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6a815a No.30999[Reply]

I'm curious, how did ancient warrior cope with war? After the conflict was over, how did they get back into the groove of daily life? Was there an equivalent to PTSD?

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2dce62 No.36121

>>31003

PTSD isn't about how gruesome the actual combat is. It has a lot more to do with whether the combatant actually feels responsible for killing the enemy. Read "On Killing" for more on this.

Consider then, the typical phalanx, where only the frontline is actually killing, with the bulk of the formation basically serving as a structural reinforcement…90% of your unit isn't actually responsible for killing, and as such, no one is getting PTSD save for those 10 guys up front, all of whom are up there because they fucking enjoy that shit.


d3d07c No.36128

>>36121

How about considering something which isn't the phalanx; it's very easy to say what you're saying when you look at no other type of military fighting. What about the Saxons against the Normans? The Crusaders against the Fatimids?


c3a51c No.36129

You should check out the book Warrior Ethos by Steven Pressfield; it's very related to this topic.

>>31011

You don't have to be in combat to get PTSD. you just need to go through some form of traumatic stress. Though I could see how people who received blast-force tbi would be more likely to get PTSD than those who suffered blunt-force tbi.

>Which means ancient warriors wouldn't get anywhere near the modern PTSD levels, as their would be purely psychological.

as opposed to the modern PTSD which is physiological(tbi) and psychological?


0f57e4 No.36166

>>33498

Well, that has little to do with what we actually know. Pikemen were specifically trained to fight other pike squares, "wrestling" included.

Pike SQUARES are not just lines of pikemen.


7599b0 No.36170

>>33495

I doubt your ancestors hated their existence. What they lived through may seem harsh by toady's standards, but for them it was normal, and they probably weren't all that bothered by it. I'm sure they still found happiness in their lives, even if it was only because they didn't know how good life can be.

This may not be the best example, but I know quite a few people from war-torn countries, with very little access to medical treatment, and from what they've told me, people there view life pretty much the same way we do. They just accept the things they can't change, no matter how awful they are, and move on. I guess when hardships are common to you, they don't seem as severe as they would to someone who rarely experiences them.




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7bf57b No.35649[Reply]

What do you think the main causes of the war was?

What were the ramifications of the war?

Which nation do you think gained the most from the it, and which do you think lost the most?

What is your favorite battle?

Who is your favorite commander?

What is your favorite weapon and/or vehicle of the war?

What's the craziest story you have about it?

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d2efd2 No.35839

Some bloke named Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.


7bf57b No.36138

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>>35681

>the youtube channel the Great War

They're pretty good, but take what they say with a grain of salt. I'm not saying that you should disregard everything they say because they're partnered with Extra Credits, but it's enough to make them a tad suspicious.


6232d1 No.36149

>>36138

I thought Great War was very immature, honestly, I don't understand why people rated the channel in this board


20031d No.36165

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>36138

May I also recommend C&Rsenal if you want to learn about WWI firearms.


eb518c No.36169

>>36138

That just means they recommend each other videos at times, i think it was only once, that's all.




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ca203e No.33896[Reply]

What's /his/ opinion about zoroastrianism?, this religion seemed to be to resamble more the modern beliefs of today than the other religions of it's time (you could say it was more "advanced")

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ae4f33 No.36065

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Dank religion.


ea3c8c No.36068

>>36065

>not in Avestan

get that DESIGNATED shit outta here


e250ba No.36120

>>36045

>Every Christian follows Atenism without knowing.

fixed


33ad80 No.36142

>allowance of incest

>dualism

>strict-jew-esque priest system

>modern


1e647c No.36143

>>36142

>>strict-jew-esque priest system

I think jews got that from Zoroasterians




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51bf2e No.36039[Reply]

I know this only may be tangially related to /his/, but I was wondering what the general conensus here about the Voynich manuscript is.

What is an elaborate hoax, or a fake document to be sold as a curiosity for cash? Was it just supposed to be some form of art like the Codex Seraphinianus? Or do you think that the author was some late medieval crackhead or alchemist who actually wrote down various forms of knowledge in a secret language for whatever reason?

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4ec188 No.36103

>>36064

>>36069

http://stephenbax.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Voynich-a-provisional-partial-decoding-BAX.pdf

It's freely available on the author's website.Though some statements are bizarre (the guy links "Khorasani-kutki to kaur, and says Mongolian is a Turkic language - is the latter true? he's a professor in linguistics) the main argument is convincing.

But if it really is a herbarium written in a script specifically created for a natural language, isn't it weird this is the only example?


528fe8 No.36104

>>36103

>But if it really is a herbarium written in a script specifically created for a natural language, isn't it weird this is the only example?

Hmm. We have hardly any inscriptions in Gargarean script (7 archeological short inscription and a palimpsest, along with a medieval Armenian transliteration manual) too.


4ec188 No.36108

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>>36104

Breddy interesting. I wonder if there are any "lost scripts" that we know existed but of which no trace remains, and if one of them fits what we know about the Voynich MS.


528fe8 No.36117

>>36108

Early medieval sources mention a writing system used by Slavs prior to Christianization, and there's also an etymological clue for this as Slavic languages have a common word for writing, despite having diverged prior to introduction of preserved writing systems.


028d0d No.36139

>>36117

Interesting, but it wouldn't really make sense here seeing how the Voynich Manuscript has been dated to ~16th century (at least if I remember correctly).




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7d4f30 No.35155[Reply]

History memes.

Lets get a collection of history memes together.

Most of what I have is German related. Feel free to post what you have.

Gratsi

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fd6eac No.36017

>>35981

no, he means the poo in the loo pajeet one


8430c6 No.36026

>>36017

I think he was referring to the guy's second question.


13461d No.36047

>>36026

fuck you're right


8430c6 No.36132

File: 1458337461136.png (455.76 KB, 680x1203, 680:1203, trollexploitable2.png)

:^)


d2a255 No.36135

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>>36132

Hahahahaha




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7ea6e2 No.15125[Reply]

Could Stalin, Hitler and the Japs have beaten the Allies and Mussolini?

>inb4 Musso was so shit the allies would lose cause he smelled bad
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158fba No.36124

>>29595

>Given the situation in the rest of Europe a pragmatic man (Stalin) would not have invaded the USSR in 1941

I disagree with that. From Hitler's (or even most people's) perspective war between the Soviet Union and Germany was inevitable. Communist agitation had been happening throughout Europe for years (and whether the USSR was in practice communist is irrelevant, as they declared themselves to be communist; add in other reasons discussed above), and Stalin had done a massive land-grab with little justification in Finland, the Baltics, and elsewhere. From the perspective of Germany I don't doubt that they saw war as totally unavoidable, making a pre-emptive strike the strategically sensible move. Add in the fact that the Red Army had been vastly weakened but was slowly recovering to the point of eclipsing the Wehrmacht and invasion in 1941 seems pretty sensible for me. It was a gamble of the most risky kind, to be sure, but it was a gamble the Germans were more or less forced into taking.

I think there's also some merit to the belief that it wasn't starting a two-front war from the point of the Germans. By 1941 the Germans had no enemies on the continent and were not actively fighting anyone attempting to invade them. The only open front was North Africa, and I'm sure the Germans had assumed that Italy was capable enough to manage that front on their own with minimal German aid.


158fba No.36125

>>29624

>>>/leftypol/

This ain't the board for that shit.


158fba No.36126

>>29640

If Hitler had waited until 1942 the Red Army would probably have both eclipsed the Wehrmacht and been staffed with competent officers sooner, making defeat for the Germans before 1945 more or less inevitable.

>>29695

>>29766

Maybe Canaris wasn't as much of a traitor then. But treason rests in the intentions, not the results.

>>29760

>If you can persuade the Japs to hold off on Pearl Harbour

Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.

>>29790

>delaying invading the USSR.

To be honest I think a more effective strategy would have been finding out a way to knock them out even faster, but I'm not sure that would have been possible. I suppose it depends how reliant the USSR was on central authorities — that is, whether cutting off the head would have rendered them a non-threat. I'm not sure this would have been possible.

Certainly the USSR would have been far easier to defeat without its food, raw materials, factories, clothes, engines, fuel, etc. but knocking them out is a tall order. Given its vastness I don't think knocking out its industry is a viable tactic. A more sensible one I think would have been spurring the anti-Soviet sentiment prevalent throughout Eastern Europe. In other words, I think the only way Germany wins WWII when the USSR exists is more manpower. If they got nationalists from Eastern Europe — most especially anti-Soviets within the USSR itself, perhaps wooing the military (if that's even possible post-purge) — I think defeating them mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


719d88 No.36127

>>36126

>Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.

Very difficult to do this when we consider how different the ideologies between China and Germany was, this would have also had pissed off Japan to no end, though that might not have been a problem to be fair.

> If they got nationalists from Eastern Europe — most especially anti-Soviets within the USSR itself, perhaps wooing the military (if that's even possible post-purge) — I think defeating them may have been possible.

They did try this but they treated the Russian people like shit during the invasion so many actually fought with the USSR rather than the Nazis. Some did fight with the Nazis though.>Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.


7cfeab No.36130

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>>36124

>the Germans had assumed that Italy was capable enough to manage that front on their own with minimal German aid.

>>36126

>Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.

What could the chinese do that the japs couldn't do better?

>A more sensible one I think would have been spurring the anti-Soviet sentiment prevalent throughout Eastern Europe.

Absolutely, they could have found great allies in Ukranians

>People criticize them a lot but I think they did about as well as they possibly could have.

They could've won, i think with some tweaks things would've been very different.




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ecb9cd No.35843[Reply]

what if Babarism is the primal,pure,uncontaminated state of human nature and Civilization itself is but a snobbish ruse?

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bedccb No.36083

https://8ch.net/v/res/8666430.html

>>>/v/8666430

frazetta and bewbs


bedccb No.36084

File: 1458136301094.jpg (160.74 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, rect.jpg)

also, reminds me of a natsoc propaganda video

less about barbarism and more about tribalism

>George Lincoln Rockwell - American National Socialism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc


bea477 No.36085

>>36084

I don't especially see how this is relevant honestly. Good chuckle though.


9f3cfe No.36113

>>35843

the state of "human nature" is relative


eb2b24 No.36114




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6b8f47 No.36088[Reply]

Is Latin easy to learn? My first language is Korean btw

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8f9317 No.36095

>>36092

The grammar will fuck your shit up


b142a4 No.36097

File: 1458215986980.jpg (263.03 KB, 600x360, 5:3, party like it's 475.jpg)

Why do you want to learn Latin, OP?

Anyway, assuming you only speak Korean (that Wikipedia tells me is agglutinative) and English, those are not going to help much. Latin requires good memory, for more than a hundred desinences (rough estimate, a lot of them can be deduced though) but it won't screw you over with exceptions and such bullshit, it's a logical language.

Also >>>/lang/ would be more appropriate for this thread.


eb1fab No.36098

File: 1458218945098.jpg (224.85 KB, 1694x780, 847:390, RIP Roma.jpg)

Ita vero.

http://archives.nd.edu/words.html

This should help with translations, barbare.

You'll still need to learn the grammar and fuckton of rules. The good thing about Latin is that once you've got the rules down you're pretty much set.

Good luck mate.


eb1fab No.36099

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>>36097

Sure /lang/ is fine and he should check that out but this is /his/. Romeaboos and latinfags galore.

English actually will help *slightly* in terms of vocabulary.


b31828 No.36102

>>36088

It requires a lot of practice to learn the forms and ways in which they are used, especially when it comes to the subjunctive and the ways in which it is used. Vocabulary isn't too bad since you apparently know English.




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1af27d No.35991[Reply]

I have a friend who says the glaciar age produced the peak humans.

he says the cold,the need for hunting meat worked as extreme natural selection,therefore only strong,smart,good hunters with a drive to survive survived and left children, thus hose humans born from extreme conditions were the best possible ones.

Is that theory accurate?

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684419 No.36061

>>35991

and this is why the eskimo are the masterrace


684419 No.36062

>>36014

>>36015

actually the tallest people would be dinka, nuer or maasai — if you look at pre-industrial height, the dutch only got this tall recently due to modern diet

balkans is very divided though, montenegrins are tall as fuck while the neighbouring albanians are short


064c97 No.36079

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>35991

Conclusion is fine, but the theory isn't.


a79d06 No.36081

>>36079

>vice


1ccdba No.36086

>>36081

If you don't want to watch Vice garbage, fine.

Just go look up Wim Hof the Iceman. He has dozens of world records and climbed Mount Everest in his shorts. Those are the things you need to know, not whatever Vice inserts into it.




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5cfa01 No.33639[Reply]

This thread is dedicated to all things Rus.

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9d4b3a No.33746

>>33740

>>33719

I agree, when I wrote that I was drinking some rum with pepsi and afterwards went to watch some animu


9d4b3a No.33748

>>33746

also ID changed


c1f16e No.33774

>>33740

I like this version of choosing which of the two denomination.


8b178f No.33799

>>33740

The questions wasn't about "whiteness", but culture.


000000 No.36076

>>33640

Details are mostly irrelevant.

The salient point is that runaway Vikings and local Slavs each had what the other needed, and they were getting along fairly well most of the time.

The other salient point is that eventually there was Olga, who decided that this mucking around leads nowhere and inviting Greek preachers is the best move right now (and guessed it right).

For a long while, the rest follows from this.




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497685 No.31989[Reply]

So, from my understanding, the Roman ballista was different from earlier Greek models in that it was used against enemy soldiers rather than fortifications (i.e., used bolts instead of rocks of firebombs, and also was much smaller to accommodate its new rule as field artillery rather than a siege weapon.

Yet this makes me wonder - wouldn't such a heavy weapon be overkill against individual soldiers? I'm by no means an expert in antique artillery weapons, but even if you assume that ballista were mainly used from fixed hardpoints (i.e. from watchtowers, siege towers, or ships), I'd assume they would suffer from an agonizingly slow rate of fire that would make them impractical to use against larger enemy formations. Wouldn't it make more sense to rely on more traditional ranged weapons like pilums or the bows of auxilliary troops?

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5f7d97 No.32766

Not gonna make a new thread but does anyone have the pic of the Crossbow gun hybrid that was presented to the King of spain?

I had it on my old computer but it broke and I need it for research purposes, tried google and it's just hogwash.


000000 No.34842

>>31998

>But taking out enemy soldiers through their shields and armor- duh. An arrow or javelin couldn't do that.

Javelin could, just at a spitting range.

A stone could too. It's not as convenient to cut for lithobolos, and a catapult is not as easy to aim, thus of less use against moving targets.

And again, matter of range.

There's not only infantry, but cavalry - and chariots, too. It's a good idea to start hitting them as soon as possible, preferably with something that got better range than their bows.


1b12e7 No.36071

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Check out this fearsome engine, based on the remains found at the Roman fort of Orsova.

There's a lot of guesswork involved, obviously, also energy is stored by bundles of nylon string, instead of sinew, and its frame uses steel instead of iron, but it's still impressive.

It has a range of more than 800 meters apparently, and it shoots 0.5 kg bolts with remarkable accuracy. And it's nothing that couldn't fit on a wagon (or a pickup truck), though the original was stationary.


dcccce No.36072

>>36071

I wonder how many antique bricks were shat by soldiers who realized that the enemy was pointing one of those crossbows-on-steroids on them.


6d50d4 No.36074

>>36072

A surviving soldier isn't a good soldier, a surviving soldier is one that has seen his buddies to the left and right of him impaled by giant metal bolts.




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2e91a4 No.35770[Reply]

The Czech Legion was a 60 000 strong armed forces composed predominantly of volunteer Czechs, and a small number of Slovaks, fighting together with the Entente powers during World War I. They fought under, and were created by, the Russian state, hoping that after the war they would be awarded with statehood.

In Russia, they took part in several battles of the war, including the Zborov and Bakhmach against the Central Powers. At Zborov, 3 500 of the Czech Legion troops stormed the Austrian trenches; a rare victory in the Kerensky Summer Offensive.

After the Bolshevik Revolution they found themselves stranded in Ukraine but intended to still fight in the war, this time at the Western Front. On the third of March 1918, the Legion ordered a fighting retreat, moving away from advancing German forces ordered to kill any Czech or Slovak on sight as they were deemed traitors, and pushing deeper into Russia, fighting revolutionary forces as they went. They managed to get to the Trans-Siberian railway and commandeered dozens of carriages in order to make their way to the Pacific.

The Bolsheviks were ordered by the German state to disarm them and, when they attempted to, fierce fighting broke out sparking an all-out war against between the isolated Czech Legion and the Bolshevik forces. The Czech Legion then moved East, capturing a number of cities as they went in order to secure the line for stranded Czechs and Slovaks in Russia. Soon their cause became internationally renowned and a army of seventy-thousand Allied soldiers landed in Siberia awaiting the arrival of the Legion.

Soon the carriages were moving fortresses; they were reinforced with iron, mounted with machine guns and small pieces of artillery. Carriages were made into barracks, store-rooms, armouries, bakeries, hospitals and even a carriage was converted into a printing-press for the Czech soldiers.

They soon made common cause with the White Armies, allying with them on several occasions when fighting key battles and liberating Prisoners of War camps. It is believed that, when they were travelling to Yekaterinburg, the Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs as they knew that the Czech LPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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2e91a4 No.36052

>>36051

They fought and had been away from home for years and even followed the orders of a government, that they had not voted in, to continue fighting and only when they knew all hope was lost, that they were going to be stranded in Russia, did they secure their safe passage back to Europe. I don't understand how this is not bravery, members of the Legion who did get back safely even went to fight on the Western Front, which is pretty damn brave considering that they'd done enough. I understand that you're pissed about given away the White leaders but these guys had no chance of success and basically leeched off the power of the Legion; many Czech's were asked to help take or defend cities with the Whites as the Whites did not have the moral or man-power.


2a3c3f No.36055

>>36051

I get what you mean, but at the same time it's important to understand that at that point they were fighting a loosing battle in a foreign country's civil war and the world didn't have a lot of experience with communism then, so for them it wasn't as clear cut who's the good guys and who's the bad guys as it is for us. Backstabing is rarely honorable, but before judging someone, you should at least try to understand how they might have seen things.


2e91a4 No.36058

>>36055

This pretty much, also the White Army was a mess at this time due to several coups of leaderships in the space of only two or three years. Also, even if the Whites did miraculously win, it is unlikely that Russia would have ended up any better than it did under Stalin as many White leaders simply wanted Military Dictatorships by the end of the war.


791534 No.36070

>>36058

They'd have to be really bad to get anywhere near Joe's high score, tho. Juntas don't usually try to redefine the basis of economics and butt into private lives less than crazy marxists.


2e91a4 No.36073

>>36070

Not necessarily, say if the White armies coordinated an attack and actually took out the Reds then the Whites would have fought each other for supremacy and fuck that would have taken a long time. Considering how the majority of the empire was not looking for a military dictatorship (see Ukraine, peasants claiming land, Greens etc) it would have been difficult to get people to really rally around them if they weren't promising leftist values. Even after the war had ended and one of them managed to actually consolidate his power, you're still looking at the problems that Stalin faced concerning the peasantry and shitty economy. It's difficult to judge but they probably would have made decisions that, while not similar, would have a tremendous human cost in order to give Russia a kick start into the twentieth century.




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8481ba No.35498[Reply]

I have, and it is a brilliant piece of work by a brilliant critical thinker. The people who charge it as being the "rantings of a madman" seem to me to be people who haven't read it, and tend to be the same crowd who latch onto catchy mementos like how the Holy Roman Empire wasn't holy Roman or an empire or how stab in the back is a "myth."

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b3f3a1 No.36046

>>36044

All you need to do is look at how many points you ignored to see how you are wrong and delusional. Now yes, please leave.


7b8b4c No.36048

>>36036

Why the ban?


7f9f4c No.36054

>>36046

You seem to be a subversive element. You've never responded to me here >>35979 and I don't see why you're telling people to leave.


b3f3a1 No.36056

>>36054

I haven't responded because I've been in London this weekend and, to be honest, I feel like it's getting nowhere. One of us says "Germany threatened Britain" while the other says "Germany didn't threaten Britain" and it's just the repetition of the same points. Neither of us is going to change our minds because there's too little to know and much more to interpret. I've said all I have wanted to say and I just hope that my interpretation has influenced more people than yours, honestly.

And I told him to leave because he himself said that he was going to leave, if he left then at least that means he is true to his word rather than waiting long enough to get himself banned.


a3daf7 No.36063

>>36046

Still didn't explain anything and no one bothered to look at the pictures I posted.




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96d9b2 No.35808[Reply]

Hello, this is nodev, I'm gathering material for a concept of a slow paced rts/management game with KoDP-type diplomacy and interpersonal relations event system set in Not-Feudal Europe. I'm making this a separate thread from QTDDTT, because I expect to eventually flood the board with dozens of small questions, which will benefit from the explicit context of the project itself.

Right now the draft of it is as fallows: you play as a freshly appointed margrave (and his consequent bloodline) landing on a newly (re?)claimed realm geographically apart from the core territories of the kingdom. You are one of many as this is a large, crawling "Manifest Destiny" -esque process. The place is wild and uninhabited by any civilized people. Instead you find a handful of tribal societies of nonhumans vaguely based on not-European folklore (I'm sorry, but fantasy is too fun to not include any) and a lot wider variety of abominations with no social order whatsoever. Over the course of the early game you strike a deal with the local territorial tribe and make a purchase of a small fraction of their bountiful land (per royal decree all land you set your eyes on is your's, but the "savages" don't need to know that), you recruit some other beings (which don't have much use for territories or even civilization for that matter, since by most standards they can be considered superhuman) as muscle in return for some fancy glass beads and you pilgrim yourself from there on.

You start on a shore, right where you landed and proceed to found the initial settlement that'll serve you as the main life line with home, from which a semi-constant torrent of minor nobility's thrid-sons, outlaws, slumrats and escaped serfs will provide you with an influx of subjects. Funds and other aid will likely be sent as well. The social order you promote is good old feudalism with some alodial activity and roaming woodsmen here and there. Past the initial tent camp phase the starting settlement will have to be built in a defensive fashion. Since right now I envision the civilizational level as early-to-mid Medieval I'm thinking of a gord/motte and bailey castle town, that may or may not develop into a partially autonomous city n generations down the line. At the heart of it naturally you'll erect your own place oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

9bfe8a No.35816

>>35808

Good luck dude, i don't know much about that but i hope you found what you need, sounds interesting.

Is there any game or other media that mixes the age of exploration with fantasy? like your usual medieval setting but with exploration, exploring the rest of the world and its mithology?


96d9b2 No.35924

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3. I intend for people to be the cornerstone of industry, not buildings. Meaning a smith may move into a shack and remake it into his workshop, developing it as he gains access to more funds and imports. That way there won't be a situation, where you lack 2 units of a resource for some specialist building and therefore a whole activity is shut down for x minutes till you get them.

However this turns a staple collection of easy to replicate buildings you generally see in strategies into a complex web of interconnected professions… And I haven't the slightest idea how to map this out. Any "Medieval Jobs" book you can point me to would be very helpful. Masons, woodworkers and smiths are of particular interest for obvious reasons.

I'd also like to iron out job progressions. Think apprentice>blacksmith>brightsmith etc. Those could all function as feat trees in the units' profiles along with character traits, stats and so on.

4. Raw resources. Playing other games I conclude that making stone etc. finite is both absurd and infuriating (Banished, anyone?). The reliance on mines and quarries, when you have a population under thousand also seems like an overkill.

Right now I know of gathering iron-rich sand, probing for bog iron in swampy areas, collecting stones unearthed when plowing fields. I'd like to get a full list of these activities. Especially material for stone masonry is important, because, well, brick doesn't look so good. There's probably books on this as well, but can't find anything on libgen either.

>>35816

Thanks, I'll try my best.

>Is there any game or other media that mixes the age of exploration with fantasy?

Can't say I can recall any.


0508e3 No.36040

I'm no professional historian either, but I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can

1. I don't know enough about this topic to give a reliable answer, but from what I can tell, the most basic forms of castles originalyl were little more than fortified manors of the resident lord. With increasing threats (attackers evolving from small raiding bands to proper armies), these residences underwent more and more fortification until the first motte-and-bailey castles popped up, that is, castles which had one large tower atop situated on raised earthworks (the motte) and an a courtyard that was surrounded by palisades/stone walls or a ditch (the bailey).

From my understanding (but again, I recommend looking up other sources), the bailey effectively grew larger and larger, so that the motte/keep which previously was the dominant part of the castle became less prominent. Presumably, the thick walls around and the increasing size of the bailey(s) eventually led to domestic structures being moved there from the keep, whereas the latter increasingly became a purely defensive structures to which the inhabitants could flee if the bailey itself had been breached.

Of course, the closer you were to dangers such as hostile tribes, the less resources you typically had at hand, and the less resources you have, the less you can afford to build a fortified bailey large enough to hold great halls and the like. To this end, the keep presumably retained it's role as a "fortified home" in many border regions.

2. Again, I don't really know to much about this, but one thing that came to my mind was that churches often were built from relatively robust materials (read: stone), which would have allowed them to serve as a form of emergency shelter. Some communities also built "refuge castles", that is, castle-like structures with more-or less fortified walls around them that were not permanently settled but became sanctuaries in times of war.

That being said, life as a peasant in border regions was not very nice. Just look how the Vikings could show up with their boats, pillage and rape thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


8826b2 No.36059

>>35924

>Medieval jobs

Don't forget your coopers anon, imagine how awful middle ages life would be if there were no barrels, meaning no easy transportation of alcohol meaning the masses in the city had no 'clean' drinks and had to depend on the questionable water.




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16b9b8 No.36049[Reply]

Was thinking of having this thread for a little while now, thought it'd be funny if we made a timeline of /his/ from when it all started. I've been on /his/ for awhile now but I wasn't here for the first months of Roman-circlejerk and the one Mongol-shitposter.

1a3dd8 No.36053

>>36049

this thread gets made like once every three months and the answer is no.


16b9b8 No.36057

>>36053

Thank you for your input, representative of the whole of /his/! Also, this thread does not come up every three months, just by looking through the catalogue you can see that it's been just under five months, at least, that a thread similar to this has been created. The reason why I created a new one is because the last one did seem promising and I did have a little chuckle looking through the few replies to the post.




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