/hypno/ - Hypnochan

Here's the 22 "legends": Amethyst, Anonymistress, Charlotte Gray, Elena (eSuccubus), Ellechemy, Ember Larimar, Emma Evans (Trance), Goddess Lycia, Kasha Shakti, Lady Christine, Isabella Valentine, Mistress Candice, Mistress Carol, Mistress Joanne, Mistress Marisa, Mistress of Hypnosis, Mistress Zaida, Mona Blu, MzDominica, Nikki Fatale, Shelle Rivers, and Tessa Fields.

And here is the voting link, it's open through Tuesday 12/22.

Warning: You CANNOT change your vote after you submit.

http://strawpoll.me/6283881

You can vote for as many hypnotists as you want, but just the top four will advance straight to the knockout stage. The rest will move on to the group stage along with all the names posted in this thread. I'll start off with a couple of my favorites that weren't among the legends: Lady Radiance and Lee Allure.

How about an open vote for the first round? There are a few good tists not in the list.

Of course this is just a inraptured self glorification pile of shit. But yeah, even so it's lame with the preselection. Let people suggest their favourites, not just their favourites of your list.

This isn't voting for the best tist in the world. It's voting for the best tist in your tiny list. Pathetic!

>>12055

What you're suggesting is exactly what's going on. It's the "Qualification" part. This first week everyone can nominate whoever they want, and all those names will be added to the group stage. I started it off with Lady Radiance and Lee Allure, feel free to add your own.

The "Seeding" voting is basically practice. The top four will skip the group stage, but the rest will be placed into groups based on their results (#5 in group A, #6 in group B, etc.). This way the biggest names won't all end up in the same group. That being said, I'm expecting a lot of the hypnodommes that people suggest in this thread to make it through the group stage, beating out those from the "inraptured self glorification pile of shit" list. Of course I could've started with a lot more than 22 names, but I thought even that was overwhelming.

You must really be bored this holiday season, honestly. No Hypnodomme is ever or will ever be "the best" because every person responds differently to whatever situation, recording, or even live session they're experiencing in any given moment.

But you have fun with it even so.

I wouldn't rate any one as the best. There are several quality criteria to choose from. Hypnotic Dreams wrote the best scripts. Kasha Shatki has the most sensual voice. Mistress Love and Isabella Valentine have the best recording quality. Mona Blu does the best multi track subliminal mixing (in some recordings, not all).

>>12059

No, it's not. You selected who qualifies as a potential "best tist". You can't suggest other tist.

Just a pathetic pr stunt. If it were a true competition, people would be able to vote for EVERY tist there is, and then the top howevermany would go in the competition!

>>12062

I said as much in my first post, that everyone has their own definition of "best". It's the same with everything, there's no objectively "best" tv show or "best" cookie recipe or "best" football player. Yet people still like to talk about those things.

>>12066

Again, this is exactly what's happening. If you want someone to be in the competition all you have to do is write their name and then you'll be able to vote for them during the group stage (12/23-1/3). Obviously I don't know every hypnodomme on the planet (for example, I'd never heard of Hypnotic Dreams), that's why I need people to offer up their favorites in this thread.

The top 4 of the 22 advance straight to the knockout stage while the other 18 are combined with the names from the thread. So far there's only been four (Lady Radiance, Lee Allure, Hypnotic Dreams, Mistress Love), but to make the math nice let's assume that we end up with 42. Then there's a total of 18 + 42 = 60 names to be divided into six groups, which means 10 people in each group. Each group will have its own poll, and the top 2 in each group will move on to the knockout stage. That's how we get the 4 + 2 * 6 = 16 people in the knockout tournament.

Cool idea. Bit of fun that can't hurt.

I just hope to hell that the top 8 most voted hypnotists don't turn out to be chicks who just read other people's scripts.

Knowing what I know about this community and their irrational attachment to certain script readers, I will be disappointed but democracy ain't perfect.

I'm still looking forward to watching it unfold.

Thanks OP for your effort!

>>12070

Again - no. On the voting site you linked there is NO way to add names.

>>12080

Write the 'tist's name in this thread and he'll add them into the group stages. The poll is just seeding the most popular/obvious ones for now.

>>12077

Is it common knowledge who are only script readers and who aren't? It doesn't matter too much to me personally, but knowing that a hypnotist does everything from top to bottom definitely makes me respect their work a bit more.

To the overall topic, I don't see the harm in vetting a consensus, though I get that people are more personally attached to certain things. It's better than those shitty tier lists I remember seeing on NFC.

>>12098

Most (not all) of the names in that 'legends' list I consider true hypnotists but I swear if Nikki wins this competition I will shit a brick.

Of course it's just my opinion. Everyone gets a say here.

I'll be adding a bunch of names to the group stage, but if there's favorite hypnodommes you want to be included, you should let me know. If I wasn't running this thing, I'd probably suggest these names:

Fiona Clearwater

HypnoQueen

Hypnotic Haylee

Madam Violet

Mira Stern

Miss Mary

Mistress Alexandra

Samantha Bandler

Shayna

Queen Leigha

Orgasmic Giggles

MISTRESS CANDICE

Shuld have guessed someone wuld throw the vote.

>>12154

Do you mean the way mzdominica went from being almost last to being in second place within 24 hours (a gain of approx. 60 votes)?

>>12154

Do you mean the way mzdominica went from being almost last to being in second place within 24 hours (a gain of approx. 60 votes)?

One more for Lycia and Candice.

That sucks. I guess I'll use vote totals from earlier today. Sorry to anyone who hadn't yet voted in the preliminary round.

I'll still take names through tomorrow (midnight EST, 25 hours from now). Everyone in the list of 22 is already in, you don't need to repeat them.

Here are the voting links, they're open through Sunday 1/3.

Warning: You CANNOT change your vote after you submit.

A: http://strawpoll.me/6343730

B: http://strawpoll.me/6343749

C: http://strawpoll.me/6343763

D: http://strawpoll.me/6343776

E: http://strawpoll.me/6343784

F: http://strawpoll.me/6343792

Only the top two in each group advance, so pick the best hypnodommes not just the names you recognize. As before, you can vote for as many or as few as you'd like in each group. Also, only vote once, don't be a dick. If someone does spam, don't retaliate by spamming yourself, that only makes it harder to correct.

>>12184

Dear god, it's happening.

A script reader takes top seed by a margin that suggests people don't know what a "hypnotist" is.

In this case, the hypnotist is Bob.

Maybe he should be in the draw.

>>12196

Oh, no! Once again the masses ruin a massively super important internet poll with their ignorance! Such a tragedy :(((((

Or: Nikki is always going to popular in these polls because she has high quality files that are safe and palatable for the many people who wants to enjoy hypnotic erotica but aren't hardcore about D/s.And at least for me, her voice is so charismatic that I don't care who wrote what - her presence is a huge part of the package. (And btw: According to the home page, many of her best scripts were written by RC, not Bob)

lol Has Dominica been DQ'ed? I legitimately voted for her and Marquesa to advance in Group F. There was no need for her to cheat she might have advanced without it.

>>12213

The DQ was just for the preliminary round. Someone spammed votes for her and Joanne at the end, which obviously don't count. However, I didn't know exactly how many votes each had before that happened, so I decided to just put them both at the end of the list with 'DQ' rather than guess at their correct vote totals. Dominica and Joanne can both still advance from their groups.

people should be sad about how many voted for IV tbh. The fact that anyone thinks IV is legit needs to go google what she looks like. Instant boner kill man. White Whale Holy Grail.

>>12221

I know what she looks like, and I don't find her repulsive.

But her appearance has nothing to do with the creativity of some of her files, which is why I voted.

>>12185

Voting for the group stage is open for a couple more days (48 hours from now). I'll post the results and the next round sometime on Monday.

>>12446

Ok but it seems like it'll all be bullshit even still.

I mean, MzDominica is just going to keep voting for herself to win, no matter which round it is. Probably should disqualify her for all rounds.

Looks like Vive found the polls too and started spamming votes, because there's zero chance people are liking him to that margin compared to women… especially some of the women he's up against. No way. That's just not how the gender preference of most hypno fans works out. Plus we know he hangs on these boards. Seems like bullshit there too.

>>12466

Because your taste is the ultimate, and if anyone has another opinion it's fake. You're quite the moron.

I actually voted for both. If you don't like the results go to your mommy and cry there. You're the one bullshitting.

>>12466

The rant of a pissed of wannabe tist camgirl who only got one vote: her own. Ignore it.

>>12466

I doubt it's the artists themselves. But anyway, I have it under control.

What is this? You really threw me out of it on terms of "no male hypnotist can have 50 fans / votes"? Seriously?

You might keep in mind that I have far more patrons than I had votes (even without a ton of premium files only the patrons get). And I would think someone who is willing to pay me just because they like my work, would also vote for me…

I also have over 150k unique visitors a month. But 50 votes is unbelievable?

Beyond that I probably get quite a few of the votes from women, while the votes from men are evenly distributed among countless female tists.

Give me some credit for my work here.

Being disqualified because a single homophobe asshole says a man can't have fans… wtf?

Don't add me in the first time if you just ignore my results anyway.

P.S. And without any comment or reason (not to mention proof) why I "disappeared" you pretty much agree with >>12466 that I must have fakes it. To me that pretty much defamation.

I wont accept these lies.

I have been made aware of this Tournament from the Blogpost ViVe made after being kicked out of it. And I really do not understand the reasoning behind this. Why is it not believeable that a Hypnotist with the consistency and dedication that ViVe shows has this amount of votes?

Looking at his Group I will not say I would have voted for him 100%. But it would come down to choosing between Joanne and ViVe for me.

Then do not add him beforehand if you cannot believe that others will vote for him. Kicking him out and saying he spammed the votes without any proof only because he is male is just wrong.

>>12552

Well put. ViVe is a talented and hard-working hypnotist who has created a large body of high-quality work that's mostly free.

Accusations of spamming are just a cheap shot and should not have been acted upon.

>>12548

Maybe you should ask questions before jumping to conclusions?

I deleted the votes of a few spammers. This affected many hypnotists, not just you.

For example, last Wednesday (after the poll had been open for a week) you had 9 votes total, 8th place in your group. Then, half an hour later, you had 26 votes, tied for the lead. Someone voted for you 17 times (and didn't vote for anyone else). That's spam, and I don't count it.

Asking questions before jumping to conclusions?! How about offering out updates with what is going on in regards to the issue so as to avoid any misunderstandings?

You include ViVe in the competition, yet start mud slinging, libel, crying foul play and backpedalling when he begins to win!

If as you state there was spam voting going on, you should have clearly made mention of this and attempted to rectify it. Not saying that you "have it under control" and then disqualifying people from the poll without so much as a word nor shred of evidence.

Seems to me to be a rouse to get ViVe out of the running in case he did encourage his fan base to vote at some point in the tournament. Wouldn't look to good for a pro-inraptured tournie now would it ? Though the first mention of it on his site was today, I would have loved to have seen the tournament results if ViVe had mentioned it sooner! I know that I and many others would gladly have voted for him!

>>12556

Well he's not on the chart, so your vote cleaning left him with at most 12 votes out of that supposed 50.

So assuming that you quoted the most egregious votespam there (because I figure you'd go to the strongest example first to prove your point), then legit+17spam = 29 votes, meaning the other 21 or so votes were all spam too? That seems a bit much.

I agree with >>12558 That there should have been a lot more transparency about your fiddling with the vote totals.

At the very least, it's a bit mean to just cut out the people who aren't in the top six of their group, since I imagine they and their fans would like to see how they went, rather than just a "Nope, they don't rank".

Especially so if we apparently can't rely on the actual results of the strawpoll.

Speaking of which, surely there's some better poll setup you can use than strawpoll, it's got absolutely no measures against this sort of thing, it's just a case of opening the voting page or hitting back and you're good to vote again.

But yeah, another person who voted for ViVe (and Mistress Joanne) in group E here, in the interests of making a show of hands.

>>12556

That was the time when I was in a big hypno chat and someone mentoned it to me. After that a few of those people voted (and I like to stress that I didn't ask them, it was their idea).

So your "someone" were actually a lot of someones. And fair and square votes.

P.S. Show me some resonable proof that someone manipulated it (and btw - i know by now more than ten people voted for me, just the number of people who contacted me by now and told me they voted for me is bigger) and I shut up. But the way this this all happend is… suboptimal!

Implying that I have to fake for 50somewhat votes is very damaging! Even worse for a hypnotist, because it destroys trust. It hurts everyone who listens to my files!

>>12556

P.P.S. you say that single votes (for just one tist) are unbelievable (for me). Yet you want me to believe that the tists who got all their votes counted fully only had multiple votes and not a single one just for them?

That's about as statistically likely as winning the lottery three times in a row. So you clearly use different rules for different tists.

And it's pretty obviously a feign reason for kicking me out.

>>12568

>P.P.S. you say that single votes (for just one tist) are unbelievable (for me). Yet you want me to believe that the tists who got all their votes counted fully only had multiple votes and not a single one just for them?

Single-tist votes wasn't what he saw as a problem, it was the fact that 17 identical votes for a single 'tist came in all at once, which is exactly what it'd look like if someone was spamming.

…Though I'm curious to know how he knew it, since I'm pretty sure strawpoll doesn't have any sort of tracking that'd allow you to see it: if it's just that he just happened to check it when the vote difference was obvious and thus assume it was being spammed, that seems like a pretty flawed method of detecting spam.

>So you clearly use different rules for different tists.

I'm pretty sure there's been more votes since the poll ended, but assuming the difference isn't too great you can see a bunch of the other hypnotists lost votes in the count too:

in group E, Mistress Joanne's got 46 (so probably about 40 during polltime? Complete guess, really) but she's only counted as 24 in the results, and Haylee's got 28 right now and 18 in the chart (though I suppose a 10 vote difference *could* come from the extra votes.

Y'know what, let's just list them all at their current numbers.

Postvote result:recorded result

Kasha Shakti

31:31

(Interesting, since it guarantees she both lost no votes and had no late votes)

Tessa Fields

38:29

Mistress Joanne

46:24

Liv Wilde

27:20

Hypnotic Haylee

28:18

Goddess Gracie

13:13

ViVe

68:<13

Mistress Sennet

17:<13

(just going to assume the next few got what was listed, since they're already below 13)

Princess Angel

12

Soforia

12

Miss Lily

9

Lady Lana

6

Cam Diva

5

Queen Passionate

4

EMG

3

>>12568

>P.P.S. you say that single votes (for just one tist) are unbelievable (for me). Yet you want me to believe that the tists who got all their votes counted fully only had multiple votes and not a single one just for them?

You had 29 single votes. The second highest person had 4.

This is a tournament to see which hypnodommes the 8chan community likes the most.

It is not a tournament to see which hypnodommes the ViVe chatroom likes the most.

If you want to set up your own poll and give it to your followers, go right ahead. I'm sure you'll be surprised at the results…

>>12570

Did Mistress Joanne really have such a large amount of spam votes as well? She seems to have lost a bunch too, assuming the counter hasn't been inflated a ton after the time was up.

>>12569

The second graphic in >>12533 has the final totals. ViVe's at 10.

>>12572

Ah, whoops, thanks.

>>12571

Yeah she had a lot, and Dominica and Cleopatra and Lycia and Violet and others. I did my best to remove the spam and keep the legitimate votes, but it's an art not a science.

>>12574

The art of manipulation, so you get the results you want?

I didn't tell them to vote. I didn't tell them there was a vote. And it wasn't my chat.

Good. Let's say those are the 17… where did my other 30 go?

This doens't feel like a competition, but a pr stunt and you're doing everything to have some specific winner.

I wonder if we know who "Tourney" is, once this so called "Tournament" has a winner.

And beyond it all - there is still the indirect cheating accusation. Trust is everything for a tist if you want to have results.

P.S. Also - if you say people I know can't vote - how do you know it happened for no other tist?

Maybe one of the ones who made it actually asked people? But there it's ok? Again, different rules for different tist, not a fair competition!

>>12577

>The art of manipulation, so you get the results you want?

>This doens't feel like a competition, but a pr stunt and you're doing everything to have some specific winner.

Your epic levels of righteous butthurt are clouding your judgment, man.

We've all known how this thing will end since day 1. There is no conspiracy against you or anyone else who got spam votes, even if it makes you feel better to pretend there is.

Nikki will win and confirm one simple fact. Most guys who are into femdom hypnosis are really into "femdom as interpreted by a man, created and written by a man, read by a female voice puppet". Old news.

I originally thought I'd learn nothing interesting from this thing. While I still think the winner has been a lock the whole time, I have to admit the freakish, immature, melodramatic reactions and white-knighting over a silly little poll on a chan are pretty damn informative.

I would think tits are a prerequisite.

Don't care about stupid shit like this tbh, I like what I like, and what I like gives me the hardest boner. Some people here get way too wrapped up in this scene.

Well this was fun guys!

I can't believe you faggots are getting butthurt over a fucking meaningless tournament held on a super obscure hypnosis board. You're all fucking stuck up morons. Learn to chill a bit, yeah?

>>12579

This.

You are my new favorite person.

Don't take it personally.

this shit is funny as fuck

The amount of anonymous posts clearly written by ”tourney“ is ridiculous.

But I don't blame them. It's becoming abundantly clear that this “contest“ is just a shill. I suspect adding certain tists, then accusing them of cheating was just part of the plan, combining advertising with defamation. Brilliant.

No, it's the passiveness of the “scene“ that's really sad. I would expect you stand up for the folks that give you free stuff. But as I learned the hard way, no one stands up against the inrupturds. You rather loose tists through that sheepish passivity than spending 10 seconds to write a post. That's why I stopped making files. Not because of all the shit, but because of the laziness of the scene. I don't really want to spend hours and hours for a group in which no one spends a few seconds to do what's right. This passiveness poisons the scene. And reduces fresh and creative content. Which of course benefits people who want to sell the same old files over and over again.

I'm standing up for ViVe, because he was the only one who did the same for me when they flung their shit at me. I don't believe he would cheat, or tell anyone to vote for him. When I wanted to start making files, I wrote him a mail, and he helped me. He wrote dozens of mails, explained everything, and probably spend hours typing them. But it was normal for him to help me. And when they pounced on me, he stuck his neck out for me. Without even knowing who I was. Someone like that doesn't cheat.

Try to get the same help from your inraptured wannabes. Good luck.

And I'm absolutely certain ViVe would win a fair contest. He's like the Bob Dylan of the erotic hypnosis scene, I don't believe anyone comes even close to his body of work. He created some methods copied by almost everyone. I'm sure most people don't even realize that they likely listened to his ideas even if they never heard his voice. And he has the majority of female votes. That sexist aspect of disregarding those votes irks me too.

But of course, you can't have that. A free tist. A nightmare for greedy tists. So we conjure up lies about cheating.

I think people will see that this contest is fake, and the whole thing will turn into an anti advertisement for whomever “wins”. Because people will know that whoever wins is the real cheater. The scene will know what tist to avoid. Who lies, who cheats, who will betray your trust if you trance with them, and who is “tourney”.

But maybe they can at least become samefag of the year.

i love how 80% of the "dommes" on this list haven't made a file in half a decade LOL

pointless

Oh god, tl;dr incoming.

>>12645

>I'm standing up for ViVe… …I don't believe he would cheat, or tell anyone to vote for him.

And neither do I, but the issue isn't whether or not he was involved, but whether or not someone DID spam votes for him in the first place. The only person to accuse ViVe of having a personal hand in the potential votespam is this jerk up here

>>12466

to whom the next three posts of the thread were addressed, two calling him out on his accusation, with the third post

>>12497

being the person running the tournament saying that he didn't think that it was ViVe's doing (Assuming that anon is tourney guy, but "I have it under control" implies as much).

As someone who's had basically no interaction with any of the social parts of Inraptured, the whole "It's an Inraptured plot to ruin the reputation of non-Inraptured hypnotists" idea seems bizarre to me, especially when in the same round I pointed out that Mistress Joanne had had a large number of votes removed due to supposed votespamming too, and she's set up on Inraptured (I think).

…Whoops, went and double checked and her last upload there was over a year ago, so she's probably not a good example of that.

So, looking through the past couple of pages for authors of recently posted files on that site:

-Mistress Love: 24/25

-Shelle Rivers: 29/31

-Mistress Leslie: 5/5

-Ellechemy: 32/36

-Elena (eSuccubus) 34/45

-Emma Evans (Trance) 14/25

And from the first poll

-Mistress Carol: 44/64

-Amethyst: 31/36

Only a few that have had large changes made in the counting, but then I'd only expect a few people to have had people spamming for them (If anything, the fact that 3/8 have been flagged as having spam votes seems a little bit high). So in that group, there's three people there who use Inraptured who have had significant numbers of votes removed (Elena and Carol lost ~20, and Emma Evans lost ~10), so it isn't just happening to non-Inraptured hypnotists. It's just that ViVe had far and away the largest number removed, which takes it back to the question of "did he have that many legitimate votes (Oh god, the poll's up to 90 now) or did some of the people who wanted to see him win vote multiple times, as is super easy to do with a strawpoll?" (Wish I could suggest a better alternative, but I can't remember what I've seen used in the past, and a quick Google doesn't bring up any obvious standouts)

ViVe's said he believes that that 17 burst was legitimate (If we assume that none of the people in his apparently quite large group chat would be the sort to vote a few extra times). That leaves two points, with the first being that there's still 20 votes unnaccounted for. I'm assuming that the guy running this is just going to say that they were removed due to being similar clusters of identical votes coming in all at once, so unless ViVe has a perfect matchup for those too like he did with the first burst, that means either that there *was* very likely spam going on that should have been removed and that the first cluster was just unfortunate false positive, or that the tournament holder is just lying about having a reason for removing votes and did so for his own reasons, which I don't see any basis for accusing him of doing when there's been plenty of votes removed from other contenders without any obvious pattern to them that anyone's been able to point out so far (Since the "Slamming noninraptured only" doesn't seem to fit (Unless the examples I pulled aren't the bad part of the inraptured crowd or something? Bleh.)).

Now the other big point is whether votes from non-8chan people should count: Since it was never said anywhere that this was to be exclusive to 8chan, since that there's no way to tell 8channer votes from other votes and since it's pretty likely that those 'tists who have heard of this thing going down would mention it to their friends, I don't see any reason to exclude those votes and do see that it's completely impractical to try. I say they should be counted, but of course it's in the hands of the guy running it.

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>And I'm absolutely certain ViVe would win a fair contest.

I think ViVe'd deserve to win (or at least rank highly) in a good contest if it were based around hypnotic skill, but from the outset this hasn't been anything more than a popularity contest and it's not ViVe's files I see on half the accounts I link to on GiGa (Exaggeration, but there's a lot of duplication on there, while there's 1, maybe 2 people that have had ViVe's files as part of their collections), or getting regular threads about people discussing results with them (outside that one giant one about his Dumbing Down series over on WMM (And there's a couple of smaller threads there too now, apparently. Guess he's picking up a bit more than I thought!)).

Why is ViVe here crying about a poll that has little to no impact on him… there's only like 200 voters at most. If hes doing so well and is so good at what he does why would he care what some no name on a low pop slow moving board does…

>>12659

He's got crippling vagina envy?

>>12666

Now you removed several of Elenas votes. Another free tist that had to go. Amazing "contest". Not a shill at all.

>>12671

Lol! They removed just enough so she's one vote behind charlotte, even with a massive lead. Yeah. Totally not a shill.

It's a total joke that charlotte had the slightest chance against Elena.

Really curious to see how they try to justify it this time.

>>12667

The winner? Just safe the time and just tell us who'm you have chosen as a winner.

>>12671

Elena's votes came after voting had closed.

>>12675

>>12675

When I voted for her on Saturday she had 28 votes. That was before voting closed. So where are the other votes?

>>12667

>>12676

Welp, I wrote up those big posts earlier saying that I didn't think this thing was intentionally dodgy, but I've gotta say my confidence in that is starting to sink.

You haven't used the "vote spam removal" reason this time, so that means that the votes were almost all legitimate ones, and someone with a dramatic vote lead losing to someone with less than 2/3rds their score because the guy running it removed just enough votes to put them one below their competitor is pretty goddamn blatant.

So what did you expect? Elena aand Vive make excellent FREE files. They are a nightmare for everyone who thinks greed is a good substitute for talent.

I think Freya is right. This combines a shill with discrediting the competition. Guess it would have been too obvious to say Elena cheated too after the controversy with Vive. So we just quietly remove enough votes.

The one vote less thing is a complete joke. And she already had more than 18 votes last week.

Both Elena and Charlotte are excellent hypnotists. This round of 16 fixture could have been the final.

Elena got a dozen votes after I posted the results. Don't know why anyone would do that, but that's what happened. (The "free 'tist" conspiracy theory is especially hilarious given that Charlotte (& Ember) was famous for her free files and gave away her whole catalog when she retired.)

This is bullshit. Competition my ass.

So far I kept out of this shitstorm, but now I have to add my two cents.

I voted for Elena and others. I gave her my vote on Thursday, and it was the 26th vote. Saying the votes came in after the voting period is simply a lie.

This whole tournement is either a shill, trying to make us see some camgirl as our favorite hypnotist, or some fan going crazy and wanting to see their hypnotist as the winner. Votes are manipulated at every corner, and the reasons for it are completely laughable.

If it were a serious tournament, op would have stopped it already, because it's hurting everyone. The accusations of cheating hurt the hypnotist they accuse, and even the winner will be damaged, what with all the manipulation leaving a sour taste.

Actually Candice was a camgirl. I have some old clips, pretty shitty quality, but if people are interested I could post them.

>>12700

Now we're getting somewhere. Her votes jumped up in both rounds. But she never got even one voice redacted. Interesting.

>>12693

No, she didn't. She had the votes before. You're really getting desperate, aren't you?

Now elena is butthurt too? What the fuck is wrong with these cheap ass tists?

>>12707

They are just pissed that no one would pay them. What sad jokes. Have to vote themselves up.

>>12707

>>12708

Really, tourney? A reply within a minute?

Are people so desperate that they need someone to validate their hypno/fap material?

I mean I get why ViVe and Freya are irritated, since it's their work being scrutinized and put through a bunch of bullshit.

This stuff reminds me of the fap games I used to play, where I'd run an image slideshow and base my results/actions on the image I landed on. Deep down I always wanted to rig in favor of the thing I really wanted to do, but I kept doing it anyway. This seems like something similar.

Who I'd fap to is a far different question from who I think is the best actual hypnotist - at least as far as one can expect to get with files.

>>12714

Exactly! Stop this shit. Your desperate faking to make someone win is really obvious. Stop it before you do more damage.

Why do you autists even care

>>12717

This! Love this.

Make better files and you get votes. But the shit of elena and vive is so shitty they can't even sell it.

>>12719

Stop your whining. Quality prevails. Make better stuff and you win.

The idiots make shitty files, then cry. Morons!

>>12717

>>12719

They are just butthurt that nobody likes them. Tough shit. Make shit, get shit.

>>12721

They don't even know what hypnosis is. What did you expect? It costs nothing, it's worth nothing.

Some stupid amateurs just don't stand a chance against real hypnotists.

>>12722

I've seen this opinion being posted before, and it's really fucking weird.

Is a smile worth nothing unless it's from someone who you're paying to act like they care about you?

Is the food provided at an event inherently worse than McDonalds because they're not charging you for it?

The value of something is inherent in the product and your relation to it, and whilst having to give something up to receive it might mean that you'd be more invested in whatever it is, it's certainly not a difference that'd render the thing "worthless".

>>12724

If you are mcdonalds you certainly see it as something bad.

If you are trying to live from making a new file every 2 or 3 month and want to sell you old stuff again and again, you see free file(maker)s as something very bad.

I think the point is that it's becoming increasingly clear what the purpose of this torunament is.

Hahahaha…. the tournament of hypnodommes is the most rediculous thread I have ever read. What a stupid farce.

"Votes appear to be spam, just delete them with no valid evidence given"

"Hypnotists get a tie vote, just flip a coin and pick one instead of having another open vote of the tied hypnotists to decide who should move to the next round"

"People question the process but get no real answers"

Hahahaheehee….

Then someone implies only pay files are real hypnosis files…

Hahahahaha….

This is beyond rediculous! Time to make popcorn and enjoy the show!

>>12717

It's me again. You autists seem to have misinterpreted. Both sides of this shit are fucking morons. The tourney, the inraptured shills, and the people that are actually getting offended over this.

gib files pl0x

>>12731

Oh, of course. Elena lives from her Patreon. Spreading lies about her cheating cuts into her livelyhood.

So, if it's moronic to be offended by it, tell me where you work, so I can tell your boss a few lies about you. I'm sure you would be a moron to be offended about it.

>>12731

>>12739

Absolutely! I hope someone spreads lies about >>12731 at work, couldn't happen to a nice person. Even in all this stupidity they take the crown.

Just remember - if you care about loosing your job, you're an autistic moron.

On the other hand - someone as dumb won't have a job. Probably never worked and living in his parents basement.

>>12740

The intention of this thread is to find out who is the best hypnotist, and appreciate their art, not to steal it.

Do you stealing assholes have to take over every thread?

>>12742

You seem to be the same person who complained about people uploading the files in the Ellechemy thread that Ellechemy tried to claw back after releasing them creative commons. If so, you might be happier on a board not dedicated to file sharing or where file sharing is disallowed, there are many of those.

>>12740

is right, no one really cares about the biased results of this Tourney now and whether it is tists or just their diehard fans, it doesn't do anyone's favorite any favours to bog down in negativity over a meaningless popularity contest where the fix was in from the getgo. At this point there are a million ways for everyone to make themselves look like shit, and one great way to not: close the topic, don't come back to it, do something enjoyable somewhere else.

>>12741

>>12739

[Autism Intensifies]

>>12748

Every time you post, yes.

This thread is an idiot magnet, and you're the winner.

>>12749

Does he get a prize?

I want a prize too!

We all like to win, this is why we argue in the internets.

Gib pryz pl0x

I am an autist and I find this thread retarded.

I detect similarities between Tourney and the owner of the erstwhile Hypnodb. Both are clearly IT literate and both have a similar writing style. What do others think?

Voting for the quarterfinals is open through Sunday (24 hours from now). The links are here >>12667 .

>>12794

You're still trying to push your shill? After you admitted it with your silence? That's incredibly retarded!

>>12820

Funnily enough. You faked it exactly as you planed it. What a coincidence.

I see you played with the totals again, right now i see this:

Niki - Candice: 37 – 6 (you 37 – 6)

Ellechmie – Amethyst 23 – 19 (you 19 - 19 with „coinflip“ for Amethyst)

Mary – Carol: 30 – 25 (you 19 – 25)

Charlotte – Isabella 25 – 17 (you 25-17)

So you decided again that two tists win against the votes. At lest you thought about something new and didn't do the “one vote less“, but a tie with a coin throw.

Would you amuse us with your newest attempt of justifying why you did it?

Spam + late votes, as usual.

>>12848

Arbitrariness and fakery, as usual.

So by now you don't even try to give it feign legitimacy?

Pathetic!

>>12864

Well, who wins will tell us who OP really is, and the fact only highly priced hypnotists who sit on their laurels have made it to the last leg tells you a lot. this is ground game buzz marketing and mods should probably wipe it off this forum

My general policy has been to ignore the idiots in this thread, but let me make an exception. No one (except the spammer) wants spam to count, and it's impossible to count votes that happen in the future. I don't think your whining is convincing anyone.

> only highly priced hypnotists have made it to the last leg

This is where you really screw up. Nikki retired years ago but used to release lots of free recordings, and pretty much all her sessions are easily available in torrents. Charlotte retired more recently, but she too gave away tons of recordings, and in the end shared her whole library on this very board ( >>7135 ). Carol and Amethyst's prices are reasonable, especially for their quality, and I don't think either of them does much findom. But they (and pretty much everyone who did well in the tournament) have had lots of their files shared – that's how they got so popular in the first place.

No one believes you even know who these hypnodommes are.

>>12879

WOW! Using more advertisement to support your fakery. That is imaginative!

>>12879 You ignore yourself?

>>12879

Not a shill. That's why you take great pains to note that they have oh so high quality files for such reasonable prices.

Autism intensifies indeed.

Voting for the semifinals is open through Sunday (midnight EST, 48 hours from now). Here are the links again:

http://strawpoll.me/6572594

http://strawpoll.me/6572596

Now that the tournament's winding down, I thought I'd share my thoughts. Coming into this, Nikki seemed the obvious choice for the "best hypnodomme". She's not the one I listen to the most or that works the best on me, but you couldn't really ask for a better starting hypnodomme. She emphasizes trust which is perfect for beginners who are hesitant about letting go. Her Because series eases you into the fetish, and it's pretty cool to see how much better you get at going into trance. (Bliss gave me my first mindgasm.) Her audio quality is great, almost ASMR-like with whispers and stuff that I wish other people did more often.

I wasn't sure who would come next though, and I don't think anyone who's done well in the tournament is a bad choice. But here's where I'd put them. At #2 is IV. She just has so many classic recordings, starting with the Jackpot series (which is how I first stumbled across this fetish), but moving on to kinkier sessions like Romantique, Cock Worship, Sissy Shower, Swallow, and the list goes on and on. Of course her quality dropped a lot later, first with poetry-type stuff then more recently with mini-sessions that hardly qualify as hypnosis, but I'll judge her at her best.

Next I'd put Joanne at #3. Her audio quality is poor, but her scripts are just amazing. I don't think anyone comes close to matching her wordplay, which for some reason works really well on me. And finally I'd put Kasha at #4. Her stuff fits together nicely, invasive but not necessarily exploitative, plus her breathing inductions are pretty effective.

The final round of voting is open through Sunday (36 hours from now).

Nikki vs Carol. Can't say I'm surprised and both have quality recordings. Still, are they hypnodommes if neither write their own scripts? Might as well just give Bob the win if Nikki gets the most votes…

Guess I am a purist. I agree with some of the others, Joanne isn't good looking and the mp3's aren't professional grade, but she is by far the most talented hypnotist IMO. Props to Lady Christine, Anonymistress and Lady Surrender as well.

>>13086

You are a complete moron, you fucked up this shit, and no one believes you any more, no matter what lies you spam!

But at least you youself consider your lies to be spam and give it the according title!

>>13086

As if there could ever be any other outcome, Nikki - even in her "retired' status - is infinitely superior to any others. While I know a lot of folk like/love Mistress Carol, her style is just so boring and deadpan with basically no humor or fun at all but I suppose that's what some folks want.

Nikki just hits everything on every cylinder in basically everything she's ever done.

I for one am not surprised at the final results, not one bit.

>>13136

Doesn't surprise me, but am I the only one who is disappointed? Nikki isn't, and never was a hypnotist. She was simply a talented voice actress that parroted Bob's (or Shiri, whoever the hell "she" is) scripts. Should the "best " female erotic hypnotist be a puppet for some old dude that is writing about getting our rocks off? Am I the only one who is off-put by this? I realize in some cases other hypnodommes are difficult to assess as the real deal, but in this case it is extremely obvious.

>>13163

haha I was the guy who posted exactly this

>>12077 at the very beginning of this crapfest and I got shouted down because someone didn't think it was important being dominated by a man and because RC, chewtoy (all men) etc wrote a bunch of scripts for her too so somehow that changed things simply because I only named Bob.

It was a forgone conclusion who would win because retards.

I despise shell script readers posing as hypnotists but clearly you and I are in the minority.

Funny thing is - Nikki never hid the fact that she was reading other people's scripts - she never pretended that she was something she wasn't but over time people seem to forget so they can have the fantasy.

No problem but when you come to a party for hypnotists - you prolly should be a hypnotist to qualify.

>>13169

>at the very beginning of this crapfest and I got shouted down because someone didn't think it was important being dominated by a man and because RC, chewtoy (all men) etc wrote a bunch of scripts for her too so somehow that changed things simply because I only named Bob.

Hi! I'm Chewtoy. I never wrote any scripts for Nikki. In retrospect, I would have loved to do that, but she dropped off the net before I got into recording hypnosis files of my own.

I've stayed out of this thread so far– it was nice to be mentioned at all, but as a man I really didn't expect to be highly placed in a contest of whose voices a bunch of mostly straight dudes like getting off to. ;) I'm impressed that ViVe did as well as he did!

I've never met Nikki, but I'd be really surprised if she hadn't picked up a good bit about hypnosis over her years of reading those scripts, so it's a little funny to me to read people talking vehemently about her being "not a hypnotist" (how do you think hypnotists learn to do it? Visit some professional hypnotherapy sites and you will see… professional hypnotists, trading scripts. How do you think all hypnosis in research settings is done, the classic Scales of Hypnotic Susceptibility etc? Scripts, by design, for reproducibility reasons) But I get that there's something different about the idea that the *words* that are seeping into your brain and influencing your thoughts were carefully picked *by* the person you'd like to have dominating you. And there's something important about the idea that she isn't *just* reading from a cue card; that if you were there in person, impromptu, she could still make you her plaything with well-chosen words. The collaborations that I *have* done, where I wrote a script for someone else to read, have all been with women who were already skilled hypnotists, and I tried to incorporate as much of their own style into the recording as I could, and there's been some back and forth about ideas and wording. I started doing collaborations with LeeAllure because she *asked* me to write something for her to record, even though she already had plenty of recordings entirely of her own out; because she liked my writing, and liked the directions it took her in.

Even for performers who *are* just reading from a cue card, delivery is not nothing, and there are a few women I'd happily listen to reading the phone book. ;) One of the things I love about this board is nobody's responsible to anyone else for what they like.

So, I think it's more complicated than you're making out. But I do also think it's a thing! (One of the things I find intriguing about Madame Y is that the scripts are apparently written by a woman, for instance.)

Maybe you'd like to see a different contest, with hypnotists broken down into different categories?

I think arguing over who is or is not a "real" hypnotist kind of misses the point, though. It's like arguing about who is or is not a True Dominant or True Submissive.

>>13163

>Nikki isn't, and never was a hypnotist.

Obviously you seem to not comprehend what a hypnotist is, then.

We're all hypnotists.

Didn't you get the memo? :D

>>13185

Thanks for your input. You make some good points and I apologise for generalising about who wrote Nikki's scripts.

To clarify, of course she would have picked up skills over time, this is how we work.

Doesn't change my opinion about her actually winning the contest outright.

Objectively, Nikki cannot be "the best hypnotist".

Subjectively, well we have the results to answer that. People power.

>>13185

I think it's very interesting that you appear *now* and justify the results. Especially as it's already established that this so called contest is a big fraud.

Maybe you should take the fact that she has been voted out two times during the contest in account. Yes, she got cheated on, but she didn't win anything.

Makes one wonder what's the deal between you and her are, and how much you got your fingers in this rigged game! Or did we just find out who tourney was?

As a practical point, I'm not sure how you can tell who's writing the sessions. Nikki admits RC writes her stuff, but what about Carol, who writes her own scripts but also has script writers: Can you tell which sessions are which?

Erotic hypnosis is a fantasy, and hypnodommes are characters. What matters to me is the final experience, not how many people (writer, voice actress, audio engineer) are required to create it.

>>13218

… and one of the things I *don't* love about this board, or the Internet in general, is the paranoia over pointless things. You are literally arguing about the results of an anonymous poll on a backwater Internet site. I agree with you that the results aren't very meaningful, but I have pretty different ideas as to why.

You're welcome to believe what you want, of course. I'd love to have my fingers in Nikki's, ah, revenue stream, but I don't. (Check out my website, gentlybitten.com! I'm quite happy to advertise the women I *have* worked with; they're awesome.) For that matter I'd love to have a beer with her, but I haven't. I didn't vote in the poll, and if I had it wouldn't have been for Nikki (for all-time looming over the online scene I'd probably go with Isabella Valentine).

What exactly do you envision the payoff being for rigging this very informal poll? Extra advertising to the demographic who pirate all the stuff they listen to anyway? :)

If I had voted it would have been for AnonyMistress anyway - she is/was an actual licensed Hypnotherapist for the better part of 30 years so, she most assuredly had her "chops" in place and even when making files regularly she had a regular practice in her "real life" that did quite well.

But of course, that's just my opinion amongst many others.

I see "Tourney" deletes comments that call attention to how goddamn stupid this thread is. Pitiful.

Where are all the comments gone? Critics are silenced! This is reaching new lows.

This behaviour hasn't any positive side.

I repeat - delete this thread, delete this fake contest, delete all the bs!

>>13229

So suddenly chewtoy appears out of thin air and labels anyone who thinks tossing a coin isn't a fair way to determine who's the better hypnotist as “paranoid“?

The same is true for questioning the deletion of votes in every single round without any proof given to us.

That's usually how extremist governments work, creating a negative label and slapping it on everyone daring to raise questions or criticize anything.

Obey and buy.

I find this thread to be very difficult to masturbate to. It's nearly as skull-rottingly boring and pointless as that Ellechemy thread where 20 people were arguing copyright law.

WE ARE HERE TO WANK, GUYS. Post links to wank material or fuck off!!!!

>>13256

>>13260

>>13261

If you idiots hate this tournament so much, why do you continue to post here, bumping the thread to the front page for everyone to see?

>>13261

If you don't share Chewtoys opinion you're obviously crazy and paranoid. How dare you?

>>13264

You prevented any attempt to let this thread die for weeks. Look at the dates of your bumping. You're really incredibly dumb.

>>13264

If you were able to read you would have seen that i >>13261 didn't say a word about it. Guess you're too dumb for that.

But as you bring it up: This is not a contest, but just your attempt to push your favorite tist. It would only be a contest if people vote for it, but you just add or subtract votes to get your preordained result.

>>13271

>>13272

>>13274

Again, why do you continue to bump this thread to the top of the front page, rather than let it fade into obscurity?

Maybe you guys could go back to the ViVe chatroom and leave us alone?

>>12667

Being a pro wrestling fan I have to say when Mistress Candice loses, please let it be due to tons of outside interference. She's the Undertaker of hypno dommes:)

>>13271

Haha, yep, I'm definitely saying you're paranoid because you have different opinions from me, and not because you accuse everyone new who weighs in here of having a hidden agenda. Go with that. ;)

>>13262 You are my hero.

http://mcgarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6347.2025

>>13275

So we're getting closer to the true reasons why certain tists got kicked out. I guess you don't like Elena either.

Free tists? Too good?

>>13294

Remember that it's better to be paranoid and wrong than not paranoid and wrong.

Well, for me this silly tournament had at least one good side-effect: I discovered Elena and find it very rewarding to dive into her diverse work. Plus, it drew my attention to a bunch of great voices at GWA/soundgasm. Of course, I found a lot of crap there too…

Anyway, we don't need to worry about lack of talent, good scripts, sexy voices and interesting fantasies in general ;)

I'm still pissed Elena got kicked out of the contest. She's easily one of the best, and she's free, which gives her far more reach and far more fans.

Of course she had to be eliminated, how would it have made all the poor little camgirls look like if free products are better?

I'm absolutely not surprised that chewtoy who got zero votes total (no surprise there at all) is interested in defending tourneys slandering of other hypnotists like her. It's an old strategy, if you can't do better, attack those who can. I don't think I need to mention how pathetic this behavior is.

>>13375

>Of course [Elena] had to be eliminated, how would it have made all the poor little camgirls look like if free products are better?

Charlotte beat Elena. Are you calling Charlotte a camgirl? Everyone here is laughing at you.

Elena currently has 125 free products and 66 + 48 = 114 paid. Charlotte currently has 63 free products and one paid. Everyone here is still laughing at you.

You ViVe and Elena fans should try listening to some of these other hypnotists. Many of them are quite good.

>>13378

I think tourney has a crush on ViVe. He's incredibly fixated!

>>13380

That makes a lot of sense.

I'm not saying ViVe or Elena aren't good. I'm saying how can you know they're the best if you haven't listened to anyone else? How can you know that Elena's better than Charlotte if you've never listened to Charlotte?

But instead of showing any self-reflection, these idiots (mostly ViVe fans, some Elena too) throw out conspiracy theories, each one stupider than the next. There's no point in debunking, they don't read or understand the replies. For example, I already explained twice that Charlotte's famous for her free files (something that anyone familiar with the fdhypno scene should know already), but >>13375 needed it to be pointed out a third time. I gave a full accounting of the spam adjustments in >>13085 .

Maybe it's a testament to how powerful ViVe is, that he could make a handful of followers so devoted that they couldn't imagine anyone else thinking there was a better hypnotist than him. But I'm not so sure the loss in IQ points is worth it.

>>13381

The only one bringing him up all the time are you. Yeah, crush!

The fact remains you have thrown them both out without giving any proof to this day.

And now it's slowly getting clear you don't like them, which makes it even more suspicious.

>>13381

No, you didn't. You posted some excel sheets where you cut off all labels so they are worthless.

So you're either incredibly dumb, or know it's shit and try to fool people, either way, doesn't convince anyone.

>>13385

Huh? The hypnotists are listed at the top, in exactly the same order as they were in the polls (which was alphabetically in the group stage). Vive is the last column in the fifth group, for example. If you can't figure out their full names from their first few letters + alphabetical order + vote total in the next row, then you should probably take a break from his recordings for a while to try to regain some IQ points.