone, and from it might derive all other forms of beauty.


d9e88d No.69

>This board is predominantly for the purposes of posting & discussing classical music, paintings, sculpture, &c. High culture from other civilizations are welcome. Visual content must be in keeping with this theme; this includes embeded links.

And I was banned for posting the classics of this time.

y

this board is already super slow, if you didnt like it you could have just told me so.


08a987 No.91

If you really want to talk about beauty, and where is beauty, we first have to define it,and that is no easy task.

In the middle ages, only God was truly beautiful; with the Renaissance, that idea still persisted, but the artisan's craft was thought has a paralel to God's creation. Then, beauty was found in the forms and nature.

In the Romantism, beauty started being associated with de divine, but not God - it's Kant's Idealism at play, where one's aim is to reach the Ideas.

From there, through Schopenhauer and Nietzsxchse's aesthetic theories, art gradually became more and more about ideas (even if Nietzsche's thinking called for quite the opposite). Add in Greenberg and Adorno, and the idea of beauty is not even relevant.

It does make some sense, though, and that is why Scruton's movie annoys me so much: different ages require different images. You don't build houses, don't read, don't think or even talk the way people did a hundred years ago. To think that the culture or ideals of that time should fit ours seems to me simply absurd.


4d5671 No.94

>>62

This, high culture, the transcendent and the symbolism of religion are inseparable.




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305f22 No.92[Reply]

if you see any threads on /b/, /pol/ or /mu/ or /art/

post 'em

>>>/pol/2228268

>>>/pol/2244773

305f22 No.93




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4124b2 No.7[Reply]

Dance of the Knights must come first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ

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48716a No.68

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cbb50f No.73

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>>23

I have that symphony on vinyl. I bought it for 50 cents at a flea market when I had no idea who Shostakovich was. Now hes my favorite composer.

>>40

I liked the opening. Openings for symphonies dont get much better than that.

Symphony 8 is my favorite though. Its terrifying and I love scary, tense orchestral pieces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52pn_d2bE3A


cbb50f No.74

>>7

Has anyone heard of George Antheil? Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR9Qg7YVHaU


bd6e80 No.88

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4124b2 No.89

>>88

Great find; there was a BBC series on the English Renaissance and they played that.




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8b7ba9 No.65[Reply]

My only talent is art. But what I idealize as a contribution to society is science. Engineering, mathematics, etc. I know there must be some value in art itself, but I can't figure out what. The crux of its relevance. We're surrounded in so much meaningless 'art'. The definition of art has become so broad to become meaningless itself. You do something, it makes someone feel something, and it's art. Shitting on their shoe is art. I hate this conception of art. I feel it's like there was something pure and amazing and worthwhile in the core essence of it, but it's so overgrown by cancerous tumors that I can't even see the diamond at its center.

How do I find an artistic pursuit that lets me feel I've made the world better, rather than simply having vomited into an ever-expanding pool of distractions that serve no purpose?

File the exact opposite of what I'm talking about, but still funny.

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e50411 No.66

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Your creations should expand the experience of reality.

Science has given us the ability to manipulate the world around us, and in turn, expanded what is possible within human experience.

>Shitting on their shoe is art.

If your definition of art includes that, then I suppose so.

You should think about the effect of a specific piece of art instead of thinking about what is and what is not art, or what should be considered art.

>How do I find an artistic pursuit that lets me feel I've made the world better, rather than simply having vomited into an ever-expanding pool of distractions that serve no purpose?

Think about how you can create art that speaks of things beyond you. Think about how you can create art that transcends the here and now. Think about how you can create art that adds a spiritual dimension to an otherwise animal existence.


9185b5 No.67

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>>65

Roger Scruton on the function of beauty https://vimeo.com/112655231

You will find that in man there is the material. The sciences, the trades, the productions, the growths, the conquering of challenge and the expansion of great civilisation. Yet, there is a more transcendental heart of man that fuels all this. The substance of existence; the beauty of life. If you are to contribute to mankind with your art, you must depict beauty in its truest forms, to elucidate the highest observable truths without effort through your medium, and to carve the path for lesser men to escape their mortal lives for the fleeting moment that true beauty in art provides and witness the infinite.

You will find that much of what timeless beauty evokes is similar to the teachings of many religions. This is because beauty in and of its own essence is but one hand of the transcendental. Coincidentally, religion, spirituality, and esotericism all seek to reveal via practice and doctrine the same higher truths to mankind so that we might gain ourselves into their halls. Imagine it like this: the love of wisdom is the door into the house of light through which we can enter, and the love of art is the window through which we would first see and come to observe it.


6dad9f No.70

>>67

Scruton is so based

When that modern artist is rambling about how anything can be art as it's representing something and Scruton gives him a wry looks and says "Like a can of shit?"

Oh my that had me laughing.


532385 No.79

>information

this covers, emotions,feelings,ideas,etc.

thats all you need.


7d9307 No.86

>>79

What post is this in reference to?




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a2f5f6 No.75[Reply]

The medium of the coin is limited as it is but a small relief upon a disc of metal, yet the ancients made them beautiful.

011e2c No.77

i thought that owl was a penis


167d24 No.80

I still think modern coins are beautiful, to the point I still collect my countrys currency.

It might not be as detailed or as textured as before, but just by its historical weight, its fantastic.

>>77

cluck


167d24 No.81

>>80

didnt knew there was a cluck in here.


167d24 No.82

>>81

dafuq?

a wor-d fil-ter

why?


a2f5f6 No.85

>>82

Such aberrations of the English language are discouraged on this board, and rightfully so.

Consult rule 3:

http://8ch.net/highculture/rules.html




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4d84c5 No.4[Reply]

Two statues:

Zeus (Roman, 1st century CE) - Hermitage

Athena (Austrian, 19th century CE) - Austrian Parliament Building

3c7fce No.15

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Wotan Denkmal, Hannover


24f5ad No.37

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The Sleeping Hermaphroditus is an ancient marble sculpture depicting Hermaphroditus life size, reclining on a mattress sculpted by the Italian artist Gian Lorenzo Bernini in 1620. The form is partly derived from ancient portrayals of Venus and other female nudes, and partly from contemporaneous feminised Hellenistic portrayals of Dionysus/Bacchus. It represents a subject that was much repeated in Hellenistic times and in ancient Rome, to judge from the number of versions that have survived. Discovered at Santa Maria della Vittoria, Rome, the Sleeping Hermaphroditus was immediately claimed by Cardinal Scipione Borghese and became part of the Borghese Collection. The "Borghese Hermaphroditus" was later sold to the occupying French and was moved to The Louvre, where it is on display today.

The Sleeping Hermaphroditus has been described as a good early Imperial Roman copy of a bronze original by the later of the two Hellenistic sculptors named Polycles (working ca 155 BC);[1] the original bronze was mentioned in Pliny's Natural History.[2]


1bf84f No.59

>>37

That work on the chaise lounge is brilliant,


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Undine Rising from the Waters, ca. 1880–1882, by Chauncey Bradley Ives (1810–1894)


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Dancing Celestial India (Uttar Pradesh), early 12th century




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278b9f No.76[Reply]

Keep in mind that any topic, not just that of fine art, may be discussed here. The rules, save for the global rule, only govern visual content.

That being said, I hate television. My parents' house has more televisions than permanent residents, so it follows that more stupidity flows in to the house than can flow out. No wonder they are dimwits.

Attached - Qian Xuan - Wang Xizhi Watching Geese

516576 No.78

Here's nice point about watching television and celebrity gossip (vs reading books for example). Found it interesting,

https://youtu.be/6Jd7tJd9E7k?t=357




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2268dd No.3[Reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVo6YUlwfeA

A must see for any Bach appreciators and men in general. This particular recording by Richter is pure genius.

Enjoy.

394ccb No.5

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I am very fond of baroque myself.

It is odd that I do not know the name to my favourite piece of Bach. It is the first one played in this complication:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FdNlhZAYBE

Does anyone know the name?


170ec6 No.31

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I concede that Bach was the greatest composer, with in my opinion Handel as a close second. However I must say that I prefer the Romantic era to Baroque.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE7ckOTULGk




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2bdead No.25[Reply]

Board Theme

I'm sorry there's really not much to say besides "hey, this is the new board theme song."

5b8f90 No.27

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The posters of this board should deliberate upon a board theme song, and even then, we do not yet have enough posters. A theme song shall be decided upon in due course.


7cbdad No.43

>>27

It might be difficult to advertise this place without attracting a large number shiposters. I founded a link on a random /b/ thread- and I generally don't visit /b/ that often.

I would be further inclined to think the theme song should be something along the lines of classical or romanticism, judging by what I've seen so far


5e2dfa No.100

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BWV 1042 - I Allegro




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