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7f974e No.35685

The Korean War is a war that you never see anybody talk about and is often overshadowed by the war the US got into next, Vietnam. Why is that? My guess would be that nobody technically win or lost; NK tried invading SK and got pushed back, UN forces tried invading NK and got pushed back, and then finally the Chinese and NK tried invading SK again but got pushed back a second time, along with the fact that not much military equipment was "new"; it was mostly just WW2-era weapons (which for the most part was the last time they saw use, at least for US and UN forces.)

Also, discuss other "forgotten wars" that most people have no idea about (such as the Russo-Japan war).

a68c0b No.35686

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>>35685

well no one is even aware that the spanish civil war happenned because it was overshadowed by the dubya-dubya-deuce.

then there is the original cold war, the peleponessian war.

you dont hear much about the american invasion of cuba, outside of roosevelts part in it.

cant say ive ever heard anyone ever talk about them ones.


7f974e No.35687

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Also I'd highly recommend this documentary on the Korean War.


5c1a54 No.35691

>>35685

I'd say the Russian Civil War and the subsequent foreign invasions are overshadowed. Many of Britain's wars are overshadowed as well, such as the Pakistan, Boer and Crimean War.


b12472 No.35695

>>35686

I've heard a lot about the spanish civil war, no wonder since i live in spain, in fact there're some trenches near my house, some battles happened nearby too, one being sort of "funny" in a way, i don't know if the story is true though.


7f974e No.35698

>>35695

>one being sort of "funny" in a way

Explain.


07595e No.35701

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I think it's safe to say UN and US forces won the Korean war, but it wasn't total victory.

I think you're right that the Vietnam war overshadowed the Korean war, it gets looked back upon as the big post-WW2 war in the history books.

Dumpan Korean War Photos


07595e No.35702

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Pt 2


07595e No.35703

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Bonus timeline image


d93fa4 No.35705

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0034a7 No.35706

>>35685

>The Korean War is often overshadowed by the war the US got into next, Vietnam. Why is that?

> My guess would be that nobody technically win or lost;

I would agree with you. Also, isn't the 'war' not technically over yet? Just in a very long state of stalemate and seize-fire?

My Grandfather fought in Korea and he gave me his cold weather jacket when i was a kid; it's around here somewhere.


4cd88e No.35710

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>>35686

>that good feel when spain will never ever be relevant again


7f974e No.35716

>>35706

You'd be right. There's a ceasefire, but it never formally ended.


368383 No.35719

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Figured the allied intervention in the Soviet union (1918-1920) deserves some attention.

I mean fucking Reagan forgot it happened. (allegedly)


368383 No.35720

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>>35719

Short recap.

>After the October revolution Russia is split in two and immediately kick starts the Russian civil war and the Revolutionary wave (1917-1923) through out Europe

>The Bolsheviks sign the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk with Germany ending the Russian front and renouncement of Russia's claims on Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania. (See how long that last)

>Now with one less (huge) enemy Germany is free to spread it's Hegemony through out the east. And press the allies to the West.

>The Allies still at war with Germany starts supporting newly born independence forces against the Baltische Landeswehr, West Russian Volunteer Army and The Red forces.

>The Allies see the Bolsheviks as a threat and seeing that they have donated a lot of munitions to the Russian state during WW1 they feared that most of it will get in Bolshevik hands.

>In the end The Allies decide to intervene in the Civil war not only to reclaim their munitions but to liberate the Czechoslovak Legion who's been trapped in the trans-Siberian railway behind enemy lines. (the Czechoslovak Legion was a volunteer group setup by the Russian state during WW1 later on when Czechoslovakia became independent (1918) the legion became a part of the Czech armed forces and fought on the side of the allies)

>The allies composed of France, Italy, the UK, USA, Japan and China and more, take Vladivostok and later parts of Siberia and Murmansk in support of the White-Russians.

>November comes and WW1 ends but pro-German forces fight on in the east until 1920

>Despite end of the great war, the intervention doesn't get reinforcements.

>The allies stand face to face against the Red army.

>Skirmishes turn into fierce and intense battles in the snow.

>Faulty equipment, set backs and the fact that people at home forgot why the allies were there in the first place hunts the allies.

>The whole thing is a mess, at one point British forces recruited former Red Finns (Murmansk Legion) who refused to fight the Bolsheviks and instead butted heads with the invading White Finns who were keen on liberating their Karelian and Ingria "kin" who fought off the White Finns but later rebelled against the Reds with White Finns support but failed to secure independence, this was called the Heimosodat or The Kinship wars.

>Getting tired of war the allies start to pull out of Russia

>By 1920 most of the allied powers have left Russia, including the Czech legion

>Japan keeps fighting until pulling out of the east in 1922

>Most of the munitions and guns the allies sent out to reclaim stay in Russia, along with some tanks.

>The Russian Whites are eventually defeated and the Soviet union is established.

Fuck.


368383 No.35721

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>>35685

Had these for a while now.

1. Australian soldier on his post unknown location Korea

2. Gi Machine gun nest unknown location in Korea.

3, Ethiopian soldiers unknown location Korea.

4. Marines Seoul? Inchon? firing at NK snipers.


07595e No.35724

>>35719

>>35720

>>35721

I'm a sucker for the US Soldier aesthetic


af6220 No.35725

>>35698

Basically the franquist forces were defending a hill i've been there and i can see it from my window called kolitze in the basque country, it was a heavy fog day and the "moors" spanish african army didn't know the terrain, so the republican forces pushed them up the south side of the hill, what the "moors" didn't know was that the north side has a ridge with a pretty big fall and since it was foggy they didn't see it on time, so apparently a bunch of them fell and died.


0034a7 No.35726

>>35724

Same here. I don't like how it's changed. I understand the necessity for the changes, and I guess it looks 'cool', but they went downhill after 1979; late1800's - 1979 was best period; my favorite being early 1900's pre-WWI and post-WWI but pre-WWII.

http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf


7f974e No.35730

>>35725

So like lemmings?


11f379 No.35732

>>35686

Peloponnesian wars are hilarious. The back and forth and the eventual futility of it all, not to mention how standoffish and cold Sparta was the whole time. My favorite part is when Persia invades and Sparta just sits around because "a warrior society needs a vacation sometimes, goddamn" ~Spartan Leadership


326001 No.35733

>>35732

>not to mention how standoffish and cold Sparta was the whole time

Like an autistic /fit/izen in a gym.


cd870c No.35734

>>35706

Well it wasn't technically a war because it was never declared by the U.S., it just happened to lead the UN forces (which the majority were U.S. servicemen). No peace treaty has ever been signed. Damn Chinese had to get involved and cause all that progress to be lost.

It's a shame Korean vets are always overlooked.


d96f42 No.35738

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>>35685

>The Transnistrian war

>Moldavia is predominantly Romanian but has a Russian (Slavic) large minority

>Soviet Union falls

>Moldavia becomes independent

>Russian minorities do not want this

>civil war for a whole summer

>Remainments of the Soviet army in Moldavia, Russian cossacks, Ukrainian volunteers vs Moldavian army and Romanian army

It's pretty neat


d96f42 No.35739

>>35719

>>35720

I love how, when the Russian government fell, all these small but yet organized governments sprung up. It shows how fragile yet also unimaginably unified Russia is. I visited the country two times because I have a Russian girlfriend.

The Cossacks keep stealing my heart, and the white government too.


0034a7 No.35740

>>35734

>Well it wasn't technically a war because it was never declared by the U.S

yes; that's why i put war in ' ' quotation marks; technically it was a military conflict.

>It's a shame Korean vets are always overlooked.

It is. But when a coalition of nations goes to war, each nation tends to mourn/remember the deaths of their fellow countrymen more than the death of an allied nations soldiers.


cd870c No.35760

>>35740

I meant like the U.S. ones that get overlooked here in the states, you never really hear their story.

Did your Grandfather ever talk about it? Like where he was at and any other stories or did he prefer not to think about it?


0034a7 No.35774

>>35760

>Did your Grandfather ever talk about it? Like where he was at and any other stories or did he prefer not to think about it?

He died when I was only 7-10 years old, the only time he talked about it was when he gave me his jacket; he said it was, "so goddamned cold", when i asked what the war was like.

He did, however, tell me a lot about fighting in the pacific in WWII; like how he had to go to Hiroshima to help clean up all the dead, and how the Japanese would cut up U.S soldiers and put their heads on pikes, even their whole bodies on pikes, so the looked like they were crucified; he really hated the japanese. Looking back I find it really strange he would tell a 7-10yrold about that stuff in detail.


78fa7b No.35801

>>35739

You know there's a Monarchist Party in the Russian parliament? Really interesting, the Monarchist Party supports a descendant of Nicholas' cousin while there's another branch who call themselves the rightful heirs. Also the son of the woman who says she is the rightful heir looks exactly like Nicholas if he was a big guy (for Russia)


cd870c No.35837

>>35774

Maybe he thought you could handle it? I couldn't imagine dealing with the bodies after the a-bomb.




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