No.1487[Last 50 Posts]
Soon.
No.1491
Anzu < *
No.1494
>>1491I'd take Anzu over Shrooms. Good thing she isn't a main character anyways. So supposedly the CG anime has 14 MCs, which means the other 16 shown are minor. Others might cameo too.
No.1530
>I'd take Anzu over Shrooms.
But why? How could you resist this cute face?
No.1531
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>>1530some people simply have shit taste, let it go anon
No.1532
>>1531It takes a lot to be worse than Anzu but she manages to do it.
No.1561
Bickering aside, are you feeling it yet?
No.1575
>>1561Hype? Nah, I haven't felt that since the idolmaster movie was announced and it was thought to be two hours of 765 just fucking around. But I'll still be watching it because it's a below average season and everyone's going to be talking about it anyways.
No.1605
>>1575Well, fine, if you want to put it like that.
I'm also watching more out of a sense of obligation than of real interest, but it's still kind of exciting to count down the days.
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>>1561>are you feeling it yet?I'M REALLY FEELIN' IT!
I mostly just want to see how this simulcast fares, to be honest. It might be good, it might be a trainwreck, or it could just be the very definition of mediocre; either way, I've been on this ride far too long to just back out now.
No.1637
Soon soon
No.1648
WHICH SUBS FUCK
No.1649
So I actually kind of liked episode 1. Not horrible, but not that great either. CoolP was a shock at first but I got used to him. I liked him better without the glasses. I liked that they made Rin refuse at first even if it was obvious she'd join later. Some had complained that Namco forgot her cool side but I think this episode was good at showing both. I'm also enjoying all the cameos, I wonder if that new 765 album poster will end up being DLC.
Now for the negatives. The pacing seems too slow, apparently they're spending three episodes on introductions. They shouldn't have put the focus on two characters so early on. It already seems like the Uzuki and Rin show, when the original anime at least waited until the second half before becoming the Haruka and Chihaya show. I'm questioning if they'll be able to focus on all 14 properly. Although it probably helps there's not much character or history to fuck up so they can do with them as they please. A minor complaint but the anime staff really fucked up with the timeline. The 2011 anime took a year, the movie took three seasons, then Producer left for a year, and CG takes place in spring. In other words it's been three years since the original anime started.
>But who cares if they don't change, they don't in the games
The anime timeline is separate from the games to begin with. In the games namco only changes designs per vision and doesn't change models, while the anime is separate and can at least draw the idols a bit taller. If they're trying to tie all of the series together they could at least make the idols age properly.
No.1650
>>1649I forgot to mention a few more positive points. I liked that CG had some idols already debuted. Having CG be a project also makes sense. Having Rin first appear in the flower shop was a really good choice too. There's not too much else to say until the other characters appear. I think having a castle for an office is odd, in a way it's almost a metaphor. 765's office is small and outdated, while CG's office is grand and stands out.
No.1651
I can kind of relate to this guy. Rin, too. I hope they continue to get screen time together.
No.1661
>>1649>Namco forgot her cool side Wait what? I don't normally care that much for Rin, except acknowledging she's hot as fuck, but I feel they made a very good job with her in this ep. I actually liked her as a character. And she was cool. In a very good sense.
No.1662
I liked it so far. I'm a secondary gaijin so I don't know much about Cinderella Girls.
No.1663
>>1661No in the past most of her content and cards were focusing on her being cute or embarrassed so people thought Namco forgot she was supposed to be cool.
No.1674
>>1663And that's how the "Rin a shit" meme started, which mostly ended after this episode, thankfully. I always liked Rin, for a CG.
And I never understood why people were saying since the beginning that Uzuki is boring. She doesn't look boring to me. Not everyone needs an outlandish niche pandering hobby.
I'm kind of dreading the rest of the series though, mostly because Mio Honda is going to be in it. And most of the other girls in the cast I have no interest in, besides Ranko and Anzu. Maybe the anime will change that, but they'll have to pull some 10/10 magic for that to happen.
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No.1676
>>1674Mio's not that bad. Pretty sure Ai is the louder of the two. Honestly I don't really hate CG itself, but more how people over praise how good it is when it hasn't even gotten a full game yet and there's only one episode of the anime out. It's ML that's the more troubling of the two, figures as it was designed by the anime staff instead of people that worked with the games.
No.1678
>>1676Watching CG slowly creep over the general and take it over was disturbing.
People claiming one of them to be their waifu was more disturbing. She's just a card with a synopsis of a character. It's almost insulting, but I'm no better, I was waifuing after the first 2011 episode, but at least it was an episode.
CG has more girls therefore has a greater number of good designs, but ML at least pretends to not forget about my waifu, so I have to say I like ML better, I've gotten some decent art from them of Iorin, so I can't complain too much.
I don't know what to say about Mio, I just want to strangle her. I took one look at her when I saw her card and just…fucking hated her. She's just not my type at all.
I'm still convinced that the thing we started when CG was just a few days old, where we said that every useless card we got was Mio Honda, and images of her were all over the threads, and shoops and gifs and everything, was part of the reason that Mio honda was chosen to be in the main 3. Scamco has already admitted to lurking gaijin iM@S threads. Call me crazy, but I think they mistook our annoyance with her as praise, and thought we loved her the most, which might have made them push her more, and here we are, stuck with HER.
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No.1679
>>1678>Watching CG slowly creep over the general and take it over was disturbing.Yep. Don't forget all over twitter, nico, and other imas discussions.
>People claiming one of them to be their waifu was more disturbing. She's just a card with a synopsis of a character. It's almost insultingIt is insulting. More so when they try to claim it's better than nine years of development.
As for Mio I'm pretty sure new gen was a thing before that. I kind of doubt that namco listened to the gaijin fans that much and if they did they probably ignored it. Mostly due to lack of reacting to complaints or praise from fans about various topics.
No.1682
>>1679>new gen was a thing before thatThere was nothing before that, the game had just launched. It was kind of like "expecting a good card, well too bad, it's MIO FUCKING HONDA".
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No.1706
>>1678>Watching CG slowly creep over the general and take it over was disturbing. This. From day one a handful of us were bitching about it but others kept saying that the originals wouldn't be overshadowed and that the mobage would eventually flesh them out. How could they have when there are that many? To make matters worse, most of the threads I come across now are almost entirely dedicated to the CG characters and sometimes not a single post will even vaguely nod towards the originals. Is there some kind of appeal that I just don't understand?
No.1711
>>1706The generals were 99% CG before, but now that the anime started, all hope is lost. I just skim over the threads now barely paying attention when I used to read everything.
>is there some kind of appeal that I just don't understandI don't get it either. I've been trying to figure it out for ages and I just don't see the appeal of that cellphone game or most of the girls in it. People have been going to that website that figures out your top 5 favorite idols lately, and some of them don't even have a single 765 in their top 5. These are truly the darkest of days.
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No.1713
>>1706I used to think it was because there was so many girls that everyone could have a niche they liked in it and would just obsess over that even if they weren't fleshed out, and would proceed to complain if she wasn't popular despite CG always being a popularity contest. It's really shallow which explains why many of it's followers are also shallow.
>>1711More like 60% ML 35% CG 5% 765 give or take. I was in that stage you mention about half a year ago before stopping reading them besides when others mention it and just moving to other sites including here.
I've heard about that ranker. One thing that bugs me is it's more of a list of idol anime or idols in anime the creator knows about rather than overall. Guess that's to be expected. Another thing is it seems pointless to me. Maybe it's something fun to do alone, but sharing it with others is about as pointless as sharing anki stats in DJT was. There used to be this concept of all idols being god tier, but I guess that went out the window once namco starting making everything and anything an idol. I don't need a sorter to tell me what idols I like.
No.1779
CG becoming more and more restricted was what really hurt the im@s general in the long run, in my opinion. Despite all the bitching from the anti-general crowd, mods still allowed both the main im@s general and the CG general to exist at the same time because two very different discussions were taking place. Now CG was never very gaijin-friendly (I was one of the verified people helping others get verified - I was in Xeno and later Puchi once the gaijin population started dropping), but over time it eventually reached the point where the non-verified prize box stopped being used period. And then came the trade restrictions, the delicious market usage, the elimination of certain entry-level events, the increased focus on spending real money just to stand a chance in new events, and then ML launching… even if you were verified the game just got less and less fun and after a year or so CG threads started looking pretty dead. It got to the point where a general was made whenever a new set of cards went live and a couple people ogled over the new designs and then the thread fell off of page 10 after 50 or so posts, if even that.
It was natural that the remaining CG people would move to the main threads, at least for a little while, but by the time CG got enough content to fuel their own generals again we were in the cuckchan era where mods would ban you for anything and everything. Being delicious off of /a/ was the final nail in the coffin.
Sometimes I go back and read the im@s threads that have popped up since the anime started. I would not recommend that anyone do the same.
No.1780
>>1779Oh hey we have a wordfilter.
Force.
delicious.
Forcing.
No.1782
>>1780Having done it myself, I love seeing other people walk into that one.
Anyway, that's an informative and bleak analysis of how everything went downhill. I wasn't around for the good threads on /a/, so it's interesting to hear about this stuff.
No.1785
>>1779I was around for CG era as well. I think the problem with CG merging to the main thread was not CG being there at all, but with time as the mobile games got more focus and people started fuck me campaigns against contributors it started to kick out 765 discussion bit by bit until today where there is barely any left. Also ML really helps make CG look better in comparison. The only thing ML has over CG is that they give 765 new cards really. It's too bad 765 got kicked out of CG, they never even finished the 765 invites. At least we got twintails Chihaya out of it.
Of course OP always said that it was welcome, but you can't really talk about something if the other people aren't there or the topic is constantly turned back to the mobile games after a few posts. You can't really force people to keep a ratio, that's true, but it also works the other away around. Just like in the past 765 outweighed mobage now mobage outweighs 765.
I tried reading the CG threads at first, but I stopped as it wasn't worth it. Too many things like "Hey I'm new to this iM@S thing, can I skip the first series?" "I only remember the Haruka and Miki parts about 765" "Everything about iM@S sucks, fuck idols and their shitty music" "It's only been one episode, but CG is better than 765!" I miss being a newnano when there wasn't over a hundred idols, now I'm the oldnano who can only remember the good old days. Now I know why some of the oldnanos in 2011 hated us.
No.1788
>>1785>hey I'm new to this iM@S thing, can I skip the first series>iM@S music sucks even though all i've heard is the anime music, I'm entitled to an opinion>I hated the 2011 anime but I love this>LL is betterEvery episode 1 thread.
Since episode 2 aired the threads have been pretty fun though.
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No.1796
>>1785>>1787>>1788Don't forget the CG - KanColle shit flinging.
No.1798
>>1796Why can't we all just get along?
Although honestly, after learning more about KanColle, I'd say it actually seems better than CG. No.1799
>>1798I jumped
ship to KanColle after playing CG for over a year and finding myself to be one of the last remaining active gaijin in Puchi.
Sometimes I want to go back but I know there's nothing waiting for me.
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No.1809
I don't get the hype really. Looks like Strike Witches v2.
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No.1810
>>1809moe otaku + military otaku + nationalism + simple to play game with many players = loads of money
No.1811
>>1809That's not a bad thing.
No.1813
>>1811>those RensouhouAwaken, my masters!
No.2025
Why the fuck are they pretending this has any other characters but the boring trio and a glorified Mika?
>>1494>14 MCsAlso, I bet you feel stupid now.
Well, it's their fault it only has 3 MCs.
No.2026
>>2025I don't feel stupid because this result isn't surprising at all. Namco loves their trios.
No.2027
>>2025>So supposedly the CG anime has 14 MCs>supposedlyI believe this is the key word here.
No.2031
Painful as this is to admit, especially given how much I dislike both Anzu and Brain Problems, this scene made me laugh out loud.
Also, Anya was extra-cute in this episode.
No.2032
>>2031Anya is the best thing about the anime.
No.2033
>>2032>>2031Excuse me, who?
I only see Rin Uzuki Honda shit.
>>2026That might be true, but Im@s anime still felt like it had other characters too, because the series wasn't exclusively conveyed to us from their perspective.
CG is a failure as an idol show, because it does exactly that.
No.2034
>>2033>CG is a failure as an idol showwow rude
No.2035
>>2033Speaking as a secondary who knew nothing of im@s going into the first anime: it was very clear to me from the beginning that Haruka was the "main" character. I never for a second expected them to actually put any focus on the other girls, and was frankly surprised that Miki and Chihaya got as much as they got by the end of it.
If anything Mio and Rin are lucky to be given what they have so early.
No.2038
>>2035I don't understand what you are on.
Yes, in Im@s it was clear that Haruka is THE main lead, and that Chihaya and Miki are the next to her.
But still, there was 9 other idols who got decent focus, their own episodes, interactions, etc.
In CG anime, there are only those 3 as important girls. There isn't anyone besides them that can be called important, maybe aside from Mika.
We also see everything throught their eyes, not an outsider, unlike in Im@s' case.
Miu/Anzu/Mika/Akagi/etc,etc. are nothing more than few second cameos every other episodes, certainly not characters like everyone, even Hibiki were.
No.2039
>>2035>>2038Yeah, that's bullshit. Every idol got a feature episode in the original anime, and it helped that they were real characters even before that because they'd been properly developed in their game (most of them, anyway). The CG girls are already at a disadvantage for being shallow to begin with, and hardly anyone but the main trio have had more than a few lines. This adaptation really is turning out to be a disgrace.
No.2041
>>2038What was Hibiki's episode again?
No.2042
>>2041Hibiki's episode. HIBIKI'S!
That's the difference. She got an episode.
Not "Boring trio's episode featuring thirty seconds of Hibiki", but "Hibiki's episode".
No.2043
>>2039Again, this was my impression going into the origional anime completely blind. By the end I felt that I really only got a story out of the Namassuka trio. Some of the other girls barely got anything beyond "haha Azusa is lost" or Yukiho sort of getting over her shit. I just don't see any reason to expect any more from CG. And even then, we have 20 episodes left. It's a bit early to be making judgements like this, especially when the NG girls are already so much further ahead in their careers than the 765 girls were by this point.
No.2044
>>2043Your impression is cute, but inaccurate.
Even if the real story focused mostly on the trio, we had an OUTSIDE OBSERVER'S POINT OF VIEW on things mostly, and EVERYONE GOT AN EPISODE and there were GROUP EPISODES.
In Cinderella Girls, ALL EPISODES ARE TRIO EPISODES, where other girls only CAMEO APPEAR.
What's so hard to grasp at this basic but huge difference? God. It's not like we're getting a Kanako or say, Rika episode.
No.2045
>>2044>What's so hard to grasp at this basic but huge difference? Because we have 20~ episodes left and I think you're just looking for reasons to hate something that doesn't have 765 as the focus.
No.2046
>>2045I don't even know what you're talking about.
4 episodes already aired. Watch them.
Come back to talk after you did that, thank you.
No.2047
>>2046I never said the first four weren't NG focused. I'm saying that pretending like you know how the series is going to look in five months is beyond silly.
No.2048
>>2047Once again, 4 episodes aired.
They won't change the structure of the series at that point, so you are either new or the one being silly.
No.2049
>>2048I'm just willing to let it play out instead of calling it a failure less than a quarter of the way through.
Guess I'm the silly one.
No.2050
>>2049First off we don't even know if it's going to be 24 or not.
But secondly, if you think they will change this, then yes, you are silly indeed.
No.2053
>>2050The first anime featured all of the idols at the start and then eventually shifted focus to the Namassuka girls (and took it a step further in the movie but that's a different story). A-1 is no stranger to changing the formula halfway through.
No.2054
>>2053>focus to the Namassuka girlsANd that's not nearly true.
We knew anyways that the main dramatic stories will focus on the trio, but outside those episodes, the focus was spread throughout the cast.
In CG though? Everyone besides the trio is just lifeless decorations.
Oh, and there was at least one more glorified girl, Mika. But that only lead to Rika's popularity dying, since everyone will only care about Mika now.
No.2055
>>2054>implying anyone cared about that slut in the first place No.2056
>>2055She had more or less up-to-par popularity with her sister.
Well obviously not anymore, but you can check older polls, fanarts or doujins…
No.2057
>>2045Please.
I'm going to keep watching it, and there is always a chance they'll turn it around. But at this point, it's absolutely a disgrace, and will continue to be so unless something radically changes. The original adaptation is completely blowing it out at this point.
No.2058
>>2057Uzuki is my favorite. I think it's pretty nice.
No.2059
How come the quality of the anime rides on how much screen time gets spread around to all of the idols? This isn't Roger Rabbit where Daffy and Donald need to have the exact same amount of lines down to the syllable. I really don't get it.
And you're really kidding yourself if you really think that the 2011 anime was completely fair and balanced to each and every one of the girls, especially in the second half.
No.2061
>>2059Do you really really not get it? All but three or four of the characters might as well not be there. They get maybe a line or two per episode, in a really delicious "look, we're showing everyone off here" kind of way. Even if the main trio are your favorites, you should be able to see why leaving the majority of the cast as cardboard cutouts brings down the quality of the whole.
And nobody is claiming the 2011 anime was perfect; it wasn't even that great. But it still did a far better job at actually featuring characters than this lazy attempt.
No.2062
>>2061>Do you really really not get it?I just said that.
>All but three or four of the characters might as well not be thereEvery cast needs supporting characters. Stop thinking that just because they're part of the main group it means that they're the main characters as well. This isn't 765.
>Even if the main trio are your favorites, you should be able to see why leaving the majority of the cast as cardboard cutouts brings down the quality of the whole.CG was always about cutouts.
The only thing that's really bothering me is the lack of Natsuki. But she's got plenty of time to appear.
No.2063
>>2062You are really not seeing it.
This is an idol anime. It should have more than 3 characters.
If they weren't listing other girls in their site as part of the main cast, I wouldn't even be as mad as I am to be honest.
No.2064
>>2062>This isn't 765>CG was always about cutoutsOh, I understand what you mean now. Right, it's not a failure as an adaptation, because it's bad in the same ways as the source material.
Still, it's a failure, or at least a let-down, as an idol anime in general. Although we do still have 20 episodes for it to turn around.
No.2067
>>2064>20 episodesMore like 8.
No.2068
>>2044>an OUTSIDE OBSERVER'S POINT OF VIEW on things mostlyRemember when Producer was inside Chihaya's apartment with her for two weeks? Or stalking Takane around? That's because he wasn't there. Really more so in the second half it felt like Haruka had taken over Producer's role. Speaking of which the second half of the CG anime may have a shift in the story like the 2011 anime did.
Honestly I have no idea what the CG staff thinks it's doing. It makes me want to laugh honestly. I guess imas is doomed to never have a good anime. 2011 anime? We have this great cast, please adapt them right and share screen time. Nah, let's change them so people will like them less.
CG anime? We have tons of girls with no background, please just give all of them some screen time, you can do whatever as long as you do that. Nah, let's just give the main trio focus, the rest can cameo.
Still feels like a stab in the back from Sunrise. Imas get an actual anime? Nope, let's just make xeno. How many series even get that kind of false first impression? You know what people thought of imas before 2011? "Oh isn't that the anime where that girl falls in love with a robot". Meanwhile it takes until 2011 to get a proper anime. Then Love live gets a proper anime, with every girl getting screen time, 2 seasons and a movie, all focusing on muse, no delicious in girls like ML and so on. Also better written. No wonder people like love live more, at least based on the anime.
Speaking of which one thing the anime got wrong is having a goal. They just kind of get popular because that's what idols do. In the game there's always some award to win or event to go to. While in the anime all the conflict is about "are they going to hold the concert or not?". As in, as soon as they get to the concert the conflict is gone. There's nothing to win or people to go against because it's their own concert. I noticed this after watching the love live anime where the goals were "save our school" and "win love live" respectively.
No.2069
>>2054>but outside those episodes, the focus was spread throughout the cast. In CG though? Everyone besides the trio is just lifeless decorations.Were we watching the same anime? As the 765 anime also did this. Most "group" scenes were just "we're all sad" "we're all happy" or "only a few will talk while the rest just stand there". Also really the second half of the anime and movie were majorly just about Chihaya and Haruka. There were many scenes with just them, where they didn't even bother pretending the rest existed. You bet people were pissed about that when it happened. Even the Million Live fans aren't happy with the movie because they only focused on two out of six of them. The Live for You OVA was even more guilty of this as the others only show up for a bit at the beginning and end while about 80% of the 15 minutes is namassuka trio only.
Here's something to think about. Would you rather an idol get little to no focus but no negative opinions formed, or an idol get focus but changed in a negative way?
By the way if you need more evidence that trio focus was coming, look at pre anime info and merch. The majority of it is of the trio. Then again 765 got little merch before it's anime. Really CG is lucky in that regard. It gets a figma within a year of release (in casual clothing might I add, the only casual clothing figs 765 got was nendo petites from 2009), 765 takes 9 years (in ugly ML pink and silver colors), Rin gets a nendo within 3 years, 765 still doesn't have one despite every other idol anime having one (Even WUG has one), CG gets high quality (Good Smile Company) scales within two years, 765 took 4 years to get anything decent. Then again when 765 came out in 2005 the figure market wasn't nearly as commercialized as it is now, but it still hasn't changed that CG is the one being favored when it comes to money and advertising.
CG is the one that gets all the fans with none of the effort. Fleshing out the characters? Having a game that isn't just gambling for digital cards? Who needs that as long as they look pretty. And the fans agree "Yes give me undeveloped characters, yes I'll spend hundreds on digital cards, who cares about the originals, not me. Now let's go flood every place where imas exists with them." Maybe I'll just go hide under a rock until the end of July. Or would digging a hole and burying myself in it be more fitting.
No.2070
>>2059>How come the quality of the anime rides on how much screen time gets spread around to all of the idols?Everyone wants to see their favorite girl get some time in the lime light. Due to how anime works many people will only watch and form their opinions based on the anime. That's why the 2011 anime gets so much hate by long time fans, even back when it was airing it did. It gives everyone the wrong impression of 765 and what imas is about as a whole. "Hey remember that song danketsu? Nah, let's just give three of the girls a plot. Oh and for the movie, let's make Haruka the leader."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LGIjpalCIThis damage is still done to this day. In Japan the secondaries are overflowing "Hey I'm in middle school and I love imas! :D I also play CG and ML so add me!" (most of them like whatever namco dishes out by the way. The movie got glowing reviews, the only complaints I've seen were for the CGI bits), and I still see people making obvious anime only comments regarding 765 here, and you can bet they'll do the same with CG. Rin is the new Haruka, except Rin is actually popular, amazingly popular. Really it says a lot about the CG anime when the Producer is more popular than most of the idols.
No.2105
>>2069>>2068Sadly, nothing explains still that why there isn't anyone else but 4 girls in CG anime.
I mean, everyone else is pretty much an unnamed character in this one.
THis is not on the level as any other trio focusing up to date.
This is a completely different level where nobody else even gets as much as a proper scene, never mind episodes.
No.2108
What's even worse is that Rika is depicted as unable to act erotically, and just a stupid kid who wants to copy her sister.
Of course, no fanservice either this episode, unlike Miku's ass.
No.2109
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No.2111
Jesus Christ guys… I don't even know why the fuck I'm laughing at this it looks like the discussion goes over the same point again and again with little changes. Being quite out of my sense right now I would rather not have to show my opinion… but seriously, what the fuck.
No.2112
>>2111The series is just that bad, unless you are the fan of the 4 characters in the show.
No.2113
>>2108Yeah, being treated as "just a child" by a girl 2 years older than her was a bit disheartening.
I am sure they will keep her as a "good little girl" instead of giving her erotic outfits, which is a shame as a Rika fan.
No.2120
>>2108>>2113Welcome to the era of loli shaming.
No.2121
prpr
No.2122
>>2121It's not even PreCure level detailed, though I expected that much.
Mika: getting all fanservice and sexy as fuck outfit/design.
Rika: just a kid, can't sexualize. "Thank you" anime industry.
No.2123
>>2120The Tokyo games are coming up, of course they're going to be more strict with that. They love using loli as a scape goat.
It's too bad the twins got so tall, they felt a lot more like lolis in 1st vision. They may be 13 but when they're as tall as the teenagers no one really believes that. No wonder they're not so popular when they lost one of their main appeals and you tell people to pick between them instead of just having both together like before.
No.2126
>>2122>sexy as fuck outfit/designMore like "slutty as fuck". I hate seeing lolis deprived of fanservice as much as the next guy, but in this case, I think Rika is better as a cute little kid than as a total semen demon like her sister.
No.2128
>>2126Yeah, no.
She was supposed to be just as much a sexy type, but as expected, anime once again showed that lolis can't and shouldn't be sexualized.
>>2123Yeah, Yayoi is older than them, but in 2nd vision she's the best choice to go if you want loli.
No.2148
Anyone still cares?
Episode airs in 10 minutes.
No.2149
>>2148Yeah, I'll be watching it at some point. I feel I need to watch the whole series before making a judgement.
No.2150
>>2148Just barely. Not enough to even watch it the day subs are out, let alone live.
No.2151
>>2148I'm just watching it raw out of obligation at this point. Hoping for some more cameos maybe.
No.2153
Kanako keeps giving others sweets because she's trying to make them fat like her.
No.2154
>>2148I'm still watching it as soon as subs come out (I'm in class when it airs), still feel like it was a whole lot of wasted potential - especially when compared against the original imas series.
No.2155
>>2153Outstanding work, Detective Anon.
No.2156
>>2154It's an adaptation of fucking Cinderella Girls. I don't know why you were expecting anything decent.
No.2157
>>2156I thought it would be a gateway into CG, as I've always wanted to get more into it. Why so hostile.
No.2158
>>2156Here, anon. You get a little bitter when you're hungry.
No.2159
>>2158Should have posted Haruka's donuts.
>>2154Honestly I'm pretty dissapointed with how much they're reusing stuff from the 2011 anime but then again they've shown several times they're one trick ponies.
>>2157There's really not that much to get into honestly.
No.2160
So who is surprised it really happened?
>same outfits
>Minami fanservice
>Rika no fanservice
So loli hating continues even in CG.
No.2161
>>2160What's with all the autism regarding loli hate? I prefer people complaining about NG to that.
No.2162
>>2161It's just that irritating.
They picked Rika of all girls. RIKA. Not Nina.
Now if they picked her there isn't really a damn reason not to sexualize her, but they still decided they shouldn't, because she's a kid.
Funny. And next moment, we get huge breasts popping out of clothes just to be the fanservice they're pretty sure all fans wanted.
No.2163
No.2164
>>2163>having lolis>this animation staffThat's your problem Miku.
No.2166
>>2165Rika would be enough.
And Miku already got just enough (good for her not being loli).
No.2167
>>2166Won't happen. Don't even hope.
They covered up her fucking midriff and hers alone.
No.2168
NANCHARA, NANCHARA, NANCHARA~
No.2169
Reposting from 8/a/'s CG thread.
Here's some quotes from the 2ch /anime/ board thread. Might post more as there's a lot.
>13: That was a god tier episode! I cried together with Miku-nyan. If it keeps up this quality I can keep looking forward to it until the end.>15: Honestly it was the worst script yet>18: I've noticed the clock showing up a lot in the past five episodes, I wonder if it's also meant to represent the impatience and limited time an idol has to do activities.>20: It seemed like something they could have fit into two episodes. I wouldn't say it was a bad episode, but it wasn't god tier either.>21: I guess they're going back to NG at the center next week. They finished introducing all the other characters too. I'm looking forward to the surprise appearances, but I wonder if they'll be frequent.>25: It had horrible low comedy. The development and characters were pathetic too. It'd be better if they changed the script writer. It was a script that seemed like it was written by a delusional otaku that knows nothing about the idol industry.>28: >>25 This episode was written by a different person too>29: It was very interesting, but I think we can agree there was something lacking about the script. I guess I can accept this kind of world view. I think I might have liked the gags and jokes more than the serious parts.>32: >>21 Those three again? I've already had enough>33: Honestly I wanted Ranko and Anya to pair up like in the OP.>39: I also wanted Ranko and Anya paired like in the OP. I thought it'd be interesting if Anya who isn't that good at Japanese learned from Ranko's odd way of speaking. But I guess her being with Minamin is okay too.>30: The flow of the episode wasn't bad but the contents of Miku-nyan's speech seemed off. She said "even though I tried so hard I couldn't debut", but because she wasn't drawn as trying hard that much it's hard to have empathy for her. I think if they had focused on only three people getting attention then there would be more empathy. Also I didn't really like P's reply to ShibuRin's question of why he picked them. Also Ranko and Anya were really cute.>74: I want a doujin where Mio does it with her classmates. I won't buy it though.>123: Love Laika wwww It sounds kind of like Love Liver (term for Love Live fans) wwww>163: Aren't new idols supposed to debut on TV first? Otherwise no one will be familiar enough to buy their CDs.>168: Miku's so annoying. I guess causing a disturbance out of jealousy is realistic. She's the worst member.>180: Hey The story is getting more and more worse, but what is this. What is this>188: Since 4 and 5 were two shit episodes in a row the fans are putting it down>204: I wonder why the guy who wrote locodol worked on this episode>208: >>204 Yeah locodol was really fluffy. I wonder why they suddenly wrote this kind of episode.>238: Needs more glasses>241: Are the Love Livers still trying to fight? It's warHere's the thread if you want to go through the rest too.
https://archive.today/L63M9 No.2170
>>2169>I've already had enough>Miku's so annoying>two shit episodes in a row>The story is getting more and more worse>Also Ranko and Anya were really cute.Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
No.2172
>>2169>74: I want a doujin where Mio does it with her classmates. I won't buy it though.>238: Needs more glassesThese guys seem alright.
No.2268
So what did you think of the drama? They managed to get to it twice as quickly this time. I find it hard to feel empathy in situations when the drama was caused by the person's own ridiculous expectations or actions. Also it seemed pretty predictable Mio was going to do this since episode 3.
For example the deleted bad ending for the twins was bad because they always go on about how close they are and how they always do everything together, so to see an ending where they argue and blame each other while you can't do anything to help them due to your failings gets me down.
No.2270
>>2268There is all kinds of wrong with this CG anime.
They alwas draw the drama card while at this point they should focus on characterization and team building.
The characters who cause the drama always do it because ridiculous, annoying and retarded reasons; makes them look bad too.
The glorification share is also poorly done; Minami and Anastasia are glorified sexy and cool, Mika is perfect; whereas NG girls looked ridiculous, didn't even get to hear/see their performance, not to talk about Mio...
The lolis on the other hand are not just completely characterless by now, but also degraded to Miku's sidekicks. Sexy Rika is out of the question at this point.
I'm so angry, all my expectations were betrayed by this adaptation, which is boring, not warm or comfy at all but wrapped in plastic, and has writing issues; but the worst thing is the unfair character focus.
I don't even know what they expected, but this is gonna be the first Im@s related flop I think otaku already gave up.
No.2271
>>2270Honestly I don't get why idolmaster is always doomed to have shitty anime adaptations. Namco really needs to switch studios because A-1 is just not the right one for a series like idolmaster. I'm wondering if they only stick with them because they're under sony or not.
No.2272
>>2270This.
I can't hate it though. I still expected comfiness and comedy like Im@s had, but no.
They didn't even translate Ranko!
No.2273
>>2169Guess I'll do more for this week.
Here's the thread the quotes are from.
https://archive.today/sAuUw>31: So this episode was having Producer's spoiling of them turn back around on him. The other two are uselessly kind so it's poor quality. If it was reality it's expected someone like Mio-chan would burn out quickly.>34: It seems many people dislike this kind of story about frustrating failure>36: ShibuRin as leader (my viewpoint) She's the most appealing character so maybe she'd do good (meta viewpoint) She's the first used character, and she's on a bunch of products, so it's natural she'd be leader. Uzuki as leader (my viewpoint) She's the most central of the three. (meta view point) She's the main in the OP and was the lead in the first episode so she's the leader. ChanMio as leader Huh, you're the leader? I thought she was just saying it as a joke but ended up being the actual leader.>42: Haruka-san "Hey everyone, rather than thinking about how we look to the guests, should we be focusing on what we want to send to them? We've always wanted to sing in front of many people and today that dream is finally being made into reality. Even if we mess up a bit we can reach every part of this hall. Everyone trained so hard so we'll definitely reach them" ChanMio "There's barely any fans! Why? It's completely different from the live before! Even though I told my friends it was going to be a great live... I told them to hurry up or they wouldn't get a good seat... I look like an idiot! I thought it was going to be even better than the last live! That's enough! I'm quitting being an idol!" No.2274
>>2273>45: In the 2011 anime the office was small that could barely pay for the costumes at first. Just steadily getting more work was something to be thankful for and the idols understood that. While this time they might have been under that the impression that since they passed an audition by such a large office that they would have more showy activities planned. They're promised that if they work a lot they'll get promoted and are dreaming of that and it'll be great, but in actuality it's simple work with overtime and not many people get promoted so they might be puzzled by that.>47: Why do so many people think ChanMio is trash?>50: >>34 Rather than frustration at failure there's a strong impression of "the burdens of children". I think that even taken seriously it's natural to think "that's what you're going to focus on?!". Today I looked back on my response. I said I wanted the script to die. Although now I'm pretty calm.>52: Besides I don't think I'm frustrated at anyone besides Mio w>65: I'm happy the NEET girl doesn't have any frustration or failure or self-conceit No.2293
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Do you think next episode will save the show?
No.2294
>>2293Only if Anya replaces Mio, then yes, it will save the show.
No.2295
>>2294>Anya this Anya thatI'm fucking sick of glorifying that half breed any longer already. Not to mention Minami.
No.2297
We really are never getting some good Rika midriff are we?
No.2299
>>2297We aren't.
The anime wages war against the lolicon scum.
No.2300
So, anyone know what this special program is going to be? Episode 8 going to air march 6th, with this friday being this special thing.
No.2301
>>2300Let me guess.
It will feature Rin in a special program while Uzuki and Mio will be there too.
No.2303
>>2300I think it's a recap with the NG VAs.
No.2304
>>2300>>2303Yeah, I heard something about a recap as well. Just when I thought the show couldn't do anything more to lose my interest.
No.2305
>>2303>>2304WE NEED MORE NG!
FUCK ALL THE OTHER GIRLS AMIRIGHT?
Really, this series is making me hate the whole Idolm@ster franchise.
No.2307
>>2305Don't hate the whole of im@s. Just hate Cinderella Girls and all the other mobage shit.
No.2309
>>2307I can't make such distinct lines between everything under one franchise, sadly.
I don't want to hate the whole of Im@s. But it's happening either ways.
No.2310
>>2309I feel you. Not only is 765 losing precedence in the franchise, but its fans are disappearing from the net, at least on English-language sites. Now, most of the im@s content you're exposed to is CG, whether you like it or not, so it's natural to associate the franchise with bad vibes. Just try to remember what drew you to it in the first place. And hey, someday soon (TM) you'll be able to read/watch all the im@s 1 routes in English, so there's some 765 content to look forward to if you don't speak moon.
No.2313
No.2315
>>2305>>2309I'd never hate imas just because of CG. Even if imas does decline it doesn't change the prior years it was good.
>>2310It's more that because CG's anime is airing and 765 has nearly nothing going on right now. Of course CG is going to be around more. As to why 765 fans are decreasing it's easier to get into CG and most of 765's content is not officially translated. There's still many 765 fans in Japan, it's just harder to tell when they tend to be into all three, 765 CG and ML.
No.2322
And to nobody's surprise, Rika and Akagi ends up in almost dead last spots according to popularity polls.
Thank you CG anime so much for shitting on lolis.
No.2336
>>2322Isn't Akagi one of the least popular voiced CGs anyway? This is from a rigged poll from before the anime
I refuse to believe Mio and Shimamu made it to the top 5.
No.2338
>>2336However popular or unpopular they were, even all of that is gona after the anime is done with them.
No.2341
Do japs like Anzu at all? In the west everyone seems to dislike her.
No.2344
No.2346
Did the CG anime kill this board?
No.2347
>>2346The board killed itself.
No.2348
>>2341Anzu normally gets high rankings in community votes.
No.2349
>>2347Top rude.
But seriously, we had a steady, if slow, rate of posts for months; it wasn't until a few episodes of CG aired that things really sharply fell off.
No.2350
>>2349Certainly CG was a huge disappointment for anyone who liked the loli idols from it, and I think that core is pretty hardcore.
I stopped playing or caring about the franchise altogether for one, and don't even know why am I still watching the series reluctantly.
No.2351
>>2350To be honest people going on about lolis over and over wasn't helping matters. That gets really annoying.
No.2352
>>2351Don't worry, if you were a fan of any, you would go on about them too, since this is a disgrace. And all just because the staff doesn't care about them.
Original Im@s anime was unfair to some girls, yes, but didn't completely destroy them like CG does.
No.2353
>>2351>>2352I can understand the frustration of the l@li fans, but they do complain disproportionately, especially considering that the CG anime is a disgrace all around, and a lack of loli fanservice is far from the biggest problem.
Although, having dropped it for the time being, I'm going to avoid posting too much about it so that I don't just spout uninformed nonsense.
No.2354
>>2353It wouldn't be so bad if they just didn't include them.
But with all the saggy clothing they're purposefully giving Rika, it's a disgrace to her character, and reeks of moralnanogotry.
No.2360
Rika is fucking sexy in her baggy clothes.
No.2361
>>2360Yeah, no.
It might have worked if they put some effort into drawing her instead of making her and Miria into Miku's side monkeys.
No.2364
>>2360Because layered and baggy clothing is totally her type, god forbid the game ever sexualizing the little sister!
No.2367
What should be done to save the anime from total loss? Not even Wake up Girls flopped this hard.
No.2368
>>2367Just put it out of its misery. It's too late for that though.
No.2371
>>2367>>2368How well is it doing in Japan? Has it gained any traction there?
No.2372
>>2371It's doing mediocre ever since the episodes started airing.
And the reception is bad, but it's no surprise.
No.2373
>>2364That's not what I said.
>>2361There's some truth to this.
No.2374
>>2353>but they do complain disproportionatelyVery much so.
No.2375
Trouble is, complainers are equating Rika's clothes with her character.
Which is pretty much bullshit. Rika is a cheeky and sexy brat no matter what she wears, and insisting that she wears any particular kind of clothing, or to base her character on a single shtick, is just as disrespectful.
I'll wait to see what anime does with her before I make any definitive judgement.
No.2378
>>2375You already saw it.
"stop acting like that" and she stopped.
She's now Akagi #2, lackey of Miku. Forget being a sexy type of loli.
No.2380
No.2382
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Everyone shut up and bow down to your goddess.
No.2383
>>2380They don't care about either though.
No.2404
Wow. Rika fans were fucker pretty damn hard.
No.2405
No.2406
>>2405Nothing.
This series is just one bitter disappointment after the other.
No.2407
>>2406Such is life on /imas/.
No.2435
>this is allowed
>Rika and Akagi had no details and looked like MS pain drawings
FUCK YOU LOLI HATE SCUM SHIT EATER CG ANIME STAFF AND YOUR MORALnano FUCKING VALUES GOD I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY A BUS RUINING EVERY FUCKING FRANCHISE WITH YOUR LOLI HATING CRAP
No.2436
>>2435If you spent as much time doing something productive as getting mad about lolis you could draw your own lewd lolis by now.
No.2437
>>2436And who cares? Would those lolis get to be broadcasted throughout TV stations so that they can get to the public?
No? Then it's pointless.
No.2438
>>2435>MORALnanoWhy are you still watching this crap, anyway? Especially if it upsets you so much.
No.2440
>>2438You don't want to take his one purpose in life away, do you?
No.2464
They are DELIBERATELY making such angles that we don't see even a cute ass shot in trousers or anything like that from the lolis, how can this staff be so fucking loli hater scum? WHY?!
No.2467
It's pretty clear that the staff favorites are the Cool idols
No.2468
No.2469
>>2464Well they sure took no stops to make Rika as slutty as possible in the Dekoration episode, I'd say they're a bit generous even.
No.2470
>>2469>no stops to make Rika as slutty as possibleAside from, you know, NOT FUCKING SHOWING US A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NAVEL AT ALL OR ANY VISUAL FANSERVICE.
Who the fuck cares about her lines when she reeks of how the staff thinks about her, "can't sexualize an ugly kid". No, fuck this. This is loli and lolicon shaming.
No.2474
>>2470But we saw Miria's navel.
>HURR WE DIDNT SEE RIKA'S SO IT'S LOLICON SHAMINGYou're just too obsessed with Rika. You don't care about anything else.
Heck, if the anime was 13 episodes of Rika wearing different "sexy" clothes and nothing else, you'd be praising it saying it's the best thing to ever have happened.
No.2475
>>2474>we saw Miria's navelAHAHAHA, yeah that's right. We saw it! We certainly saw it, and what great details!
No.2476
I want to punch these nanogots, so horrible, everything about their fucking CD.