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Stop trying to start shit with other boards. Next time I see someone go "HAHA LOOK AT THIS /pol/ THREAD THEY'RE SO DUMB", they're getting slapped.

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213040 No.36215

Hi /his, I come from /pol/, and sometimes I think they get a bit LARPy on there with their own version of the "WE WUZ KANGZ" shit. For example they claim that the Sumerians and the Egyptian nobility were of European stock - at first I laughed it off but then they posted some interesting things that at least warrant investigation. So what are your thoughts on this stuff? Is there any merit to any of it?

213040 No.36216

More of their claims

https://imgur.com/a/tPZ0z


53fdaa No.36219

From what I understand, the Middle East used to be whiter before the Arab conquests. That doesn't mean that we was kings, but that there's probably a fairly decent amount of truth to those kinds of ideas. That doesn't mean that the ancient Egyptians were all full on Nordic or anything, though. I think the blue eyes in ancient art of this type were often symbolic.

I know they're getting a lot of their ideas from stuff like March of the Titans (considered a pseudohistory work from what I understand– how much substance there is to those claims, I don't know), and considering how the first .jpg tries to pass of Yuya as being the Biblical Joseph (which isn't an accepted belief in Egyptology), I wouldn't put much stock in these images.

Having said all that, I really don't know much about the topic.


70414f No.36220

File: 1458666158188-0.jpg (64.78 KB, 446x256, 223:128, Sumerian brownis..jpg)

File: 1458666158238-1.jpg (18.96 KB, 400x599, 400:599, sumerianCouple.jpg)

The sumerians may have just used the blue stone because it looked dank, theyve got other depictions of themselves as well after all and I remember having read that "Sumerian" meant something like "blackhead" which would indicate their haircolour without question at least.

>>36219

From what I understand the Middleeasteners had more ethnics back then with europid appearance, but were not equal to the populations living in actual europe by default.

More like protoeuropeans or something like that.


3cfbf6 No.36221

File: 1458667785701.jpg (34.5 KB, 480x720, 2:3, 100% aryan.jpg)

>first pic

The Egyptian skull looks more like the African than the European one IMO, but I'm no anthropologist.

Also

>if blonde hair… why blue eyes?

Uhm, non sequitur. And even those same cherrypicked statues have dark hair.

>Yuya (Biblical Joseph)

The Biblical Joseph was (wait for it) a Jew. What the hell does that prove about Egyptians? And I seriously doubt that mummy is his.

>Nefertiti

She looks Asian tbqh.

>second pic

Again "look, they were blonde" with dark-haired statues. Made by the ones who called themselves "black heads" if I'm not mistaken. And those are just pretty blue stones. Nice unibrows though.

>the Sumerians are Caucasians

>t. guy quoted in a 100 year old work

No shit, everyone who's not Negroid or Mongoloid is. Semites, Hamites and Aryans are all Caucasians, for what it's worth.

>imgur link

The very first pic tries to link three kinds of structures, all wildly different in everything but vague shape, to, uhm, Aryan ayy lmaos?

Trashed.

Sorry man but this shit isn't very convincing. Try with evidence next time. Books, articles, not pics from the internet.


2d5424 No.36224

>>36215

>pic one

>which skull does it most resemble

If you ask me, of those three presented, it's actually most like the Asian one.


2d5424 No.36225

>>36219

>>36220

Oh and Egyptians themselves used red tones to paint themselves (which includes the priests and pharaohs), and also described peoples like Hyksos (who could've been related to Indo-Europeans) as pale-skinned. So Egyptians were most likely "bronze-skinned", perhaps a bit like the modern-day Khoi-San on the other side of Africa.


2d5424 No.36226

>>36215

>>36225

>Khoi-San

Actually the high cheekbones (called "caucasian facial structure") are a Khoi-San trait too.


9b29b9 No.36227

>>36215

Take this racist shit to

>>>/pol/


2d5424 No.36228

>>36227

Shut the fuck up. We're here to explain what's wrong with "this racist shit". People might actually learn something from the discussion.


e0ed2a No.36229

>>36216

This is pretty retarded, straight off the bat they're saying that Europeans created the pyramids just because they look similar… has it ever occurred to any of them that this is pretty common architecture and is relatively simple when considering other grand structures? Honestly, buildings with steps that have a point are not uncommon and it does not mean we share a common ancestor that inherently means we love to make pyramids.

Honestly, this sort of shit is pretty retarded, mate, the problem wit /pol/ is that they're naive enough to believe something they read in an infographic without actually researching the topic. In my opinion, you should leave it because it's simply trash.

>>36227

Fuck off, this guy is asking a question and we are answering it, if nobody questioned anything then we would just be mindless idiots. You should praise this guy for bringing this shit here to be ripped apart rather than believing it and using it as "evidence" as to how Europeans are the creators of everything everywhere.


e0ed2a No.36230

By the way, OP, all of this "niggers are inferior", "Jews rule the world" and "the holocaust never happened" all started off as memes on /pol/, newfags came in and started believing and now pretty much all of /pol/ unironicly post about all this shit.


2d5424 No.36231

>pyramids … has it ever occurred to any of them that this is pretty common architecture and is relatively simple when considering other grand structures?

the best part about the pyramids is that unlike other more "phallic" grand structures they cannot tip over. Also, the angle of repose (the maximum slope angle that can be supported on a pile of loose material) is around 40° for most common materials (from sand to flour), so any guy with half a wit will know that building a big pile is the most secure way for making a monumental structure…


2d5424 No.36232

>>36231

whoops didn't mean to sage this


e0ed2a No.36233

>>36216

The last point on this is retarded, since when was a spiral or a swastika an aryan symbol?


adba97 No.36236

>>36233

since forever and to answer your other post they always believed it for the most part but it was more about Thumbing their noses like edgy teenagers but they stopped being edgy.


57f733 No.36237

>>36215

Others have already explained why these specific claims are on extremely shaky ground at best, so I'll just add that almost anytime /pol/ claims something that drastically contradicts commonly accepted history, they are engaging in some egregious bullshit cherry-picking. Like the image of the New York Times posting a half-dozen different calamities befalling "six million Jews" before the holocaust supposedly proving that the holocaust was just the latest in a long line of hoaxes, which revolved around six million for numerological reasons. It turns out that articles involving tragedies befalling four million Jews or seven million Jews or almost any other number of millions of Jews are just as common. The Jewish people did not generally have a good time in the first half of the 20th century and America really likes millions. The default dream of the average American was to become a millionaire (before inflation made a million dollars an actually kind of small amount of money so far as lifetime achievements go, so now we're in this weird spot where "billionaire" is a pipe dream but "millionaire," while still a difficult achievement, is still a very low starting point for a guy in his twenties trying to find the limit of his capabilities).


e0ed2a No.36240

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>>36236

>since forever

Tell me more about how a spiral is only limited to European people, that sort of bullshit does sound incredibly fascinating. It's funny how literally no other civilisation figured that you could draw a spiral… oh wait they did, perhaps because this is an incredibly simple shape to make? Or maybe lets go with your view that only people with European descent can draw a spiral.

Oh, here's some evidence that proves you're right about the swastika! I guess every civilisation must have been white because they could draw this very simple shape!

>>36237

>they are engaging in some egregious bullshit cherry-picking.

Pretty much this.


3cfbf6 No.36243

>>36227

>racist

Wew. Where do you think you are?


d6ea75 No.36245

Why does /pol/ keep posting here, don't they know what we think of them by now?


4a3aab No.36247

>>36240

The swastika is actually a symbol associated with indo-europeans though.


16203d No.36248

>>36229

>that they're naive enough to believe something they read in an infographic without actually researching the topic

Nah, m8, I actually researched the holocaust when I read those infographics that raised some interesting questions.

>>36230

>"niggers are inferior", "Jews rule the world" and "the holocaust never happened"

All true, more or less.

>all started off as memes on /pol/

I've heard the Hitler stuff started on /b/ because of edginess and the userbase of /pol/ kept finding coincidences that eventually led to the ironic fact of it being true. Hell, that the press(es) in Austria were owned by Jews was noted by an eminent history professor in the 1880s.

>>36237

>still believes in fairy tales

>>36245

You do realize no one gives a shit what you think, right?

As for the topic at hand, thinking that Europeans were involved in the creation in civilizations, such as Egypt and others, is rather absurd. It would be more accurate to say they were Caucasoid but not Europoid. Probably Semitoids, if I were to neologize.


2d5424 No.36250

>>36247

Yes, it was one of the symbols they used.


53fdaa No.36255

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>>36230

Everyone seems to forget that, and neo/pol/acks get butthurt when you point it out. At least the first two are basically true, though.

>>36248

There are no serious arguments against the historicity of the Holocaust. Most of them boil down to red herrings ("the Jews control the media, therefore they made up the Holocaust," "Jews profit from it, therefore it never happened," false equivalencies in general, etc.), straw man arguments (usually something like "the idea that six million were gassed/cremated is ridiculous" or implications that human lampshades or industrial scale human soap production are considered factual by mainstream historians), and post-hoc rationalizations (assertions that x piece of evidence was fabricated, despite their being no evidence to support their claims).

TL;DR: Holocaust denial is pure cancer and only good for trolling.


7cec40 No.36257

>>36227

>>36245

Probably the first new poster on /his/ in months and you faggots try to drive him away.

Have fun in this stagnant shithole of a board. /his/ could have been great. Too bad the mods were such cucks in its early days. /pol/ has better history threads than this board.


f0c73e No.36258

>>36243

In /his/, not in /pol/


16203d No.36259

>>36255

>no serious arguments FOR the historicity of the Holocaust.

FTFY

>Most of them boil down to red herrings

No, they don't. There is plenty of evidence that disproves it.

>("the Jews control the media, therefore they made up the Holocaust,"

That's true, though. Again, check out "The Jewish Question" (1891) by Goldwin Smith for some evidence substantiating that and a passage in Hitler's Mein Kampf.

Here: https://archive.org/stream/sermonsandaddres00golluoft#page/n245/mode/2up

>"Jews profit from it, therefore it never happened," false equivalencies in general, etc.)

First part, true; second part, true, except for "therefore" and its implication.

>the idea that six million were gassed/cremated is ridiculous

Well, it is because it isn't possible, esp. on the capacity of the crematoria and the number they had and the inefficiency of it all.

>ssertions that x piece of evidence was fabricated, despite their being no evidence to support their claims).

I can't recall any of those. And you know this how? How do you know if the evidence isn't supported if you haven't actually looked at their arguments, which I'm sure you haven't because the ones that you have posted are shit.

>implications that human lampshades or industrial scale human soap production are considered factual by mainstream historians

Those are used because they reveal the ridiculousness of it all. You have people believing in those things and in gas chambers, and those turned out to be false, so it is reasonable to assume that the gas chambers are false. They're more in jokes than serious arguments anyway.

Hell, I rekt one of you retards who posted something from Shermer (?Sherman) who himself made a claim about ausrotten and Ausrottung that I btfo out; then the fucker never responded. I think it's you because your using the same arguments Shermer had.

TL;DR: You suck at this and you're cancer.


cab4f7 No.36264

>>36257

if hes such a ninny that two posts scares him off a board, he shouldnt be on the internet in the first place.


28a414 No.36266

>>36227

>>36245

> what we

who is this we, kemosabe

I've been for a while pondering if there's someone boredly trying to specifically cause conflict between the boards. Going to the meta thread to go HAHAHA LOOK LOOK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY HAHAHA SO DUMB and linking there, etc.

For the record, don't see anything wrong with this thread. Can anyone point to me what exactly in the rules or guidelines would point this thread and/or OP to be kicked out?


28a414 No.36267

That said,

>>36259

>>36255

There's a thread for this already.

>>14747


6e43e3 No.36268

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>>36215

The Blue-eyes on the statues is kinda cheesy, but yeah, almost every Ancient Civilisation you heard on your history class when your were at school was Indo-European.

With them, came the Semites - nomad goat shepherds who sucked Indo-Europeans. They eventually outnumbered them and learned their technology.

Read

March of the Titans, by Arthur Kemp

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=1476E03A55E07C9A92C6BF4912BD907B

He explains a lot more better. You can trace the Indo-Europeans by their Art, their Language and their Culture.


90c888 No.36270

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>Look at this picture, what does it resemble?

>Just by looking

I'd fail your thesis defense right off the bat, anon. That is unscientific and pretty susceptible to your own bias.

It's as scientific and objective as this video.

>>36237

>egregious bullshit cherry-picking

Pretty much.


3cfbf6 No.36271

File: 1458780631350.jpg (61.73 KB, 425x525, 17:21, smug sumerian.jpg)

>>36268

>almost every Ancient Civilisation you heard on your history class when your were at school was Indo-European

Do you realize "Indo-European" is a linguistic classification? Sumerians, Akkadians, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Minoans, Chinese etc. etc. are by definition not Indo-European.

At the time when the Yamna culture began the seeds of civilization in the Nile valley and Mesopotamia had already been planted.

>march of the titans

From one of the sample chapters on its website:

>It is very likely that the word “man” originated with Menes.

Ebin, but I don't see how can anyone take this book seriously.


16203d No.36276

>>36266

>I've been for a while pondering if there's someone boredly trying to specifically cause conflict between the boards. Going to the meta thread to go HAHAHA LOOK LOOK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY HAHAHA SO DUMB and linking there, etc.

It's many people from /leftypol/, who comprise a number of your posters and get absolutely rectally ravaged by anything /pol/-related because they can't stand arguing with /pol/ and had to set up their own board like pansies.


bd615a No.36278

>>36276

d6ea75 here, I've been here from the start and I don't think anyone here actually browses /leftypol/. If you wanna discuss we wuz aryan shit, take it to your containment board.


28a414 No.36279

>>36278

If you want to reject open attempts at Historical discussion (re-read the OP, it's straight out "do you think this is right? Wrong? What's your opinion" instead of "WE WUZ ARYAN FUCK YOU IF YOU DISAGREE"), take it to the meta thread to complain about moderation and the board culture or whatever. Right now, you're the one shitting the thread.


cc3403 No.36284

>>36268

>almost every ancient civilization you learn at school was indo-european

>what is shang dynasty

>what is mohenjodaro-harappa

Also, look at mohenjodaro-harappa, they have sewage system in their cities. Look what noble aryan/indo-european did to them. Poo in the Loo.


9215b4 No.36286

File: 1458831364689.jpg (139.92 KB, 728x1044, 182:261, johj.jpg)

>/pol/ ridicules Blacks for the "We wuz kangz" shit

>Then promptly sputters "No, WE wuz kangz!"

I know that board went down the gutter after the second exodus, but this is just sad.

As for the Sumerian statues - the Sumerian clearly were stark black, cf. pic related.


b5ff6f No.36287

>>36286

>/pol/ is one person


0fa984 No.36288

>>36287

I like to think that it is just one guy rambling to himself about niggers and kikes.


e0ed2a No.36289

>>36288

hahahahaha, just sitting in a room resetting his router constantly




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