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Things are fine here. But 8chan is kinda broken indeed, with shit like this coming and going.

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Also requesting something on general geography.

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Ended the Chaos, created an Empire. Will any African country ever have such a great man as leader again?


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France should be nuked solely for enabling that charade.

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Kia Ora.

Just found out about this wonderful (((old))) dating system called "Anno Mundi". Literally: The Year of the World, as calculated by old testament records, given king lists etc. I cant figure out if it's exactly the same as the "Jewish year" or not as there appears to be some discrepancies, probably due to leap years.

So day 1 of genesis is AM0, the flood is AM1656, Exodus was AM2448 and jesus was AM3896

Apparently we are in the year 5779.

Pretty unreal that everyone was way more awful than we have been since 4123BC, since God hasn't water nuked us again since.

Russia used the calendar up to 1700AD and I think the Byzantines used it too but i'm not clear on that.

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Why are Romanians and Bulgarians so close together genetically despite speaking different languages, being separated by a large river (Danube), and having different histories (different states, autonomy vs. Ottoman Empire)? Why don't we see the same with Romanians and Serbs, for example?

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Genetic insights into the social organisation of the Avar period elite in the 7th century AD Carpathian Basin



>Our results indicate that the Avar elite arrived in the Carpathian Basin as a group of families, and remained mostly endogamous for several generations after the conquest.

So, indeed, not only the Avars but other groups throughout history were only Elite rulers, and didn't mix with the general population.

Again, in accord with what we already knew, Eastern Europe got loads of invasions but these invaders didn't make a dent in their genetics.

>"So it means Slavs don't have any Mongoloid DNA?"

It depends. First, there are many different Slavs. Of those, most really don't have any.

Only Northern and Volga Russians have it (Western Russians don't), and it comes from a much earlier times, before the historical era, from the same source that went to Finland.



Thanks, I'm tired of the mongolian DNA meme



So are you saying that old Romanian would have been descended from an Italic language that stayed in the Balkans as Italy was being settled by Italic speakers?

Or are you saying that the colonists the Romans used in Dacia were not Romans, but non-Roman Italian allies?



I'm not saying anything, but there's this theory that some early Italo-Celtic speakers remained in Romania, and the language would actually be vernacular of the place.

We can't know for sure though.



And the Balkans spoke Illyrian languages before, which were very close to Italo-Celtic.

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Hello /his/

Are Julius Caesar and Augustus the Omega Chads history said they were?

Redpill me on the early Roman Empire.


Well, they were good, but not for the reasons people think.

They tried to return to Numa Pompilius economic system.

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The history of the late republic reads a lot more like a bunch of medieval warlords vying for power. I think that's the best way to think about Caesar, Pompey, Sulla, etc., they were a lot more like warlords, they didn't really want to change the political system in meaningful ways, or if they did they just didn't succeed. So in other words, Caesar was no different than his peers, he was just the one who did slightly better than the others.

Augustus is treated the way he is because he was one of the few people who realized where Rome was going. He didn't get caught up in the mindless conquests that others did, he was mostly concerned with creating peace and stability especially later in his reign. If you look at how he reorganized Egypt for instance, its clear he knew what he was doing.

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I made the realization today that the Augustus treated the loss of 3 legions or around 20k men as a huge thing that forever stopped rome expanding into germania.

And compare that to Cannae where the romans lost 80k men, continued to demand unconditional surrender from Carthage, and eventually won the war. In fact I heard they replaced all the legions they lost from Trebia, Trasimene, and Cannae in a few days. And surely the middle republic had a far smaller manpower pool than the principate. How did it get that bad so quickly?

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i am doing a school work on this bloke named Sigismund, could you help me out.


like, from the Nibelungenlied?

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Throughout the vast majority of history, as a species we have simply existed like other animals. Eat, breed, survive. Norma. Then came religion and philosophy, which dictated how to live. It regulated social relations and explained the unexplained, but it was still about survival.

However, somewhere at the end of the Middle Ages a different approach to improvement began to emerge in Western Europe. Not to survive, but to improve, to check. Change for the sake of change, not necessarily. This new way of thinking developed slowly and exploded with all its might in the 19th century. Eccentric people, inventors, crazy people discovering something became "pop stars". Inventing and discovering became fashionable. This lasted until the middle of the 20th century and became commonplace.

In my opinion, inventiveness is not fashionable nowadays but only desirable to satisfy consumers, so in part we return to thinking from before this revolution only at a different level. We expect that there will be inventions, but the people who design them are not famous, and these are just another anonymous work that we do not worship but demand.

Admittedly, there are universities, pop culture productions promoting slogans: "all the time forward", "don't give up", "it's up to you", "you make your way", but how many people listen to them?

There is no longer such pressure on these slogans and I am afraid that we are entering another period of stagnation, so much so that at a higher level of development, which in turn is more difficult to maintain in the case of "misfortune".

What do you think about the present imperative of the progress that our civilization has made. Why was it possible to create it? What do you see its origins in? Is it really burning itself out or has it just changed its form? And if not, how far will we go with the fumes?

Or do you think that it is a feature of our species and we were condemned to technical development?


Greeks and Romans already had this mindset, but lost with time, for the same reason we lost it as well.

Economy turned into a deity, and it began dictating morality and societal destiny.


Libertarianism and Communism are the pinnacle of the Economy-religion, as they put Materialism as the core of every single tenet they propose, every single reasoning, every single dogma, and to go against it would be sin.

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Has there ever been a more unique and exciting era in history, a time filled with more adventure and larger than swashbuckling heroes and bloodthirsty villains, than the Golden Age of Piracy?

Also piracy in the Carribean seems to get more attention than piracy that took place in the colder waters of the North Atlantic but much happened in both places. In fact the only real media I can think of that has ever even used this setting is Assassins Creed: Rogue which is basically Black Flag but set in the icy waters of the North Atlantic Why is that?

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>Literally pillage and assassination.

>A sport of gentleman.

So in the future the niggers who shot and rob will be seen as "gentleman"?



I would say no, as they aren't really warrior aristocrats, but then again, they kind of are, being kangs.



The real Golden Age was at Islamic Times, with Barbary Pirates.

Then, it was state-sponsored terrorism by the UK.

And now, it's independent warlordism practices mainly by the peoples of the Horn of Africa.


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Fuck off mudslime filth



I'm not the one being apologetic to robbery, terrorism, and barbarism.

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tfw you will never live in a reality where what is now Pakistan,Afghanistan and Tajikistan remained

pic related is one of the oldest representations of Buddha made in a Hellenistic style and made in what is now Pakistan

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This movie, Baahubali, ironically produced by South Indians (who think their ancestors were the Aryans in the movie, and who made their own ancestors be the enemy) is based on one of the two Aryan epics, the Mahabharata (the other being the Ramayana) and is so far, the biggest movie India has ever produced.


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some Indo-Greek artwork found mostly in Pakistan and North west India


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The Titan Atlas, supporting a Buddhist monument, Afghanistan


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The Seated Buddha, dating was found in Jamal Garhi, Pakistan


I'd really like to know how that brief hellenic buddhism worked in practice. Did they know what they were doing in terms of theology, or did they just adopt the trappings of the local religion? Did they "convert" their own gods to buddhism (funny to think that Zeus might have stopped answering rituals back in Greece because he was busy meditating)? Shame Debate of King Milinda isn't an actual record of a real conversation.

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What the fuck happened to indians (dot not feather)? We, understandingly, associate India with third world subhuman degenerates who shit out in the streets, but unlike pretty much all other third world shitholes India actually used to have a very impressive ancient civilization that even Greeks respected. How can a civilization degrade this much while remaining largely homogeneous, in the same place and never diminishing?

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>Yes, go on.

You can find many references in ancient Greek literature to the "great buildings of India", "great temples of India" and so on. They clearly respected it.

>Very wrong here, Indians are completely different from one another, and that's one reason why any attempted unification or solidarity, or common destiny or anything.

I meant more they weren't invaded and displaced by a completely different civilization or something. They are still indians. Which is why the question why they let it all go to shit interests me. But you did answer some of it.



Most of those powers got an excuse of diminishing and being completely displaced by other cultures, like sandniggers ruining Mediterranean. Which is why the fall of India is intriguing.

Also lol at Greece, it's associated with eastern europeans shitholes now. In fact, you can make a thread like this about the fall of Greece as well.


What about Cambodians etc.?



>largely homogeneous

This is so completely wrong that you can actually determine which part of India someone is from just from hearing their name, once you get the hang of it. A lot of Indians will even say that they don't really consider India a legitimate country, as in, there's not really a strong sense of 'Indian' identity. You'd probably consider yourself much more attached to a particular part of India, a caste, etc. than you would an 'Indian'

You can even find up in the north some Indians and Pakistanis who have blonde hair and very light skin, such as the Kailash who claim (dubiously) that they migrated with Alexander the Great (but are probably older, and are more closely related to Persians or Indo-Aryans than the Greeks).

Some Indians (almost always Brahmins) could even pass for Europeans, and some Europeans could even pass for Brahmins, and in many cases they can also resemble Persians or Turks.

I understand what you're getting at though. India has a magnificent culture, easily one of the greatest in the world. But we don't even really have a convincing argument for how they came up with the tools to pull off some of the incredible temples they made, like Kailasa, for example, especially if you take the time frames they give in their historical texts as being accurate (although you certainly don't need to take them at face value, of course).

Where all that knowledge went is an equally difficult question to answer, but I would actually argue that the ancient Indians were driven out, and the modern Indians are not the same population, except for some mixture, again mainly within the Brahmin caste.

The degradation of Indian cultures is probably one of the great tragedies of history, in my opinion.


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