/improve/ - Self Improvement

I'm finally leaving chans forever.

This is the end, and that's a good thing.

This site has nothing to offer anybody. There is no quality content here you cannot get more quickly and efficiently elsewhere. This is an addiction which reduces your productivity, attention span, and free time. You are becoming more bitter, narrow minded, haughty, and old. Leave now and block this site. There is nothing here but slow, lonely suicide.

People do not have arguments here. Posters do not engage one another on key points, they nitpick with greentext and mock each other. Nobody is interested in the truth; people are battling for fleeting moments of superiority. Active commenters are loud jackasses who tumble into one internet fight after another, anxiously keeping ten tabs open to ensure they keep the last word in all of them. An insightful post is one in ten thousand, and no matter how hard you filter this place you are still searching for diamonds in a garbage dump.

This place is not making you happy. You are not having fun. You are not gathering stories to tell, learning, or growing as a person. Instead you chuckle every thirty minutes and are occasionally spurred to masturbation by libidinal posts or pictures. You are addicted to readily available information and pressure free social interaction. This place is slowly poisoning you with misogyny, narcissism, a false dichotomy surrounding normalfags, and insecurity.

I'm not telling you to b urself. I'm not telling you to go outside. I'm not even telling you to make friends. Just leave chans. Do anything else.

Every now and then, you are reminded of an obscure but obvious fact in life that you have been ignoring without realizing this. And when you are reminded, a wonderful thing happens. You now have the option to consider taking action upon the realization of this fact you had originally forgotten.

Here is the fact.

Chans are a waste of time. You need to leave chans and stop wasting time in your life. You need to stop wasting time watching anime. You need to stop wasting time period.

I am going to leave chans forever after I make this post.

Think about it. Just consider leaving for a second.

I'm not trying to be the bad guy here. You know you need to get your life sorted out. It shouldn't be a matter of oh yeah it would be nice if I got my shit together. It should be a matter of ok i'm getting my shit together.

Get your shit together and leave chans.

All your posts you have ever made on this website have been deleted and don't even exist anymore. Its like you never even mattered. Stop putting time into posts that will not exist soon. Stop putting time into doing nothing.

One day you will wish you had spent this time better.

If none of that will convince you then at least read this.

If you think you are filled with regret and sadness now it is NOTHING compared to how you will feel as you get older if you don't fix your shit right now. If you don't fix yourself now it only gets worse from here.

Is anyone else suffering from an internet addiction?

I'll spend most of my time online accomplishing nothing and feel terrible. My mind will feel numb, the eyes will be sore and I'll feel fatigued. Then I want to do nothing because I have no energy and spend more time online.

Now, I've recently gone 4 days without internet completely. This includes all electronics as well such as television, phone, etc. Only the radio. The first day, I felt noticeably better and by the fourth, my depression had majorly subsided.

Perhaps our depression is situational from this computer fatigue. It's very hard to escape from though. It's like a alcoholic who has to go to a bar every day to eat because like it or not, you need to have internet in your life to function as an adult now.

Can anyone relate?

>>2818

>Chans are a waste of time. You need to leave chans and stop wasting time in your life. You need to stop wasting time watching anime. You need to stop wasting time period.

Is it really time wasted if you're happy with where you are and where you're going?

I probably spend less than a half hour each day here. I watch a bit of anime (much less than most americans watch TV), and there are plenty of other things I do with my life. I have other hobbies.

I don't see why quitting chans would make me any better of a person. My life needs organization, yes, but it doesn't hurt just to see "what's up on /tech/?" or "what's /a/ talking about today?" I'll check the Q/A threads in /tech/ to see if I can help out with anything, check the catalogs, maybe make a post or two, and leave.

I'm getting my shit together regardless, and it certainly doesn't get in the way of my life. There are definitely people who have a true addiction and probably should quit, but there's also people who are fine with nothing other than an occasional indulgence.

As with anything, eating dessert every once in a while isn't what makes a man overweight. A man becomes overweight because he consistently neglects to take care of himself.

>>2820

>The amount of things I've missed/went through in autopilot is already ridiculous but I try not to mull over it as I can still change my ways.

Do you have any cash? Travel. Don't worry about bringing a friend, it'll make it better, but it isn't required. Just go anywhere. Whether it's a town you've never been to before, or a totally different country, go somewhere. Don't bring a PC. Don't use your phone. You may only use Google maps after you've asked one person how to get where you wanna go.

Here the kicker: That mysterious place you've never been before, where you took in all the scenery and the local culture? That's what EVERYWHERE is like when you turn your autopilot off.

>>2826

>Only the radio.

Ouch. All I can get locally is Top 40 and Country. Both options are pretty shit. You don't even have an iPod or anything?

>>2817

>>2818

Cold turkey DOESN'T WORK. Trust me I've tried it for YEARS. Longest I've been able to do it was 4 months or so but that was because the imageboard I was using was on a decline, I had not discovered krautchan and 8ch had not yet come to existence.

There's a reason why that burns image saying you're here forever has such weight. I even made a couple of threads here on the topic but all answers were basically inconclusive. All that we know is that imageboards are highly addictive because of their constantly "refreshing" nature.

The only thing that really kept me away was when an imageboard just got to the point where it was fucked beyond all repair or the site is shut down. 4chan is basically dead to me, and 4chon is dead literally but that's really the two biggest ways we'll be able to quit cold turkey.

>>2820

What we can probably do is look at how porn addicted people fought their addiction. I remember a show where these porn addicted guys went to see the industry for what its really was and they were so disgusted by the end that they basically were done with it.

>>2826

It's not really the internet i'm addicted to. It's imageboards. Literally imageboards are like 80-90% of my time. Everywhere else it's pretty fucking boring. Information overload isprobably what's screwing us over.

What's funny is that when I have shit to do in the real world and I have purpose things are so different. Online everything seems so, i don't know how to describe it, whereas IRL doing something has weight to it.

I will be honest

Imageboards make up only 10% of my time, I visit about 5 boards, semi-active, but through the years i've made friends, met with them

If you can use these places to improve yourself or your situation in any way then it was not all worthless

But as I grow older (im almost 30 now) the old speed-esque feel that imageboards used to give me are dying down, I might still visit /v/ or /history/ once in a while when im 35 but at that point it will be very slow

Ease yourself out, especially if you're underage b&, well at least you're not on other forms of talking medias

>>2833

How long have you been on them? The high I get from them doesn't nearly compare to the highs I got from previous years but that doesn't mean I don't attempt to regain the former glory.

I feel powerless sometimes. No matter what happens in my life, online it stays the same.

>>2834

i'm an "old fag" on the chans

since 2008

Though I visited Chan-esque sites way before like Usnet random boards and places where I discussed vidya where they had /v/s opinions

>4chan

nor luring there often

and I won't leave chans it's fun and I don't want to be 9fag or faggit user.

we shouldn't spend all our times here. when I wait for something I browse chanson smarthphone, definelityly worth to browse

>>2816

It's funny that when I think of this, I realize that all that time reading useless greentext stories and rants could've used to learn a bunch of actually useful ways to solve problems/live life.

>languages

>physics

>chemistry

>philosophy

>biology

or at a most basic level, to try and fix myself

I find that image boards confer to me an often unconsidered benefit: a head start on memes.

Now, I don't just mean image macros. I mean memes in the traditional sense, defined as "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture."

So many cultural ideas, jokes, and trends start on 8Chan and - to a lesser extent recently - on halfchan. If you're smart you can pick and choose which ones will be successful and make use of them early. People see you as an originator if you're one of the first people to use something like that in the mainstream, and this can give you a boost to your social life. You just have to distinguish between stupid/weird trends and trends that have the power to go mainstream.

Just look at Pepe.

I have struggled to leave these sites for years. What first spurred me to leave was the realization of how intensely I was browsing the site; remaining active in almost every major thread on the boards of my choice and commenting on the minor ones, juggling tabs and breathing heavily with my face inches from the screen. In a brief moment of clarity, I closed all my hundreds of tabs and left with disgust in myself.

I have mostly remained inactive since then, but have returned to the intensity of my previous browsing occasionally with stress and the compulsion to shut off my brain. I know I do not need this. I also know that I will never be fully free of this place because I have already tasted its nothingness. In my attempt to leave and improve, I unfortunately started on a computer career, and imageboards will always be a quick unfilter away. Every time I come back, I become a little worse. My hard formed habits become second to these disgusting shitholes for god knows what reason. Everything I want to accomplish that comes so easily at my peaks becomes a boring slog.

If I had the skill and drive to kill to end these putrid websites I would, multiple times.

I hope to leave the chans eventually not because of it "wasting my life" that ship had already sailed but because everybody always goes on about the "good old days" and it makes me feel bad since I have only been a part of them since the end of 2010 and I hate missing out on things.

I have been using the internet in general since around 1998 when I was 7/8, though, so I guess I am too addicted to leave and by this point it has possibly already taken its toll on my mental well-being anyway.

I do, however, aim to stop using the internet once I figure out how to deal with people outside of it. I have found that people are way more obnoxious online, due to a combination of them thinking it's how they are 'supposed' to behave and the fact that it is easier to convey humour in person. The problem is that I have been using videogames and the internet as a means of filling my own social quota which I have been lacking for so long, since no kid is going to want to hang out with the freak of the school (You could say it has been a kind of coping mechanism).

Anyway, that's my rambling out of the way. The point is, I would like to leave the internet as a whole at some point in my life, but that's easier said than done. I don't have any plans of giving up videogames, however, as that's more of a hobby

>>3433

funny because i cut the video game addiction. although it took mass effect 3's ending but i cut it. it just numbed me so goddamn hard.

i had hoped that 4chon.net's demise would've done the same but i just simply transitioned between here, krautchan and hispachan.

I hate all of them equally but it's all we have left now.

Chans are what keep me up late, and what keep me wanking into the early hours of the morning. If there was some place where I could post anonymously without the struggle of porn, overly racist comments, and general creepiness (ever tell a girl you browse imageboards?), that'd be great. I don't think I could ever give up chans, though. There's something about them that is sacred in my philosophy of human nature. We all post from different places, and we are from different walks of life, so I enjoy something like this because a lot of times, we're all talking about the same thing. Take this board, for example. We all came here for self improvement. We'll suggest certain things, cheer each other on, and we all gain lots from that. Hell, being on /r9k/ for so long showed me that there's more to life than being sorry for myself. Tomorrow I have a date, for Christ's sake. I also run roughly two miles everyday. Not because of /fit/, but because of /pol/. I don't want to be degenerate scum, living off of my parents my whole life. I don't agree with the whole white supremacy thing over there, not without first giving people the hard facts, in the form of me being completely fucking jacked (will work on that soon).

Sorry to go off on a tangent, but remember: you are a product of your own environment. Spend your time on /a/, and you'll become a weeb. Spend it on /k/ and you'll become an operator. But spend it here, and I personally think you'll find some sort of peace.

>DO YOU EVEN CONSIDER MAKING BETTER CHANS?

*caps lock*

>>3456

>>3504

You can discipline yourself to browse chans and even internet in general to certain times of the day and for limited amounts of time, in a way that is doable and comfortable for you. When I say browse, I mean being on the internet not doing anything productive.

It's about building good habits. Start out easy and raise the bar gradually. This goes for other things other than the time you spend on imageboards.

I'm saying this, but It's not that I'm a disciplined guy.

I myself spend a lot of time procrastinating on imageboards, some times more than others. Nevertheless, here's my short motivational advice although I probably didn't say anything you haven't thought orof or read somewhere else.

>>3460

>I don't think I could ever give up chans, though. There's something about them that is sacred in my philosophy of human nature.

Me neither, as you said there's something else in chans… I can't explain what

>>3506

I'll try.

>>3508

>There's something about them that is sacred in my philosophy of human nature.

I would say its the anonymity. I find that sacred, especially when so many groups are actively trying to get rid of it. On the internet and IRL. Just my two cents.

Keep improving /improve/

>>3506

Shit is fucking hard man. I haven't been on imageboards 2 days and I just came crawling back about 10 mins ago to check in on 8ch.

>>3515

That and how easy it is to just post and leave. No history that follows you(still on govt servers but you know what I mean), no baggage.