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c024e7 No.34657

Dumping some essays I've written here.

They were early assignments, don't expect much.

What were the causes and effects of the dissolution of Rhodesia?

This essay sets out to examine some of the major causes and effects of the dissolution of Rhodesia,

the primary focus being on the changes of government administration and external/internal affairs. As a relatively recent event in history, it is quite difficult to uncover the whole truth of the matter given the absurd amount of canvassing and slander the country and it's people have recieved. This, while making things more difficult, also makes it a prime piece of history to study, given the controversy and firm standpoints surrounding it – made all the more incendiary by how recent it was; it is in fact "living history" in that the repercussions are still being felt today (16th of July, 2015 – Mugabe pleads for white farmers to return as the native populace cannot feed themselves, having driven out the white farmers out decades previously1).

This essay will explore some of that controversy, starting with the causes of the dissolution of Rhodesia – the ideas, circumstances and events that led to the modern-day state of Zimbabwe. Then follows the effects of that tragedy (or happy ending, depending on your viewpoint) and finally concludes with some observations on the entire affair.

Rhodesia's circumstances following up to June 1979 were, despite war, terrorism and international embargo, surprisingly good – the native tribes well integrated into the country as a whole, their traditional practices and hierarchy fitting seamlessly into Rhodesian administration; "He (The tribal chief) plays a leading part in the development of his area through local government councils and community boards, yet there still remains a close personal relationship between him and his people."2. Education was proceeding apace, particularly in regards to the African populace – by 1970 there were 3,272 primary schools providing for 692,000 children, 90 secondary schools catering for 17,000 students and 21 teacher training colleges preparing over 2000 trainee teachers. As an effect and byproduct of all this investment into the native populace, Rhodesia held the highest literacy rate in Africa as well as the lowest poverty rate and no apartheid laws.

All this, despite being internationally isolated (the UN refused to recognise the country and put in place the first economic sanctions, as well as actively helping Rhodesia's enemies – only South Africa and Portugal stood with Rhodesia) from 1965 (date of the unilateral declaration of independance) and fighting the Bush War from the 1960s until the end.

The Bush War was initiated in the 1960s by Nkomo and Mugabe, heading their respective parties/terrorist organisations of ZAPU and ZANU (Zimbabwe African People's Union and Zimbabwe African National Union) to carry out attacks on Rhodesia. The war was only ended after Mugabe took control of Zimbabwe Rhodesia.

The principle cause for the dissolution of Rhodesia was the Internal Settlement and the Lancaster House Agreement: The settlement saw Ian Smith, who had been successfully acting as Rhodesia's Prime Minister for nearly 15 years, establish Majority Rule and hold a general election during April of 1979, in which moderate African Nationalist parties were allowed to participate. The leader of UANC (United African National Council) Abel Muzorewa was elected (with no prior political experience), wth Ian Smith staying on in the government to advise him.

International observers witnessed the election process and agreed it was free and fair, the result being that the Rhodesians (now Zimbabwe Rhodesians) hoped the international isolation would end… It did not. The United Nations Security Council Resolution 423 declared the internal settlement illegal, pushing the British government (pressured by other interested parties, the USA in particular) into forcing their hand. The only thing that would do to lift the sanctions was if Muzorewa immediately held another election and allowed the terrorists Nkomo and Mugabe to take part – this was the Lancaster House Agreement, which Lord Carrington, the British Foreign Secretary, forced Muzorewa and Smith (refusing Smith's advice not to go) into attending.

With no other option, the election was to go ahead, despite last ditch attempts at removing the problem – Operations Quartz and Hectic, which attempted to capture terrorist agents working to coerce the populace into voting for Mugabe, and assasinating Mugabe, respectively.

The failure of the operations led to Mugabe getting "elected" by means of fraud, manipulation and exploitation (one explanation could be in the voting structure – officially, tribesmen were to vote on a particular day, then Mugabe's goons told them that this day was specifically for voting for ZANU… So the majority voted for ZANU. Hearsay, however).

Abel Muzorewa held office for not quite seven months.

c024e7 No.34658

>>34657

The effects of the dissolution of Rhodesia (and Zimbabwe Rhodesia) stem almost entirely from Mugabe and his terrorist army's policies. The inital most shocking event was Gukurahundi, a politically and racially motivated extermination of the Matabele tribes, to which Nkomo and his supporters belonged to (Mugabe and his supporters are Ndau/Shona). Aiding their Marxist ally, the North Koreans sent advisers to train Mugabe's troops (most notably 5th Brigade), whereupon Mugabe's men began their extermination of ZAPU and the Matabele – in the first four years of the conflict, it is estimated that over 30,000 were killed (wilder estimates range from 20 to 80 thousand). With Mugabe firmly in power, entrenched in his communistic dictatorship, he began the series of injustices that continue to this day. To reward his loyal minions he confiscates white property, in particular, farms, uprooting these established families and destroying their livelihood. This systematic discrimination, exploitation and appropriation against whites has led to ironic consequences for Zimbabwe – as Rhodesia, the land was known as "the Breadbasket of Africa", exporting food to neighbouring countries – but as Zimbabwe, the land goes mishandled and broken, leading to famine, starvation and drought, because as a consequence of doing away with all the good that Rhodesia and the white populace brought the natives, the country is back to being just another dictator-led hellhole amidst the countless others in Africa – gone is that system of government that integrated the tribes, gone is the education system, no longer does the average Zimbabwean have any real democratic right or even basic human right. The problem, it has to be said, is self perpetuating, caused by rampant population explosion (as in the rest of Africa).

Under Rhodesian (and the preceding Colonial states) plenty, the African populace exploded, growing from a few hundred thousand in 1890 to many millions, most of whom continued to live a "traditional" life – although the facilities for education were there, many students were absent for more than half the year, having prioritised the maintenance of subsistence farming over future large-scale farming1. As a result, once the large-scale farm estates of the whites were handed over to Mugabe's thugs, what was previously a beautiful pastoral and agricultural landscape returned to wasteland (not even the architecture was safe from this mistreatment, once-great countryside manors being destroyed from within at the brutish or uncaring hands of the new residents – rather like Johannesburg at the hands of the "ghouls" – where thousands of Africans took over the city and destroyed the infrastructure).

This continual mistreatment led to the almost complete abandonment of ancestral homes – white flight, and Mugabe's plea for their return today (see page 1). In 2002, there were less than 50,000 elderly whites remaining in Zimbabwe2.

As a consequence of this devolution, (as in the rest of Africa) the member nations of the UN once again straddle their high horses and waste millions in "African aid", blithely brushing aside or uncaring that this so-called aid merely dissapears into the pockets of Mugabe and his counterparts all over Africa and what little finds it's way to the people only exacerbates the population problem, continuing the confusing timeline of contradictory decisions ("We stand for freedom and democracy, so let's hate Rhodesia, a (parliamentary) republic, for being a successful state and aid our enemies, the Communists, in putting terrorist dictators in power"… The Cold War proxy wars gone mad – perhaps no-one knew who was proxy-ing who anymore).

Ian Smith stayed on in Zimbabwe until 1987 as a member of the opposition, and remained in the country until 2005, where he left for South Africa for medical treatment.

Despite regular threats from the government, he was not touched… Because Mugabe was using him to showcase his "reconciliation policy3" (in 1985 Mugabe purged parliament of all white members, saying that they "compromised the sovereignity of our people"… So much for reconcilliation).


c024e7 No.34659

>>34658

In conclusion, the sad story of the dissolution of Rhodesia serves as a warning to us all, not to be led on by base emotion or egged into rash action. The blame for this lies in large part upon us (that is, British subjects) – from the very beginnings of Rhodesia the country was lambasted unfairly, for little purpose other than to inspire transient feelings of moral superiority in those who did not understand the realities of the situation; the political establishment was outraged by the UDI (despite the forerunners of Rhodesia being self-governing colonies and in essence independant in any case), the Prime Minister Harold Wilson going so far as to urge the Rhodesian people to ignore their own government, describing it as "hell-bent on illegal self-destroying"1, with the UN joining in quickly, throwing out claims of illegality and racism – the Security Council resolutions 216 and 217, urging embargo, calls Rhodesia and the UDI an "usurpation of power by a racist settler minority" – in a perfect example of hypocrisy, countries belonging to the United Nations and the Organisation of African Unity continued to trade with Rhodesia on the sly (even then, so soon after and during de-colonialisation it seems Africa had recognised that it could not sustain itself).

This unrepentant persistent and baseless accusation persists to this day (and has in fact grown in usage – don't like someone's opinion or actions? Shout "racist!" until they give up – the new "witchcraft!" or "heretic!"…), helped along by media stirring as part of the growth of "leftist"or "cultural marxist"-oriented politics (in essence, political correctness to the extent of censorship, used as a vehicle to turn opinion against anything "wrong" – in the case of Rhodesia, the recognisance that there are differences between races and that the circumstances placed capabilities overly in the hands of the whites), for example the BBC (then, as now) referring to the African Nationalist terrorists as "guerrilla freedom fighters" (That old proverb – "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"…).

The British terms for recognising Rhodesian independance were that both races were represented fairly – which would mean an overwhelmingly black native government, which would push the events that unfolded after Mugabe came to power much earlier.

All in all, the dissolution of Rhodesia meant that the only working African state was torn to shreds and replaced with yet another destitute warzone, because those in "the first world" didn't want to understand the realities of the African continent.


c024e7 No.34660

>>34659

Footnotes

1. News24, 11/11/2015. http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/Crisis-hit-Zimbabwe-wants-white-farmers-back-report-20150716

2. 1970. http://www.rhodesia.me.uk/APeoplesProgress.htm 11/11/2015

3. Situation in 1928, presumed to remain so http://www.rhodesia.me.uk/APeoplesProgress.htm 11/11/15

4. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/1389134/Ian-Smith-is-stripped-of-Zimbabwe-citizenship.html 11/11/15

5. http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar/28/news/mn-35122 11/11/15

6. Wood, J R T (April 2008). "A Matter of Weeks Rather Than Months: The Impasse Between Harold Wilson and Ian Smith: Sanctions, Aborted Settlements and War 1965–1969". Victoria, British Columbia: Trafford Publishing. ISBN 978-1-4251-4807-2.

BIBLIOGRAPHY

The Great Betrayal (Smith, Ian. 1997)

The Rhodesian Herald (Newspaper)

The Rhodesian Archive (Weyer, Colin. 11/11/2015, http://www.rhodesia.me.uk/)

Television footage (Ex. British Pathe)

The Rhodesian Soldier (van Tonder, Gerry. 11/11/2015, http://www.rhodesiansoldier.com/about-me.html)

Various (see footnotes)


c024e7 No.34661

Well, the formatting fucked up :/


c024e7 No.34662

Anti-Semitism through the Ages

picture: An incomplete listing of expulsions.

This essay aims to show a little of the history of anti-Semitism through history, by comparing three connected, but varied primary sources from three different periods of history, with a particular emphasis on expulsions. Such sources do not lack, as the above list of 109 incidents shows.

The sources I have chosen are literary:

From the period 500-1500 comes the Alhambra Decree, enacted by the Catholic Monarchs Isabella of Castille and Ferdinand II of Aragon in 14921.

From the period 1500-1700, the penultimate sermon delivered by Martin Luther in 1546, “Warning Against the Jews”2.

Finally, from the period 1700-1900, the interesting case of General Order No.11, issued by Major-General Ulysses S. Grant in 1862.

Each of these sources not only differ in time period, but also important context - a Catholic king as compared to a Protestant preacher as compared to a military man; from Spain, the Holy Roman Empire and the American Union (not being the United States at the time, given the civil war). All in all, a varied set of texts to dissect.

The proceeding paragraphs will deal with the provenance of the sources, discussion of same (primarily religious and economic, naturally) and finally concluding with a summary of the similar elements inherent in in each case.

Now follows the provenance of those three sources, set chronologically.

First, the Alhambra decree: A proclamation issued by the King of Aragon and the Queen of Castille in 1492. Also known as the Edict of Expulsion, the principle aim was rather self-explanatory; the removal of Jewish peoples from Iberia and all other Spanish territories. The wider historical context helps to place why the edict came about – In the same year the Reconquista was completed with the fall of Granada. Naturally this conflict of nearly eight centuries comprised a large part of Spanish identity and bred hostility toward non-Christians, especially considering the status of the Jews at this time; under Muslim rule they were accorded special status as “People of the Book” (the gist of it being that the Jewish god is considered the same as the Islamic) and allowed to thrive, understandably instilling the Christian Spaniards with a sense of injustice given their continued habitation of Iberia. 1492 marked the beginnings of Spanish promotion to the guardian of Catholic Christianity. The Alhambra Decree also marked the end of a previous plan; the Jewish Ghettoes established in 1480, and an Inquisition to monitor the same. After twelve years, said inquisition concluded that the ghettoes were not enough to stop Jewish influence on good Christians, thus influencing the creation of the Decree.


c024e7 No.34663

The second item was a sermon, written and spoken by Martin Luther in 1546, preached as one of four in Eisleben, shortly before his death. He referred to it as his “Final Warning Against the Jews”, being concerned in the main with religious conversion, expulsion of the unconverted, as well as highlighting the dangers of tolerance, specifically with reference to the passage “Should I permit anyone to be with me, who dishonors, blasphemes, and curses my Lord Christ, I make myself a partner in another’s sins”1, as the Jewish faith directly opposes Christianity it was quite a serious problem indeed, exacerbated by Protestand morals. In addition the sermon mentions economic matters, especially usury. Altogether it's a fiery speech which managed to influence quite a lot of German rulers, though never to the extent Luther espoused.

Finally, the curious case of Major-General Ulysses S. Grant's General Order No.11, a despatch concerned with protecting the Tennessee wool trade. It was issued on December 17th, 1862 to reinforce earlier proclamations of similar effect. As Commander of the Department of Tennessee, Grant was responsible not only for fighting the Civil War, but also managing economic affairs; the wool trade being one of the largest. His economic responsibilities were deeply resented, especially given how corrupt the affairs were. Thus, General Order No.11 was aimed at reducing illegal wool trading amongst unscrupulous merchants and officers (“every colonel, captain or quartermaster … [was] in a secret partnership with some operator in cotton.“) and the black market. Given that a great number of speculators and other gambling traders were Jewish -to the extent that one was able to proposition such a shady deal to Grant himself… Through the support of Grant's own father, no less – his despatches and the order itself makes particular reference to them (“cotton-speculators, Jews and other Vagrants having not honest means of support, except trading upon the miseries of their Country … will leave in twenty-four hours or they will be sent to duty in the trenches.2”). This case makes it particularly different from the previous two, not being at all religiously-minded, but totally economically focused.


c024e7 No.34664

Now follows discourse and dissection of each source and their effects, arranged in order of theme.

To begin with, I will expound upon the earlier-mentioned topic.

Religious Motivations

The Alhambra Decree and the Last Warning Against the Jews are united by their groundings, despite coming from enemy sects (which helps to lend credence to the statements both make); quotes of which both reveal religious strife between Christianity and Judaism:

“we are informed by the Inquisition and others that the great harm done to the Christians persists, and it continues because of the conversations and communications that they have with the Jews, such Jews trying by whatever manner to subvert our holy Catholic faith and trying to draw faithful Christians away from their beliefs.“ - the Decree, on apostasy (the denunciation of the Catholic faith).

“They are our public enemies. They do not stop blaspheming our Lord Christ, calling the Virgin Mary a whore, Christ, a bastard, and us changelings or abortions (Mahlkälber: "meal calves"1). If they could kill us all, they would gladly do it.“ - Martin Luther on the Jewish religion (His discontent stems from the denial of the Christian faith by the Jewish – they do not recognise Jesus Christ as a prophet or part of the holy trinity of God, as worshipping whom they saw as a man is against Jewish tenets – therefore the legitimacy of Christianity is destroyed in their eyes)

This sowing of religious contention and strife was all the more important given the periods they come from; from without, in the 15th century Spain already had to contend with the Muslims and the German Protestants in the 16th their Catholic opposition, making dissent from within a major cause for concern, given the weakening effect of balkanisation further division would bring.

The desire for cohesion was paramount for all, though the ultimate reasoning differs: the monarchs of Aragon and Castille required to establish the ultra-Catholic ideals that would come to personify Spain, as well as maintain the controlling effect centralised religious institutions create; extremely important in the more recently reconquered southern areas of the peninsula.

For Martin Luther and the Protestant movement in the Holy Roman Empire that sense of cohesion was all the more important given the new status of that Christian sect; directly opposed by all other faiths and divisions, each convert hard-won and immeasurably more valuable to the cause that to the Catholic, given the relatively smaller number of the younger movement.

There's not much to link Ulysses S. Grant to the topic of religion, save perhaps the Jewish attitudes to commerce which were likely a factor of their prevalence in areas of illegality or immorality when it came to the Tennessee cotton-wool trade.


c024e7 No.34665

Economic Factors

“for the present we provide our assurance of royal protection and security so that, until the end of the month of July, they may sell and exchange their belongings and furniture and other items, and to dispose of them freely as they wish; and that during said time, no one is to do them harm or injury or injustice to their persons or to their goods, which is contrary to justice…” - Alhambra Decree, on fair expulsion. This shows that the monarchs and their advisers recognised the wealth and power of the settled Jewish. The Decree itself does not directly touch on economic matters, but the context will be explained forthwith.

“therefore, you who are lords should not permit them [to remain with us], but drive them away. However, if they are converted, abandon their usury, and receive Christ, then we will willingly regard them our brothers. Otherwise, nothing will come of it, for they go too far.” - The Warning, directly referencing the greatest economic factor of the Jewry, usury. A perennial theme when looking at matters of anti-Semitism, born from Jewish attitudes toward the goyim and their laws.

“the Specie regulations of the Treasury Dept. have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and other unprincipled traders… I instructed the Commdg Officer at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews to come south, and frequently have had them expelled from the Dept. But they come in with their Carpet Sacks1 in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel any where… If not permitted to buy Cotton themselves they will act as agents for someone else who will be at a Military post, with a Treasury permit to receive Cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying gold.“ - Ulysses S. Grant explaining Order No.11 to the Secretary of War. Wartime trade and the notorious corruption of military quartermasters made for superb chances to profit from the strife.

A consistent factor when dealing with Jewish events in history is currency, or the acquisition thereof; from Cleansing of the Temple of money-lenders (dealing only in contemporary Jewish coinage for the pilgrims) to the modern-day incidents like George Soros, “The man who broke the Bank of England” in 1992 (“I'm also very concerned about my own role because the new anti-Semitism holds that the Jews rule the world… As an unintended consequence of my actions… I also contribute to that image.2”), economic matters are inextricably linked with Jewish matters.

In the case of the Alhambra Decree, it is likely that, given the deep ties with the Muslim occupation of Iberia, the Jews had little likeness for the Spanish Re-Conquerors, the resulting bad practice contributing to their poor public image. Indeed, after the Decree came into effect, most found their way to the Ottoman empire, whose Sultan Bayezid II had this to say: “You venture to call Ferdinand a wise ruler - he who has impoverished his own country and enriched mine!“ speaking of the great wealth the Jewish merchants brought to the Muslims.

Martin Luther, on the other hand, goes straight to the crux of the matter; usury:

“The Biblical law, in all dealings among Israelites, forbids all "increase" of the debt by reason of lapse of time or forbearance, be the rate of interest high or low, while it does not impose any limit in dealings between Israelites and Gentiles..3”

The above is Jewish biblical law, which essentially forbids loans with interest amongst Jews, but allows them to do whatever they like to gentiles, or goyim. Naturally this means the average money-lender can make an extremely good deal for himself and feel religiously secure while doing so, but at the cost of his reputation.

Finally, Grant's Order No.11 follows a similar vein:

“1. The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order.“ - poor business practices taken in pursuit of lucre. Note that Grant's emphasis on the Jewish does not mean all these illegal traders were of the Hebraic persuasion (apparently just the majority).


c024e7 No.34666

In conclusion, when it comes to Anti-Semitism through the ages, one can always find at least one of these two main causes; religious agitation or economic malpractice. Particularly in regards to the periods 500-1500 and 1500-1700, as the main occupation of European Jews during the middle ages were as money-lenders (and apparently slave-traders)1, and the religious strife that so characterised these eras, like the Crusades, Great Turkish War, Reconquista, the Religious Wars, Mongol invasions…

The essence of this history of Jewish persecution is naturally not black or white, all sides have justification for their actions, whether truthful or not, it makes no matter now. It is certainly the case that over the centuries anti-Semitism, racism, chauvinism and many other -isms beside have been practised for their own sake, rather than as grounded in the roots of usury, race-realism, gender differences and so on and so forth, but here's the rub; stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.

PRIMARY SOURCES

Translation of the Alhambra Decree https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Alhambra_decree

Translation of the Warning https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Warning_Against_the_Jews_(1546)

Order No.11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Order_No._11_(1862)#Text_of_Grant.27s_Order

Footnotes for additional information


c024e7 No.34667

Footnotes

1. English translation https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Alhambra_decree 02/12/2015

2. English translation https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Warning_Against_the_Jews_(1546) 02/12/2015

3. [1 Timothy 5:22]

4. General Order No.2, nine days before No.11

5. Somewhat similar to “Goyim”; referring to Non-Jews, equated the status of an animal or slave.

6. Carpet Bags or Sacks, fashionable rug suitcases of the 19th century.

7. 5th November 2003, part of a speech at a Jewish Forum in New York City.

8. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/ on Usury, 02/12/2015

9. Medieval Jewish Civilization: An Encyclopedia (Routledge Encyclopedias of the Middle Ages)


d04a57 No.34669

Very nice.


4ce98b No.34695

Pretty interesting, leaves a heavy /pol/ taste in my mouth, but that's to be expected.


5b9d3a No.34741

>>34657

Out of interest were these for school or university and did they come back with suspiciously low grades?

While I don't write things quite so blatantly /pol/ related I've noticed university-level essays will be marked more harshly if you disagree with the lecturer or even just annoy them. There are, of course, some exceptions to this rule but most staff here are of the Listen and Believe type.


e66591 No.34748

>>34741

Yeah, I wrote an essay at college that stated that the Montgomery Bus Boycott had little impact on the United States' black community and that MLK did not have as much influence as is portrayed now and my teacher told me to rewrite it. Ended up having to write about how amazing MLK was and the Montgomery Bus Boycott before being told that there wasn't enough balance; honestly, my first essay was balanced I just don't understand why stating your own historical perspective is seen as being wrong.


5b9d3a No.34749

>>34748

>Yeah, I wrote an essay at college that stated that the Montgomery Bus Boycott had little impact on the United States' black community and that MLK did not have as much influence as is portrayed now and my teacher told me to rewrite it. Ended up having to write about how amazing MLK was and the Montgomery Bus Boycott before being told that there wasn't enough balance; honestly, my first essay was balanced I just don't understand why stating your own historical perspective is seen as being wrong.

You should have just refused. I had a similar incident and eventually changed courses. I wasn't even a /pol/ack I just wrote an essay that was directly in conflict with the conclusions we were clearly supposed to reach.


e66591 No.34751

>>34749

>You should have just refused. I had a similar incident and eventually changed courses.

I was tempted but I was hanging on to the course anyway due to shitty results previously (read a question wrong in my exam lmao) so I had to stay on the course.

>I wasn't even a /pol/ack I just wrote an essay that was directly in conflict with the conclusions we were clearly supposed to reach.

If you get a leftist/liberal teacher then you're pretty fucked, I'm doing Germany 1914-1945 in History at the moment and my teacher is so anti-Nazi it's not even funny. I'm not saying I'm pro-Nazi but our class was, naturally, confused as to why the Nazis hated the Jews and she couldn't provide an answer, so I said it's likely because Spartacist leaders in Germany were of Jewish descent but she flat out said I was wrong. I mean…what?


0f39c3 No.34756

Oh boy. Reminds me of that time when I argued with my history teacher about NSDAP being left-wing. I ended up completely wrecking all her points, to which he replied "you're of course right, but we're supposed to learn that Nazis were right-wing".


5b9d3a No.34761

>>34751

>I was tempted but I was hanging on to the course anyway due to shitty results previously (read a question wrong in my exam lmao) so I had to stay on the course.

Honestly it's probably smarter to go with the flow anyway. I fucked myself over a fair bit by arguing with them.

>If you get a leftist/liberal teacher then you're pretty fucked, I'm doing Germany 1914-1945 in History at the moment and my teacher is so anti-Nazi it's not even funny. I'm not saying I'm pro-Nazi but our class was, naturally, confused as to why the Nazis hated the Jews and she couldn't provide an answer, so I said it's likely because Spartacist leaders in Germany were of Jewish descent but she flat out said I was wrong. I mean…what?

My breaking point was a unit on 'industrialisation' in which they compared the Soviet Union to the USA. Now the USA has flaws, of course, but this shit they were teaching basically said it was worthless while the Soviets under Stalin were fucking perfect.

>>34756

The largest historical misconception was that the NSDAP were classically right wing (or more specifically fascist). The real issue is academics not understand that the real working class is inherently national-socialist. They want pragmatic solutions for their family/people and nothing more (or less). This is not unreasonable and arguably pretty inevitable given the nature of humanity.

Marxist academics have never actually met/socialised with the working class they claim to represent and indeed idealise. This is key to understanding modern education, politics and media.


705a5d No.34763

>>34756

Now was it a he or a she?


705a5d No.34765

>>34751

Nother germ here, our history teacher openly said we all should read marx because thats the way to go if we wanna rebel against our parents.


e66591 No.34770

>>34761

>My breaking point was a unit on 'industrialisation' in which they compared the Soviet Union to the USA. Now the USA has flaws, of course, but this shit they were teaching basically said it was worthless while the Soviets under Stalin were fucking perfect.

Jesus, where do you live? Eastern Europe or Russia? The guy who taught me Russian History last year was funny, a Pro-Soviet Trotskyist but he took the piss out of himself because of it. We used to call him "Comrade" and shit like that, grouchy old man he was. Had to be one of the best and honest teachers I had, he ended up being fired because he created a trade union at our school and organised a number of teachers strikes. Despite being lefty, he was great so I guess it's luck of the draw.

>The largest historical misconception was that the NSDAP were classically right wing (or more specifically fascist). The real issue is academics not understand that the real working class is inherently national-socialist.

I haven't actually had this before because I've been taught that it was a leftist party until the Night of the Long Knives when Hitler wiped out the lefts in NSDAP, is this right?

>>34765

Please tell me he was joking.


705a5d No.34775

>>34770

He was dead serious.

Another time he told us-barely on the verge of shouting- that europe has literally produced 90% of all wars and violence in the whole of human history.

He was seemingly unable to talk about hitler without aping his speech patterns or attaching emotional statements to it like "Just imagine a hitler blinded by trenchgas! *waves his arms around as if he was searching for something* everybody would have laughed at him!"

He was a nice and capable teacher though, when it came to pre ww1 history.


f92db4 No.34776

>>34657

>rhodesia

>unironically

>>>/pol/


e66591 No.34777

>>34775

Oh Christ, he sounds so retarded man, I hate when personal bias impacts on someone's teaching ability.


0f39c3 No.34779

>>34763

she. my s key is broken and sometimes doesn't produce letter


0f39c3 No.34780

>>34775

>that europe has literally produced 90% of all wars and violence in the whole of human history.

that's what happens when you take an eurocentric view on history and are completely oblivious to the happenings that didn't involve europe tbh


705a5d No.34783

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>>34776

Why?

Seemed to be a quiete sucessful state in the history of southafrica.

Sure aparthy sucks royally and im not a fan of taking other peoples way of life in your hand without asking, but the predecessor, the matabele kingdom was imposed by a renegade branch of the zulu army against the will of the native shona people.

Wiki says:

"Mfecane (the crushing) is used primarily to refer to the period when Mzilikazi, a king of the Matabele, dominated the Transvaal. During his reign, roughly from 1826 to 1836, he ordered widespread killings and devastation to remove all opposition. He reorganised the territory to establish the new Ndebele order. The death toll has never been satisfactorily determined, but the whole region became nearly depopulated. Normal estimates for the death toll range from 1 million to 2 million."

A state that discriminates its subjects and establishes a new ethnic group with foreign culture in its mids but also elevates them into a state of modern living which was beyond the grasp of their ancestors is surely much better then the rule of a genocidal warlord who just kills them savagely for being of another tribe.

If I have the choice of living in a sci fie-chinese empire where ill never be able to get into a really high position but can practize my own culture subjugated under theirs, or being ethnically cleansed or getting converted into sunni-islam at gunpoint by northafrican colonialisers who drag quality of life down or wont change anything at all I choose the former.

Due to the fact that Simbabwe is a shithole today and hasnt improved /pol/s romantisation of the subject actually holds some ground.

>>34777

Im not angry at someone who drags a bit of bias in, because I think that its often impossible not to do so concerning such complicated and often personal matters as history or politics, but the amount of open bias he showed was comically high and irritating.

Then there was the priour history teacher who for some reason dedicated a whole hour in class to badmouthing patriotism and invited every student to speak out for being a world citizen unfazed by such foolish concepts as border.

This provoced a highly emotional nationalistic sperg out from my side and its kinda a miracle that this did not socially excluded myself from the rest of class for the rest of the year.

With teachers like this its understandable why one of our turks in class developed slowly into an islamic nazi who liked to refer to ottoman caliphs as "unser Führer" when talking about the sack of Byzantine in class.

If youre getting teached to hate the identity of your host-country you turn to the one of your parents.


5b9d3a No.34840

>>34770

>Jesus, where do you live? Eastern Europe or Russia?

The UK. 'Economic and Social History' is a course you should avoid at all costs. It also had quite literal feminist propaganda. We were told to compare an educated view from an academic on one side and a cherry-picked article from the Daily Mail on the other and both were presented as the standard views. The class was also taught by a woman with problem glasses and tumblr hair…

In my experience teachers from Eastern Europe are more likely to be reasonable with their views likely on account of having lived through all that shit.

>The guy who taught me Russian History last year was funny, a Pro-Soviet Trotskyist but he took the piss out of himself because of it. We used to call him "Comrade" and shit like that, grouchy old man he was. Had to be one of the best and honest teachers I had, he ended up being fired because he created a trade union at our school and organised a number of teachers strikes. Despite being lefty, he was great so I guess it's luck of the draw.

As long as they are open about their views and don't inject it into the teaching there's actually no problem. It's when they're quiet and subtle with their propaganda that there's an issue in my experience.

>I haven't actually had this before because I've been taught that it was a leftist party until the Night of the Long Knives when Hitler wiped out the lefts in NSDAP, is this right?

Fairly accurate yeh. Hitler and a few other higher ups still held some left-wing views but their need of the army (who were fairly conservative) kept them in check.

>>34775

>He was seemingly unable to talk about hitler without aping his speech patterns or attaching emotional statements to it like "Just imagine a hitler blinded by trenchgas! *waves his arms around as if he was searching for something* everybody would have laughed at him!"

One of my History teachers years back outright told another one that he spoke like Hitler. The old guy just didn't give a fuck.


e66591 No.34843

>>34783

>With teachers like this its understandable why one of our turks in class developed slowly into an islamic nazi who liked to refer to ottoman caliphs as "unser Führer" when talking about the sack of Byzantine in class.

Topkek.

>>34840

>The UK.

Hey, I'm UK fag too, Bristol.

>We were told to compare an educated view from an academic on one side and a cherry-picked article from the Daily Mail on the other and both were presented as the standard views. The class was also taught by a woman with problem glasses and tumblr hair…

Oh God, that sounds horrific, picking articles from the Daily Mail… comprehensive schooling, ay?

>In my experience teachers from Eastern Europe are more likely to be reasonable with their views likely on account of having lived through all that shit.

That's actually true, i find them a lot more down-to-earth.


5b9d3a No.34859

>>34843

>Oh God, that sounds horrific, picking articles from the Daily Mail… comprehensive schooling, ay?

This was actually a University course. Schools have much tighter rules on what they can and cannot teach outside of religion which gets some bullshit exemptions.

>That's actually true, i find them a lot more down-to-earth.

In the opposite style I've found Americans teaching in the UK to be rather overzealous with their views. Zeal of the convert and all that




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