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b17337 No.34130

I don't know if alternate history speculation is allowed on this board, but I wanted to ask a question : what would have happened if England never colonized India? I know India was not a unified nation at the time, but could the empires of India at the time fought back the british? what would happen in India's history from there on to today?

Pic related. flag of the Kingdom of Travancore

2014cf No.34134

>>34130

>I don't know if alternate history speculation is allowed on this board

It's allowed but we already have an alternate history thread, you should check the catalogue before making a thread. Also, alternate history isn't really history, only speculation, and there are so may variables involved in a question as large as "what if England never colonised India" that there is no point even speculating.


4836d0 No.34146

>>34130

Hard to say what would happen, but a few things that are pretty much guaranteed

>India never gets united, Pakistan never comes to be

>Other European nations probably try to exert influence over India

>India stays fragmented and many places stay even more backward than they are today

>More shitting in the street


c56644 No.34151

>>34146

>India stays fragmented and many places stay even more backward than they are today

but at the same time the dravidian south which had a golden age before getting rekt by mughals and which is still more developed and less shitty than the north might not be "held back" by united india's government for so much


434bbf No.34155

>>34151

>more shitting in the street

Poo on shoe, not poo in loo


434bbf No.34156

>>34151

Sorry, I meant that for

>>34146


4836d0 No.34164

>>34151

I never said everything would stay shitty. The south would be the most likely to become developed and civilized, probably even first world. That would however come with tons of immigration from the north, and they might face similar problems as Europe today.


07d187 No.34330

Portugal, Spain, France, The Netherlands, and so on would try and take it.

Maybe not super successful but they'll gain small portions over time and then you get Africa Colonization 2: Electric Boogaloo


000000 No.35009

>>34130

>what would have happened if England never colonized India?

This directly affects development in Afghanistan and if they don't take that, later in China (no Opium Wars).

British expansion either goes into other directions or stalls.

Possibly less demand for materials the Fleet needs (like wood and hemp), which alone would have major economical and political consequences far outside British territories.

>>34146

>>Other European nations probably try to exert influence over India

Yup. And not only European.

>>India stays fragmented and many places stay even more backward than they are today

Not necessarily.

For one, the whole "Asian Sphere of Co-prosperity" thing would have a better chance, especially because without the need to prepare for all-out war with British fleet it could start with little to no preparation. Once the main players come to agreement, extend the railway from Russia to south, then walk in and ask "who want to be my autonomous minor partner?" - there's always someone really down on his luck at the moment. Rinse, repeat.

Maybe the Japanese would be less cooperative without British presence so close, but probably not, especially if there are other Europeans messing around. Economically, having more resources before the fighting starts is still to their benefit.


b89990 No.35032

>>34130

DESIGNATED


fa2f79 No.35060

>>34130

>what would have happened if England never colonized India?

Fance would colonize India


000000 No.35128

>>35060

>Fance would colonize India

Colonize when and with what?

France under whom - Robespierre or Napoleon?

They messed around in North America, but soon dropped what they had - cutting losses, rather than being driven into the ocean at sword-point, while locals were for them, especially after they compared them to the Protestants.

And in Africa they were outdone by Belgium of all countries.

More colonies?

They'd also need more of a fleet (both military and trade) to hold and exploit colonies.


8e7aff No.35131


61b777 No.36133

Dice rollRolled 1, 12 + 11 = 24 (2d17)

I think a good question to start with is this:could any kingdom or nation ruling within the Indian Subcontinent have been able to stop britain from colonizing all of india?


2014cf No.36136

>>36133

I'm not too educated on this subject but could Pakistan have if they had acted sooner?


61b777 No.36137

>>36136

What do you mean by Pakistan? There were different nations in modern day Pakistan during the colonial era (durrani, Sikh, Mughal)


c56644 No.36141

>>36133

>>36137

Britain's job was actually made easier by the fact that Mughals who previously controlled most of India had internal problems during the 18th century and there was a power vacuum in India at that time.


2014cf No.36152

>>36137

I just remembered that Britain had conflicts with Pakistan after taking India, honestly anon.


4836d0 No.36156

>>36136

Pakistan is a British colonial construct, just like India


d840cd No.36161

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>>36156

>Pakistan

Mughals

>India

Mauryans, Hindi state

India is as artificial as say, Iran - A Farsi state

t. knower from Azad Hind


2014cf No.36163

>>36161

JUST

FUCK

MY

PRUSSIA

UP


61b777 No.36171

>>36161

I actually tried to make that picture, but I have shitty experience with Photoshop so I decided to scrap it

>>34130

It Would be cool to wonder what happens to the Sikh empire and what a long-standing secular state would mean for the world


c56644 No.36174

>>36156

>>36161

pakistan is a british colonial construct

but india isn't because it's an empire-tier title




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