No.1173
So I really like haven't talked about Homestuck with anyone in like 2 years, not just because it has become an incredibly embarrassing topic to bring up but because frankly there is no actual place to have an old fashioned semi-rational conversation about it like the ones we used to have on halfchan's /co/ back before the Cascade hiatus made the fandom take a monumental nosedive into shit
So seeing as most of the people that come to this website are generally sick of the shit of other sites it perhaps means that you are all not completely autismal and a conversation with critical fans that don't come straight outta the worst corner of tumblr and don't think everything about Homestuck is flawless can actually take place?
So what are your thoughts on Homestuck so far?
When did you start to follow it?
Has the fandom influenced the way you enjoy it positively or negatively?
Has it "jumped the shark" for you?, if so when do you think this happened?
Do you think the drop in quality has been more gradual?, if so share with us where do you think it started going downhill
Do you think it's still as great as the moment you started following it?
Do you think it's not as good but still great?
So yeah, just get any thoughtful commentary on the state of the comic that you want to get off your chest and try to keep the shipping and weird porn to the minimum
No.1181
I might as well be the first to build a fucking wall of text:
So I started following Homestuck halfway through 2010, some time around the beginning of Hivebent, I got to the top update precisely the day Feferi got introduced I think
I knew about Homestuck before that since I've read Problem Sleuth around 2009, though I didn't pay it much mind, it was a thread in 4chan's /co/ about Dave: Accelerate that initially piqued my interest, this is one of the first panels I ever saw, I remember I thought the comic was about a kid trapped in a weird bermuda triangle like dimension or some shit like that
No.1195
I recently got back into Homestuck after getting fatigued with it way back when Act 5 Act 2 was still occurring. I've had started reading it right after following through Problem Sleuth (still a masterpiece) all the way through. I loved John, Rose, Dave, and Jade from the get-go, and was diligently following it until Hivebent, and finding myself not being as interested with the trolls as these twelve new characters to recognize.
I've grown to warm up to the trolls, and later on the alpha kids, and I'm still intrigued where the comic will go next, but the beta kids still hold a special place in my heart, and I wonder what the comic would be like if they were the only main characters.
As for the fandom, if any and all Tumblr sperging about shipping/race/sexual orientation headcanons are forever eradicated, I would be much happier about it. As it is, there's some cool people around if you know where to look.
No.1198
i started reading homestuck around two days before the megapause.
i clicked the recent pages to see if the art style was the same all through the comic; and out of pure luck i clicked the panel in sprite mode with terezi and karkat; decided to read it anyway, nothing can be worse than the weaboo shit ive put up with.the comic was really funny all the way until i hit the end of act3 and i became hook'd.
after getting up to date with the comic i found the fandom and i kind of put up with it since i hadnt had any interactions with SJW up till then, but now and then i could feel myself cringe at the shit people posted. it wasnt until earlier this year that i got feed up with tumblr.
the fandom is kind of neat when theyre not being a bunch of autists. i learned a bunch of things about art and storytelling reading the comic and somethings in the fandom. i still browse some tags from time to time.
i still greatly enjoy homestuck, and i dont really feel a downgrade in the comic. but that may be because i started reading relatively recently. but i really dont think its worth going into the fandom.
No.1200
>>1195i know this feel
Homestuck should have just been the kids vs Jack
No.1201
I started reading right around when Problem Sleuth was starting the boss fight, and I kept up with Homestuck after that was over until around the time the trolls started getting introduced, and then I sort of felt too confused and stopped until like a year and a half ago, when I decided to give it another shot.
I like what it is now, and Hussie's a good writer and all, but I liked the story a lot more in the early acts, when it was about kids fucking around with obtuse inventory systems and narrowly avoiding death as a result of poorly-explained game mechanics. All the philosophical shit is okay, but Problem Sleuth/early Homestuck was just more fun for me.
No.1202
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I've been reading homosuck for four years now, about 2/3 of it life i think.
holy shit yes the fandom has made me so sad. i really wish i knew people that were into this comic that also had some kind of other life. i actually did make about a dozen friends over the years at cons and meetups that stayed my friends because theyre cool people who happen to like a weird webcomic.
no, i don't really feel like it has jumped the shark, the comic still flows and feels good. i am very glad that it is ending though. if it kept going i would stop reading out of disgust probably. but yeah i think it has actually held up pretty well. i do not like the middle schoolers who try to related to me through it. its really weird. (university student here)
when i started reading the comic was at a point of unfolding right in flesh of A5. i feel like everything sort of panned out slowly and nicely. however the introduction of the A2 kids was fucking awful. pretty slow and it was a lot better once they entered their session.
i think the bullshit john is doing at the moment with the hopping is pretty uneventful. i think he should just fix this shit fast so i can read huge walls of text with a bunch of characters talking at once.
No.1203
>>1200i feel like he could have honestly explained bec's power with something comparatively simple and then excluded the trolls entirely, making the comic much shorter and contained.
however i dont think i would want it that way. even though it took over 5000 pages to get to this point, i felt like the characters really popped to life somewhere around "I'm putting you on speaker crab." For me, that moment, years after starting the comic, is when it became about a bunch of kids doing something and not just some characters.
The ages of the characters are actually all lined up with me (i was literally born on the same day same year as Rose) so i identified very well as an adolescent.
j3gus walls of texting chrisk
No.1205
>>1203
>I'm putting you on speaker crab.Karkat is pretty awesome, gotta admit. He's always been my favourite troll.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004690This is probably the best conversation in the entire story, in my opinion.
No.1206
>>1205yeah that one is great too. i think i still like recent karkat more though. he's grown a lot and his broship with dave is just kind of adorable. i always felt like they could be good friends if they just got their mutual romantic interests out of the way. and it turns out that was exactly correct. i want another conversation like the one you listed, but with them just being glad not to be dying. it makes me sad that the end is neigh
No.1208
>>1202I made this video! :D
Sorry but that excites me. I appreciate your appreciation anon-chan!
No.1209
>>1208(different computer, different ID)
yeah i a friend of mine sent it to me and my immediate instinct was to sync it up with the flash and watch it that way.
made Game Over 1000% more "human baller"
No.1210
>>1209oh, same ID, weird.
No.1219
I knew about this fandom before the comic. But a good friend of mine recommended it to me and told me to steer clear from fucking autists. I can't remember when I hopped aboard the ride, just that the comic was captivating and interesting. So much shit going on, yet made sense somehow. It really dragged and trailed during the last intermissions before the recent updates (all the dead people and what not) and I anticipate the ending after reading what's done thrice over.
I just hope it doesn't end sad. We've been through so much ;_;
No.1221
Man I am on the fence with the Homestuck fandom it's torn between those really awesome people (who i've only ever really seen on reddit and here on /homestuck/) and those idiots who scream about Dave being white or some nonesese
No.1222
>>1221Really, I can get why people do this race headcanon shit, but on the other hand, all of the beta kids, at least, are based on various white people stereotypes, and making Dave black kinda misses the point about him
No.1228
>>1221i have a few great friends i met at a 4/13 meetup over a year and a half ago. some people i know from the fandom are actually awesome. however there are lot of stupid people online, yeah.
also i have met actual autistic kids at conventions who would follow me around because of my cosplay. wasn't good. ever.
so i guess there are extremes.
No.1236
Oh hell yes, a thread on good ol' general Homestuck discussion.
>So what are your thoughts on Homestuck so far?
It kind of blows my mind at how far it has come. We started with a young boy in his room and now we're jumping through time and altering the past to affect the doomed future. Like Problem Sleuth, it started as a light and silly romp and grew into this gigantic, bizarre monster of an adventure. Hussie is a creative genius and the artists/musicians that contribute are amazing at their work. Homestuck is so much more than a webcomic; it's kind of its very own genre and I don't think anything like it has existed previously.
>When did you start to follow it?
I began reading it in the middle of the Gigapause. I had wanted to read it previously to find out what all of the fuss was about, but my studies kept me busy. It wasn't until my teenaged sister got into it herself and recommended it to me that I dedicated a winter break to read it all.
>Has the fandom influenced the way you enjoy it positively or negatively?
I've learned to avoid the fandoms like the plague, so I've had very minimal contact with them. The only negative impact the Homestuck fandom had on my enjoyment was that, before I read it for myself, I was convinced that the story was nothing but romance and teen love and thus had no interest in it. You can imagine how pissed I was when I discovered that Homestuck had an amazing story and insane plot-points, and what little romance existed in the comic was mostly sarcastic.
>Has it "jumped the shark" for you?, if so when do you think this happened?
"Jumped the shark" isn't the word I want to use, just "lost its way". In my opinion, Act 6 was almost completely unnecessary. We didn't need new kids, we didn't need 12 new trolls, we didn't need new villains. Going from [S] Cascade to Act 6 was an extremely hard pill to swallow. But...Hussie has done this before, building something up, only to take it away, then to build it up again, so I've been sticking around to see what happens.
>Do you think it's still as great as the moment you started following it? Do you think it's not as good but still great?
Yes, it's still as great. But not for me, I suppose. A lot of the things that grabbed my attention in Homestuck--namely the gameplay mechanics and hilarious conversations between the players--have been pushed aside for typical character development. Not that character development didn't exist before, but it was mostly in witnessing how the characters interacted with each other and how they dealt with adversity. Lately, however, we've been getting glimpses into the characters' thoughts and aspirations and emotions. Which there's nothing wrong with, of course, but my beef with it is that I cannot relate to the characters at all (selfish reason, I know). The characters are teenagers and they certainly behave like real teenagers, but for someone that's pushing 30 I can't relate to that anymore. So when the story became mostly character-driven, my interest dwindled.
But hey, I'm still here. It's been one crazy ride.
I have some more questions/conversation-starters to add:
>What was the moment in the comic that made you turn from reader to fan? That moment that made you say to yourself, "Holy shit, I love this comic"?
>Favorite [S] and why?
No.1237
>>1236Loved Huss, watched homestuck front to back three times. But he gone FullNotch (avoiding #GamerGate all together without reasons) on this one so I don't know if SJW has successfully destroyed Honestuck from the inside or he is just too n00b to understand #GamerGate is with him. My bet is on the former but latter is...possible. I ain't optimistic that the last chapter is going to be as good the sixth. I just can't be optimistic for the moment.
No.1238
>>1236>What was the moment in the comic that made you turn from reader to fan? That moment that made you say to yourself, "Holy shit, I love this comic"?[S]Enter. with the build up from previous acts, i was on the edge, and then this little flash came and it blew me over.
>Favorite [S] and why?I think its a tie between [S]Wake and [S]Caliborn: Enter.
In [S]Wake, we see an extent of what jack is capable of, murdering characters and destroying stuff like it was noones business, then we get aradia godtiering, and then surprisingly holding jack back. And qe also get to see the conclusion of what was brewing between tavros and vriska, which was fucking awesome, and the point where shit started going down with the trolls.
In [S]Caliborn: Enter, we get to see caliborn and LE fucking shit up, and i love caliborn as a villain. I think thats about it.
No.1241
>>1236>Reader to fan?When I was originally catching up and I saw [S] Cascade
it was just such an epic conclusion to such an intense situation. From that point onward I knew this comic was my kind of deal.
>Favourite [S][S] Caliborn: Enter and [S] Game Over because they do an amazing job of making the characters look like they are part of the music. [S] Jade: Enter is pretty amazing too.
No.1248
>>1237You have to keep in mind that Huss is a videogame developer now.
No.1266
>>1248and therefore its trying to dodge all and any bullets from either side right? i think its a lot safer to be ignorant than join any side for both seem to have their share of vitreol
No.1292
>>1173>So what are your thoughts on Homestuck so far?I don't really... hm. It's pretty cool, obviously confusing, really interesting, and I don't get why the fandom says that they're trash for liking it.
>When did you start to follow it?Really recently, around February or March last year.
>Has the fandom influenced the way you enjoy it positively or negatively?Not really. I ignore the squealy morons and enjoy the fanart. Actually, the fanart has changed my opinion. I appreciate certain characters that I never really thought about before more, thanks to seeing accurate and well-made fanart that's somewhat thought-provoking.
>Has it "jumped the shark" for you?, if so when do you think this happened?Kind of. I'm not sure when.
>Do you think the drop in quality has been more gradual?, if so share with us where do you think it started going downhillNo idea. As I said before, I'm fairly new to Homestuck and haven't had time to really reflect on it. If I had to say, though, it's somewhere around when Caliborn entered. It got way too confusing and all over the place.
>Do you think it's still as great as the moment you started following it?I couldn't say. I don't tend to pay too much attention.
>Do you think it's not as good but still great?Yeah, pretty much sums up my thoughts.
Ooh, more questions? Sorry for the huge amount of text but
>What was the moment in the comic that made you turn from reader to fan? That moment that made you say to yourself, "Holy shit, I love this comic"?I can't quite place it. Definitely after Act 1... maybe somewhere slightly after Hivebent? Yeah, sounds about right.
>Favorite [S] and why?[S] Jade: Enter.
I really don't know why. The music was amazing, I had to rewatch it so many times to figure out what the fuck was going on, I really... it just... it felt so powerful and terrifying. Not to be clichéd.
No.1294
Read Problem Sleuth many years ago, started reading Homestuck when it first came out.
As everyone else says, almost all of the fandom is unbearable.
I still like the comic. The later acts definitely contain a lot of weak parts, but for whatever reason I have faith the story will pick up again and he'll tie it together with a good ending. He was able to do it with Problem Sleuth, and he should be able to do it here.
No.1303
I started properly reading homestuck around late 2012, I met some of my best friends who were in the fandom in october 2013, and got involved in a local community that began falling as the months went by in 2014, due to special snowflakes and some shit that happened with my friends, people being toxic shitcunts, now the community itself has died and the only things posted on the facebook page are shitty fantrolls that are nearly on mass production level by some of the same snowflakes, I've yet to see a phoenix rise from the ashes.
My favourite [S] would have to be [S]Game Over, not only do we get to see John remembering the basics of CQC, we got to see shit get fucked up on LOFAF
No.1356
>>1173techniclly am not a homestuck, didnt get much into chap 1. I followed some of the basics because its a source of dank memes, I knew of it before tumblr and most of the *chans knew of it (I was shocked at seeing a /tg/ thread on it back in what 2011? or so)
No.1357
>So what are your thoughts on Homestuck so far?
All things considered, I like it. I'm sticking with Homestuck until the end, and I'm going to follow whatever Hussie does after. I like his personality and his sense of humor, and I hope he comes back to interacting with the fanbase after homestuck is over and all the more cringeworthy fans leave assuming they ever do.
>When did you start to follow it?
One of my friends in high school bugged me about it for ages and I finally cracked around senior year. I tried once, and quit when I got to act 5 because I couldn't keep up with all the names. When I tried again, I powered through it easily. About a day or two after I finished [S] Intermission 2 was posted. Later, I'd go on to read all of Hussie's other comics.
>Has the fandom influenced the way you enjoy it positively or negatively?
It's been a mixed bag, really. I'm not sure I could give an honest answer to that. I'd say the tumblr fandom has been negative in this respect with all the deviantart-tier loons, social justice shits, and cringeworthy preteens. On the other hand, I'd say the halfchan/8chan side on the fanbase influenced me very positively. If it wasn't for all the theory posting between shitposting I'd seen and taken part in, I probably would have lost interest in Homestuck long ago. I have a huge need to theorize about stories and I love discussing the mechanics of the game and its universes, and nobody else ever seems to want to theorize. Tumblr is an awful place to theorize and my friends who are into Homestuck either only care about "muh shipping" or just don't care at all, so discussing the story on halfchan or 8chan is vital to my enjoyment.
>Has it "jumped the shark" for you?, if so when do you think this happened?
I wouldn't say it's jumped the shark, but my post Act 6 experience has been wildly different from my archival experience, and having read through the whole story over five times at various points (usually long hiatuses) I can definitely say without fear of nostalgia blinding me that there was been a huge shift in the tone and focus in the comic. I don't like the tumblr pandering, the focus on teen drama, or the story being more focused on characters talking about their feelings and current events while actual action is getting more scarce save for big flashes. These days, it feels like Hussie would rather inform us that something happened rather than show us. It deeply, DEEPLY disappointed me that we only got one flash to show us the Alpha kids playing sburb, especially because that was the part of act 6 I'd been anticipating the most.
>Do you think the drop in quality has been more gradual?, if so share with us where do you think it started going downhill
From what I've gleaned reading about the way things used to be and what I've seen from tumblr over the years, it seems that the teen drama with the trolls got taken super seriously and attracted a lot of people who are really into that type of thing, and Hussie decided to use the Alpha Kids to pander to people who eat it up. Action was put on the backburner, and months of story was told over years as the soap opera stretched the story out.
>Do you think it's still as great as the moment you started following it?
Absolutely not. If I had to describe my reaction to most of the updates these days, I'd say the attached gif is as close as I can get.
>Do you think it's not as good but still great?
All of that said, I still think homestuck is good. I'm still following it til the end. While I deeply miss all the worldbuilding and action, there's still a bit of Hussie's charm left in it, and Caliborn gives me hope. All my Act 6 whining aside, [S] Caliborn: Enter is my favorite flash in the whole comic, and Caliborn my favorite character. I've been cosplaying him in various conventions for years and I don't plan to stop until the story if over and maybe a while after, because I absolutely love him. He's the number one redeeming factor of the comic to me, and I can't WAIT to see his masterpiece. I just hope it isn't a disappointment.
No.1361
>>1358that nigger probably saw that someone ate his kfc or whatermelons
No.1363
No.1484
>So what are your thoughts on Homestuck so far?
It's been a pretty good ride, but I'm honestly not really feeling any of the current stuff anymore. I'm really attached to some of these characters, and I really loved it for what it was, but things are certainly not living up to my hopes any more and I am feeling really disappointed.
>When did you start to follow it?
Somewhere near the start of Act 5. I think it was Sollux's introduction, but I could be wrong.
>What was the moment in the comic that made you turn from reader to fan? That moment that made you say to yourself, "Holy shit, I love this comic"?
I really enjoyed it when Rose killed imps by dropping things on them, it was the kind of practical exploitation of the rules that always bothers me when it goes unused in media. However, I would have to say that seeing the timeline that spawned Davesprite and how Dave basically had to leave Rose to die was what hooked me in for good.
>Has the fandom influenced the way you enjoy it positively or negatively?
I eventually ended up joining Tumblr during the megapause, and Jesus Christ was it ever horrible. "Feferi is the bestest and if u dont like her you're hitler!" It was shitpost-tier content all the time, unless you just ignored any and all text posts and just looked at art.
Then there were the theorists that would pull stuff out of their asses despite it not holding up to basic scrutiny, but then saying "You're just too dumb to understand why I'm always right!" whenever someone shut them down.
On the bright side, over time I got to have a good laugh at some of the autists that legitimately thought the Class/Aspect system had real-life implications. (I.E. A Lord of Light will eventually rule all knowledge in the world. Yeah, someone legitimately believes that and tried oh so horribly to defend that crazy position.)
>Has it "jumped the shark" for you?, if so when do you think this happened?
Ever since the retcon happened I have found that 90% of character interactions seem like they're either forced, out of character, stale, shameless fandom pandering, a haphazard band-aid to tie up loose ends that Hussie didn't feel like seeing through, or any combination of those traits. Not to mention Davepetasprite, Jesus fucking Christ.
No.1485
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>>1484
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>Do you think the drop in quality has been more gradual?, if so share with us where do you think it started going downhill
I think things started gradually losing traction with the introduction of the alpha kids and the meteor trip.
Although I actually really like Dirk, Hussie already paused the story in order to introduce new characters, and it wasn't nearly as well executed this time around.
Putting the story on hold to introduce and then develop the four new kids was a real let down, especially considering characters we were invested in were finally meeting for the first time, simply to cut to some new kids we knew nothing about.
The pacing just got completely fucked at that point. Three years on the meteor passed by in just a handful of pages, months of things happened in the Alpha Kids' session and we barely saw any of it.
Nothing substantial really happened for most of Act 6. Considering that at this point almost all of the story was centered around character interactions, we barely even saw any characters interacting. Most of the time we just saw people mentioning vague events that had happened with little or no context, and then we were just supposed to take it all at face value. That really fucking frustrated me.
Then Hussie did his thing and provided more meta, making Calliope, Caliborn, and Trickster Mode as a bunch of jabs at the fandom. Calliope is the hugbox part of the fandom that makes pretty things and doesn't question why everything sucks! Caliborn is the group of "angry retards" in the fandom that can't handle a pause in the adventure for "good character development" and just complains about everything. Trickster Mode is what Caliborn would want where everyone just rushes through their feelings and fixes their problems so that the story can continue, in other words it was Hussie's way of saying "Be careful what you wish for you idiots, doing things your way makes for a shitty narrative, huehue!"
Now I know a lot of the problems I mentioned with the introduction of the Alphas could be said about the trolls. But the trolls had already been established characters. They were being expanded upon, and so you were interested in knowing why carcinoGeneticist was such an angry fucking cunt amongst other things. There was also the fact that the introduction of the trolls was set during a lull in the action where nothing too obvious was happening, and didn't cause a massive timeskip from the kids' perspective. Not to mention they were trolls, the novelty of an alien race and culture was interesting and refreshing.
The Alpha Kids had seen no foreshadowing other than Jade being penpals with Jake, which hardly justifies the long and drawn out introduction of these characters. They didn't have the novelty of a different world to explore (waterland where nothing exists other than droids that attack Dirk and Roxy doesn't count). On a personal note, two of the characters were irredeemably shitty too. Jane is "Hurrduur entitlement, my poor gentle heart I can't just say what I mean, all my friends and fmaily are idiots and not to be trusted because I'm the best." Then Jake is "Adventure! Blue girls! Lonely Island! Never speaking my mind! Ignoring the feelings of others! Shitty movies!"
Again, you could say similar things about the original kids, but the thing is, they started out as silly characters you weren't supposed to take seriously, and yet they were still likeable little runts. They evolved as time went on (except Jade, but I digress) but introducing flat, unlikeable characters into the story when Hussie's done his best to turn it into a serious, character driven narrative seriously doesn't do any good for the story.
I like the idea of the guardians playing their own session, but I just don't like how it was executed. I can't think of a particularly great way to do it, I'll admit, but that doesn't mean it makes the way it was done in any way good.
>Do you think it's still as great as the moment you started following it?
No, I think I've made it obvious that I can't stand recent developments. I'll wait and eventually read the ending, but I'm honestly not excited about it. I'll have to sate myself with fanfiction after slogging through loads of shit that still make the actual ending look bad by comparison.
No.1486
>>1485
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I actually forgot about the alpha trolls. I can't fucking stand that shit. The only relevant characters were Aranea and Meenah, and yet the pacing of the story was slowed to a mangled crawl in order to show us tiny glimpses of what these assholes did even though it's probably never going to be relevant, and if it is, it will be shoehorned in despite all logical reasoning.
He could have just said "alternate timeline, Mindfang and Condesce played SBurb with nameless losers. Here they are in kid form, and now they're going to do things!" Kurloz could possibly show up to talk to Gamzee for two minutes, whatever. Everything else was pointless.
No.1488
>>1486
i started reading somewhere near the end of the Gigapause, gave up after a about 20 pages and came back a few months later. for whatever reason, i stuck with it that time. honestly, my reader-to-fan moment was probably around the end of Act 1. if not that then DEFINITELY [S] WV: Ascend.
For whatever reason, I absolutely love everything about the early acts (1-4 and early in 5). After that, it all just sort of loses a bit of appeal. It doesn't give the same feeling as the early acts. maybe i should explain this a bit. when it comes to a looooot of things, i rely heavily on gut feeling. strange emotions i get when exposed to particular stimuli, that stubbornly and frustratingly refuse to acknowledge such silly things as language. i believe everyone gets them, at least sometimes, but it's just that nobody talks about them, since you can't really put words to them and nobody wants to sound like a crazy person. anyway, the early acts give one of these, while everything past about 1/4 of the way through Act 5 doesn't
but that's not to say i don't like them. i still really liked it all the way up until the alpha kids happened. THAT's when i really started questioning and growing concerned for the quality of the comic. but, at the very least i liked Roxy, and the new planets were cool, so i just rolled with it. i honestly didn't mind the alpha trolls much, just disliked the way some of the trolls reacted COUGHCOUGHTEREZICOUGH.
but once we got to the whole 'waiting for the big fight' thing, it just seems to drag oooon. the only reason i keep going back to check for an update, and really the only reason i'm going to read through to the end is that it's like an addiction. i can't get enthusiastic or excited about any of it anymore, except for when there's an update. even then i usually just come away disappointed. i don't really want to keep checking, or even really to finish it, but i simply can't just stop.
to be entirely honest, when i think about what homestuck was, and what it's become, i just get sad.
i look forward to the ending, if only to see what Hussie has planned. i think it could make a comeback if done right. the ending could make up for the gradual, but extreme decline. that's what i'm hoping for anyway.
basically a combination of >>1484 >>1485 >>1486 and the embed.
apologies for all the edgy horseshit scattered around my textwall
No.1489
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>>1488
goddamnit i forgot the embed