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File: 1453070177368.jpg (346.1 KB, 1500x2153, 1500:2153, Genghis-Khan.jpg)

7d8a4e No.34391

I just found this lecture by Dr. Morris Rossabi, Senior Research Scholar, Department of East Asian Languages and Cultures, at Columbia University, called, "Great Myths and Legends: Genghis Khan: Barbarian Conqueror or Harbinger of Democracy", and thought it was something worth sharing, and discussing.

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfzy7UfPdqc

Brief Overview:

The world has generally viewed Genghis Khan as a barbaric conqueror whose troops raped and murdered hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people and pillaged and often destroyed villages, towns, and cities throughout Asia and Europe. However, several popular writers have recently portrayed him as an advocate of democracy, international law, and women's rights. Morris Rossabi, Senior Research Scholar, Queens College, Columbia University, offers this illustrated lecture, which seeks to provide a balanced depiction of Genghis Khan and to explain the reasons for the myths that have developed about the man and the Mongolian people who established the largest contiguous land empire in world history.

(picture isn't related to lecture in any way other than the fact that it's genghis khan)

60a79e No.34403

>women's rights

he's spot on with international law though, and also he did put together a code of conduct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yassa


4946ef No.34405

This is a sort of symptom of the breakdown of civilization in the former west. People literally cannot tell the difference between right and wrong and have such high levels of cognitive dissonance that they look for mirrors of their supposedly highest values in a bloodthirsty rapist whose avowed mission was to act as the "scourge of God", that is to say, to murder millions because it was heaven's will. A true liberal.


ae424f No.34408

Although Khan brought some interesting legal changes to the areas he conquered (most notably imho that nobles and peasants alike generally received the same harsh punishments for the same crimes) and also did a better job at actually administrating the areas he conquered (as opposed to, say, the Huns), this doesn't change the fact that millions of people were murdered, multilated, and raped by the Mongols under their series of conquests. They merrily used genocidal terror tactics on individual towns to scare other towns into early submissions, and had absolutely no qualms to slaughter women and children if need be.

It appears Khan now officially has been invited into the ranks of the Dindu.


28ad86 No.34418

>>34391

He was a brutal conqueror, but in a way his actions brought about the end of feudalism and set us on the path to where we are today throguh the magical instrument of the Black Death, which only could have spread at such a quick rate over such long distances if there was a vast empire controlling most of Eurasia, as the Mongol Khanates were.


e6366e No.34432

>>34405

>Scourge of god

I think your mixing it up with a different Mongoloid conqueror


60a79e No.34437

>>34432

Yeah Timur is the only one who's literally considered himself "scourge of God", it's only been later attributed to Chinggis and Attila.


e7e5aa No.34440

File: 1453211083772.jpg (102.16 KB, 588x664, 147:166, local khan.jpg)

>>34391

>They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace.

:^)

R.I.P. Mesopotamia 4000 BC - 1258 AD never forget


e6366e No.34444

>>34437

Didn't Timur have writing on his tomb that said if it was opened a curse would happen and it came true with ww2 shit going on?

>>34440

eh, It was better Mesopotamia die then live to endure ayyrabs living on it's Historic soil


c7cd32 No.34452

>>34405

>>>/pol/

>>34408

>which seeks to provide a balanced depiction of Genghis Khan

It's not excusing what he did, it's just trying to be more accurate, like what they say about Hitler and his love for dogs.


b731a7 No.34459

Why does that nigga have such a big head?


e663f5 No.34467

>>34459

>>34459

Little known fact about Khan. Nigga had a huge ass head.


7d8a4e No.34474

>>34444

>Didn't Timur have writing on his tomb that said if it was opened a curse would happen and it came true with ww2 shit going on?

Never heard of this before. Is this what you were talking about?

http://historum.com/war-military-history/37223-tamerlane-ww2-tamerlane-s-curse-mystic-coincidences.html


df6fb6 No.34500

>>34452

>It's not excusing what he did, it's just trying to be more accurate, like what they say about Hitler and his love for dogs.

>advocate of democracy, international law, and women's rights

>more accurate

You can't divorce the horrific inhumane things he did from who he was. He was cruel and ruthless leader who didn't hesitate to wipe out whole cities and everything that lived there, but who also introduced and actually enforced laws (very strict but effective laws).

Suggesting that Genghis Khan was actually a nice person who is just misunderstood, because he did some good stuff is like suggesting that Hitler was a nice person "because he liked animals and it was only mere 4 millions Jews, no 7".


df6fb6 No.34502

Like if US or EU would set out to achieve world peace and democracy by mercilessly destroying everyone who didn't let themselves be subjugated immediately and than enacting good and effective laws, calling them "advocates of democracy and justice" would be a bit inaccurate even if there was some truth in it.


6f22fa No.34504

>>34500

>You can't divorce the horrific inhumane things he did from who he was

And they're not doing that, at least to my understanding. if they did that would be retarded indeed, but i don't think that's the case, neither did i say that was the case in the post you replied to.


7d8a4e No.34505

>>34500

Did you listen to the lecture, or no?


df6fb6 No.34506

>>34505

Ah, I misunderstood

>several popular writers have recently portrayed him as an advocate of democracy, international law, and women's rights. Morris Rossabi, Senior Research Scholar, Queens College, Columbia University, offers this illustrated lecture, which seeks to provide a balanced depiction of Genghis Khan

… thought it to mean that it's by those "several popular writers" when it in fact is trying to correct them.


7d8a4e No.34508

>>34500

>You can't divorce the horrific inhumane things he did from who he was.

If you haven't listened to Wrath of the Khans by Dan Carlin, you should at least listen to the first half-hour or so, He talks about this^.

You really should listen to the whole series, if you haven't; it's great.

his intro is a minute long, if you want to skip it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvrtX9ZWAOE


7d8a4e No.34509

>>34508

>his intro is a minute long

55 seconds, to be exact.


7d8a4e No.34510

>>34506

>seeks to provide a balanced depiction of Genghis Khan

AND to explain the reasons for the myths that have developed

you should listen to it. it's very good


28e137 No.34525

>>34405

>Scourge of God

That was Attila. Huns were Turkics related to Xiongnu, not Mongolians (although they had similar cultures and were both Tengriists)

Temujin was a kebab and merchant removalist extraordinaire however.


ab735b No.34533

>>34525

>Temujin was a kebab and merchant

He did get many help from Arab merchants when he was attacking Persia, but he himself wasn't a merchant




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