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0f40fd No.196

i can't make friends because i hate people too much

i feel like everyone but me is retarded. even though i'm very retarded myself. that makes my opinion of people that much lower.

i'm the most socially unaware guy i know, i can't do simple math and i'm so mentally ill that i'm incapable of driving. and yet i'm somehow better at articulating and critically analyzing things and seeing through propaganda than anyone i've ever met.

and i hate them for it. i hate them for being below such a piece of shit like myself. how is it possible to be below a turd? they find a way.

it makes me want to kill myself, knowing i'm surrounded by such loathsome beast men. knowing i'll always be alone, miserable and wishing for a companion with more common sense than a dog.

i'm scared to die

0f40fd No.197

as an example, just tonight, i was telling my braindead mother that i suggest eating extremely dark chocolate because i had read about an experiment conducted by some medical experts using the population of an old folk's home.

their findings suggested that cocoa drastically strengthens the heart enough to lower the risk of death by heart complications tenfold.

she rejected my idea on the spot without even letting me finish my sentence, pointing to her four ancestors that lived to be 90 without any modern medicine.

i was so disgusted by her fallacies and disconcern for her own health that i told her to fuck off and not talk to me anymore

this is just an average day for me surrounded by braindead zombies


8243de No.198

Lol I just responded to you in /furry/, but wow, no wonder you couldn't get anyone but an autistic polack who doesn't give you attention. I guess you have to tell yourself that you're better than everyone else to protect your ego somehow. I thought you didn't socialize with people anyway, how would you know? Well, delusions keep the mind stable sometimes.

And that example, I don't even know where to start. Everyone knows dark chocolate has heart health benefits. But no one's scarfing it down because not everyone likes dark chocolate, and not everyone cares that dark chocolate can help x because 200 other things can help x, too. The fact that your mind went to "she just can't appreciate my brilliance and intelligence, what a dumb bitch" is insane to me, what an insufferable piece of shit. You sound 14, I feel so sorry for your mom. Telling her fuck off because she doesn't care about a common piece of "health" information you decided to bestow upon her? You're a child.

(I know it is often difficult to sympathize with someone who has a poor attitude, but that is no excuse for having one of your own. This anon came here for help. You did not help him by pointing out his flaws and insulting him. Please read rule two before posting again. t. BO)

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4ad52e No.199

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>>196

>>197

Hello, friend. Let me see if I can't help you come to a different perspective.

Believe it or not, you are not the only one who has a low opinion of both themselves and humanity at large. I myself was very much like you in this regard, not so long ago. I know what it's like to feel surrounded by idiots, and yet not so much to feel better than they are, but rather to feel as if their insipidity makes your flaws seem less by comparison. Perhaps you wonder how the average person manages to function when they seem to give no regard whatever to the illusions that surround them. I know that feel; and it's not entirely without cause, so far as it goes. I don't think you see the whole picture, though.

Man is a social animal. This is a truism, and perhaps you think I am being condescending, but it is extremely easy to forget this very essential fact, especially for people like us who don't function as well socially and therefore spend a lot of time apart from other people. Since man is a social animal, all his primary motivations outside of the animal lusts like sex and hunger are social motivations. Though we are capable of rational thought, your average person does not, as a rule, engage in it very often. They are much more concerned with social status and signalling, since those things are, since time immemorial, the best ways to secure a future for ones' self and one's children. Gaining social status and signalling it also feel really good, for what that's worth. We all crave it to some degree. You can hardly blame people for concentrating on that to the exclusion of logical matters; it's what we're designed for.

So, for example, when your mother rejected out of hand your suggestion to eat more dark chocolate, citing scientific studies, this should come as no surprise given our common nature. The scientists who did the studies you cited are not in your mother's social circle; agreeing with them gains her no status. Her ancestors, on the other hand, are people she can relate to, even if they're dead and she's never met them. She's emotionally and socially invested in following in their footsteps. Moreover, the chance of living slightly longer probably seemed not a great bargain to her in exchange for changing her lifestyle on the authority of people she doesn't care about in the least. Thus, she was annoyed with your suggestion.

My point being, that while facts and evidence, by themselves, are relatively more important to people like us who have to rely on ourselves more since we've cut ourselves off from a social network, to the average person they are incidental matters. Rational thought is something they engage in in very specific situations, like at their job or when encountering everyday problems that don't have anything to do with other people. Some average people even think rationally as a hobby, considering questions of math or science or philosophy for fun, during their leisure time. But around other people? Not usually. Usually, the solution to a problem in a social setting comes from Tradition or Fashion or Right Opinion, something that will make people think you're one of the group and that you are valuable to it.

You must understand that this behavior does not make people dumber than you; as I said, they are just as capable of rational thought as you. They just don't engage in it as often, because it is frankly not as important to them. If they need a problem solved and can't do it on their own, that is what they have the giant social network we call civilization for. They just call someone who knows how to solve the problem, who society or their friends or family say they can trust. And trust them they do, generally unthinkingly, because trust like that is how society is run.

So next time you are disgusted by someone else's behavior, remember their nature, and remember that it is your nature, too. You no doubt have a low opinion of yourself for the same reason that the people that disgust you do; because you cannot fulfill that social urge in a healthy way. This isn't your fault, friend. You were made differently. But you need to come to terms with that for what it is, rather than rationalizing your low self-esteem by demonizing normal behavior. If you need to talk more about it, we at /hope/ are always here for you.


aae3fe No.201

>>196

>i feel like everyone but me is retarded. even though i'm very retarded myself. that makes my opinion of people that much lower.

I think most people are going to know this feel. I know I do, because it used to be how I thought. That everyone who doesn't get [whatever] reference to [historical text] is an uncultured swine who has nothing more than a pop-identity that languishes in modern McConsumerism.

But let's take a look at your own self-assessment. You say that you're (in a nutshell) an anti-social "mental retard" that hates everyone. But, you also say that you're really really good at digesting propaganda.

Well look at that: you have all this bad, but deep down there's some spark in there; something good about you. Most people are like this, and we need to keep that in mind; that for all of our failings, there is something that each and every one of us excels at.

This is kinda the key to getting over the idea that there are hylics/p-zombies/"beast-men" or whatever: that everyone has something about them that is good or useful, and it only takes time to see that good and useful trait manifest. Being on the lookout for this inner goodness is the key to finding a way to love others rather than hating them all as useless beasts.

Example: I have a co-worker who, when I first met her, thought she was probably the most banal, McCulture, empty headed thing in the world; didn't know what "a chernobyl" was, and couldn't tell me who "Job" in the phrase "suffering like Job" was. Overly chatty, irritating, uncultured, discusses nothing but banality, etc etc…nothing but irritation and superficiality, yeah?

Well, because she's such a social little thing, her well developed skill in reading demeanor literally saved lives when she picked up on how suspicious a certain fellow was behaving – long story short, her "superficial sociality" saved lives and put a crazy violent stalker behind bars.

Again, everyone has something good

And we're not all the same either. For instance, you're good at dispelling propaganda. My co-worker is good at reading faces. I'm good at server administration. This kinda ties into

>i'm very retarded myself

Not really – you're just not good at what some other people are good at. I wouldn't expect you to admin a website as well as me, anymore than I'd expect my co-worker to dispel propaganda, or for me to know how to read faces.

Just like everyone is good at something, people have things about them that aren't so good. We can't beat ourselves up over it though, just as we shouldn't beat others up for their faults (naturally, we should strive to improve ourselves where possible, but to simply sit there and stew in it accomplishes nothing). We should instead focus on what good exists, in both ourselves and in others.

>i'll always be alone, miserable and wishing for a companion with more common sense than a dog.

Well, wecome to /hope/.

Drop me an email at the address in the email field and maybe we can talk some things out. I'm not the greatest "advice guy" out there, but that's not the point. You want a friend, and I'm willing to give it a try, and I promise that I'll make an attempt at having more sense than a dog. Maybe we can get together on Tox or skype…maybe you can call me on the phone – whatever works for you.


014fb2 No.218

>>199

>>201

not the OP but thank you guys for posting this, I also needed to hear it.


0f40fd No.221

Thanks for the replies. They were much more intelligent and longer than I anticipated, but I'm afraid they didn't help much. Luckily I was drunk and experiencing mood swings when I wrote it however. The loneliness doesn't bother me so much most of the time.

I did send you an email and gave you my Tox ID. You only gave me two minutes to respond though and I haven't seen you back since.


4ad52e No.226

>>221

>I'm afraid they didn't help much

I'm sorry to hear that.

>Luckily I was drunk and experiencing mood swings when I wrote it however

I dunno what's so lucky about that; often buried emotions come out during drunkenness or in a mood swing. Just because it's an abnormal situation doesn't mean your thoughts and feelings at the time weren't genuine.

>The loneliness doesn't bother me so much most of the time

I will not claim to know your thoughts, but I have heard this said by a lot of very lonely people, including myself, who were in reality very bothered by their loneliness and who merely chose not to think about it most of the time.

>You only gave me two minutes to respond though and I haven't seen you back since

Please give webguy another chance. I happen to know that he is a busy guy and that he certainly didn't mean to intentionally snub you. It must have been something else that came up.

Or, if you feel like putting yourself out there a second time, you can email me. I am not a busy guy. I'll probably respond within a few hours as long as you don't email me after midnight U.S. EST.




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