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7c2195 No.97

Ask all your questions about our board here!

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d1c9d3 No.138

What's your vision for this board, Board Owner?


7c2195 No.140

>>138

It's funny you ask that now, because I am in the process of writing a mission statement page for the board.

I can give you a quick summary, though. I created this board after replying to a thread on /christian/ in which OP wanted advice on what he and the rest of us could do to help "all the unhappy and miserable people on imageboards in the whole world." Coincidentally I had been thinking about this question myself, because I had until very recently been one of these unhappy and miserable people on imageboards. I turned my life around with charity from strangers, however, and I wanted to share the hope that had given me with other anons. I figured that if I could inspire a userbase to start helping their fellow imageboard users in a selfless way, that might in turn give people who had been as hopeless as I was a reason to give life another shot. You see, what had changed me was the simple fact that despite how worthless I believed myself to be, I met other people who decided to help me with complete selflessness. I had to repay that by helping them help me. And I did.

Eventually, I hope to make the userbase of this board into a sort of informal version of the Salvation Army, except targeted specifically at NEETs, hikkis, and depressed or otherwise unfortunate people on imageboards. We're starting small, though, by building a wiki and compiling educational resources, as well as making our board open to anons to come for advice, conversation, and companionship from people who understand them and their situation.


193444 No.177

What's the difference between this board and /improve/?


7c2195 No.178

>>177

(Checked)

An excellent question. There are a lot of boards that have similar goals and outlooks which at first glance may appear identical. /hope/ and /improve/, for example, both offer a place where anons can seek advice for self-improvement. You could say the same about /hope/ and /kind/ (both places where kindness to one's fellow posters is part of the culture and enforced by the rules) or /hope/ and /adv/, or /hope/ and any of the boards listed on our friends page (which we hope to grow!): https://8ch.net/hope/friends.html

The biggest difference, I think, between /hope/ and /improve/, and any other board that provides some form of aid or comfort, is in terms of scope and mission. We don't just aim to provide self-improvement resources, or education, or advice, or a kind place to relax and talk. We aim to provide all of those things and more. We eventually hope to be able to organize material assistance to anons, though we're unsure of what form that would take and how we'd go about it. What we do know is that we have a mission to help all anons everywhere with no exceptions, and with no self-imposed limits on what sort of assistance we promise to provide.

There is one last, cultural difference as well that should be mentioned. The board owner and the first few members and volunteers of the board split off from /christian/, and while /hope/ is not an explicitly religious place, its founders see their mission through a religious lens.

In short, /hope/ aims to bring together all the boards and posters on 8chan who wish to help others, regardless of their particular board culture, ideology, or religious outlook.

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bb585a No.215

Now and again I look in on this board because I like the idea of an imageboard where people actually behave civilly, yet I never much feel like posting. It's finally occurred to me why: when you enforce kindness it sort of loses its meaning. The trouble with "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" is that you can't really be sure how genuine the nice things are when any unkind things are censored with a veneer of kindness.

There is such a thing as an unkind truth, too– things which are important to hear but aren't altogether nice. You could argue that this is kind in its own way, but it still seems like it goes against the grain of the board.


7c2195 No.216

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>>215

Thanks for sharing your opinion, but if you'll excuse my language, friend, that is a load of poppycock. I see this argument put forth by anons on /kind/ all the time, but it never holds water.

You know how you can tell that the kindness of people on boards like this is genuine? Because out of literally hundreds of other boards, there are probably less than a dozen where kindness and civility are actively enforced, and yet they still choose to post. To give an example using a more established board, by your logic, /kind/ either should be dead, or is in fact a board full of psychopaths, using the pretence of kindness to manipulate other people…anonymously, on a low-traffic corner of the internet, for no conceivable personal gain.

Moreover, if you're going to make the argument that kindness "loses its meaning" when it is enforced, you're going to also have to make me believe that enforcing any kind of community standard of behavior is pointless, on the grounds that enforcing a standard always and instantly renders genuine self-expression impossible. Which means that in every place and every era of history in which public or private decorum was enforced, the behavior of those people was necessarily false and artificial, at all times. Which is, of course, nonsense. If that were true, it would literally be impossible to genuinely communicate any information to other people at all, because a community in which there are no standards of decorum, spoken or unspoken, is a non-entity. Even /b/ has rules.

As for unkind truths, it is perfectly easy to express an unkind truth in a way in which the recipient can understand that you don't mean it to be unkind. It's what's called an 'apology'. To give an example, if you're about to tell another anon that, no bones about it, he is very ugly and there is nothing he can do about this, you might preface your statement with "I don't mean to be unkind, but…" or "I apologize for being so frank, but I feel you need to be told that…" or some other such formulation. What is important in ensuring that interpersonal communication is kind and civil is not that the content of the message make the recipient feel good, but that the recipient know that the speaker has no ill intention. This is why we have the saying "don't kill the messenger", and why traditionally the bearers of bad news always apologize, even though they had no part in causing what they are about to relate.

In other words, anon, I don't mean to be rude, but I simply cannot believe that you believe that you don't feel like posting here because you cannot tell genuine kindness from fake, or that it isn't possible for anyone here to be genuinely kind. That has to simply be a rationalization of whatever your real hangups are, and forgive me for saying so, but it is a poor one.

I think if you just tried posting here or on /kind/ without worrying about whether this anon or that is being genuine, and instead only worrying about whether you yourself are being genuinely kind, you might have a lot of fun.


cbecb8 No.223

I saw there was a page added to the wiki about exercise recently. Can we have a thread about that here? I'm shy so I don't want to make it, but I'm a fatweeb so it would be nice to have a thread to just post things in like "I left my house and went for a walk today." (Also, if anyone wants to add something to the wiki about agoraphobia and social anxiety, that would be pertinent to my situation…)


7c2195 No.224

>>223

I will get off my lazy ass and do those things today, friend, since you asked. And thank you for asking, this board needs friends asking for help if it is to have any activity at all.


b2e632 No.304

I wanted to write an article about acne but I think the wiki is down.


7c2195 No.308

>>304

Again? Gosh dang it. Webguy, warn people before you do maintainance, you seem to have the worst luck with the timing. People want to use it just when you decide to tinker with it.

I'll try to get our wiki guy to get it up and running again asap.


c1fb6d No.428

>>308

Is your board dead too?


1ca5fd No.429

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>>428

It may as well be. We get a post or two every week. Not that I'm complaining. I'm glad anyone visits at all. But with 8chan seemingly going down the tubes, I don't know if /hope/ has a future, here. I may just end up creating a new /hope/ on endchan.xyz. If I do, I will make a thread about it letting people know where to go.


b07bf8 No.434

>>429

I'm still here too, but I often don't have the energy or will to make a response especially since Christmas, New Years, and a bad cold have drained me.


98d5dc No.440

Did the first board owner leave for endchan, will the owner leave?


1e362e No.441

>>440

No, he is still here, as far as I know. The general plan is that he has the board there set up just in case the massive migration happens. Since that is looking less and less likely, I assume he will stay here. We will be wherever needy anons need us.


1e362e No.442

>>441

oops, didn't mean for the tripcode to show up. I'm a vol. Posting with it just so you can tell that I am in contact with the B.O. and as far as I know, we aren't going anywhere.


1ca5fd No.447

>>440

I'm still here, anon.

With all the migration/Next nonsense that was going on, and IRL issues I was dealing with, /hope/ didn't really get much attention from me (or anyone else) over the past two months. I'd check in periodically just to see if anyone posted, of course. Then cockmail went down and I lost my main means of contact with both my vols and other anons. Did you try to email me? Is that why you were wondering if I had left? If so, I apologize. I was kind of waiting for Vince to get cockmail running again, but as it's taking longer than I expected I may have to find a new throwaway mail account.

As for the lack of activity, there's not much more I can do about that than I've already done without becoming obnoxious in the eyes of the other boards; and recently all of 8chan has been losing users, though we may be recovering from that soon now that Next has been canned. Really the only solution is for anons who like this place to post here, even if it's not on-topic.


98d5dc No.465

>>447

>Did you try to email me? Is that why you were wondering if I had left? If so, I apologize. I

Not specifically, i remember seeing /hope/ advertised on christian. It's sad to see a board whose purpose was to hopeful in this condition. Thank you for setting up /hope/ though, and giving anon this chance.


6f3f69 No.531

Hello I found your board by accident.


061dc3 No.539

>>531

We're glad you did. Hope you stick around, friend.




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