/hypno/ - Hypnochan

https://www.sendspace.com/file/qjqdi7

>>6373

Last time I downloaded something from one of these types of servers, it came with an adware virus.

>>6378

beggars can't be choosers

>>5706

Kinda wish we had stricter rules for that.

>>4032

this please

Did noone download this shit? Were the uploaders banned?

can someone re-up the g@mble?

would someone upload "the St1rr1ngs 0f s3rvitude" please ?

this thread seems to be dead ! helloooooo ?! :D

>>Addicted to Hum1liation P0V

>>Humiliati0n hallw4y

>>Stir1ngs of servitude

i would appreciate uploading any of them !

Can someone please reupload the TG files? Much appreciated

>>6524

this please… and use l33t sp34k

lets get t0ugh guy reupped :)

Here you go - h++ps://www.sendspace.com/file/qjqdi7

Anybody got Pretty little toy

lel you troll thats kissedag!rl.mp4 wtf

bump for tough guy

TG plez I beg of you oh glorious anon

Also possibly CTS 3

:3

>>6988

I tired it and it's a HUGE disappointment. I listened to it and actually had problems coming with my gf instead of cumming too soon. The suggestion "trick" was done in such a way I think it backfired for me.

CTS 3? That sounds horrible. All my feels.

Tough Guy 1 & 2 , if anyone has it!

>>7002

Also bumping for this

Check on Giga

>>7012

Not everyone has or wants to use giga.That's why people go here instead of that site or post outside the giga thread.

the quest continues

all i want is a good hfo file

plez?

>>6989

>>6989

I tired it. It worked for me. Even quicker than cts2.

What suggestion are you talking about?

>>7199

Would you be willing to share cts3? I'm interested in trying it.

>>7227

CTS 1 and 2 are out there. I'd suggest trying those.

>>7269

I did try them, but to little effect. I'm thinking CTS3 may have a better setup. More importantly, however, I'd like to know who has TG 1 and 2. I'd like to try before I buy.

I'm also interested in CTS3.

>>7294

Ba bump

>>7269

Anonfiles doesn't work for me, sends me an error, can someone here uplload the files on another site ?

>>7287

>>7337

Go to the gigga thread and add some people.

Everyone has those files.

Can anybody re-upload cum too soon?

bumping for TG

>>7294

Bump

Bump for TG please

Could someone please make a torrent of the come to sune series and tuff giy?

It'd be really appreciated judging by the thread and it shouldn't get taken down. I'd pay for them but they are way too expensive!

>>8885

I agree that torrents are the best method, as long as people use a VPN.

I have TG1&2 but I know from past failures that I can't seem to get my system set up correctly to be the initial seed, though I have no trouble seeding an existing torrent.

If anyone is able to seed from scratch, then perhaps I could get a copy to him via mega/anonfiles./whatever and he could seed afterwards. Suggestions please.

>>8934

Thank you for a kind offer.

I agree on the VPN front.

Use the locker most convenient for you and I will torrent it.

tuffgiy@hmamail.com

>>8885

Way too expensive? The Tough Guy files are only $30 each (and both include a free training file) and Cum Too Soon are only $25 each. That's actually a good deal compared to what most hypnotists charge. How poor are you exactly? I'm sure your manager at McDonald's could float you an extra shift or two if something that costs less than a tank of gas is really too expensive for you.

>>8989

Check your inbox.

>>9002

$25-$30 is WAY too expensive for a sound file of this kind.

The latest mi movie had a budget of $150M and took thousands of people many years to make. A ticket to see it in imax costs less than one of these files. The 3D bluray of GotG costs $27.84 on amazon. Both is a mainstream blockbuster though so maybe another thing would be more similar.

A record that takes years to write and make costs less than one of these files. That’s more than one indie musician spending years of their lives with producers, mixers and masterers to release a longer more rehearsed sound file and the whole team are asking for less. It is even less money than one of these sound files to see these guys play live for an hour or so after they’ve travelled around the world to come to your city. A hypnotist travelling to your city performing in front of a smaller audience than I think these files have charges less.

Tuhf Gie is something that I want and I would be willing to pay for it, but the relative value is clear. The costs for this are hypnosis training, the time to write a script, recording and mixing gear. I don’t know how many people are behind it, but I doubt more than a few. Niche porn VIDEOS cost less.

I can only assume that it is priced so high because piracy is feared or expected. But it is self fulfilling. If it was costed lower these people would make more money through volume of sales. I will pirate it until they see sense.

>>9016

As promised magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8376dd7d1f03dacebda6adfe638e112e0bec2088&dn=Tessa+Fields+-+Tough+Guy+1+%2B+2&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

>>9025

Since when do the movies price tickets according to the production value of the movies they're showing? Think about the size of the audience/customer base for every example you bring up.

>>9025

>I can only assume that it is priced so high because piracy is feared or expected. But it is self fulfilling. If it was costed lower these people would make more money through volume of sales. I will pirate it until they see sense.

I'm not so convinced on that one. It's the old Economics 101 Elasticity of Demand thing. The cheaper the price, the more you sell; the higher the price, the fewer you sell.

While this is going to be true - at least to some extent - the big question is at what price do they make most money? If TF charged $10 instead of $30 would she sell (at least!) 3 times more files? She'd probably sell more but I'm not convinced she would, sell at least 3 times more since a) this is a niche market with only a limited customer base, b) people don't necessarily do a rational cost analysis when sex and/or fetish is involved and c) she might be perceived as being "too cheap" and therefore no good. (On the last point, there was another thread where some people were saying that free stuff can never be any good, which is just another type of the same way of thinking: ie too cheap (or free) must be poor quality.) Isabella Valentine's procing is very interesting. They all used to be $37 but now the prices are all over the place. There's clearly some marketing psychology going on there.

In the end. I suspect that it's down to what others are charging. They don't want to be seen as being way too expensive but they also don't want to tarnish the brand by being seen as "cheap".

>>9029

That is why the example of an indie band and hypnotist was included if you read the full post. Predicted this response and mentioned the audience size/customer base.

>>9032

Look how many people are trying to get these files for free through this website and others. There is obviously huge demand for it and lot of those people aren't willing to pay the offered price. It is them, not the prospective audience who are clearly missing out.

The only other reason I can justify the current cost… If you spend so much on one file then it will be more likely to work on you in a placebo effect sort of way. It's the same with "alternative medicine". If the drugs cost so much, then they "must work". HFO is all in the mind and so the price plays into that too and encourages it.

I think the price problem is true for all of them, they are trying to make as much as they can as quickly as possible, but I think as has been shown with other media, if you price things too high, you encourage piracy. If you price it fairly $5-$15 per experience, it doesn't de-value it as it is comparable to other media experiences.

The cost of production:price of product ratio clearly does not add up in this case and people can see right through it, thus there are huge threads like this. You don't see that much for movies or music these days, piracy in those areas is going down.

>>9033

P.S. The financial domination kink is worth a mention as it is common in femdom and could play a part in the pricing. I'm personally not in to that. What a stupid fetish imo.

>>9033

>I think the price problem is true for all of them, they are trying to make as much as they can as quickly as possible, but I think as has been shown with other media, if you price things too high, you encourage piracy. If you price it fairly $5-$15 per experience, it doesn't de-value it as it is comparable to other media experiences.

These people are in the business to make money - and they must make a minimum sum of money if they are to stay in business. It is unrealistic to criticize them for wanting to maximize their profit. Your view is that a "fair" price is $5-$15 but they clearly do not share that view - and their perspective is not to be "fair" but to maximize profit. (BTW, "fair" is just a marketing word, just like "fresh"; an emotional string-puller.) Are you arguing that they will make more money if they charge $5-$15? It's unclear to me.

>The cost of production:price of product ratio clearly does not add up in this case and people can see right through it, thus there are huge threads like this. You don't see that much for movies or music these days, piracy in those areas is going down.

The prices are unrelated to production costs, but that's not so unusual. Remember that a business will try to maximise its profit. If people want to enter the market and charge $5 for an MP3, they're free to do so. Capital cost of entry to the market is very small, so why aren't they flocking to undercut the competition?

Just curious here, but how many people do you think actually buy files? Say a well known and loved hypnodomme puts out a new thirty minute file. How many people do you think are actually going to buy it? Given that entire communities are dedicated to stealing, that most files center on a specific niche within the specific niche of hypnosis, and that people are unwilling to pay for porn in general. I'd be willing to bet that it's not thousands. It's probably not even hundreds. My guess would be under fifty. The pricing makes perfect sense in that case.

Speculation, of course. But interesting to think about.

Here's the thing folks. You can speculate all you like about pricing and what pricing tier will generate in profits. Here's what I do know after 7 years in this niche. Pricing lower does nothing but allow more of our files to be pirated. I have a dozen files on a humiliation site that can be acquired with a membership as low as 34.95 and those are my most shared files. I sold the rights to them and that's the only reason I don't file DMCAs against them. I released a $10 file and a $30 file on the same weekend and the sales were almost the same.

I also know that this is my ONLY job and I rely solely on the sales of my files to support myself. Payment processing is very hard and very expensive to maintain for this fetish. I pay $1,000 a year in Visa/MC registration fees just to keep CCBill as a payment option and between all of my sales providers, I eat up to 30% in fees. This is on top of the thousands I spend annually on stock photography for cover art with the proper licensing, advertising, website costs, and royalty free music for the backgrounds. Then you can throw in the fact that as a self employed person, I pay a shit ton of taxes.

I cannot speak for every person that produces this sort of content, but I spend anywhere from 40-60 hours on creating a single file. If I were to charge $5 for a file, as suggested, I'd have to sell an astronomical amount of MP3s to pay the bills especially when you consider that I'd be netting $3.50 per file. How is that feasible? There aren't enough hours in a week to make it possible to live at that production rate.

I've heard all the arguments about how piracy helps us and frankly, they don't apply to self employed independent producers the same way they apply to people that are actually employed by labels and production companies. I know that nothing I say here is going to inspire anyone to stop pirating, but when some of us close up shop and move on it will for many be because they simply couldn't afford to pay our bills any longer due to piracy.

I know what it is like not to be able to afford something, but I wouldn't walk into a Game Stop and steal a video game simply because I think they have priced it too high. These are entertainment items, not necessities. I fail to understand why there is an implication that we are being unfair. We're not punishing you for not being in your price range. We're trying to run businesses that give us a fair payout for the time we put in. There are tons of files out there with $0 price tag. I've put out almost a dozen of them over the years. Ember, Ellechemy & Elena have tons of free files, yet people are still in here looking for free copies of loops that Amethyst only charges $10 for. That makes it a little hard to believe that this is all about price.

It just comes down to this. You are going to continue to pirate our files and we're going to continue to file DMCAs against file hosts and torrent ISPs, but eventually the providers that you enjoy listening to are going to be forced out of business when they cannot afford to live anymore.

>>9033

>>9055

pwnt

>>9055

Hi Tessa. I'm the guy who argued that businesses need to make a profit, so, as you can imagine, I have a great deal of sympathy with your position. I fully appreciate just how hard it must be to be a self-employed person in such a niche field and understand the economic problems you face.

I can't offer you pat solutions but I'd like to throw one or two ideas into the ring. When we look at the movie and (especially) music industries, we see how they are so set in their ways and want to perpetuate their old business model: mercilessly exploit the artists and screw the punters with expensive CDs. With the advent of the Internet, that model is rapidly falling apart. You're never going to be an iTunes or Spotify, but just perhaps you can look to the reluctant evolution of the movie and music businesses for inspiration, because, in many ways, you're still rather "old school" in the way you sell your products.

In my home town a new cinema opened. At first, it was nothing special but then it introduced an "all you can view" monthly subscription that took the place by storm (IMHO). For what was around 2.5 times the cost of a single movie ticket, I got to see as many films as I wanted *for a whole month*. Wow, movie heaven! Had I regularly seen three (or more) films each month, they'd have minimally lost out but if I saw three films in a month it was the exception, not the rule. Plus, I heard that they attracted many new customers as a result of the "generous" offer. It was the proverbial win-win situation: the cinema got a guaranteed sum of money each month and I gorged myself on any movie that even slightly interested me, time permitting. In the music field, Spotify, Deezer, Rdio and a host of other streaming services are also shaking up the music distribution business, much to the disgust of the old, dinosaur corporations. Many of my friends don't bother to pirate MP3s because they know that what they want to listen to will be on their streaming service.

I think you can see where I'm going. You need to find a way of creating a *genuine* win-win for your clients. I see that you have your Platinum/Gold/Silver club memberships which are, well, ok, but not that exciting. Ditto for the themed bundles, which offer a grudging discount and certainly don't feel very win-win. There's no "50% off second purchase", for examplei, that I could find.

I offered the subscription model because it has the potential to offer a real win-win. Using our friend's $5-$15 price example, would people subscribe on a monthly basis if the cost were, say, $10 per month? During that month they could listen to, say, any 5 recordings as many times as they wanted. (The numbers are finger-in-the-air examples.) I see that as a real win-win. The cost per recording in the example is $2 and you receive $10 that you most likely would not have received before. You can finnesse the numbers and the system but the critical factor is that it should be such good value that people will a) subscribe in the first place, b) maintain the subscription and c) be so cheap that piracy isn't worth it any more. Oh, and it would ideally be a streaming-based service, not based on MP3 downloads.

I realise that it would be a lot of work to implement and the results are at best uncertain. So what are you waiting for? As Apple once (infamously) said "Think Different". Get to it!

>>9055

I understand that you're in business and have costs etc. I also understand that piracy is a fact of life that you must live with. You can complain that people are stealing bread from your table but that will make little practical difference, right? You can play DCMA whack-a-mole but that is an ultimately doomed strategy and a waste of your time and energy.

If things are that bad, then maybe it's time to look at a different business model. Someone has suggested a subscription based system with a relatively low monthly payment. It's certainly more innovative than the business model you are using.

But maybe you are happy with your business model as it stands. I see you say that you "pay a shit ton of taxes." Doesn't that mean that you make good profits already? It certainly looks that way.

And you also say "I rely solely on the sales of my files to support myself." If that's true, what is this page hypnotessa.com/live-sessions/ where you state:

My current rates are as follows:

30 min – $100

45 min – $150

$200 an hour is a sweet rate. I'm clearly a bit confused. How can you rely "solely" on the sale of your files while charging for live sessions? Does the money all go to charity, for example?

If you want to continue the way things are, then that's fine. I'm guessing that you are doing pretty well and would rather not change your business model. Continue to play your DCMA whack-a-mole but please don't whine so loud about people pirating your material. You have alternate options, you know.

>>9062

You still fail to take into account that in order for a subscription based model to work you require a larger customer base than the erotic hypnosis (audio BTW) niche fetish comprises.

Oh and Tessa, you're super hot and your voice makes my brain melt. Nice rack too.

>>9071

You could argue the same about her current business model: small niche market with even fewer people willing to pay $25-$35 for an MP3.

I don't know how many files she sells but she does say that she pays a "shit ton of taxex". She will have a much better idea of the viability of the subscription model. Maybe the MP3 are mainly serve as a shop-front so that she can make the real money on live sessions. Again, I just don't know.

What I can say is that a great number of files I listen to are simply junk (and this isn't aimed at Tessa, BTW). Right now, buying an MP3 file is just like buying a pig in a poke (yes, even with the 1-minute samplers!) That is a real disincentive to shell out hard cash for what can far too often turn out to be a big disappointment. At least the subscription model would be able to reduce the potential for disappointment, since the punter will still have 'x' more to listen to that month.

>>9071

>Nice rack too.

LOL, I went to her site and there is an alluring photo of the lady with her "rack" just out of sight below the bottom of the screen, so I naturally scrolled down, being just a bit curious.

Instead of revealing Tessa's assets, the scroll-down caused some kind of curtain to rise and obscure what little we can already see of her. What a tease!

>>9069

Tessa,

Although its been nearly two decades since I lived in my mother's basement, I'd still like to apologize on behalf of the guys who still do. These thieves/giant pussies have no appreciation for what it means to strike out on their own and provide for themselves in the real world. They've never taken the initiative to start up a small business and then put in the hard work it takes to even attempt to make a success out of it. Hell, I've never had the balls to try that. (I just don't think that a Professional Goddess Worshiper and Pastry Chef is in very high demand these days. If I'm wrong, please feel free to contact me. I work really cheap, and my technique is gentle yet passionate. I also walk dogs and give foot massages. And boob massages.) They've never known the frustration of having banks and payment processors ban them. They've never had to listen to someone tell them that stealing their work is justifiable because its relatively easy and there is no way to prosecute them individually. If robbing you required them to physically break into your home and take some real risk, their cowardice would keep them honest. But since all of your products are electronic and only accessible via an anonymous internet connection, they happily steal your intellectual property and then "share" it with all the other unemployable virgins. As someone with no stake in this game, except the fear that you and others will quit the business due to piracy, I find it hilarious the way these dudes justify their actions. They blame you for charging too much. They tell you your business model is outdated. They criticize you for having the nerve to make an honest living on your own. If they even had a basic understanding of economics and how the American tax system works, they'd realize the ignorance of their statements. And frankly I have a feeling that there are sexist motivations behind some of their ideas concerning what they believe is "fair" for what you should be allowed to earn doing this. I'm afraid that the days of applauding women for their hard work and entrepreneurship are over. After all, you make erotic content. How dare you make a profit on your own without a man to guide you through the complicated business world.

>>9062

>>9069

>>9072

I think the subscription is an interesting idea to offer as an alternative, at least to experiment, but comparing it to the music industry is very off and somewhat disingenuous. You can't apply one to another when they operate in entirely different worlds. A narrow demographic niche market can't take advantage of that broad reach where 5% pay and the rest still pirate. At least now those that do pay are at that niche price point.

Do you people believe it's more likely she can maintain 300 monthly subscribers at $10 a month, demanding 5 files, or sell 50 copies of bimonthly released files at $30/each? Not to mention those people that will be buying past files from interest at later dates, or with any type of sales, albeit at a lesser amount.

The subscription also doesn't give a steady guarantee either as a large amount of people will not continue past a month, especially as it's a subscription to a single hypnodomme and not a million song library of music. Essentially there's nothing stopping $2 becoming the new price floor to any one of her files.

Tessa is the only one who hold the sales data and tracked interest on her website to be able to judge the feasibility of this. But it's easy to see from her perspective that this will probably only increase piracy as more of her files are shared around. People pirate $1 phone games, the price doesn't matter. If you believe something has value and have a job you'll pay the price (in reason). For many of the people here and that do pirate it's clearly a decision between free or don't bother.

I don't want to come across as saying pirates are entitled, it's just the reality of this community. The scale of sharing seems very disproportionate to the number of creators, anyone can look at the thousands of people sharing terabytes of fdhypno on giga to see that. It's good that people here seem at least sincere coming to some kind of mutually beneficial answer, and I believe something close to this should be attempted because business innovation is important. However, trying to changing the whole industry for the ones that have somehow managed to survive this far in is dangerous, and at the end of the day it's Tessa that has to bear all of that risk to her livelihood.

>>9077

I aired the subscription "thesis". You might reasonably say I was inaccurate or it was inappropriate to use the music industry but it's grossly unfair to say that I was being disingenuous. (Definition: lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere.) I took the time to help the lady out with some off-the cuff ideas. Sheesh, it's not a business plan, just some alternative, constructive ideas.

The local cinema was my model for the subscription idea. The music business was used to illustrate how the streaming services are eating the dinner of the big boys and how people who subscribe to such services are less inclined to pirate MP3s (and, it has to be said, also less inclined to buy CDs). Neither the movie nor the music industry are remotely like the hypnofetish scene but we can at least try to glean some lessons from elsewhere and apply them to this matter.

I have no idea what sales Tessa makes or whether the subscription business model would work. She will know her current status but will have much less idea how an alternative model would work in practice. Hence, I expect that inertia will rule the day, but who knows?

>>9080

Fair enough, I didn't mean to attack you, just deconstruct the idea a bit. The two best examples of subscription services are Netflix and Spotify. The former is profitable and I assume makes decent money for the publishers, but the latter makes no money and the artist doesn't fair well at all. Then again there's also the difference that Tessa is the owner, publisher, and creator, bearing all the risk and all the revenue past service shares.

I'm sure frequent deep discounts has been attempted to drive sales and boost the audience as well, so at this point there aren't too many places to go are there. The price equilibrium for fdhypno files seems to have found itself in the $0.70 to $0.90 per minute range across many of the storefronts. I wouldn't suspect all of them are being greedy, just realistic and trying to support themselves as creatives.. The price elasticity is what it is and that's tough to get around, especially as a small business that can't research the market very effectively.

So I don't think it's fair to say Tessa is being old-fashioned like some seem to imply. As well, protecting her copyright is her prerogative and is almost necessary to exercise with this community, which it's fair to say is very sharing, probably not surprising for what the content is and it's form as primarily audio files. I would hope the argument of "try before you buy" is actually the case and some convert to supporters, but that's pretty naive based on what I've seen.

The case here isn't any different from any other type of niche market, it's a pattern that's hard to subvert, and any marginal success has to be guarded which is why we see it play out the same way every time. I'm glad Tessa can hopefully shine some light on the reality, even it might look like she's taking the fun away for some.

>>9085

Peace and love, bro.

Deep discounts don't always work or can be counter-productive, for a variety of reasons. They are, at best, of short-term benefit but cannot save an ailing business. I have an unfortunate tendency to just miss out on such time-limited offers (not necessarily hypno-related) so they don't generally work with me.

I do think Tessa is being "old school" in her approach but then so are all the rest. (And that's unrelated to protection of IP, BTW.) Individuals do not always make decisions based solely on their individual preferences and private information. Often, they are influenced by the decisions of others. The price equilibrium you refer may simply reflect this dynamic at work. It takes a brave person to break out of this groupthink, given the potential risks if it doesn't work out. Who'll be the first to try?

>>9087

That's true the discounts can be counter-productive, and it creates a weird expectation in place as well. I think some kind of regular discount is beneficial to bringing customers eyes back to the store on a more frequent basis, but yes beyond that it's not really a solution.

Someone can try to be disruptive with their prices, though maybe someone already has and failed, or didn't have the built-in audience for it to succeed yet. If an artist could half their prices and not necessarily double the audience but at least provide a solid growth trend then it would be worth it. There's also Patreon as another subscription type, which some like eSuccubus use mixed with free files, thought it only looks moderately successful and has 129 supporters at the moment. I can't judge the audience between them so who knows what another entrant would do. It just seems hard to market all these things and gain any insight into what people actually want.

I'm just going to address a couple of points here as I really wasn't aware that posting was going to open up such a large debate.

First, I only chimed in on the pricing in defense of the content creators in this niche as there often seems to be a misconception that our pricing is based on greed or some sort of follow the leader concept. I'm a numbers girl. I've developed sales and forecasting algorithms based on the data I've collected over the years. For obvious reasons, ladies are not sharing their sales data and trends with one another. I only know one person that has shared that information with me and our patterns are very similar, but that by no means should be taken as had proof that every provider has the same flow of income.

As much as I actually appreciate it that alternative pricing and delivery methods have been offered up for consideration, none are all that viable in this niche. Anything streaming can be stolen PERIOD which just makes the price of piracy that much cheaper and significantly devalues the product even further. There is also the sense of ownership that is important to so many and having that "go to" file on hand is very important to them. One must also consider that there are a great amount of people in rural areas that are still on dial up and streaming services are not an option in the sound quality these files require. In addition, the resources required to maintain streaming services at the proper compression rate is much more expensive than one might expect. I considered offering up a "listening room" area to new trancers and the costs associated with making it a viable and reliable platform were simply not cost effective by a staggering margin.

In regards to my "old fashioned" business model…this isn't a matter of just doing what others are doing or not being able to figure out something new and innovative. It's a matter of what we are able to provide with the payment platforms we are limited to.

One last thing, and take it as you will. I never came in here crybabying about how your putting me out of business and now I can't afford to feed my dogs. I simply thought I'd shed some light on the pricing debate. I'm a big girl and business woman. I understand that piracy is one of the unfortunate costs of doing business in a digital medium, but I do know know of 2 individuals in particular that had to close up shop as a direct result of piracy. We can put a dress on a pig and call it whatever we want,but its still a pig and whatever justification you slap on your reasons for pirating intellectual property doesn't change the fact that it is an illegal copyright violation and a crime. I know it and you know it so let's not pretend it is anything beyond not wanting to pay a set price for an item no matter how high or low the cost.

Nonetheless, thank you to those that put thoughtful effort into this conversation. It was enlightening.

>>9093

I'm >>9077 >>9085 >>9089

Before anyone jumps on you for this, the idea given wasn't a streaming platform but a flat monthly rate for continued content, so just a different way to deliver the same product. I think people may be frustrated because they see this one type of model dominating and at rather luxury price points, but it's interesting that you've tracked the data and done some trend analysis to quantify on some level why that is. It's not about whether it can be stolen or not, but at what point does the perceived value surpass the cost, and where convenience and the desire to support the creator takes precedence. You say you're a numbers girl, so I'm assuming you've already decided whether or not price experimentation is worth it or not.

Though tough love usually has the opposite effect on the people sharing your files.

>>9097

Okay I'm totally wrong actually it was streaming. Yeah I'm not sure the bandwidth would justify that, but I don't know much about that stuff, carry on.

It's not just about price, but quality for me now. I have bought files in the past and felt like a sucker because of their terrible quality. I don't want that feeling again.

>>9107

Absolutely agree, if by terrible quality you mean that the hypno content sucks, rather than the audio quality is poor. This was also mentioned by poster >>9072 above.

Potential buyers of these files have no realistic way of knowing the quality of the content before buying a file. At least with movies we have a whole load of opinions on the web when choosing whether to go to the cinema or buy a DVD.

I agree with a previous poster that most content out there is actually not very good (or worse) and that the present pay-to-download set-up does nothing to address this large disincentive to buy.

>>9055

>>9093

This thread is a looney bin. I can't help but chime in though. I have not listened to your files (yet) but I'm already a fan. I appreciate your stance and everything you have said so far.

For the enjoyment and personal enrichment of my fellow unemployables, I'd like to write a brief confession.

I've been stealing files left and right for a few years now. I have a whole bunch of files that I just downloaded from threads on this board five or six at a time and never listened to. I'm like a pirate who sinks ships without boarding them. Isn't that twisted?

I've downloaded many of the torrents that are out there. If I listen to one file per night I could go many years letting my dick twitch to the sound of all these gleaned freebies, but the truth is they just kind of sit there decaying one byte at a time.

Here's how I justify it all to myself. In my mind I download a whole bunch just so that I can skip through several files and see what the quality is like, get a feel for the overall structure of the files, the personality of the hypnotist, etc. Usually they're kind of a let down so I move on. Kind of an unauthorized sampling thing. Except it's not, because when I do like a hypnotist's recordings…since I have the files already…am I really going to go…buy them…?

I think there are a few things going on with me in this pattern of behavior. Part of it is an anxious collector's frenzy thing, like somebody obsessed with filling a library with books they've never opened. Then there's just a fear of buyer's regret, like I'm going to spend $45 on something that turns out to be formulaic and not very trance-y. But to pretentiously self-psychoanalyze a little, I think an unconscious motivation for pirating files instead of buying them is not wanting my actual name and identity to be associated with this secret little hobby of mine, to protect beliefs that part of myself holds dear, such as that I'm not weak, I'm not a slave, I'm not yada yada yada. Pirating allows me to compartmentalize this behavior and remain partially in denial that I have these perverse fantasies.

No excuses for the way I'm acting. I just wanted to open up a little insight into my own behavior as I think it is likely not too different from others on the board.

Lastly, to Tessa & other dommes reading this – I think a great way to head off some of the piracy would be to actively post here, as Elena, Ember, and a few others sometimes do. I think people have this fantasy that this board is a T09 53CR3T M355AGE B04RD that nobody will ever find out about. People are trading in this illusion of secrecy because they need to cover up their shame that they are listening to femdom hypnosis files, and piracy is a part of that alibi. You're never going to get money out of some of the pirates, but there's a lot of support and loyalty to be gained from looking the problem in the face like Tessa just did. I wonder if it would even be helpful if a few tists created some freebies that helped people get past the need for their fetish to be a secret.

Or maybe I'm just speaking for myself. Thoughts from anyone?

>>9127

Apart from the very first sentence, that's a great post. This whole scene might be a bit of a loony bin, but overall the thread seems to be more intelligent and controversial than the usual shit that gets posted and your post has added a few IQ points to the collective score.

I'd just point out what I (>>9069) said earlier turns out to be true. The lady is doing just fine, so we don't need to worry about keeping her in her next Mercedes-Benz. And no mention of her "misspeak" that she relies solely on her files to feed her dogs. Color me surprised.

You are right, some of the (female and male!) tists out there do try to engage with the community, which is great, but most don't. Whether it will reduce piracy I can't say, but it's good that they do reach out. Unfortunately, I think Tessa's tone of engagement is more along the lines of "get off my lawn", but then she seems to be a lady more into cashflow analysis, spreadsheets and DCMA than being touchy-feely with the community.

And yeah, most material is kind of a let down. It really is no wonder people don't want to pay big bucks for it.

>>9129

>And yeah, most material is kind of a let down. It really is no wonder people don't want to pay big bucks for it.

Amen to that. There are very few that I've listened to that I regularly want to return to. Off the top of my head, I return to Nikki Fatale, Charlotte/Ember, Mistress Joanne and Mistress Carol. All pretty vanilla, I admit, but they all produce/d quality material, even if MJ's earlier works often required a bit of cleaining up in Audacity. Since this is officially a TF thread, I'm afraid Tessa doesn't generally make it to my repeat list. Sorry. :(

So paying $25-$35 to listen to a file once or twice and then realise what a lemon you bought doesn't make a lot of sense, given that the odds are high it'll be a lemon.

Anyone actually posting files?

Tough Guy 2 would be super nice :)

>>9137

>>9026 is your friend

>>9127

There's nothing weak about submission, dude. Have you ever actually engaged in real life BDSM, or hell, even watched someone else online? It takes a brutal level of strength and self-discipline to submit or to play the part of slave. Give yourself a little credit. There's nothing shameful about any of this.

>>9074

i'm not sure i've ever seen someone white knight this hard, i was about to claim that your post is borderline pathetic, but, i would be wrong as there is nothing "borderline" about your post. it is flat out the most pathetic post i have ever read on any chan.

>>9137

>Tough Guy 2 would be super nice :)

I take it you've tried TG1. Do you really think TG2 will be any better? Trust me, it's just as lame. :)

>>9146

That criticism is in bad taste, although laser accurate. You should try to be a little more sensitive towards the feelings of such unfortunate people. Generally better to leave things unsaid, IMO.

Hey I got a file 'kissedagirl.mp4' from this thread, it's a katy perry music video with loads of subliminals, anybody know what it does?

>>9149

Facts > Feelings.

>>9155

>Facts > Feelings.

Difficult to argue with that!

>>9148

I like TG1. I really like it :)

>>9166

Then I think you might like TG2. I found TG1 a bit of a let down especially after I read a description of the file where Tessa said that she had spent time researching HFO before producing TG1. as always, YMMV.

>>9148

>>9184

What exactly don't you like about Tough Guy? Its by far the best hfo session I've ever listened to. She builds arousal through sexual imagery and erotic fantasy. The trigger itself actually relates to orgasm. Unlike " jackpot", which is the most overrated pile of crap I've ever heard. I'm sorry but telling me to "glow" and "tingle" and never mentioning sex is not going to make me cum. Plus, Tough Guy is just really sexy. If you're gonna hate on Tough Guy at least give some detail about why you think it's "lame".

>>9188

You seem to be very defensive about TG1. I have not expressed any opinion about Jackpot and simply said that I "found TG1 to be a bit of a let down". I didn't describe it as being lame like >>9148 but I'd be happy to describe it as being unexceptional, ineffective for me and overall disappointing. I also wouldn't (and didn't) say that I "hate" it, just that I can't raise any enthusiasm for what I find to be a session that is nothing above the ordinary. And as I also added, YMMV. You clearly seem to like it, whereas I clearly don't. I hope that is now clear enough.

>>9189

Post 9190 should have been directed to you but inexplicably points to 9188.

So, TG2 eh?

Bueller?

>>9148

Really? I liked it. Hated the first one but i came handsfree for the second after as second listen. Shit was glorious but i'm into all that shit anyways.

bamp for tough guy

>>9761

Torrent on >>9026 is still up.

>>4032

This and Locked in Your Cage would be awesome

anyone have Forever - Tease & Denial or Silly Boy?

>>6762

Would love this one aswell.

Could someone *please* post up TG2?

>>9810 see >>9763

Could somebody reupload all the files?

>>9834

Care to define "all" files? You can get TG1/2 from the torrent. What else are you talking about?

I mean:

back door masturbation

you love cum

say it

mistress want 1

mistress wants 3

the gamble

cum like her

fall for me

say it

Would appreciate if someone could reupload

I'd like to get Full Frontal Assault and maybe The Brainwash

Anyone have cum too soon 3 yet?

cum 2 soon 2 would be great

>>9093

See its not the pricing that is actually an issue here. I will be honest. There is a whole industry that works of pirating said files and reupping them for 'free'. When anyone tries to download said files - we end up clicking pay links and these guys make money out of it.

In a way, people who are pirating are not as much to blame as say people who pirated the video in the first place. I dont think even 10 people here know how to get files off of your site or other sites for free.

The reason you get the same number of 'copies sold' on a 10$ and a 30$ file is because the number of people buying them is the same. Nothing else.

If purchasing files didnt show up like this on my credit card, i would be buying a lot more. Its just that i dont want my accountant or other people who have access to my bills know what i am spending my money on.

thats all i have to say here. If there is some other method of payment that doesnt leave a trace like this, many many more people would be buying your stuff. And stuff from other people too.

Anyone have "full frontal assault"

Would love if somebody would upload some files from her…especially Full frontal assault und cant stop stroking

Does anybody have her "cum 2 s00n 3"

Sorry. I meant to say "Cum 2 S00n f0r3pl@y"

some one can share "trust fall" or cts4?

>>11348

I have 1

>>11366

can u share it in giga or mega?

bump for trust fall

>>9108

This is honestly the problem I have with buying Hypnosis MP3s.

Because it's really niche, it's hard to tell the quality of a file and whether or not it would cater to you for a few reasons; but my biggest concern is reviews/opinions on these files.

If reviews/opinions for a certain MP3 exist; there's almost no criticism or negativity most of the time. It's something I can understand to a degree because if the people that bought it were looking for a file like x or y in particular, of course they'd like it. I just can't help but be as skeptical as ever. You can like a file and still have problems with it. Most reviews like the ones I see on Amethyst's site make her all of her MP3s sound like 10/10s

Like for example I bought a file from Elena once because the description sounded very enticing, however it was nothing like I thought it would be so I felt jipped. At the end of the day I didn't really mind because at least it supported her.

I delivered with the torrent of Tough Guy, shall we get one up for the Cum Too Soon series?

Please send files to cum2soon@hmamail.com

>>11849

Just a minor clarification of the word "delivered". I sent you the TG1/2 files myself and you created a torrent for them, since, as I explained, I can't seem to create initial seed torrents on my machine.

IMO it's therefore a bit iffy for you to be asking someone to send you the files PERSONALLY unless you intend to create a torrent from them.

>>11853

Just like with TG I'll create a torrent and seed it. I seed TG as often as my machine is on, but it's not indexed on TPB anymore for some reason which lowers the potential for other seeders I think.

>>11859

Cheers. Good to hear.

>>11860

of course.

If someone has files then please email them and I will make torrent with full series.

if anyone has them could they please email me cum too soon 3 and cum too soon: foreplay?

>>11891

unsure if you read above

i am collecting these atm will make torrent with them all

>>11964

What are you missing? I have 1 and 2.

>>11970

not been sent anything yet if you could send 1 + 2 to cum2soon@hmamail.com that would be great :)

lets see how quickly we can get the collection, id prefer to upload a complete series

did anyone ever get Full Frontal Assault?

>>9055

If you had an ounce of business sense, you would realize that the industry you are participating in is built on sand.

Data has no intrinsic value so any price paid for it is basically a donation, and once it hits the internet it is damned to piracy, forcing you to rely on the mercy, rather than want, of anyone that would buy your product.

I'd look into crowdfunding or even ransoming if I were you, because as others have said, in this niche quality and trust in the content creator are important, therefore few are willing to shell out to gamble on the hope one put effort into their latest track.

That said, I hope you have the cut throat and team working sensibilities to survive for as long as you wish.

Anyone has T0ugh G7y buy T3ssa F1elds ?

anyone have "save it"?

Looking for anything to do with forcing premature ejaculation like the CUM TOO SOON mp3's (would love if someone could post or send to me).