/his/ - History

http://thememorypalace.us/

not so much an in-depth history podcast, but rather some quirky tales from around 19th century to 20th, just how people lived and interesting stories about interesting people

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>>36154

>rongorongo

>african

>>36208

In my defense, OP asked

>Has there ever been a non-Arab African civilization with writing on par with Phoenician or ancient Chinese writing

Doesn't specify it have to be from Africa.

You could say Tifnagh but that pretty much comes from Phoenician.

>>36212

>a non-Arab African civilisation

???

How exactly were crusader States governed, and how did thy choose their next leader?

Any other resources on crusader states would be appreciated.

How come Western Europeans had such a bad relationship with Byzantines?

>>36187

Schism

>>36187

Seeing themselves as the rightful heirs to the Roman Empire (or rather, actually just as the Roman Empire continued), it didn't sit to well with the Byzantines that some barbarians who fucked up Rome just a few centuries ago suddenly claimed its legacy (and the papacy) for themselves, despite of the fact that their ancestors were one of the reason Rome fell in the first place.

>>36199

>Not these days, which is how the first part of my post happened.

Oh boy, have you had a look at Eastern Europe and the Balkans any time recently? How about Spain and Italy? Or Britain with Tax Fraud by MPs? You're deluded, mate.

>>36178

Yeah, and it's gotten really annoying lately. /pol/ has become to /his/ what the Jews are to /pol/, that is to say a boogeyman. The difference is at least /pol/'s paranoia is funny to watch, whereas /his/ just comes across as having a giant stick shoved up it's collective ass.

>>36200

You misunderstand. I'm saying these days it's corrupt, which is how it got flooded with third worlders and other problems which then lead to most of them no longer doing well and increasing their crime rates.

>>36206

Or more to the point it's gotten much more corrupt, which didn't use to be the case.

>>36202

Yeah, it's a bit annoying really, any retarded or dissident opinion is a "/pol/" opinion, which is a bit silly. It is a minority though.

>>36206

Tell me more about how countries being corrupt has led to mass migration, that is a very… different opinion. Also, if you admit that European countries are corrupt and are not doing well economically then the point that European and Anglosphere countries are superior is irrelevant.

>>36167

It would have dissolved shortly after most likely anyway.

>>36167

You can't really go into this alternate history because the Ottoman Empire had been collapsing for over a century, there was very little way for it to stay stable.

>>36175

>>36168

But then at least the lands wouldnt be in control of Britain, which together with the US has done great contributions to the ME's instability and zealotry

>>36177

Instead you would have some further decades under a regim that had already been collapsing in upon itself for a good while. Cue different warlords taking control of the territory, and you more or less inevitably end up with the ME being just as fucked up as it is today, or the British taking over after which the ME also becomes just as fucked up as it is today.

>Were Germanic languages very similar to each other?

Well duh ya dummy, they're in the same family. They all come from Proto-Germanic but diverged pretty fast into Proto-Norse, Proto-Northwest Germanic and so on. Also some of them have different influences, such as Old English from Celtic.

>>36189

Then, could a person from Vandal kingsom conversate with Suebian man?

>>36191

Vandal language was East Germanic, like Gothic. Attested Gothic language is already quite different from early forms of surviving Germanic branches. Suebian language was most likely of Irminonic branch of West Germanic, from which modern High German dialects (Alemannic and Bavarian) derive.

I'd say at the point of migrations, they have diverged by about as much as Slavic languages have (which started diverging from Proto-Slavic around 8th century) — at least by looking at what linguistic evidence we have and also rough timeframe of language evolution. Which would mean different branches would have difficulties understanding each other at first, but there's no need to properly learn each other's language in order to communicate

>>36197

Just want to butt in a bit, this is pretty much all speculation though, right?

>>36198

We have written accounts of Gothic language from 4th century onwards. There are also sporadic written accounts of Western and Northern Germanic languages in Runic alphabet from 2nd century onwards. Procopius, in 6th century, mentions that Vandals and Goths are related (and also puts Gepids and Visi(goths) in the same basket, but not other Germanic peoples).

Pliny specifically puts Suebi into the Irminonic tribes, which are also identified as a group by Tacitus and Pomponius. Area inhabited by Irminonic tribes underwent the High German consonant shift before 6th century, which can be seen from the change in spelling in inscriptions compared to other West Germanic dialects.

Germanic languages show common Celtic loanwords, some of those related to technological inventions related to ironworking. iron itself is a Celtic loan, which implies it was introduced to Germanics by Celts. Those loans can be identified because they didn't undergo the regular sound shifts from Proto-Indo-European to Proto-Germanic, but later underwent the same sound shifts as Germanic words when the language developed further, diverging on the way. This puts a constraint on when Germanic languages diverged, it should be around the time of Hallstatt culture, and certainly not before the time of Urnfield culture, because that's when iron was first sporadically used in northern Europe. This means a common Germanic language must have been spoken as late as 800BC and likely even later (most sources give around 500BC for time of such linguistic contact).

Slavic languages, meanwhile, had a common linguistic development with regular sound changes in pre-Slavic place names until around the time of Charlemagne. The time period of development of Slavic languages until present is therefore similar to the time period of development of Germanic languages by the point of migrations. Of course, languages don't all change equally fast, most notably the rapid development seen in English (along with hybridization of vocabulary with French). But when there's no big external factors involved, and when there's no geographical isolation, we can assume language evolution hapPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>36148

>confusing the battle of Antioch with the siege of Jerusalem

>.scroll

>.papyrus

>general nonsense

3/10

>>36160

Yeah. I should just accept I'm bad at greentext stories.

>>33528

it's pretty bad

>>36147

You monster.

>>35916

and the british claimed their origin from israelites for a while

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

>>35922

The idea with the flood myth imho isn't far-fetched, doubly so when so many cultures in the Medittereanean and the Middle East have relatively similar stories regarding it.

To this end, I could imagine that "Atlantis" is a highly idealized idea of life and the world before the thawing glaciers and pole caps flooded several large areas around the Earth.

>>35826

That's Mu, people confuse with Lemuria "Eastern Atlantis"

Likewise near Cuba coasts you can find something

Lemuria itself was inventes as an evolutionist theory continent linking Lemures appearing in Africa and Indian sub-continent, that is before we knew of tectonic places

Atlantis was a made up city.

The only Greek colony west of was Tartessos.

Atlantis was a synonym for tyranny and opression while Athens was a symbol of freedom and democracy.

Like all Greek stories, take it with a grain of salt.

What's the matter gramps, can't read the spiritus asper?

>>36146

Okay, I'm preparing for a shit storm but I you're looking for something that is entertaining while also giving some sort of historical context, Bernard Cornwell's novels are amazing.

>>36151

The Saxon Stories, right? I can work with that, but I was also hoping for just straight up informative books as well. Either way, thanks for pointing me in literally any kind of helpful direction, anon.

>>36153

>but I was also hoping for just straight up informative books as well

Dr Barbara Yorke-Kings and Kingdoms of Early Anglo-Saxon England

Lapidge, John Blair, Simon Keynes, Donald Scragg-The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Anglo-Saxon England

EsmondebCleary-The Ending of Roman Britain

Stuart Laycock-Britannia_ The Failed State_ Ethnic Conflict and the End of Roman Britain

Stuart Laycock-Warlords_ The Struggle for Power in Post-Roman Britain

You can get them all from lib.gen.rus.ec/

Also get the Osprey books if you like pretty pictures and /his/ memes

>>36136

Pakistan is a British colonial construct, just like India

>>36161

JUST

FUCK

MY

PRUSSIA

UP

>>36161

I actually tried to make that picture, but I have shitty experience with Photoshop so I decided to scrap it

>>34130

It Would be cool to wonder what happens to the Sikh empire and what a long-standing secular state would mean for the world

>>36156

>>36161

pakistan is a british colonial construct

but india isn't because it's an empire-tier title

>>31003

PTSD isn't about how gruesome the actual combat is. It has a lot more to do with whether the combatant actually feels responsible for killing the enemy. Read "On Killing" for more on this.

Consider then, the typical phalanx, where only the frontline is actually killing, with the bulk of the formation basically serving as a structural reinforcement…90% of your unit isn't actually responsible for killing, and as such, no one is getting PTSD save for those 10 guys up front, all of whom are up there because they fucking enjoy that shit.

>>36121

How about considering something which isn't the phalanx; it's very easy to say what you're saying when you look at no other type of military fighting. What about the Saxons against the Normans? The Crusaders against the Fatimids?

You should check out the book Warrior Ethos by Steven Pressfield; it's very related to this topic.

>>31011

You don't have to be in combat to get PTSD. you just need to go through some form of traumatic stress. Though I could see how people who received blast-force tbi would be more likely to get PTSD than those who suffered blunt-force tbi.

>Which means ancient warriors wouldn't get anywhere near the modern PTSD levels, as their would be purely psychological.

as opposed to the modern PTSD which is physiological(tbi) and psychological?

>>33498

Well, that has little to do with what we actually know. Pikemen were specifically trained to fight other pike squares, "wrestling" included.

Pike SQUARES are not just lines of pikemen.

>>33495

I doubt your ancestors hated their existence. What they lived through may seem harsh by toady's standards, but for them it was normal, and they probably weren't all that bothered by it. I'm sure they still found happiness in their lives, even if it was only because they didn't know how good life can be.

This may not be the best example, but I know quite a few people from war-torn countries, with very little access to medical treatment, and from what they've told me, people there view life pretty much the same way we do. They just accept the things they can't change, no matter how awful they are, and move on. I guess when hardships are common to you, they don't seem as severe as they would to someone who rarely experiences them.

Some bloke named Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

>>36138

I thought Great War was very immature, honestly, I don't understand why people rated the channel in this board

>>36138

May I also recommend C&Rsenal if you want to learn about WWI firearms.

>>36138

That just means they recommend each other videos at times, i think it was only once, that's all.