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f779f6 No.225[Reply]

This thread will be for anons to discuss the subject of /fit/ness. Post your fitness questions, fitness advice, fitness resources, and blog your fitness journey! Even if your achievements are modest, we will be here to give you moral support. Don't be a sad cunt; be a sick cunt! We're all gonna make it, brah.

I will start us off with the two infographs I have in my very lonely /fit/ folder.

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1f5670 No.296

>>294

I looked up warm ups and dynamic stretches, they seem like significantly more exercise than I'm able to handle before I've even got to the actual bodyweight part. They're running around and stuff too, that's not exactly something I can do in my bedroom. Does anyone really do all that?

>>295

>To eat more, I'd recommend more red meat and dairy

It's not like I don't eat red meat or dairy, I just don't think I could eat any more than I already do. I've tried before and it usually just ends in having a bad time on the toilet for several days.

>The most important thing isn't to pick the perfect program right off the bat, but just to get started doing something, you can adjust later.

I know that, I just don't want to do it wrong to the point where I give up because I'm too exhausted to keep it up and/or I end up in considerable pain, which is what I did the last two times.

>for a beginner I would recommend the gym

I'm not going to the gym, one of the two reasons I was trying to get into this kind of thing in the first place was that I have really bad anxiety with everything involving people or going to places of the house and I can't really do much out in the world on my own yet, and everyone online seemed to suggest that getting fit will help build confidence. The other reason was that I'm just sick of being weak and underweight.

I honestly hate all this diet and exercise stuff, it just overwhelms, frustrates, and depresses me.


721d53 No.297

>>296

It's definitely frustrating at first, especially if you can't quite do it yet, but remember that there's no rush and everyone here's rooting for you, take it at your own pace.

You've already started walking regularly yeah? That's an excellent start.

Also remember that results don't come overnight, it takes time, just keep at it and it'll get easier.

Avoid the gym for now if it'll make you super anxious.

If you want to start doing some lightweight lifting, you can get bottles and fill them with water, the rule of thumb is that a pint of fluid weighs one pound.

>"A pint's a pound the world around."

If you can afford it, you can pick up some used dumbbells off craigslist or something, I'll think about a good routine that you could do only with dumbbells or other one handed free weights and get back to you.

sorry this became a little disjointed and rambley


721d53 No.327

Still here if anyone has questions


e5b9af No.347

>>243

This. and this whole thread gmh

Consistency, loving yourself enough to give yourself an amount of effort day in and day out.


9a2fce No.373

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Here's my routine that I have been doing. If you are a beginner, just get into working out 5-6 days a week first, I would say spend a month or two getting into a schedule before starting this (I spent a year, but that's because I was learning, and learning from my mistakes as I went along).

Before I explain what the colors means, I want to first start by saying that you do not have to do the weight have listed, that's just where I feel comfortable right now and that given number of reps over a series of 3 sets.

Don't feel bad either, the weight I have listed for Bench Press for instance is below the strength of an average male. My squat is even weaker because I had a hard time trying to get the position right when first starting out. Work your way up and don't let that discourage you! Educate yourself, and always check resources to make sure you are doing things right. Even if you think you are, it never hurts to check again.

Blue Text = Weight (in pounds) to lift.

(Bracket Text) = How many reps to do.

Red text means that an exercise is more important than the others. I will mention right now that Squats are the most important exercise you can do above all else. If you don't feel like you can do a full work out, bare minimum do the red exercises.

Each exercise should take about 5 minutes to do.

Make sure you do stretches before and after you work out.

This is my Schedule:

xLUxLUx

I do Lower on Monday's and Thursdays, Upper on Tuesday's and Fridays, and I break every other day for recovery.

Next time, I will try to give some advice on the three types of diets: Cutting, Maintenance, and Bulking.



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16d882 No.349[Reply]

I saw this board advertised elsewhere, saw what I liked and figured I would post.

So I'm 25, Catholic, and unemployed. I also have no women in my life.

I've come to the conclusion recently that I am a NEET against my will. I've been mostly unemployed for the past 6 years (With a brief job for 5 months before being laid off) and have pretty much lost hope of ever finding work I can do. I can't do anything fast paced like a fast food restaurant since I'm just not equipped to handle that kind of work.

The school always told us that if we went to College/University, we would be making money and guaranteed a job, which turned out to be a lie since most young adults I run into are either unemployed or very underemployed if they are lucky enough to have a job.

I've also begun to notice that many places are hiring just women and not men. I started keep a tabs on the places I applied to and noticed almost all the people who got the jobs (or in once case, all the jobs) were women.

My mom complains because I won't mention I have a disability (Why would you put that on a resume anyway). I don't want to be defined by my disability. Once people know you have one, they treat you differently. She complains because I won't "swallow" my pride, because apparently in life, she had too.

I know she wants the best for me, and I'm thankful that she has let me live at home rent free since she (until recently) understood the job market is really bad. Here, this year we have lost an estimated 50,000 jobs. I just want to contribute and stop feeling like a mooch.

There are only two skills I'm good at. House Cleaning / Work a house wife would traditionally do, and programming. I didn't go to school for programming as I always saw it as a waste of time, and besides, school is too expensive. As for House Maintenance (or whatever you want to call it), I doubt anyone would want to marry someone who would become their house husband or would even consider that. *Shrugs*

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974364 No.351

>>350

Don't know if you've read the other threads, but many of us use tox to chat >>56

I've left my email in case you want to get in on that.

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35a0a1 No.352

>This is a big obstacle to your ever finding employment. I know it's easier said than done, but you just need to keep looking. I can offer you my encouragement, advice, and prayers, but you're the one that has to keep looking. Think of finding a job as your full time job.

>What kinds of jobs have you applied for?

I'm not going to stop trying, I've just lost hope at finding one is all. There are only so many places you can apply to, especially within the distance I'm able to travel.

I apply for anything I think I can do whether it be work in an office, or just someone who works as a cashier or stock person. Just upsetting when they turn you down to be a Janitor because you don't have 5 years of experience.

>Have you looked into the trades? If you can get an apprenticeship, it's a pretty sweet deal.

I'm not cut out for Trade work. I just don't have the skills or abilities that one would need to be in trade work.

>Also, if your area is losing a lot of jobs, you might need to look farther away

Problem is, I already live in a rather isolated place, the places within a few hours of travel are loosing just as much as here, and I've already been told by friends in Big cities it's not worth it to go there either.

Then there's the issue of you need money to be able to move, of which I have none. I also have no means of transportation.

>Think of it like this. You're 25, so naturally you should want to move out and be more independent.

Would love to move out personally. There is actually an issue with that too. If we ignore the fact that I have no job or money, there is actually a housing shortage here. My brother has being sleeping on a couch for over a year because there simply isn't any housing right now.

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974364 No.353

>>352

>I've just lost hope at finding one is all.

You'll feel a lot less motivated to find a job and put forth a good effort on applications if you don't expect to get one.

>Job shortage

>Housing shortage

>No transportation

That's a tough situation, brother. Well it sounds to me like you need to find a job far away, but that's hard with no transportation. There aren't cheap buses or trains that run to other areas around you? Also, as far as money for moving goes, that's why I'd recommend finding a job before you move somewhere, not moving somewhere and then looking for a job.

At this point I would recommend considering military enlistment, which is a great way for anyone to get out of your hometown and get some valuable experience, but idk if that's an option for you. (you mentioned you have a disability and sounds like maybe you don't do too well in high stress environments?)

>I do not look at porn, and I'm also doing NoFap on hard mode.

>reading, music, working out, chores, cooking

Wow, sounds like you're doing quite a bit for yourself. And that sounds eerily exactly like how I spend my free time (when I'm not in front of the computer). Out of curiosity, what instrument do you play?

>If you don't mind me asking, why do you not having any luck?

Eh, there are two parts I guess. One, similar to you, is that there's not really anyone around that I'm too interested in. A couple that I can maybe picture going out with, but no one about whom I think "I really wanna ask this girl out". Second thing would be general anxiety over talking to girls about that stuff. I've completely spilled my spaghetti in the past over that and not entirely sure I've gotten over it. I can talk to girls just fine, as long as it's not asking them out. Literally never been able to bring myself to do that even when I have been interested in a girl. So nowPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


c5eaa7 No.354

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Hey anon. I don't usually post as the board owner for non-administrative things, but it's been slow around here and I just wanted to say thanks for posting. I'd give you advice, but I am almost in the exact situation you are. One of the things I do to keep myself sane, as you put it, is to help out anons here on this board I made. Perhaps that's something you can do whenever you have a free moment? It's like volunteering, except online and among your own demographic. Maybe it'll give you some perspective on your own problems. It has for me. God bless.


637de8 No.355

>>354

Sounds like a plan to me. I've been trying to help people out on other boards on 8chan, and other sites in general too where I can.

>>353

I haven't forgotten about you, I just haven't had time to reply, just wanted to let you know.



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e66b95 No.209[Reply]

I've always longed to have a very best friend that I could share everything with, but I pushed away all of my friends when I was in highschool and isolated myself to just focus on my hobbies of anime and video games. I started making online friends, but I've grown apart even from them now. Online "friendships" just feel like a waste of time to me, and they're so fragile. It's so easy to just delete and block strangers you don't even really know when you get in a fight instead of trying to work through differences. Maybe it's cowardly to just delete friends like that but that's my situation now. I've totally cut myself off from everyone and now I'm a very lonely and friendless adult. I just want one really close friend who I can tell all my secrets to and experience that feeling of reciprocated closeness and caring with, but it seems like most people meet their best friends when they're kids. How can I make that kind of relationship with someone as an adult?

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37141b No.232

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A solution to some of your problem seems simple: stop deleting people. Learn to fight that urge, and you can hold onto the people you care about. Some of my most meaningful friendships have been with people I've met online. I still talk, daily when possible, to a group of people I've known for nearly a decade. Perhaps I'm evangelising my own bad habits here, but your situation reminds me of a couple of cool people that have randomly nuked me and others from their friends list in the past for seemingly no reason, which is a shame, because we had a lot in common.


51bec9 No.240

>>209

Go to the gym regularly. Work out. Meet people. Maybe make friends. Even if you don't make friends, working out is still pretty damn good for curing depression and insecurities. Go to >>>/fit/.

You'd be surprised what a difference good eating and exercise habits can make in your life. (Good eating habits in particular are massively underrated. You'd be amazed how fucking alive you can feel when you've been eating properly.)


e66b95 No.306

Thank you to everyone who posted. Sorry for the late reply, I just felt I had nothing new to contribute until today. I went to a screening of an anime movie in theaters today and met some nice people that I exchanged numbers with. I'm going to try really hard to be their friend and to keep them as friends. How do I into normal friendship? What do I even do with friends?


7659f8 No.312

>>306

Just do things that you like doing. Most friendships are based in common interests, and it sounds like you already have at least one.

Also, out of curiosity, what anime film was it?


750e10 No.343

>>220

I just wanted to say that your image is the onet time an "image macro maymay" has made me burst out laughing. Thank you.



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8e2cbb No.329[Reply]

Hello /hope/ first time poster, an anon recommended here from /b/.

I'm down in the dirt. Or at least it feels that way. I think it would be easier to screen shot the previous thread instead of typing it out.

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5da3f9 No.333

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>>329

Okay, awake now.

So, your problem seems to be that women are picking up on your anxiety about women. You said that it is difficult for you not to spill your guts around other people and you think they'd hate you if you don't - presumably because you think you have some flaws that are explained by your "baggage." Women are the social sex and easily pick up on things like this, if only subconsciously, and they don't find such traits attractive in men. Pic related. Let me clarify, however, that it is not your flaws that women dislike. It's your own anxiety about them. Women like confidence in men. If they even smell a whiff of fear or anxiety from you around them, they dry up like a riverbed in the Sahara.

My advice to you, friend, is no less effective for being timeless and cliche:

work on your own problems and insecurities and stop worrying about women. When you are able to become confident in yourself, they will come to you, because the corrollary to women being repelled by anxiety is that they are attracted like moths to a flame by confidence.

Now, if you'd like to talk about what it might be that is causing you such constant anxiety, we could begin working on your real problems. Your real problem is not that you can't land a woman. Don't worry about women right now.


8e2cbb No.334

>>333

Sure but idk where to talk about in this regard


8e2cbb No.335

I guess it's from living in a shell of a person, I always strived to be like both my older Chad brothers. But I'm a very introverted person and all I was was a ear for them. I had a speech impediment when I was younger but now it only comes out when I'm overly excited or frustrated. I fear failure even tho I play games such as dark souls where failure is built into the game. I fear that my life is a failure and whatever I want to spill out is only going to push ppl away, I might sound like a 15 year old when I say this but I am genuinely fascinated by edgy stuff. I'm slowly finding out I'm not as smart as I thought I was now that university is going to shit.


fefaf7 No.339

>>335

Well, you've already proven that you can succeed by how you've improved your speech impediment. Part of succeeding is believing that you can. It sounds cheesy and fake, but it's not. Going into something thinking that you'll fail makes it more likely to happen.

Don't be afraid to be yourself. Projecting some sort of shell or falsehood is a really tricky road. Sometimes you want to be more reserved than others, but creating a false persona and leading a double life is a lot worse than just being who you are. There's plenty of people in real life who don't like me because of who I am, and there's people who do like me. I would much rather have it like this than pretend to be someone I'm not to be more popular.

As far as the intelligence aspect. This happens to everyone. That's what university should be all about. I remember reading a quote from some doctor saying that he never felt more stupid than right after getting his Ph.D.

I guess the main thing I would say is just don't let everything drag you down. It's really easy to get into a negative feedback loop especially on the chans but breaking away from that will help you be more confident.


b24365 No.342

>>339

Thank you for the feedback, I talked with a friend over Skype and he helped me out a lot, I'm still having a hard time getting to class but at least suicidal thoughts have left mostly



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447b95 No.266[Reply]

I hope this is an okay place to post this, because with some level of understanding comes hope. if you don't like this, totally understand. don't bump my thread if you don't agree. peace.

to be sure everyone understands:

>I am Jewish

>I am Against Zionism

>I am Against Capitalism

>I am PRO Libertarian

447b95 No.267

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capitalism is technically "money" "ism" basically capitalism is in a way a religious belief in- and false idol worship of capital and/or currency.

capitalism as a system as a whole is simply a slightly better disguised version of "wage slavery" that has been designed from the ground up to be a system that is easily manipulated by those few people at the top who hold more money than everyone else in the world combined.

>The cure to BAD regulation is GOOD regulation, not NO regulation; that just leads to cartels and you're right back where you are now. Regulatory capture fools so many young libertarians into thinking that regulation itself is inherently bad when what you need is regulation to keep the free market free and break up cartels.

Of course the solution is without a doubt NOT anarchy, however:

>The solution to everyone finding loopholes in everything and breaking the rules by getting around all the rules

>is to make more rules

-

capitalism as a system itself is flawed. currency, money is flawed.


447b95 No.268

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>US will spend 43 million dollars on a gas station in the middle of nowhere in the desert in afghanistan

>$7000 coffee makers

>$600 toilet seats

>$37 for A screw

>$435 for a hammer

>$285 screwdriver

>$387 flat washer

>$469 wrench

>$214 flashlight,

>$437 tape measure

>$2,228 monkey wrench,

>$748 pair of duckbill pliers

>$74,165 aluminum ladder

>$659 ashtray

>$1,118.26 for a spare plastic cap for a navigator’s stool on a B-52 bomber (worth about two cents)

>Defense Accounting Finance Service writes $22 billion in checks every month

>Mark Krenik (pentagon officer) created a phony company and then billed himself $504,000. He had to repay the money, but was not sentenced to prison. Probation only, and a $495 fine. He told the federal judge that he did it because everyone else in his section was doing to the same, but he was not required to name names.

>Sgt. Robbie Miller convicted and sent to prison for stealing $1 million. would not have been caught but was involved in affairs with female co-workers. Agents say they got Miller when he was hauling evidence out of the office to burn it.

>Contractors were billing $300 a night hotel rooms, private jet flights, meals at five star restaurants and bar bills to the government.

>Air Force non-commissioned officers like Miller, who handle giant

accounts at Dayton, call any vendor account that is less than $100,000

“budget dust” and say it’s not worth the time or effort trying to

recover.

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bumping


447b95 No.311

thread bump



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e08f27 No.272[Reply]

What kinds of things do normal people do? Not "normal" as in chads and stacies with an IQ of 85 who make bad choices and will die from STDs and liver failure, but like actually happy normal people with a wife and kids and a house who are genuinely satisfied with their lives.

4c1704 No.273

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>>272

I live with normies, the happy kind with wives and kids and homes who are satisfied with their lives, and I can tell you that they spend most of their time socializing. That is to say, very few of their daily activities are solitary, and even when they are at work or around people they don't necessarily like all that much, they are talking and gossiping and arguing and sharing stories and bragging/complaining about their families, etc. For a happy normie, life is all about interacting with other people, not about solitary or anonymous pursuits. Even introverted normies (yes, they do exist) tend to order their lives around other people and gain a lot of happiness from the few good relationships and friendships they posess.

People like us, on the other hand, are just "different" in some way that prevents us from socializing normally. We still have the same need for it as a normie, and if we could overcome the mental and emotional obstacles in our way, we could even gain the same pleasure from social interaction. But as things usually stand, our forays into the social world are short and calculated, and we need time to recover from them. This is why we spend most of our time on our hobbies, alone.

That being said, that doesn't mean that we are worth less than them or that we are not capable of happiness. We just have a harder time fulfilling our need for interaction.


5539f2 No.289

>>273

>are just "different" in some way that prevents us from socializing normally

Most of the time this would be a disinterest in the completely mundane or just most things in total. The most important thing required from you to be able to talk with others is having a topic to share. If everything you do is centred around one or two things and you don't pay any attention to anything else you have nothing to say in most situations to begin with. And even if you can follow the conversation, it might be so pointless to you can't find the energy to talk.

But even so as you said yourself we are still human and mostly wish for some form of a happy social life. The truth is we are hipsters. We are think of ourselves as too cool for the plebs. We have quite high standards for friends. Might as well be dreaming about having a group of friends you can only find in some comedy and no one will ever be quite like that.


21e99f No.303

>>272

Most of their days are spent keeping things in order. This means constant cleaning, making minor repairs to their homes and vehicles, tending to their gardens, mowing their lawns, writing shopping lists, preparing meals, balancing their budgets, checking calendars to see whose birthdays or anniversaries are coming up, going to their childrens' school functions such as parent-teacher conferences and football games, catching up on office work at home, taking care of their aging parents, etc. They actually have very little downtime. Being a normie is exhausting.


e08f27 No.307

>>303

That sounds both awful and kind of nice. Probably better than being restless, bored, and irritable all the time as a shut in. Having infinite free time to watch anime stops being fun after a while and feels awful when it's your whole life.


21e99f No.309

>>307

Yeah, exactly. While having a bunch of tasks to get through each day can be tiresome and annoying (and normies do experience plenty of stress, but it's a different type of stress than NEETs feel) it also helps keep negative feelings like depression and boredom at bay. My parents are both in their 60s and retired, but they still work all day long at huge projects (they completely remodeled their kitchen, for example), because to them, the alternative–doing nothing–is unthinkable.



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9cb56d No.229[Reply]

Hey /hope/.

I've been down and out for the past month or so. I'm 31 years old, depressed, and currently testing the waters with different kinds of medication I'm taking. I don't know where to go with my life. I have enough college under my belt to be a junior, but the problem is that the last two semesters I've had to drop out due to mental breakdowns.

The mental breakdowns are a recurring thing, in fact. I had a job as a clerical assistant, and about every 3-4 weeks, I'd have one at work, and have to either suffer through it or try to exhaust myself until it goes away. One time I climbed down 22 stories of stairs, up 10, and back down 10 just to try to get rid of the jitters that were bothering me. I've quit a few jobs in the past cold turkey, simply because I was too down and out to go to work, or when I was at work, I would feel too melancholy to want to continue.

It all seems hopeless. I don't want to be stuck on disability for the rest of my life, but I don't know what to do with myself. Counselors I talk with seem to not have answers, either. They keep telling me to either find a job (I'm routinely too anxious to leave the house after this particular breakdown) or start a company (I'm in the hole several thousand dollars in debt due to college). Even if I did want to do these things, I'd spend the entire time waiting for the other shoe to drop, for my mental illness to rear its ugly head and for failure to kick my legs out from under me and smash my head into the pavement like it has so many times already.

My family is not supportive. They don't care and they think that simply watching and dragging me to different family functions is enough. As long as I'm sentient and breathing, they seem to think that it's okay, despite a couple of them dealing with mental illnesses themselves. I have no friends since everyone I know my age is married, and therefore unable to really socialize or talk with anyone since a guy has to sacrifice his social life for the good of a relationship, apparently, and the places I keep being referred to for friends are for the mentally ill. I'm tired of wearing my illness as a badge. There's more to me than the depression, at least, I hope.

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687e99 No.231

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>>230

Okay. So, you're 31, depressed, unable to keep a steady job, in debt and unsure of what to do with yourself. First, I'd just like to say that you are not alone. If you are a waste, then so are millions of other young men throughout the world right now, none of whom have done anything wrong other than be unlucky enough to live during a time when society is falling apart and people don't care for each other like they used to. It used to be that everyone had misfortune, but their family and friends and neighbors would help them through it. These days, it's all about inidivdualism and social atomization - now suddenly if you can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps you're a failure. This has literally never been the case in any society except the modern west in the last fifty or so years. It is an anomaly, and everything you've been culturally indocrinated to feel about "independent living" is a lie. I know that isn't much consolation, and those feelings will remain, but let it be the first glimmer of hope I can give you.

To let you know that I'm not just talking out my ass, I am 26, have never gone to college because I couldn't even secure a loan, and was a depressed NEET for nigh on seven years who couldn't even secure NEETbux and was forced to couch surf because my own family left me in a mental ward. They just left me there because they didn't want to take care of me anymore. I have met many people much like myself, and much like you. I know we are becoming more and more common. Many of us, though, were able to make it through our hard times with a little help from friends. You aren't a waste, anon. None of us are. We're just being left by the wayside because society is falling apart. All you need is someone to show the littlest bit of care.

That being said, the very factors that ameliorate your personal responsibilty for your situation also mean that it will be difficult for you to get out. Not anywhere near impossible, but difficult. It will take genuine hope, and courage, things that I know you think you don't have. But you do. You just need to dig for them.

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9cb56d No.238

Thanks HW/BO. Not sure what happened with that crash to make some threads link to blank pages.

>>231

Thanks, that actually helps quite a bit. I'll get Tox and try to help out some here. Maybe a sense of higher purpose would do me some good.


687e99 No.239

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>>238

>Thanks, that actually helps quite a bit

Glad I could make you feel even a little bit better.

>I'll get Tox and try to help out some here

Like I said, email me your Tox ID and we can talk. There's a little circle of /hope/fuls that use Tox, as well, who you could try talking to if you wanted. If you want to help out around here, just stick around and post. Threads don't even have to be on topic, as long as they follow the /kind/ness rule. We need a community around here. There's also the wiki, though for some reason I have been unable to connect to it for the past couple of days. I'll have to talk to our wiki guy about it.

>Maybe a sense of higher purpose would do me some good

It certainly can't hurt, friend. Welcome aboard.


a11456 No.250

>>238

>Maybe a sense of higher purpose would do me good.

This absolutely, I would recommend looking around your town for a soup kitchen or something like that and volunteering, it helps twofold by keeping you active and doing something with a tangible helpful result.


569f37 No.305

>>250

Another reason to volunteer is that it opens your eyes to the fact that there are thousands of other suffering souls out there who have slipped through the cracks of society. I'm 29, and like OP said, most people I know are married and having kids. But I've worked for 2 non-profits that cater to the homeless and mentally ill, and it changes your perspective in a big way to see up close this huge segment of the population drifting through life with no families and no homes. I have mental health issues of my own, and spending time around others in the same boat has helped to mitigate those feelings of loneliness and isolation.



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74e7b9 No.56[Reply]

This is a thread for anons to post advice and suggestions for how to safely keep in contact with other anons. Someone mentioned the use of throwaway email and so forth, and that is a good start, but it would be nice to come up with some ideas for standardized practices which we could share with newcomers.

Off you go!

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74e7b9 No.189

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>>176

I have taken the time to read through the guide in your link, and I feel that it would be best if you or any /tech/-minded anons lurking would make a wiki article on secure communications. Here is the link to hopewiki: http://65.29.84.33/index.php/Hopewiki (apologies for the shady-looking IP link, our web guy has yet to set up our domain yet)

I will follow the guide and attempt to contact you securely, torfriend. Then we may discuss protocols that would be reasonable to enforce (or perhaps merely recommend).

>>183

Added you and your robot. Though, I tried to connect to /hope/ today and it said the group does not exist.

>>186

It shows the depth of technical knowledge I have that I actually had to look up what HTTPS is. If it would make you and all the other /tech/ nerds more comfortable, I will go through all our links and https-ify them. Would you suggest that I make that a rule, or maybe advise anons to download https-everywhere or some such thing?

If anyone else has any more suggestions, email or Tox me. I am not sure what level of security it would be desirable to encourage here on /hope/, but I suppose safer is better than sorry.


74e7b9 No.190

>>189

I should add that when I initially created this thread, I was asking more about brainstorming ideas for preventing anons from being able to take advantage of or troll each other, since /hope/ plans to become something of a social network of anons. Though all of the suggestions so far are also sensible, and it is a good idea to make sure any communications have a secure base safe from prying eyes, as a lot of personal and potentially embarrassing info will no doubt be shared.


74e7b9 No.192

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>>176

I added you as a buddy on Pidgin, anon. My username is either hiramoftyre12@xmpp.jp/anoymous, or fallingblock60…something. I'm really not sure. I have a username for pidgin and one for the jabber client, I guess? Maybe you can explain a little better how this all works after you add me back.


d1e4fb No.193

>>189

When groupchats are inactive the groupbot deletes it which is why it needs population. In Tox, groupchats are not consistent. Once the client restarts, groupchats are forgotten. This is a missing feature that JFreeman is working on.

And in light of this detail i have forgot to mention, the reason why i proposed Tox was because it is quite user friendly and simple. And with TPP on our doorstep we could communicate and share securely.

Hopefully toxcore will be updated with JFreeman's work soon.

the groupbot should have the groupchat back on.


000000 No.302

New Game-Changer, Tor Messenger:

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-messenger-beta-chat-over-tor-easily



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775948 No.298[Reply]

Hey guys, lately my life has been feeling very empty, I feel as though I cant interact with my friends very much because they all have computers and can talk to eachother and have fun with eachother through this, I on the other hand do npt have a computer, nor can I get one, I cannot even talk to my friends outside of schoolwithout a computer. This aside, whenever they have get togethers or hang out, I never get invited, or just get forgotten. and my other friends from out of school is an issue tpo, I cant ever see them because I cant go to parties, or other such things with them. My parents never want to talk about this stuff with me, and my friends have the emotions of a brick wall. The other issue is that in two weeks I will be finished school, and will probably never get to see my friends again because I cant contact them.

I just hate feeling so damned empty and sad all of the time

I guess what im looking for is just some hope from you guys and maybe some advice too if you want

09f126 No.299

>>298

I presume you are eighteen or so and are finishing up high school. First of all let me say that most people don't keep in touch with their friends from high school after they graduate, so you won't be missing much there. Not that I expect this will make you feel any better, but that is just typically what happens. They will go off to college or get jobs and girlfriends, or move to a different town or city, and you'll probably never speak to them again. There are exceptions, of course, but your friends don't sound like the kind to be exceptions.

As for your inability to socialize with them right now, you say you don't have a computer, yet you are posting on an imageboard. This means that you at least have access to a library or are able to borrow a computer. So your problem isn't really that you don't have a computer. You also have people who you call friends to begin with, so you must have been able to socialize with them without the aid of electronics at one point. Your real problem seems to be your inability to relate with your friends, who you say are emotionless and spend most of their time online.

So in that vein, I guess I have some questions before I can help you. Have you ever been diagnosed with depresssion or any other mental illness? Do you ever feel socially anxious? How is your relationship with your parents and have you tried talking to them about these issues rather than waiting for them to talk to you? Why is it that you can't go to parties or talk to your other friends from outside of school?


a69ed9 No.300

Well I posted this from my phone, so I still cant access a computer, but that is really a lame thing to be upset about.

As for your questions, I have not been diagnosed with anything like that, I do get socially anxious pretty often, I have a good relationship with my parents, and I actively do try to talk to my parents, but they just deny me, I cant go to parties because my parents dont let me, and since im only 17 I really dont need shit from my parents

Thanks for thre other advice too


f683e9 No.301

>>298

>>300 (checked)

I remember having a similar feeling in high school. I always felt left out of social gatherings. It's alright. It gets better. As the anon in >>299 (also checked) said, you probably won't maintain a lot of contact with these people after high school anyway. College or the workforce is really a fresh start.

Why don't you try texting them more? You can still do that without a computer. Also, sometimes you do have to take the initiative and try to set something up with your friends instead of waiting for them to come to you. I know it's not always the best feeling having to do that (I was in the same boat), but it's better than no social interaction. Just don't be afraid to reach out.



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3ac09d No.251[Reply]

Hello /hope/,

I made this thread to satisfy a verbal agreement.

I am planing to an hero after my school's semester is up. I am not doing this because I am depressed or have suffered any kind of lost, in fact I have a moderately comfortable life. The problem is twofold, the security that is by the grace of my mother is coming to an end and I will have to wage slave soon I am not saying I am entitled to be taken care of by anyone, but by the same token no one is entitled to my labor or time, but the problem comes up when I have on more food to eat, and I would rather take the quick painless way out, then weeks of starvation I understand, then the question is there anything to work, so you stay live to experience it, and the answer for me is no. I don't enjoy learning, being around other people, food, exercise, I get no sense of accomplishment from anything.

I am 18 and in college, no friends, and my mother works too much to notice me.

I was told /hope/ would be able to 'help' me, not that I am see what I need help, but it isn't like I have anything else to do.

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3ac09d No.281

>>278

>Why did you choose to make such a contract in the first place?

Something to do while I wait for the school year to rap-up. I am also going to play fallout 4, and do all my class work, it is just to kill time.

>What was the purpose of waitin until the school semester ended?

A kid back in my high-school killed him-self because he was getting raped by his brother or something, mind you this kid didn't talk to anyone, after he an heroed, everyone couldn't shut up about it, and I will not give people the opportunity to make my death about themselves, that was the first reason, the second reason was after I got the tank I learned that is was 80% helium, so now I have to find a way to get pure helium.

>This board is so new it barely has a culture.

Well, you may be genuine, but this is going to completely destroy my mother, so is I fine with hurting her, I am fine hurting anyone. Don't get me wrong, appreciate the sentiment, but the way others feel about my actions has never really affected those actions.

>If you know for certain what is going to happen after the school semester ends, why did you come here and why are you waiting? And why is your death the only solution?

see above

>>279

He might have saved me from making myself brain dead, if I didn't already know about the 20% air thing.


b0dfe2 No.284

>>281

>it is just to kill time

Kill time until…?

>I will not give people the opportunity to make my death about themselves

What does that matter to you? You'll be dead.

>this is going to completely destroy my mother, so is I fine with hurting her, I am fine hurting anyone

Why would your mother be devestated if she cared about you so little that she wouldn't help you if you asked? Obviously you don't see much to live for, but that is because you don't see any options. Why do you think your mother could not help you with broadening those options?

>He might have saved me from making myself brain dead, if I didn't already know about the 20% air thing

What would save you from being brain dead is not attempting suicide.

Look friend, I know you think you have your mind made up right now. I know the prospect of going into the world is frightening. But the cliche is true: suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You don't see any options at the moment. Okay. But how do you that won't change?

I know this probably won't matter to you, but I will pray for you, anon. I'll pray that you come to see the value in your life, and that you will keep listening to that voice that is telling you to wait.

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3ac09d No.286

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>>284

>Kill time until…?

Until I can find pure helium.

>What does that matter to you? You'll be dead.

Yeah, your right it is a stupid reason, but it is my reason.

>Why do you think your mother could not help you with broadening those options?

She would be devastated as far as it would be expected of her, that is I don't think she can feel legitimate emotion if that makes any sense. She'll be sad in her own way for awhile, then get over it, same as she did with my father.

She has a picture in her head, and if nothing is disrupting that picture everything is fine, but the disruption has to be big enough to really threaten the picture. I have tried talking about her with this, leaving out the suicidal parts, and she just wrote it off as something that happens with all young people, even if I did tell her about wanting to an hero, I don't see how she could help me, I still don't see how anyone could help me.

>I'll pray that you come to see the value in your life

If billions of years of evolution couldn't do it, then I wouldn't bet on the divine.

There is a surprising number of theists on chans.


6de51c No.287

night auditor

night security


3ac09d No.544

testing something



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b4d65e No.256[Reply]

Hi friends. I didn't really know that there was a board like this, and I appreciate what you all do here. Was sent here by an anon on another thread on another board . I'm not sure now what to do. I'm sure anons like me come and go a lot and it might get tedious, I'm sorry. To avoid flood detection I will post said thread in comment, thanks for the read

b4d65e No.257

>>>/b/4662426


676f94 No.261

>>256

Thank you for dropping by. It's not tedious at all. Threads like this are what this board was created for. It's a bit slow right now (we're fairly new), but we'll do what we can.

I just read your OP from /b/. It seems like you've had a lot happen to you, friend. Seeing as how you're very close to following through right now, I'll make this response brief. I'm not going to tell you it'll get better. You've heard it before, and it's not what you seem to need right now. But what I will tell you is that there are people who care about you and would be sad to see you go. There are people, yes, even anons, who think that you are worth something and shouldn't commit suicide.

The BO and us vols have our emails on most of our posts here for a reason. It's not just for contact for general board support, it's for people like you. We're willing to reach out and try to be a friend. So do with that what you will.

I hope you'll stick around, friend. Welcome to /hope/.


b4d65e No.263

>>256

To no offense of anyone, I find the overwhelming amount of care I've received from those on an infamous image board sadly funny.

Nonetheless, Some responses I've gotten have left me in tears. I'm so greatly appreciative of people like you. Whereas I was very sure of suicide before, now I am doubting myself.

If anyone would be willing (but there is no obligation of course), my email is thankyouhope1@gmail.com


cfb329 No.264

I believe in you OP. You have the will and the way to live a happy life. You just have to take something for yourself for once and try to make your life better. Someone out there is bound to be able to truly understand you, in fact I think most people have the capability to. You just have to try as hard as possible to defeat that voice in the back of their head that makes them believe that they're somehow better than someone else. True understanding can only be achieved after that. I understand that some people don't just want to hear about your worries, but maybe it's because they thought that they weren't making you better. You have to try, no matter what that part of you that says you're worthless tells you. You have to try anon. I believe in you anon, we all do.


ab7e9f No.271

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It appears that you've already been dissuaded from your previous course. I'm so glad that you decided to ask for help and that the anons here and on /b/ could give you hope. Please, if you ever need anything again, remember that we're here for you. I'll send you an email at the address you listed. In the meantime, hang in there OP.

Let this also be an example to anyone lurking this thread who might be considering self-harm; you wouldn't be here if you didn't already have hope that someone might be able to help you and that things could get better. You can't be helped if you don't reach out and ask. There are people here (and even on /b/, for goodness' sakes) who genuinely care about what happens to you and would miss you if you were gone. We're all brothers here on an imageboard, friends.



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79a5bb No.260[Reply]

breddy gud board tbh

t. ebin board r8er

78de8f No.262

>>260

Thanks, friend. Hope you stick around.


dca987 No.270

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>>260

Thanks ebin board r8er, that means a lot coming from you. Have a rare Pepe as a token of our appreciation for your endorsement.



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ef0f3d No.244[Reply]

I like this board. I found myself smiling when I found it and read the contents of it, and when I saw what the board owner is doing with this, I genuinely said out loud "What a genuinely nice person." And the boards meager content has been satisfying to think about and relate to my own experiences. I'd like to believe I'm a little bit happier from stumbling upon this board.

However, it's a little bit inactive, and I suppose I should throw my two bits of philosophical nuance that I've been racking about in my brain for the past few months, so as to give this board a little bit of activity.

I'm rather curious as to how multiple paths pan out in life, and I'm at a bit of a crossroads.

I'm a sophomore university student majoring in Computer Engineering with high prospects of a decent life if I just continued my studies and got hired by one of the local companies who pick up students in my major like hotcakes right out of university. But I've been thinking recently and I have to admit that I absolutely detest this idea of a decent life. I've begun to become apathetic towards my classes, and the more I think about it, the less I am certain that I could actually be a stable member of society working 40 hours+ a week in any capacity, really. I've also taken to a lifestyle of sitting on my ass, playing video games, and browsing multiple boards on multiple websites when I'm not doing schoolwork, and even though I had a chance when I first went to college to not do so, I retreated into my shell and chose such a life, and I find myself craving something completely new out of life, as I fear the stagnation will destroy me in some way shape or form.

And so I've been thinking about my options based on this scenario.

I've friends back in an old city who would be absolutely amazing to go back to, and with a little bit of luck and my limited knowledge, I could make a decent living going to raves and parties downtown and selling a variety of drugs.(Considering the nature of this board I assume the answer to this idea is a unanimous no, though it'd be interesting to hear input regardless)

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24fae0 No.246

>>244

I don't know much about life, but what I do know is that you probably shouldn't throw everything in your life away with only selling drugs and/or being homeless in mind.

Tried any hobbies lately? Maybe something that gets you away from your familiar environment, like going innawoods or taking a vacation to a far away land for a week or two. Or try something you can do at home that you might find enjoyment in, something creative like art or music, or more technical hobbies like electronics. Could even give DIY a go.

Any of those and many more will expand your options for potential career alternatives with a bit of time and practice, and they can be done without flushing your entire life thus far down the toilet to be a drug pushing hobo.


7b34e3 No.248

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>>244

>someone thinks I'm nice

Oh, gosh~

Ahem. Anyway, I think I am with this anon >>246 friend. You have been blessed with an intelligent mind and an aptitude for a skill that is in high demand. So when you say

>I have to admit that I absolutely detest this idea of a decent life

…I have to admit that my mind boggles. Are you so sure that you would detest having a normal life, when you haven't even begun living it yet? Or are you perhaps just nervous, or being influenced by people or media who have been telling you that it's not hip to be square?

Because I can tell you, friend, I lived the bohemian ghetto lifestyle for several years, and have been very close to homelessness for much of that time. I have also met many homeless people and bohemians. Both are shit lives. They only sound exciting to those who are incapable of being grateful for the gifts they have been given, if you'll pardon my saying so. If you think working or studying full-time is stressful or dull, try living in filthy surroundings, unsure of your next meal or if you're going to freeze to death. Or bouncing between homes and friendships, fearful of the law and of lowlifes you run into every day. It is not fun, 0/10 would not recommend.

So, in short, don't do drugs and stay in school.

Thanks for visiting /hope/ by the way, we're glad to have you stop by!

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1c044f No.253

Like the BO said, those lifestyles may be glamorized in some media, but reality is different.

It sounds to me like your main issue may be that you don't have any friends at college. Studies have shown that people who have no friends at school/work, even if they have friends elsewhere, often perform very poorly and can fall into depression easily. I would recommend getting to know people at your college and try to make one or more good friends. Talk to people in your classes, ask people who seem cool if they want to study together. Find a club that you're interested in. You're just a sophomore, so it's not to late to come out if your shell and build some relationships. I know from personal experience that that's easier said than done often times, but I'll be rooting for you.



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7787f1 No.55[Reply]

This thread is for discussing the creation of a /hope/ wikia or other online deposit of information. Discuss what should be included, how we can set it up, who should run it, etc.

I'm just the board owner and am a functional computer illiterate, so the more /tech/nical anons among us will have to go about this on their own. Feel free to consult me about it, though. God bless this task and those who undertake it.

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7a36fe No.195

>>194

It works for me. Exciting.


9463bd No.203

Glad you didn't go with wikia, it's worse than Hitler.


000000 No.210

bump let's keep it alive brehs


7787f1 No.211

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>>210

This thread, or the board? I leave for the weekend and come back and there has been basically zero activity. It's a ghost board! I know there are at least a dozen or so people lurking, you can do better than this, friends. Don't be shy!


a89720 No.241

for those who've noticed, the wiki has had issues for the past few days.

I was running some maintenance and I seem to have accidentally some of the network config.

Either way, the issue is resolved and hopewiki rides again! Sorry for any issues.



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7fbbe5 No.235[Reply]

Alright anons, I need some help. For the past few months, I haven't really felt like anything. Nothing seems to excite me anymore nor does anything really make me sad. In general, I feel like shit. I want to do something about my condition without using antidepressants. (I might use them as a last resort tho. Just maybe)

ecf1d5 No.236

Are you me? I wanted to write something similar. Unfortunately I cannot provide any advice as I am a wrack as it is. I can withstand life only by watch TV shows and movies in all the free time I have, so I don't have to think. I guess it's better than doing drugs or getting drunk, but it's still an addiction.

The only reason I am not dead yet is because I have to take care if my dogs, which I love dearly. Other than that I feel emptiness inside me. Not sadness, not anger but a special type of apathy that makes everything seem dull and unimportant.

I hope you can manage to find a way. I personally couldn't.


335858 No.237

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>>235

Your aversion to anti-depressants is wise, Anon. Just remember that they can be very useful as a gateway to a normal frame of mind. If you do use them, I advise to stay on them for about a month and be as productive as possible for that time. When you come off them, your brain will be somewhat rewired to a healthy routine. They're a great rope ladder out of the abyss, but many people seem to just hang onto it without climbing out.

Shitty metaphors and drugs aside, I reccomend exercise. Force yourself to do some pushups, or go for a short walk, anything. Force that into your routine, and incrementally do more and more. The endorphins will take care of the rest. Best of luck to you and the other Anon. Try to remember that what you're going through is perfectly normal. Many, many people before you have overcome this, and you're no different.



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