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 No.2351

So I can't afford college and rather not get myself into massive debt with a loan but been looking up trades. Is a trade worth it in the long run? Is it easier to get employed through a trade?

 No.2359

>>2351
Can you afford community college? Also, what trade are you thinking of picking up?

Seriously the American system for college is pretty retarded, here they pay for your entire college degree excluding masters regardless of what you do.

 No.2361

>>2359
I may be able to afford community college. Considering becoming Electrician, maybe even Lineman.

 No.2392

It just depends man, like everything else.

Plus CC's ARE the trades for the most part. Check out your local CC and you'll probably find an electrician AAS there for relatively cheap.

If you can by all means get that paper and knowledge, it will make life so much fucking easier down the road, trust me.


 No.2520

Bumpity bump for a good /improve/ment you can make for yourself. I highly recommend electrical. It is not only a solid career choice in an of itself, but understanding concepts related to electricity, magnetism, etc. can lead you down many higher pathways.

Personal experience: I will graduate my study period with qualifications in electrical work and instrument technician work. These alone could very well last me until I retire, but will also open doorways into engineering qualifications, and even into other fields like robotics and process automation/logic controller programming.

>>2361

Solid.


 No.2526

If anyone here live in or around houston and wants to go for a trade check out san jac central, they service the port area of houston and have some pretty cool programs and connections.

Hella cheap for what you get. They have night classes and options for certificates and AAS degrees for a lot of them too.

>>2520

What exactly are you going for? How long do you have left?

Electrical sounds hella nice. I'd totally go for it if I wasn't already working on my NDT associate. If definitely sounds as if its more versatile which is something I'm REALLY looking for as I plan on leaving this state in the future, if only for awhile and want to have some ammo in my belt.

The school I'm going to has two different programs though think you can help me out?

http://www.sanjac.edu/sites/default/files/Electrical%20Technology_0.pdf

>looks as if this is more industrial

http://www.sanjac.edu/sites/default/files/Electronics-Technology.pdf

>deals with smaller scale electronics

I think the first one would yield better bang for buck than the bottom, thoughts? They're only associates, not anything major but at the moment that's all I can afford/give time for.


 No.2530

>>2526

Had a quick look at those course information sheets. My corner of the world is different from yours so I doubt specifics will match up, but I'll give my 2 cents.

My apprenticeship lasts 4 years and gives me an electrical license, plus a qualification as an instrument technician, plus everything I learn on the job at my place of employment. This also includes industry specific inductions and required training courses (safety shit), paid for by either my placement company or training institute.

> Electrical Technology vs. Electronics

> tl;dr pick the first one

Aye, Electrical Technology (Electrotechnology at my institute). This is by-and-large your stock standard license-to-work-with-electricity. Like I mentioned in the previous post, you can live off this as a tradesperson, run your own mom-and-pop electrical company, hold employment as an electrical technician etc. or use it as an avenue into higher qualifications in a very diverse range of fields. It really is a solid foundation, and failing all else you'll at least be able to wire shit around your own house.

Electronics is a field unto its own, and is a field I have limited exposure to. One person I know quite well who holds the electronics equivalent of the electrical qualification I'm undertaking has found it pretty hard to find permanent employment. This is most definitely due to many circumstantial factors, but certainly one factor is how niche the qualification is. It won't give you an electrical license and the experience this course gives you will limit you to niche fields like computing equipment, medical equipment, small scale stuff. Good to have, good to know, you could definitely go far in a career with it, but not as safe, I think, as the electrical option.


 No.2542

>>2530

That's what I figured. If I do for for it's I"ll try Electrical Technology. Thanks man.


 No.2544

>>2530

Also, since I have you here and you seem to know more about this.

What's the typical progression for an electrician? Like what is journyman/master electrician? Is there a specific certifying body that gives the title? Is there a test?

Let's say I throw out my NDT stuff, and go for electrical? Where should I start and all that in terms of work/education?

I figure I'll try this AAS but what after?


 No.2545

>>2351

You could become a plumber or you could get a soldering licence or forklift licence. The good thing about not doing a course through uni is retraining to a better job is cheaper and often quicker.


 No.2851

I might go to a trade school. I'm not sure though. I'm at the point where it's less of "what I want to do." and more "what do I think or know I can do."

It would be very far from where I live. I'm 23. I don't care about my "dreams" anymore. I care about having money and not being homeless. I'd like be making 45-50k a year ( being realistic) I'm not at that level that I can get a really high paying job ( as far as I know)


 No.2853

>>2851

If you live in the us have a look at the government occupation handbook. It has a bunch of stats on growing and decking jobs and how Much openings are expected. Not the best but better than nothing.


 No.2856

>>2853

I was going to go for machining.It's pretty much all CNC work these days.




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