No.2596
Ok, ok, before autists come in say "it's subjective!" and "whatever you find most fun!", let me just say that the purpose the thread is classify and find the hobbies with the most benefits, physically, mentally and finicallly with the least downsides.
Before you try to master anything, I believe you should focus on; building up the mind, increasing your memory, visualization, subconscious processing, thoughtform networks, etc. to achieve a superior level of intelligence.
Me prior to mind-building / training: Took me ages to read and it still barely made an impression in my mind.
Me today after so much work on fixing up my mind and diet: Can read through a book and remember it all and cite parts of it, can process large volumes of new information intelligently and apply it, can learn new skills and develop in anything I do much faster now.
I'll start the thread out with a simple tier-list I whipped up.
The best hobbies, imo, are
>reading+writing+art (obviously. art is a very broad topic including things like sewing, knitting, pottery, graffiti, drawing, painting, etc)
>cooking, nutrition, fishing and gardening (or at least some understanding of the processes involved)
>music (singing, musical instruments)
>technology
>science
>programming
>bodybuilding
>some sports
And some fun, but, pretty useless hobbies
>origami
>juggling
>puzzles
>calligraphy
Mundane-tier crap
>most collecting-based hobbies (muh cards, muh rocks)
>99% of video games
No.2598
Whatever helps your self-realization.
No.2600
>some sports
boxing - builds confidence, dexterity, strength where it counts, bad side is the head trauma. if you have lasik then forget it.
rock climbing - haven't tried it but dat grip/back/arm strength, social thing as well
>technology
>science
>programming
These are hella broad. Would working on cars be under technology? Would they be their own hobby? There's also stuff like gunpla which if done right can teach you a lot about coating applications, coatings themselvse which can transfer to a lot of blue collar jobs. Rocketry would seem interesting but ultimately what would you get out of it though?
No.2601
>>2600
What I'm trying to say with that last part is that some hobbies can easily be transferred for your benefit whereas something like rocketry you still need a degree, connections and years of experience before you can touch them IRL.
Programming? Not so much.
No.2616
>>2601
>>2600
Yea, very vague and broad but I just wiped it up quickly. Of course it can be improved, which I'm going to do. Any suggestions?
No.2618
No.2622
>>2618
I dunno but I just had an idea for a competition.
Basically we'll all pick 1 hobby for the following
>potential money maker
>intellectual
>social
>fun
We'll follow it for one month religiously, trying to learn as much about them as we can, then report back.
Even if we fail we could trade stories and hopefully learn a thing or two.
No.2623
>>2622
one more category i forgot to mention
>physical
No.2633
>best
>art
>useless
>calligraphy
Just why
No.2638
>>2633
Dunno, you tell me.
No.2645
>>2633
I'm not the OP, but
>art
It helps you learn and makes you overall happier. Just google or scholar.goole it - there is plenty of research on that.
Doodling/drawing in particular can also help you to kill some time when on a boring meeting/class, but it won't distract you too much and you can still pay attention to what is being said.
You can also pick up chicks using it. Just doodle something on a napkin in the bar for example, and if you're good someone will eventually get interested. If you play your cards well, you might be drawing her next.
No.2651
>>2645
No, I understand why art is good, I was wondering why calligraphy was ranked below art.
No.2652
>>2651
Probably, because every generation writes by hand less and less. Sure, it is convenient to have a nice handwriting, but as long as your notes are legible enough for you and others to read, you are good.
No.2656
Piggybacking off of this post >>2600 I want to say that my most practical hobbies are the /k/ and /o/ related ones. /o/ is obvious in the sense that I can find a good deal on a good car if I need to in the future and save money by fixing a car myself instead of paying extra for someone else to do it, while the /k/ related "SHTF" type stuff can give information on everything from medicine to cooking to simple tool making.
OP is also correct in the sense that video games are mostly useless IF you don't use them as a social platform, but if you do then its a good way to expose yourself to different people that might expose you to other hobbies or knowledge that could be interesting/useful to you. Just make sure you stay away from groups like the tourneyfags and most people that play MMORPGs because they tend to be pretty shit as far as keeping their life in tact.
No.2659
>>2600
Boxing is pretty bad, especially since almost all clubs today use gloves which leads to an even higher injury rate.
Rock climbing is fucking GREAT, helps with fear of heights, improves forearm, grip and back strength like none-other. Top-tier physical hobby IMO, great to combine with bodybuilding.
No.2706
Archery, books, programming, bodybuilding, are all mine.
No.2709
>>2601
My own opinion is that Programming will probably be the top dog of hobbies.The potential that is has is astounding. Especially with all the learning material out there, it's insane not to at least look for yourself.
As for everything else, man, there's just so much out there that could cater to so many tastes. Take gunpla for instance, if you take the painting side of it seriously, there's tons to learn about coatings and applications that transfer to real world industrial jobs.
I just don't know. The topic is very interesting don't get me wrong but it's just such a dynamic question that any answer I give, even the programming one, just seems grossly wrong to me.
No.2814
I enjoy shooting at the range and trying to get better and better at it. I also like reading and working on photography. Used to draw a lot in high school and college. Never was that good at it.
No.2815
>>2709
Yea uh, it's a tough topic but it does need to be tackled.
No.2974
No.2979
We should make a power rankings chart like the one for majors so help me flesh this out.
Money Making Tier
WebDev
Progamming
Gentleman Tier
Mathematics
Literature
Physical Tier
Aerobics/Stretching
Swimming
Rock Climbing
Novelty Tier
Language Learning
Craft Beer
Entertaining Tier
Anime/Manga
Complete Waste of Time Tier
Vidya
Gunpla
Tryhard Tier
Weightlifting
Guitar
Commence the butthurt
No.2980
>>2979
>Tryhard Tier
>Weightlifting
A-anon please. Doing it as a hobby (or something that you just throw money and time at beyond what you need to) is a bit retarded, but as far as exercise goes lifting is pretty top tier and there's far worse hobbies one could have.
And I wouldn't put learning foreign languages in novelty tier either as there's some pretty clear real world and intellectual benefits to doing that (being able to translate shit and work in more countries is never a bad thing career wise), so while there's better things you could spend time learning in order to make shekels it's way more than a novelty.
No.2981
I think any hobby that gets you exercising your mind, body, senses or some other aspect of yourself is a good hobby. Likewise, any hobby that is very passive or uninvolved is probably a waste of time.
Some top-tier hobbies IMHO: Literature, Arts & Design, Meditation, Sports, Yoga, Gardening, Cooking, Programming, Carpentry, Traditional Games, Hunting & Foraging, Camping & Survival, Foreign Language, Electrics, Mechanics, Sciences.
Don't forget to have a balanced diet! Exercise your body, mind AND senses.
No.2985
>>2980
Weightlifting is tryhard tier because it's all for show. Tell me I'm wrong.
Language is novelty because for 97% of people learning a language(speaking only for the US) they will either learn simple words and phrase and never evolve from that, or learn halfway decent only to find out that they don't use it and forget it.
At least in Europe they are near other countries that speak differently but in the US, aside from Spanish, it's all English pretty much. There's really no need for it aside from bragging rights. IE novelty status.
>>2981
>Meditation
overrated
>Yoga
This is actually pretty good. I figured it would be covered under flexibility but I'll put it in separately.
>Carpentry
Money maker. Totally slipped by me.
>Traditional Games
waste of time. nothing but circlejerking and memorizing useless stats.
>Hunting & Foraging
Tryhard to the maxx.
No.2988
>>2985
>Weightlifting is tryhard tier because it's all for show. Tell me I'm wrong.
Are you serious here? Being strong is an integral part of being a man. Weightlifting is improving your body, making it more capable of handling and overcoming the obstacles you encounter in your life. Your body is your one and only physical vessel in this world, and to neglect it is every bit as foolish as neglecting your mind. If you don't train your body, you'll end up a fat, weak, useless man at 40 and decrepit at 60. A strong man who trains his body stays strong until the day he dies. And even the "showy" side of it, what's wrong with that? A muscular man is automatically seen as a more dominant man by those around him. Men listen, women watch. There's nothing wrong with wanting to look good.
>meditation is overrated
Meditation is to the brain what lifting is to the body. Mindfulness meditation is also an excellent tool for those struggling with anxiety or depression. Don't talk shit on things you don't understand.
>Language is novelty
What the fuck? Learning a new language improves your verbal fluency in your native tongue and the ability to efficiently and fluently communicate and express ideas is incredibly valuable. On top of that, it also improves your brain's neuroplasticity, which makes it more adaptable, learns faster and more easily, and is more resistant to the effects of aging.
>hunting and foraging are tryhard
What is such a pussy even doing on a self-improvement board? Fuck anon, I bet you identify as a feminist. Hunting and foraging, along with learning basic survival skills is one of the most basic and important things you could do. If you can't even handle that basic shit then you're not better than a baby completely reliant on his mother's tits for sustenance and his father's strength for protection, except you're suckling on your government's teats. If you can't manage such basic survival skills then you're at the mercy of those around you.
No.2989
>>2988
And to further to point of language, did you even consider travel? Sure an American may rarely encounter foreign languages aside from Spanish, but why would you let that stop you? Learn the language of a country that interests you and go and spend a few years there. Even if you're only visiting, knowing the language will improve your experience immensely.
No.2990
>>2988
>weightlifting
There's nothing wrong with it. I just consider it tryhard because it's the easy way out for dudes who still think they're the greatest shit ever(generally speaking). There isn't the spirit of a contact sport. The health of endurance training. No real dynamic challenge. It's a numbers game. Sleep well, eat a lot, lift a lot so at the end of the day you can take of your shirt and be ogled at by people who think you do more than what you actually do. It's as tryhard as you can get.
>meditation
Do yourself a favor. Instead of looking inside your mind why not face your problems. Like a real man as you yourself say.
>language
>it also improves your brain's neuroplasticity, which makes it more adaptable, learns faster and more easily, and is more resistant to the effects of aging.
Look, if you're so scared about aging why not freeze yourself? And if you're really into learning then learn something useful then.
I'm not saying a language doesn't give you those effects but please fuck off if you don't understand the concept of the thread, which is to rank hobbies. Language is a novelty for most people. Get over it. As for travel, bitch please, do you realize how many countries and languages there are in the world? Do you suggest learning all of those as well? Shove that example right up your ass.
Obviously we have a different conception of what learning a language is. Any fucking moron can learn a few phrases so that he can hire underage hookers in bangkok. But to actually LEARN a language and dedicate that amount of time without needing to(unless it's english) is a complete waste.
>hunting and foraging
I'm not even gonna waste my time here.
No.3007
>>2596
>
Before you try to master anything, I believe you should focus on; building up the mind, increasing your memory, visualization, subconscious processing, thoughtform networks, etc. to achieve a superior level of intelligence.
OP, any chance you or someone else in this thread with knowledge, can comment more on this stuff and/or share links? It shoulds fascinating.
I've heard of techniques like image streaming but never tried them.
No.3016
>>2990
I would bet a significant amount of money that you live in a city and make efforts to dress fashionably.
No.3019
Try learning another language. I picked up French in my early twenties. It's got me more women than I would have without it, it got me hired over more qualified candidates and it's just fun to read in and speak a language that none of your old friends/family could.
Expect to put in some serious work if you want to get up to the C levels, though.
No.3021
>>2990
>The health of endurance training
Weightlifting is very healthy.
No.3023
The best hobbies are ones you actually enjoy and chose to do of your own volition.
I like weightlifting, cardio and rockclimbing for fitness personally.
No.3024
>>3023
Oh and creative hobbies are really good, like writing music, or being in a band, writing stories or poetry, painting, knitting, anything. It makes you an interesting person. Talk to people about it, and you will find people who appreciate you for it. Don't make it your entire identity but don't hide it.
And reading a ton of literature just leads to an absurdly distorted worldview, reading a lot of philosophy can be downright dangerous, especially good philosophy. It's like a skinnyfat loser trying to lift Schwarzenegger's training weights: yeah, it can immeasurably improve an already strong person, but if you aren't good enough, it will just fucking crush you. Think of all the fourteen year old Nietzsche quote-spouters and you'll have a rather extreme example.
No.3025
All of this in the picture should fall under "watching entertainment" (including watching instead of actually playing sports) and "Reading Fiction" should -aside from not being considered a hobby- rate at IQ = 100.
LIST OF SUPERIOR HOBBIES (in order):
>Advanced projects such as robotics/arduino-RasPi automization or anything else using relatively advanced technology or control engineering.
>Hydroponics and similar projects
>Any other electronic projects
>Programming projects
>Lifting, health and nutrition
>Camping, hiking, kayaking etc.
>Games (grand strategy, chess etc.) and educational software (playing around with simulators etc.)
>Gardening
>Music (playing an instrument)
>Playing sports
>Carpentry, model building and related
>POWER GAP
>100 IQ level retard line
>Video games and all other shit where you don't need to think.
>Frogposting
Not included is anything that is obtainable as a university education for obvious reason (history might be a hobby for you, but not for a professional historian), but studying texts outside your field should obviously rate fairly high. Reading popular literature from other fields (rather than true study) rates slightly above 100.
Simulators I mean things like fluid/particle/universe simulators, solidworks etc. people often play around with these purely as a hobby when not actively being used to design anything in particular. Things like Kerbal and minecraft are borderline, but too simplistic to be included.
By games I mean in a traditional sense, things that can be considered something of a modern chess trying to emulate more realism like grand strategy games. I would include things like SCII, even though people who disproportionately dedicate so much time to the hobby aren't usually intelligent. In my specific meaning the game should be constantly and actively engaging.
Video games are all story line based entertainment shit were the player just sits back and can complete it with time and minimal effort, closer to entertainment than my post-specific nomenclature of "game", it's lower than other entertainment because it can consume several hours with little variance or need to adapt. Things that are primarily reflex based like FPS etc. is included.
I should probably split simulators to be a little higher, but I didn't want to put too much effort into this shitpost.
No.3027
>>2596
>Before you try to master anything, I believe you should focus on; building up the mind, increasing your memory, visualization, subconscious processing, thoughtform networks, etc. to achieve a superior level of intelligence.
Can I ask how? My memory is so bad sometimes it feels like chemofog, where I can barely focus on anything. How did you improve those things?
No.3028
top tier:
>learning a foreign language
>learning a programming language
>learning an instrument, except the guitar
>reading about philosophy and theology
>networking, making friends
>backpack / bike traveling
>practicing extreme sports
high tier:
>practicing competitive solo sports
>learning to paint or draw classically
>reading literature
>debating in real life
>volunteering activities
>learning how to cook
>learning auto mechanics
>learning handyman and crafting skills
>having good sex
decent tier:
>practicing competitive team sports
>studying and making music, amateur
>studying and making film, amateur
>practicing writing, amateur
>lifting, getting /fit/
>reading about science or the humanities on a non-professional level
>dressing fashionably
cringe tier:
>learning the guitar
>learning to draw anime / comic book style
>reading genre fiction or mom garbage
>making indie video games
>making chiptune music
>learning pick up techniques
>collecting anything
>having shitty sex
human garbage tier:
>playing video games
>watching anime
>watching television shows
>watching mainstream movies
>listening to mainstream music
>debating on the internet
>reading internet journalism
>eating competitively
>doing drugs while partying
>shopping compulsion
>drawing anime porn
No.3029
>>3027
>>3007
Nutrition and exercise (cardio, weightlifting) are most important first of all.
I suggest checking out http://raypeat.com/articles/ and http://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20
No.3030
>>3029
Thanks man, I'll check this out.
No.3031
good:
>running
awful:
being a man and running with leggings
just fucknig don't unless you're in a comptetion or shit like that.
No.3043
>>3028
>learning a foreign language
Ok, maybe I'll relent and say it's not a bad thing but it doesn't belong in top tier. High Tier at the most.
No.3044
Most hobbies are not productive. Most people (YES, MOST PEOPLE) have hobbies that are massive wastes of time.
Whether it be model trains or appreciating high art. At the end of the day, it's done entirely for its own satisfaction. Some hobbies have more practical components (cooking, for example, can improve health. Sports keep you active for longevity and health. Some hobbies improve mental capacity), but at the end of the day you can gain these benefits without these things being your primary hobby (simple meals can still be healthy, you can hit the gym a few times a week without sports/gym being your hobby).
Anyway… at the end of the day, life is about being happy. Don't be some fat loser NEET not accomplishing anything with his life unless you are truly, truly happy. You can have a job or study and still find plenty of time for time-wasting hobbies, you don't have to work 9-5 or be some straight A student working towards a PhD.
Likewise, some 'wageslaves' truly are happy working 9-5 and then taking their work home with them.
Find what makes you happy (although make sure you aren't being a burden on others if you do go the NEET route) and fuck everything else. For 90% of people, this is a decent job but with plenty of time to indulge yourself in pointless activities.
No.3045
It's fine to categorize hobbies as consumption hobbies, creative hobbies, productive hobbies, etc. but they're all still hobbies. A hobby is something one does for pleasure rather than for money. By definition, one doesn't have to have a certain level of passion or advanced knowledge in order for what they're doing to be a hobby.
No.3046
>>3044
>not wanting to be as productive as possible
>not trying to streamline your life based on practicality
>justifying time wasting
WELL WELL WELL BOYS
LOOKS LIKE WE GUN HAVE ARESELVES A GUD OL' FASHION LYNCHIN
No.3047
>>3046
Well, all hobbies are practical in some sense or another. It's just that it's a lot easier to capitalize on some hobbies.
For example, fencing today is almost completely useless but you can become a trainer and make some decent money if you're good.
Another example, everybody needs a bit of down-time. You can't be fucking being 100% productive all the time you're not eating/shitting/sleeping. So hobbies that are a bit easier/relaxed but less productive are good, for example, painting or playing strategy games aren't very lucrative but are generally relaxing (if you don't get upset about being a shit player/shit painter).
It's all about dat balance.
“Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking." -Einstein
No.3048
>>3047
OP wanted to organize hobbies based on what's best for self improvement. Who cares about downtime in this respect? We all know we're going to fuck off and play video games or watch TV every so often.
What matters in the context of the thread is to organize hobbies based on usefulness that they would give in the real world.
I may have argued with >>2988 for awhile, but that's because we just differed on the status of the hobbies we were arguing about.
tl;dr YOUR FALLING FROM THE THREAD MOTHER GOOSE
PULL UP PULL UP
No.3049
>>3048
>more productive hobbies or skills and study
This is something often comes up when people talk about video games.
But what exactly counts as a more productive hobby or skill?
Things like reading books, learning instrument or a new language often thrown around.
I speak two languages and I read plenty of books, I can't say that I see what makes those activities so much different from playing video games.
Or is productiveness measured differently?
Like "If you learned to play the guitar you'd get laid so easily" is that how it is?
That the worth of an activity is measured by how likely it is to get you laid?
I thought humanity was past the whole living only to reproduce thing seeing as how we beat natural selection and all that.
Or is it about if something is actually produced?
That would leave only crafts and stuff like that left.
No.3050
God Tier
>learning physics, mathematics, "pure" chemistry, evolutionary biology, theoretical computer science, neuroscience or mathematical biology (as just a hobby or as as formal education)
>smoking cannabis or taking psychedelic drugs (including MDMA)
>listening to or producing trance, hardcore or hardstyle
>lifting for strength and aesthetics
>playing a sport that is powerlifting or oly weightlifting
>having sex outside of a committed relationship
Not Bad Tier
>learning other areas of biology, applied chemistry and analytic philosophy
>drinking alcohol, taking stimulants or opiates
>listening to or producing other genres of electronic music or classical music
>lifting only for aesthetics
>playing rugby or ice hockey
>having sex in a relationship
>reading made up stories
>making visual art
Shit Tier
>learning psychology, continental philosophy or any social "science"
>learning anything else that isn't mentioned above
>not taking drugs
>listening to or playing/producing any music that isn't electronic music or classical music
>doing cardio
>playing any other sport not mentioned above
Just my opinion, don't get rustled
No.3069
>Immortal tier
Reading
Writing
>High tier
Art
Fishing
Cooking
Beekeeping
Gardening
Climbing
Puzzles
Technology
Musical instruments
Bodybuilding
Mycology
Photography (hipster)
Exploration
Pottery
Knitting and sewing
>Ok tier
Hiking
Calligraphy
Singing
Sports
Acting
>Low tier
Homebrewing
Video games
Cosplaying
Origami
Darts
Air sports
Metal detecting
Skateboarding
Juggling
Martial arts
Skydiving
Graffiti (unless you're good)
>Shit tier
Any collecting-based hobby (maybe a few expections)
>Normie tier
NFL, rugby, soccer, handball, etc
>Weird tier
Listening to music
Candle making
Amateur radio
Flower arranging
Soapmaking
Gunsmith
Ghost hunting
Dowsing
No.3070
>>3069
>Body building is high tier
>Martial arts is low tier
No.3071
>>3070
Only autists and chinks do martial arts.
No.3072
>>3069
>high tier
>beekeeping
>puzzles
>mycology
>photography
>pottery
what liberal shithole did you crawl out of.
No.3104
>>3072
>complains about other people's list
>doesn't post their own
L
A
Z
Y
No.3125
>>3104
my personal list?
>actually do it tier
math
running
>fantasize tier
rock climbing
>never gonna happen
everything else
No.3162
>>3071
autists and chinks confirmed for superior to normalfags
No.3358
No.3359
No.3360
>>3050
>>3028
>>3028
does this cringe come from people playing nirvana, low tier rock songs?
No.3367
God Tier
>Investing
>Collecting expensive watches
>Tennis
>Travel
>Feng Shui
>Meditation
>Philosophy
>Theology
>Automotives
>FOSS
>Armature filming
High Tier
>Combat sports (MMA, Boxing, Judo, Traditional Wrestling, ect)
>Programming
>History
>Animal training
>Tech
>Literature
>Poetry
>Listening or playing classical music
>Bodybuilding
>Golf
>Homebrewing
>Hydroponics
>Art (Traditional or abstract)
Good Tier
>Competitive gaming (Chess, 40k, Starcraft, Street Fighter)
>All other sports
>Drinking Alcohol (High quality)
>Socializing
>Writing
>Music (Actually creating it)
>Models (Trains included)
>Rube Goldberg Machines
>Making Video Games
Average Hobbies
>Watching movies (Normal stuff)
>Music (learning other people's songs)
>Listening to music
>Watching sports
>Eating
>Television shows
>Politics
>Multiplayer Video Games (Casual)
Bad Tier
>Anime in general
>Single player Video Games
>Alcohol (Quantity)
>Drugs
>Pop Art
>Internet forums
>Political Activism
>Weapons
>Survivalism
>Cosplay
>Porn
>Pranks
>Reading (Teen Fic)
UNFORGIVABLE TIER
>Fetishes in general
>My Little Pony
>Furries
>Internet Activists
>Blogging
>Hard Drugs (Meth, Crack, ect)
>Otherkin
>Being a member of a fandom
>Hentai
==UNDERWORLD TIER==
>SEO
>Spamhaus
>Pro Wrestling
>Gambling
>Communicatins(Satellite, Radio Wave, Other)
>Performance Art
>Squatting
>Hitchhiking
>Moonshine
>Free Masonry
>Leading a Cult
>Cult Classic Films
>Underground Music
>Urban Exploration
>Culture Jamming
No.3370
>>3367
Pretty good list, a few weird ones though.
>god tier
>feng shui (really nigga)
>collecting expensive watches (kekerino)
No.3371
>>3367
Generally a good list, though I would say blogging isn't necessarily always a bad thing. If you're talking about gawker/jezebel or some other nonsense where it becomes more a diary, than yes. But there are some good blogs out there like dangerandplay and jamesclear (this one's a bit clean but does go over some good content). Than again that's like 1% of all blogs i guess.
No.3377
>>3025
>Baneposting
>190 IQ
are you serious?
No.3384
>>3377
>He doesn't Banepost
No.3414
>>2990
>weightlifting
>easy way out
Have you even tried it? Maybe you're not the average person. Maybe you can just think to do things and perform excellently each time at everything you set out to do.
But the "no real dynamic challenge" part?
What,
>Sleep well, eat a lot, lift a lot
Yes, at the end of the day it CAN be that simple, but how many people can find time and energy to do those things.
Maybe you're of high birth and have no pressure to do anything, really–not everyone has such an easy time to do the "simple numbers game" of sleeping well, eating a lot, and lifting a lot. Just managing those three, most people would have trouble with, I'd imagine. Some people have to juggle a lot of things such that it's difficult to do anything else.
It's an improvement of the body, time and resource management, and fortitude to COMMIT to take up something like weightlifting.
No.3422
If you do like playing video games, writing and maintaining a blog about them or writing for some freelance news site is not a bad idea…especially if you want to do some sort of career in writing be it journalism, technical writing, etc.
It at least turns something that is largely a waste of time, into something OK.
No.3423
>>3422
And to add to this more, do more opinion and editorial type of articles instead of reviews or some dumb "Top 10 WACKY Video Game FAILS!"
No.3444
>origami
>puzzles
I wouldn't say they are worthless.You can publish papers on these and contribute to economics, math, and science
No.3497
>>3050
>smoking cannabis
> (including MDMA)
>drinking alcohol, taking stimulants or opiates
Hanged.
Just try OBE or some trance meditation instead of fucking up your mind with sparsely studied drugs.
GOD
STEM
Running
Diet
Conversing with people or yourself
Maintaining a business on the side
Lifting
Basketball - No brain damage and super intense. Downside is the basketball americans but they're super chill if you play correctly
High
Maintaining a harem
NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Movies, music, and politics.
No.3501
>>3497
:^)
Music literally is the highest of all human endeavours. Listening to music and making music are two very different things.
Movies are shit yep, pure propaganda, but some directors are pretty based. Politics are too hard cause too much propaganda, its better to not indulge in if you are not willing to read a fuck ton.
Also, drugs can be useful if you are not a moron. Some drugs are poisons, those are to avoid. Others don't work as poisons but can cause deep psychological traumas, having this in mind, the best way to drug yourself is not indulging in anything you have read before.
If you take a psychedelic after reading pyschedelic culture shit, you gonna trip about psychedelic culture shit.
If you want to take them, just take them with a mindset of focused attention on to something non-partisan, such as a work problem or an artistic consumption, or just merely trip and have fun with a couple of friends.
Drug introspection is very difficult cause its almost always tainted by texts you've read before and are expecting to be proved by the drug's effects.
No.3776
>>2600
Wrestling is ten times better than boxing, and has a much lower risk for injury.
No.3918
No.3923
>>3367
>Underground music on lowest tier
>Making music is good tier
Its time to stop posting skillex
No.3926
>>2985
>improving physical condition
>tryhard
buttmad fatty detected
No.3940
>>2600
>those sports
Fuck that, the head trauma isn't some shit you can walk off and dying during rock climbing isn't that rare
I rather go for stuff like kayaking, martial arts, basketball, etc
>Would working on cars be under technology?
Car engineering sure, but mechanic its just maintenance.
>Rocketry would seem interesting but ultimately what would you get out of it though?
Working in aerospace? the pay is good just not great
No.3941
>>3367
>"god" tier
>Collecting expensive watches
Talk about waste of money, few watches increase in value and given the current state of watches as an accessory its a dying hobby, worse than post stamps (which are actually worth millions in some cases)
>Feng Shui
You can take your pseudoscience shit and shove it
>Theology
What are you? pol? christ-fag? give me a break…
>Tennis
>Armature filming
You realize of all that you posted in this tier only investing isn't shit? and investing itself isn't nearly as complicated as it used to, you got soccer moms buying stocks these days
However this part:
>Competitive gaming (Chess, 40k, Starcraft, Street Fighter)
Seriously? chess and 40k, Starcraft, Street Fighter in the same sentence?
Also I wouldn't put "Making Video Games" in the same category than sperg-grade shit like 40k and autismcraft, that shit takes talent, a zerg-rush does not
>bad tier
>Single player Video Games
Ok now you're retarded…
>Free Masonry
Get the fuck out of here /pol/ack
No.3944
>>3926
I'm all for improving your physical condition, I'm just saying if you're a gym rat you're bottom of the fucking barrel in terms of athletics.
I have more respect for powerwalking. Go snort some protein powder, or whatever it is you do to maintain your freak bodies.
No.4013
>>3501
>and making music are two very different things.
This, playing an instrument takes a lot of dedication and patience. When playing an instrument you are constantly making mistakes especially when your starting where starting out you can't even know how to even read the notes let alone to listen by ear to fix your mistakes. Even people who play for years have to re-play sometimes because you play out of key, rhythm not right(tempo changes) , lose count (1 ah and ah 2 etc) and played in the wrong time signature ( ie played 4/4 when its a 6/8) and sometimes play notes that weren't even notes not to mention music theory gets more complicated as you progress
>>2979
I do agree that guitar is over populated but learning an instrument very satisfying especially when you successfully played your piece very well
No.4130
>>3069
>Weird tier
>Ghost hunting
Hey buddy, fuck you.
I've been ghost hunting for 15 years and haven't seen a fucking ghost yet. But you think that a little old post like yours, bashing my favorite hobby of chasing ghosts will stop the hunt? No, no it won't.
No.4151
>>3941
I bet you can't even do basic math.
No.4210
I find that the broad category of the hobby (literature, music, sports, etc) isn't as important as how you actually engage in the hobby.
If you look at music, you can obviously categorize it into creating music, performing music and listening to music. But within each of those, there are still different ways to engage. Some people who say they listen simply have music playing while they can hear, while others treat listening as a very active process, being mindful of specific details and dissecting it in their minds. Some are fine with whatever they can dig up from their familiar collection, while others enthusiastically scour for new musical experiences. Or within performing music, you have people who pick up some simple chord progressions on the guitar to impress the chicks with a cute little ballad, and people who constantly aim to play more and more difficult pieces.
It might seem like simply different levels of engagement, but I think it's entirely different ways to enjoy the same hobby. The very same hobby can be enjoyed by someone simply seeking to stimulate their senses, or someone seeking to improve themselves in some tangible way, or someone who wants to seem unique, or someone who wants an activity to engage in with their friends, or someone who wants to express themselves creatively, or someone who wants to further their career, or something else I can't think of right now. People here will probably shun the first one, as being motivated purely by that could turn any hobby into hedonism. But rather than trying to rank these motivations by how noble they are, I think it's best to take a honest look at yourself and decide which one(s) you value most. If you're really career-oriented, you probably think that your hobbies should help you professionally, while if you're obsessed with becoming a better person, self-improvement might seem like the only way to approach your hobbies. Both are perfectly legit, and there's probably many more legit motivations I didn't list.
Once you've figured out what really drives a hobby for you, you can look beyond the shallow categories and think about the actual activities you want to be engaged in. For instance, realizing you're most fulfilled when creating things is a lot more useful than realizing that writing, drawing and composing seem like cool hobbies.
Maybe this is all obvious, but I feel it's worth mentioning, because I've seen people get really rewarding experiences out of less respectable hobbies, and it would be sad if people felt encouraged to abandon their passions just because most people associate it with and condemn it as timewasting. I've also seen plenty of people with hobbies that sound really cool, but who actually turn out to be complete tools with nothing interesting going on with their lives other than the cool image their hobby gives them, and we certainly don't need more people like that.
No.4214
>>3501
Using drugs leaves effects on your brain that can be generalized as desensitization. To improve, you need the opposite - to sublimate your experiences.
You can try some relatively secure drug once a year or two after indulging in research. But if you desensitize your receptors after subjecting them to eg. unusual pleasure, you will feel less pleasure in everyday life.
You need to keep your receptors sensitive so that you can efficiently reward yourself with small pleasures for your work and be satisfied. Someone who's been in places during his trips has seen things that now make him go meh at anything subtle
No.4215
>>4214
What about people who are too sensitive, with crippling phobias and anxieties surrounding daily life? The sort of person that gets so overwhelmed by the thought of entering a store or talking to another person (regardless of how familiar they are) that they avoid these situations altogether. Wouldn't a little desensitization go a long way towards helping them feel more at ease in the world?
Disclaimer: I've never taken drugs and never intend to, I don't even drink, I'm just playing with thoughts. I'm also attempting to overcome a fairly severe case of social anxiety.