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 No.2298

What does /improve/ make of medical speed aka Adderall? I personally take it as the ultimate proof that contrary to popular belief, winners indeed do drugs. Adderall is the pill of champions. I can't imagine a workday without it.

If you have any old ADD diagnoses the doctors used to give out like candy, use it to get a script for this stuff. You won't regret it.

 No.2299

>>2298
>I can't imagine a workday without it
>Implying that is in any way good

You didn't exactly make a strong case.

 No.2301

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Would it help with motivation as well?

Was diagnosed with ADD when I was a kid so I might be able some.

 No.2302

>>2301
Motivation is unreliable when it comes to achieving success, why? Because it depends largely on how you are feeling. Also, it runs out.

Forming habits is what you should be focusing on doing and using willpower to help you achieve it.

tl;dr is this
>Write down all the productive tasks you want to start regularly doing
>Find a trigger (An established habit, for example brushing teeth, eating dinner etc)
>Use said trigger as a reminder to do your task straight after it
>Make your desired tasks super easy to do (So easy that you will 100% do it)
>Start doing it every day straight after the trigger you've chosen
>Reward yourself with a simple "Well done man, I'm awesome" every time you do it
>Do this regularly
>After a few days or a week increase the effort by a little
>Rinse and repeat

Eventually said task will become a habit and once it does, you won't need motivation or willpower to do it, it would just be instinctual at that point, even if it's something like waking up at 6am or studying for 6 hours a day.

Think of it as you planting a bunch of seeds now that weeks to months from now will be full grown plants. It's a good and easy investment and one way of insuring you do become productive.

 No.2303

>>2302
Yeah I'll try that, I need to form habits.

 No.2304

>>2303
Just remember to start small and to make the gradual increase not too big.

I'm going to make a detailed thread when I find the time. It will pretty much be going over what I said but with a lot more information as well as advice, tips and common problems etc.

 No.2306

>>2298

As I can see this is not strictly an antidepressant so I have nothing to say about it. As for antidepressants I have only bad histories about them. Maybe cause is that whole medical care in my country somewhat behind medical care of first world countries in some aspects. And treating of all sorts of psychiatric diseases is one of this lagging behind aspects. So many of my friends on various points in their life tried antidepressants. And all except one are broken people now. They are now whiners with problems with health and are mostly obese to some degree. One guy is balding and looks like Brendan Fraser and he is only 24. They live from one course of antidepressants to another, and are miserable in between. Some girl five years ago had hard time in uni, so she decided to take one course of antidepressants and she keeps repeating it from time to time. She is my friend so I can see what happened to her. Maybe AD not the cause of all negative effects that I see in these people. Maybe this is what happens to you if you keep rely on help from exterior world and do not seek strength within you. But anyway after what I've seen I decided that I'll never never never do any AD. If I have some struggle in life and I overcome it then I gain strength and confidence or if it's time of some sort of sorrow then I will grieve for some time, but after that I will be moving on and this also gives me experience and strength. I didn't have intention to sound like douche so if I was, forgive me, maybe I just have little knowledge in the field.

 No.2308

Honestly it did nothing for me. The first time. The second time I took it I had an alegric reaction and ended up in the hospital.

Drugs are not improving yourself, it's faking improvement.

 No.2315

>>2308


Some time ago I had some problems with studying so my mom started give me this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracetam , how she told me it should makes me thinks more clear. I don't know about "thinks clear". But when I was several day into course I went with my buddies to the bar and took several beers. After that I suddenly felt myself very tired. I was so tired then even breathing was hard and I felt like I had heavy pillow on my chest. I just lay on bench and took half an hour and liter of water to feel myself better. After that I was so scared that momentarily dropped this course and have never done such drugs after that. I understand that mix alcohol with drugs is bad idea, but nonetheless I don't want even consider such shit again.

 No.2316

>>2308
Drugs are not self-improvement, I agree. Using any substance as a crutch is not you. Be it adderal to get shit done, or alcohol to be social and make friends.

That said, there can be self-improvement through drugs. Shrooms have helped many work through depression, showing them what's holding them back and where to start. MDMA has helped people become more social, even when not on the drug. There are many other examples.

Adderal in particular I don't see there being much improvement of the self by using it. But used wisely, it can improve your life. Maybe by getting a lot of studying/essays written, or getting a lot done towards launching your own business. It is a useful tool.

>>2315
Piracetam is about as safe as nootropics come, anon. You should have known better than to mix any mind-altering substance with alcohol. Don't blame the drug, blame yourself. Check out the Smart Drug Dictionary if you want to know more about nootropics, they can do you a lot of good.

 No.2456

I have ADD. All these pills do for me is give me severe anxiety and make me extremely tired.


 No.2458

>>2456

Can you please tell me more about ADD. What problems it causes you in everyday life. How do you feel yourself without pills. What perspective do you have on the account of ADD. I have some general knowledge but it will be extremely interesting to hear some first-hand experience.


 No.2480

>>2458

Good stimulants for me are nicotine and tea. Specifically tea, because coffee/pure caffeine gives me anxiety.

Without the pills, I feel "normal". With them, I feel like I'm running on fumes at 150 % speed. You can't slow down though. And once you come down, you feel TERRIBLE.

I feel like if a normal person is mildly sleep deprived, but only suffers the mental aspect of it, it's pretty much what ADD is on a day-to-day basis. When I am tired though, I go into a mode where I do not function. I might eat enough and sleep enough, but try to engage me in a conversation or put me to non-manual work, and I will not be able to do it in a worthwhile manner. I can do dishes and similarly menial manual work if I absolutely have to, but I'd rather just eat, sleep and vegetate in front of the computer when I'm in that state.

When I'm wake and alert though, it feels like my brain moves slower than most peoples. I'm capable of quite sophisticated thought though. I figure out solutions to programming challenges that most people can't even grasp. Database structures I can make in my head. This is because it's not part of the ADD problems.

I have problems with recall and keeping stuff in mind. I'll walk into a room and have to stop and think "why did I get up and go in here?"

In group conversations, I will have to process certain things, or get distracted temporarily, and get left out as a result. It becomes really hard to get back into the conversation as a result, and I have left social settings because it becomes too much to deal with.


 No.2521

>>2480

>Specifically tea, because coffee/pure caffeine gives me anxiety.

my nigga, i get extreme anxiety as well on attention meds, I've tried vyvanse, adderall, and ritalin and all they did for me was make me look like a meth-head, twitchy and anxious. Though It might be due to the fact that I have ADHD and not ADD. Either way I'm currently unmedicated and I can't focus on shit.


 No.2524

>>2521

Strangely, I hear that ADHD people respond better to medication than ADHD-PI [ADD].

I'm experimenting with diet and mindfulness to try and cope. Trying tyrosine supplementation.

And right now I'm procrastinating…


 No.2617

>>2315

haha what a pussy. you couldn't even handle piracetam?

shit, I've been loaded to the tits on noots and stimulants. ergoloid + piracetam + bromocriptine + DLPA + nicotine + caffeine and if you're really feeling ballsy, throw in some amphetamine.

get shit dun.




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