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Stop trying to start shit with other boards. Next time I see someone go "HAHA LOOK AT THIS /pol/ THREAD THEY'RE SO DUMB", they're getting slapped.

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f725e3 No.12372[Reply]

""We want to eventually have a resources sticky with links and suggestions of good books, podcasts, etc""

And yet here we are in the year 2015 without such a thing. Let's change this, /his/torians: post up your resources and books you've found invaluable in your quest for knowledge.

And don't be a dick about it: don't just link something random. Try and give a very brief review of it, indicate why it's good and who its target audience would be. Introductory stuff is always going to be welcome, but sometimes it can be hard to find where to go next, so help your brothers out.
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a13359 No.36281

>>35420

>Every second paper nowadays

>nowadays

You'd have to look at how reputable it was during that time period.




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12e834 No.33850[Reply]

RULES 2016 EDITION

1. Obey global rules

2. Keep things related to history and its study.

2a. History, for the purposes of this board, covers pre-History and all events up to the fall of the Soviet Union. Further than that and it's considered political discussion or discussion of modern events- take it to /pol/ or /b/.

3. If lewd images must be posted, do so on spoilers. Consider if it wouldn't be better posted elsewhere.

3-a. If you're in doubt whether it's lewd enough to spoiler, err on the side of caution and do it.

GUIDELINES- not quite rules, but good to follow for good posting

1. Check the catalog before posting to see if a thread may already be available for your discussion.

1a. Avoid making threads expecting people to just do your homework for you. Show some work yourself in starting the discussion instead of just "guys what was the main reason for the fall of Sebastianism in the 19th century"

2. Be prepared to present good sources for anything you claim, especially if you come here to posit opinions you know are controversial.

3. This being 8ch, we don't want to limit what you can post about. That said, we'd like posts to be of a good quality level, and related to history. If your post contains nothing more than >IMPLYING NIGGERS HAD A CULTURE, consider if you aren't better off in /pol/.

4. If you have any problem with the moderation here, or suggestions, please post them here instead of making a thread for it (not really historical-related) or making one in whatever board about 8ch discussion is being used nowadays (I don't even know!)

In other words, don't be a dumbass. This board works fine with a semi-absent BO and a bunch of mods who delete CP bots. Don't ruin it.

(want to post banners, do so here too)

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071e8a No.36140

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>>35611

>some Saturday soon.

being this saturday

so if you have nothing to do, come to khantube, in about 5 and a half hours (and pre-movie party before that)




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9f571c No.6981[Reply]

We've got customizable flags
Post here what flags you want me to upload.
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271221 No.35911

Testing




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213040 No.36215[Reply]

Hi /his, I come from /pol/, and sometimes I think they get a bit LARPy on there with their own version of the "WE WUZ KANGZ" shit. For example they claim that the Sumerians and the Egyptian nobility were of European stock - at first I laughed it off but then they posted some interesting things that at least warrant investigation. So what are your thoughts on this stuff? Is there any merit to any of it?

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cc3403 No.36284

>>36268

>almost every ancient civilization you learn at school was indo-european

>what is shang dynasty

>what is mohenjodaro-harappa

Also, look at mohenjodaro-harappa, they have sewage system in their cities. Look what noble aryan/indo-european did to them. Poo in the Loo.


9215b4 No.36286

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>/pol/ ridicules Blacks for the "We wuz kangz" shit

>Then promptly sputters "No, WE wuz kangz!"

I know that board went down the gutter after the second exodus, but this is just sad.

As for the Sumerian statues - the Sumerian clearly were stark black, cf. pic related.


b5ff6f No.36287

>>36286

>/pol/ is one person


0fa984 No.36288

>>36287

I like to think that it is just one guy rambling to himself about niggers and kikes.


e0ed2a No.36289

>>36288

hahahahaha, just sitting in a room resetting his router constantly




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c184ac No.34080[Reply]

Was it a good thing that the Normans conquered England or did this hinder the development of England? I can imagine it being the latter but I can not provide much evidence as to why.

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317971 No.34988

>>34543

>>34577

that king's mask looks extremely impractical and uncomfortable, is there any evidence that it has been used in battle? cause it would seem a bit more logical to me that it was just a gravegift like king tuts mask


001750 No.36222

>>34988

As a HEMA guy, that helmet doesn't look any less practical than a sallet and bevor in the 15th century. It would protect the fact, and that rendering seems to indicate that it gave you good range of vision. Most helmets are catch-22s anyway.


87f022 No.36238

>>34988

Armor is always uncomfortable. On the other hand, if someone swings a sword at your face, you'll be stunned instead of murdered. There's tradeoffs. 'Course, having the visor look like your face is just 'cause it looks badass, a blank plate would work just as well.


5dca79 No.36265

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>>34988

Are you referring to the Sutton Hoo helmet, or to masked helmets in general? I don't know about the former, but the latter were certainly in use among Parthian and maybe Roman cataphracts, so it must be a battleworthy design.

I don't see what's "extremely impractical and uncomfortable" about the former, either.


c184ac No.36285

>>36265

I think it's about the heat inside the helmet would limit your breathing. You're going to have to have it made for you specifically as well, otherwise it's going to be uncomfortable as fuck. Then you just have the problems with helmets restricting your vision and shit like that.




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17a383 No.34719[Reply]

want to ask a question but too scared of being bullied? ask it here!

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12c149 No.36234

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Just how how big of an effect would the Chi Nu have if they ever saw combat?

Would Operation Downfall really be as chaotic as Truman claimed?


953e33 No.36244

>>36234

I don't think Japan even had the capacity to produce those at a level that was needed.

Even if they could it would get BTFO by even mid war allied tanks, let alone late war pershings, jumbos etc.

Downfall would have been an absolute shitshow, the Atomic bombs saved more Japanese lives than they ended.


324fb5 No.36260

>>36244

I'm kinda "sad" it didn't happen though, less battles for the history books


c5c816 No.36269

>>36211

Prob Gothic and Turkic states in the Balkans


d63732 No.36283

>>36260

A tank battle in the pacific? Yes please.




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6b8f47 No.36088[Reply]

Is Latin easy to learn? My first language is Korean btw

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eb1fab No.36099

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>>36097

Sure /lang/ is fine and he should check that out but this is /his/. Romeaboos and latinfags galore.

English actually will help *slightly* in terms of vocabulary.


b31828 No.36102

>>36088

It requires a lot of practice to learn the forms and ways in which they are used, especially when it comes to the subjunctive and the ways in which it is used. Vocabulary isn't too bad since you apparently know English.


15f3ae No.36275

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If you know Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, or to a lesser extent French, Latin becomes stupidly easy to learn. Especially Spanish and Portuguese, where a lot of the vocabulary is almost exactly the same as in Classical Latin, and the bits that aren't are either closer to Vulgar Latin or stem from English.

I took Latin I-IV in uni as free options. They ended up being GPA boosters and were a welcome break from the endless integrals and linear algebra involved in doing a physics degree.


1d8807 No.36277

>>36275

How did they teach the phonology?


b142a4 No.36280

TENTE PRIAPE FAVE




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273e6a No.36246[Reply]

What did actually Sweden do during World War 2?

cbdaa0 No.36249

>>36246

Well not all that much, they basically allowed train travel for the Nazis and then for Britain, they did not anger either and were pretty compliant.


554110 No.36252

>>36249

Didn't they also help mobilize troops to Finland in preparation to Operation Barbarossa?


323cef No.36262

sell steel to Germany, generally being one of the few winners of the war.


4bd8b4 No.36263

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From what i know, they supported Finland during the war, sending supplies and volunteers to fight for the Fins. They took inn a great deal of both Finnish, Danish, Norwegian and Jewish refugees during the war.

Sold a good amount of steel to the German war machine and helped train Norwegian police units while the Norwegian government were in exile. later on they supported the Norwegian and Soviet campaign in Finnmark (44-45).

They also sent state officials to Vinnitsa and Katyn in 1943 during the German led investigation of the massacre that took place there during the Soviet purges of the 1930's, witch became a huge deal back home and in most German occupied territories.

The Swedish Red Cross also undertook the White buses expedition late in the war, in an effort to rescue Scandinavian prisoners in the many concentration camps under Nazi control.

Despite all of this they remained largely neutral during the war, but feared both Nazi and allied invasion during the war.


da5fae No.36274

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.




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12aa2a No.36272[Reply]

Can we get some Historical Memes? My pc dieded and i lost all of my /his/ macros and jpegs. Ill start

179666 No.36273

>>36272

there is already a thread for history memes

>>35155

>>35155

>>35155




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7ea6e2 No.15125[Reply]

Could Stalin, Hitler and the Japs have beaten the Allies and Mussolini?

>inb4 Musso was so shit the allies would lose cause he smelled bad
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158fba No.36126

>>29640

If Hitler had waited until 1942 the Red Army would probably have both eclipsed the Wehrmacht and been staffed with competent officers sooner, making defeat for the Germans before 1945 more or less inevitable.

>>29695

>>29766

Maybe Canaris wasn't as much of a traitor then. But treason rests in the intentions, not the results.

>>29760

>If you can persuade the Japs to hold off on Pearl Harbour

Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.

>>29790

>delaying invading the USSR.

To be honest I think a more effective strategy would have been finding out a way to knock them out even faster, but I'm not sure that would have been possible. I suppose it depends how reliant the USSR was on central authorities — that is, whether cutting off the head would have rendered them a non-threat. I'm not sure this would have been possible.

Certainly the USSR would have been far easier to defeat without its food, raw materials, factories, clothes, engines, fuel, etc. but knocking them out is a tall order. Given its vastness I don't think knocking out its industry is a viable tactic. A more sensible one I think would have been spurring the anti-Soviet sentiment prevalent throughout Eastern Europe. In other words, I think the only way Germany wins WWII when the USSR exists is more manpower. If they got nationalists from Eastern Europe — most especially anti-Soviets within the USSR itself, perhaps wooing the military (if that's even possible post-purge) — I think defeating them mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


719d88 No.36127

>>36126

>Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.

Very difficult to do this when we consider how different the ideologies between China and Germany was, this would have also had pissed off Japan to no end, though that might not have been a problem to be fair.

> If they got nationalists from Eastern Europe — most especially anti-Soviets within the USSR itself, perhaps wooing the military (if that's even possible post-purge) — I think defeating them may have been possible.

They did try this but they treated the Russian people like shit during the invasion so many actually fought with the USSR rather than the Nazis. Some did fight with the Nazis though.>Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.


7cfeab No.36130

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>>36124

>the Germans had assumed that Italy was capable enough to manage that front on their own with minimal German aid.

>>36126

>Perhaps by that point formalizing an alliance with the Chinese would have been a more sensible option.

What could the chinese do that the japs couldn't do better?

>A more sensible one I think would have been spurring the anti-Soviet sentiment prevalent throughout Eastern Europe.

Absolutely, they could have found great allies in Ukranians

>People criticize them a lot but I think they did about as well as they possibly could have.

They could've won, i think with some tweaks things would've been very different.


707dca No.36242

>>15125

Sort of? While it's questionable whether or not the Nazis ever could've defeated the UK so long as they had the support of the US, they never stood a chance against the Soviets simply due to population differences. The Nazis did not have enough people to occupy all of that land. Access to Soviet oil would've been a huge boon to Rommel during the tank battles in North Africa, possibly enough to prevent the Axis defeats on that front. Now, the Soviets wouldn't have been especially capable of helping out with the invasion of the UK because neither their navy nor air force was all that much to write home about, but if the battle for North Africa went in favor of the Axis, it's questionable whether the allies ever could've done anything but stalemate on the western front.

On the other hand, the underdeveloped Soviet infrastructure in their far east makes it questionable how much pressure they could really put on the Chinese, and China was the Soviet Union of the Pacific front. Japan could never have beaten them because they didn't have enough people to occupy all of that land, especially not with Communist Party guerillas preventing them from every really controlling the territory that was nominally behind their front lines. The fact that the Soviet navy and air force aren't much to write home about would likewise mean that the entire Pacific front against the US would've gone pretty much exactly the same, so even if Japan hangs onto their Chinese holdings their homeland is still within nuking range of American bombers. Japan is going to lose the exact same way they lost historically.

But the underdeveloped infrastructure of eastern Russia cuts both ways. Just like the Soviets would have a hard time mobilizing enough troops to be a difference maker in the Chinese front (keep in mind that occupying China requires a fuckton of troops, so this isn't just a matter of getting an army in the area at all, but getting and supplying a fucknormously huge army for several years), the Americans would have a hard time mounting a respectable invasion through Siberia even if they captured all of China.

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c4af56 No.36261

>>36242

>The Nazis did not have enough people to occupy all of that land

They didn't need to, they could've just sat up a puppet state in place, get their lebensbraum and leave the rest of russia to russian facist allies, same for China.




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cc55f4 No.36184[Reply]

how do they expect me to read the diacriticals in this tiny babby font?

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0133

99d849 No.36190

What's the matter gramps, can't read the spiritus asper?


527a9c No.36235

>>36190

itsnot that i cant read it whatsoever, its just that i have to strain my eyes ever so slightly to determine for certian if its an acute, grave, rough, or smooth breathing mark. i should just be able to read it without having to look extra super duper hard at it, or changing my default font size to super-mega-ham size just to properly read this shit.


090b26 No.36251

>>36184

tbh it'd be more readable with a serif font


2221aa No.36256

>>36184

Just zoom in, malakos.




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899d27 No.14352[Reply]

>be me a Normal Roman Soldier
>stationed in Britan
>a cute celtic girl comes up to me and asks for help
>be Virgin, too beta to go to whore house
>her father who is ancient needs help walking
>he is very ancient, must have fought against Ceaser (200 years later btw)
>he sees me
>I start to help him
>I take him to the forge (where he worked, good arms but bad legs and hip)
>I leave trying to look as Alpha as a centurion infront of Celtic girl
>she asks me to follow her
>go behind a hut
>awwyeah.ivorysculpture
>no awwyeah.ivorysculpture
>as she starts to take her shirt off someone hits the back of my head with a rock
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6bfe2e No.36160

>>36148

>confusing the battle of Antioch with the siege of Jerusalem

>.scroll

>.papyrus

>general nonsense

3/10


0a8aaf No.36173

>>36160

Yeah. I should just accept I'm bad at greentext stories.


acc0bc No.36179

>>33528

it's pretty bad


075359 No.36193

>>36147

You monster.


3320e4 No.36253

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>>32501

TOP KEK




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5bba1b No.20648[Reply]

>Europeans never practiced concubinage

>Europeans never practiced sex slavery

>Europeans never practiced female genital mutilation

>Europeans never made women cover up

>Europeans never stoned women to death for adultery

While women in Asian, African and Middle Eastern countries today are having their clits removed at birth, getting acid thrown in their faces and are forced to wear giant sheets over their bodies, European women hundreds of years ago were leading armies into battle.

So I ask you /his. Why can't non Europeans into treating the torch bearers of their respective races with basic respect and dignity?

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8b1f00 No.36202

>>36178

Yeah, and it's gotten really annoying lately. /pol/ has become to /his/ what the Jews are to /pol/, that is to say a boogeyman. The difference is at least /pol/'s paranoia is funny to watch, whereas /his/ just comes across as having a giant stick shoved up it's collective ass.


2c1909 No.36206

>>36200

You misunderstand. I'm saying these days it's corrupt, which is how it got flooded with third worlders and other problems which then lead to most of them no longer doing well and increasing their crime rates.


2c1909 No.36207

>>36206

Or more to the point it's gotten much more corrupt, which didn't use to be the case.


59c48b No.36210

>>36202

Yeah, it's a bit annoying really, any retarded or dissident opinion is a "/pol/" opinion, which is a bit silly. It is a minority though.

>>36206

Tell me more about how countries being corrupt has led to mass migration, that is a very… different opinion. Also, if you admit that European countries are corrupt and are not doing well economically then the point that European and Anglosphere countries are superior is irrelevant.


ecfcda No.36241

>>36080

He's referring to the migration era, I assume, in the waning days of the Western Roman Empire and the century or two after its collapse. Barbarians crossed the entire continent pillaging and raping as they went.

>>36122

So you're saying that the point of /pol/ is dishonest narrative-building. And this is supposed to make us like them more?




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e3d3fa No.36167[Reply]

Would the ME been better off if the Ottoman Empire didnt dissolve after WW1?

3e6bf2 No.36168

>>36167

It would have dissolved shortly after most likely anyway.


ec00f5 No.36175

>>36167

You can't really go into this alternate history because the Ottoman Empire had been collapsing for over a century, there was very little way for it to stay stable.


e3d3fa No.36177

>>36175

>>36168

But then at least the lands wouldnt be in control of Britain, which together with the US has done great contributions to the ME's instability and zealotry


b06db6 No.36205

>>36177

Instead you would have some further decades under a regim that had already been collapsing in upon itself for a good while. Cue different warlords taking control of the territory, and you more or less inevitably end up with the ME being just as fucked up as it is today, or the British taking over after which the ME also becomes just as fucked up as it is today.


0208ad No.36239

>>36167

Well, yes, because if it didn't dissolve after WW1 that necessarily means that the descent into anarchy caused by its century-long collapse must have been halted. It's just that causation goes the other way. The Middle-East isn't better off because of the Ottoman Empire, it's just that the Middle-East being better off is a pre-requisite of the survival of the Ottoman Empire.




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4d8ed5 No.36146[Reply]

Amateur military /his/torian here (Hopefully one day professional military /his/torian). I recently did some casual digging into the Migration era and the subsequent Viking era. Normally I'm very much into Antiquity, the Medieval period, and the Renaissance and Early Modern. I've never paid much attention to this one, but now I'm distinctly interested.

What reading would you recommend to educate myself on the fundamentals of this period?

c13d0c No.36151

>>36146

Okay, I'm preparing for a shit storm but I you're looking for something that is entertaining while also giving some sort of historical context, Bernard Cornwell's novels are amazing.


4d8ed5 No.36153

>>36151

The Saxon Stories, right? I can work with that, but I was also hoping for just straight up informative books as well. Either way, thanks for pointing me in literally any kind of helpful direction, anon.


91f519 No.36182

>>36153

>but I was also hoping for just straight up informative books as well

Dr Barbara Yorke-Kings and Kingdoms of Early Anglo-Saxon England

Lapidge, John Blair, Simon Keynes, Donald Scragg-The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Anglo-Saxon England

EsmondebCleary-The Ending of Roman Britain

Stuart Laycock-Britannia_ The Failed State_ Ethnic Conflict and the End of Roman Britain

Stuart Laycock-Warlords_ The Struggle for Power in Post-Roman Britain

You can get them all from lib.gen.rus.ec/

Also get the Osprey books if you like pretty pictures and /his/ memes


4d8ed5 No.36223

>>36182

Cool, thanks for all the help!




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