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 No.3166

Hey /improve/, I'm trying to fix my life. Many people say, don't go to college unless you need to. Well I'm not smart enough for a STEM job. I feel I can do something more skill based. The issue is I do know a lot of trade schools try and fuck you over. I looked up a few already and found 70-100 negative reviews.

Anyone here go to any type of trade school know what to look for and how to not get fucked? I already know I'll make much less than pretty much everyone I know, never hitting 80k-100k, but I want to move to the mid-west (US) anyway, so I'm hoping that won't matter too much.

I'm turning 24 this year and I've been looking into CNC programing or something like that. I can't think of many other skills I can do. If I'm too stupid to do this then I guess I'll learn to deal with being poor.

 No.3171

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Are you really stupid or just too lazy to learn?


 No.3172

>>3171

too lazy to learn what? STEM? I'm not good at the high level math you need for it. I was never very good at it.


 No.3186

>>3172

You just have to practice and you will get good at it.


 No.3189

>>3186

Not him, but I'm studying STEM, and even when I was the best at maths from my school, I'm barely passing introduction to calculus and algebra.

Sure, I'm not studying very hard, but it's not something that everybody can do, even if they study a lot (also, time is against you).

Take my post with a grain of salt though.


 No.3190

>>3171

Some people just don't dig academics. I know I don't. Can I pass, yes, do I want to, I couldn't give a shit.

OP look at public colleges. Usually they have your best interests in mind.


 No.3195

>>3189

I know I'm bad at the high level shit. I'm not putting myself into that when I know it's past me.

> time is against you

Yeah, I know

>>3190

That's why I need to work on a skill.


 No.3197

>>3195

I'll tell you from personal experience that so long as you know algebra anything past that is pretty much useless IRL.

As for work, I don't know what you should get. That depends on where you live but check out a local public cc and try to get an associate in that. Associates look MUCH better than just certs. Trust me.

Again check out a local CC. If they have option of taking nigh school rub for that shit and work during the day. Start slowwww one class a night then ramp up as you pass classes since that will boost your confidence big time.


 No.3203

>>3197

I was looking into tech schools/ trade school and community colleges since they don't coast a lot. I live in NY now and it's very costly to live here. I wanted to move out to the mid west or someplace cheaper to live.

As far as math goes, maybe half of it is not beveling I can do it. Not sure how much I retained from the last time I took a math class. I know I can not handle calculus. Algebra is not too hard if I have a calculator. Geometry is pretty okay if I can remember the formulas.


 No.3205

>>3203

I'd shy away from tech schools. I really would. The standards in those places are all over the fucking place. Check out the prices too, it's too fucking expensive.

CC's are better because usually their standards are more leveled and even reach into the high end. Plus they have access to alumni, local companies that tap into their people base, and can give you an associates(like an A.A.S) that while isn't designed for transfer and more in line for work it is an Associate degree nonetheless. It may be, how you say, vain…but it will speak somewhat.

Also, take advantage of the school itself man. You can find some CC's with really good people and perks. Especially in trades, I'm AMAZED how much of a resource a school can be. I just didn't see it the first time around. Now that I work around in what I'm trying to study these professors are like beacons of light in terms of showing you the way and how your surroundings are. As for other perks for I used the school provided email to get discounts from my phone bill to amazon.

What also may work for you, and this is something for down the line and what I plan to do as well, is take courses in a higher degree that you may be interested in. Maybe you'll find out you don't even like the thing. It may turn out to be a dead end but at least you'll get closure and won't be kicking yourself constantly down the road.


 No.3206

>>3205

>CC's are better because usually their standards are more leveled and even reach into the high end.

Funny, my dad more or less said the same thing about looking for a CC.

I don't know how far into the debt whole I want to go, and I'd rather not get a BD or a Masters since I never plan on being a teacher.

>You can find some CC's with really good people and perks

Isn't meeting the right people 1/3 the battle?


 No.3207

>>3206

>Funny, my dad more or less said the same thing about looking for a CC.

And he is correct. I had to burn out on a college being a dumbshit the first timeand work like a dog for a few years to only now understand the impact a community college can have on your life. It's the paradox of wisdom. Until you experience it for yourself chances are you'll never "get it". It's why the whole jes b urself deal is a meme.

When you start working you'll quickly realize that you learning and developing isn't an employer's priority. And if you lack the background, resources, etc a University gives jack shit care about you. A small community college in that regard is a stepping stone that a lot of people(myself at one time as well) take for granted. Inexpensive, actually have quality programs, flexible hours(especially for us who need to eat too). It's a chance at redemption where those of us who don't have strong academics can make a comeback.

>Isn't meeting the right people 1/3 the battle?

Yes. It is. Just knowing people opens doors especially if you can make them remember you. Show passion and interest and your face will pop up in their heads. You also have to realize that people have lives outside of college. I've found that in trade programs/cert courses(especially the latter) are filled to the brim with useful potential contacts.

Don't expect the world, by no means, but it at least gives you a shot to know who's who in the biz, who's hiring, what people are doing to get the job, who's a potential contact, career paths and prospects etc. If you're green, yeah it may seem intimidating but knowledge like that is worth gold and you won't find it just on the street somewhere.


 No.3208

>>3207

> I had to burn out on a college being a dumbshit the first timeand work like a dog for a few years to only now understand the impact a community college

Wow, like a page from my own, book. I burned a few years going to a college for something I didn't care about only to later learn why it was a bad idea. I met some good people and have a few names in okay places ( locally) so it's not all bad I guess.

If I end up going with a CC. I really need to figure out how you move into a new state. Part of me becoming better is getting out of this dying state when I still can.


 No.3214

>>3208

one step at a time man. don't rush it.

start off slow with college and work. find out what works for you and above all give yourself plenty of time.

when you're actually doing whatever it is that you want, be it school or otherwise, the reality of it hits you like a bus and you find that you need more time than you thought.

other than than, keep plugging away at it bro. things take time to start and finish. slow and steady not only wins the race but allows you to appreciate the view of your surroundings.

also, this internet thing is incredible for information. research the SHIT out of everything and anything you're curious about. glassdoor and the occupational handbook are treasure troves of job info and are the stuff that gives you that edge. don't discount outside school educational opportunities either. sometiems they're worth more than the actual school itself for networking.


 No.3218

>>3214

Very true. I've been told I jump ahead of myself and expect results fast. Gotta slow down.


 No.3226

>>3218

Yeah, I was a lot like that. Still am, trying to fix it though.

What helped me out a lot was making goal lists full of goals that were possible to do within 6 months. Then over time I added longer term goals as my confidence and patience built up from my small successes.

I reccommend planning in spurts of 5 years or so. That should give you plenty of time to work things out. Also, re-evaluate and do so often. You'll find that as you find what you really want things that seemed life or death important don't matter as much. Careful not to waste your time on shit like that.

But planning is easy as fuck. It's the execution that counts as well as the balls to actually go for something that you really want.


 No.3230

>>3226

>What helped me out a lot was making goal lists full of goals that were possible to do within 6 months.

Already started. Fully cleaned my room and threw a lot of shit out. Felt great. I still have some clutter, but I make sure I clean once a week. Amazing how something so little does so much for your mood.


 No.3233

>>3230

It's because you see things getting done.

Just don't stop or else it's hard to start up again.


 No.3305

>>3166

what job do you work currently?


 No.3329

>>3305

I've been out of the job for a few months now.




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