/improve/ - Self Improvement

If it assumes all of that then they probably have shit self control which will render everything useless.

I say, if they can, start with what most interests them be it getting a job, or getting friends, etc and going from there.

What's TWCA?

>>3661

the well cultured anonymous,

a tryhard "guide" for anons back in the day. autismally dealt wit the basics like brushing your teeth and wearing clothes the right way.

very misguided, now that I look back on it.

>>3656

As someone who fits that description to a T see >>731 , and is still struggling to get off the ground even after 6 months of focusing on self-improvement, I would really appreciate something like this.

I don't know if this will be helpful or not, but my biggest issue since I began has been that as soon as something interferes with my personal schedule or plan, and something always does, I lapse and fall straight back into my old "lifestyle" for a week or two. Then I have to start building up my momentum all over again from scratch.

Due to this, I can rarely get past the "sleep well and keep clean" stage, which tells me there's something psychological that is keeping me from progressing any further. Or maybe I'm just expecting too much, too soon? I'm not sure.

CBT would tell me to "just do it, even if you don't feel like it", but when I hit that lapse state it's like the part of my mind in control of proactiveness gets muted which was already extremely quiet to begin with while the lazy reactive part that is quite happy to spend 20 hours a day staring at a computer screen and washing once a fortnight gets given free rein.

Unfortunately I don't have a solution for this yet, but I thought it was worth bringing up because it's what is most relevant to me right now, and I can imagine this being a common problem amongst other people in similar situations.

>>3660

It'll apply to the well adjusted person too, but it will be tailored towards the people with lack of control, the average /r9k/obot etc, even though it may be a bitch to pull off.

>>3665

Yeah, mental disorders is the factor that's going to make this a bitch.

>>3670

You're assuming that everyone will start at their lowest and by making such a broad assumption you already set yourself up for failure.

I think before anyone spends so much as an ounce of energy they should first identify what their problems are. Not just getting a gf. Not just being unemployed . but every last one. Get it out in the open where you can't avoid it and it doesn't lurk in the deep recesses of your mind.

Only the can you truly start working and jes b urself

>Browsing image boards all day ✔

>No skills ✔

>NEET ✔

>No friends ✔

>Depressed and have social anxiety ✔

>Underweight and not active ✔

Clean sweep. What do I win?

>>3673

dude, at the very least go to edx. they have tons of cool courses.

>Browsing image boards all day ✔

>No skills ✔

>Depressed and have social anxiety(unless on the alcohol)✔

I got no motivation to learn the shit i'm studying at college, always been on the verge of getting kicked from school for shit marks.

It's prolly because i play a shitton of vidya geams

>Browsing image boards all day

Basically

>It assumes you have no skills

I am fairly skilled in what I do

>It assumes you are a NEET

I am in an apprenticeship

>It assumes you have no friends

I got friends

>It assumes you are depressed/have social anxiety

True though

>It assumes you are overweight/underweight/not active

True as well

You know, I wonder if people like us might actually be uniquely worthless. I look at my life and the difficulty I have with absolutely basic shit (not living in filth, getting out of bed, not wasting every waking hour on imageboards) and I wonder whether anyone who has ever been in such a predicament has managed to escape it. I live like a drug addict but the only thing I'm addicted to is imageboards, it certainly doesn't bode well for getting a job or achieving anything at all really. Maybe we are the first generation of people to utterly fuck up our lives through abnormal means (internet addiction instead of drug abuse, etc.) and only time will tell if anyone makes it out.

You know, I wonder if people like us might actually be uniquely worthless. I look at my life and the difficulty I have with absolutely basic shit (not living in filth, getting out of bed, not wasting every waking hour on imageboards) and I wonder whether anyone who has ever been in such a predicament has managed to escape it. I live like a drug addict but the only thing I'm addicted to is imageboards, it certainly doesn't bode well for getting a job or achieving anything at all really. Maybe we are the first generation of people to utterly fuck up our lives through abnormal means (internet addiction instead of drug abuse, etc.) and only time will tell if anyone makes it out.

Flood detected, what the fuck?

You know, I wonder if people like us might actually be uniquely worthless. I look at my life and the difficulty I have with absolutely basic shit (not living in filth, getting out of bed, not wasting every waking hour on imageboards) and I wonder whether anyone who has ever been in such a predicament has managed to escape it. I live like a drug addict but the only thing I'm addicted to is imageboards, it certainly doesn't bode well for getting a job or achieving anything at all really. Maybe we are the first generation of people to utterly fuck up our lives through abnormal means (internet addiction instead of drug abuse, etc.) and only time will tell if anyone makes it out.

>>3680

People have been in significantly worse predicaments and have managed to escape them, this situation of ours, it's very possible to get out.

What separates us from other animals is our self awareness, the fact that we can think about our thoughts, our actions and tweak things to make ourselves more effective. We can change our habits and in doing so we can change ourselves. Everything you've mentioned are just bad habits, and those habits can be eliminated and replaced by better habits.

>>3679

I made it out. I'm still addicted to imageboards/forums. I probably haven't gone a day without visiting one in ten years. But I'm in college, employed, have a girlfriend and friends. I never posted on retarded shit like /b/. Other than maybe two months spent ob /r9k/ until I realized I wasn't a virgin and I didn't hate women. That place was pure poison. /pol/ is the only halfchan board I browsed after /fit/ started turning into one giant closet homo-erotic cesspool. Recently branching out to slower boards like /biz/ and the sister boards. The slower pace is kinda weening me off. As long as I have a smart phone or a laptop accessible I don't think I'll ever stop coming. I can go without if I'm camping, working, or on vacation.

What's the distinction between talent and genius?

>>3718

magnitude

>zenpencils

hello reddit

>>3718

genius = talent + training

>>3678

Doing chores around the house & the yard helped me get away from imageboards for a couple of hours.Running and walking also helps because you can spend between 20 mins to 2h doing that.If you like reading, pick some books try to choose themes you like.Good Luck.

>>3725

narrow stereotype, man

>>3722

>>3729

I was hoping one would explain it in reference to the comic. Or is it that there really are people out there who are not only talented but are also hardworkers and are simply cast aside?

Bring on the guide

>>3678

I was in the same situation and got out of it. I also had an addiction problem at the time. Honestly to get out of it I joined the military. I now really dislike the military, but I wouldn't go back and change anything about joining.

The military isn't a great option, but if you felt as I did.

>couldn't stand school

>just want to get high

>no friends(very few, but had too much social anxiety to talk to them or go anywhere)

>no job skills

I would even get anxious taking out the trash. I'd think "what if people are watching me"

I can now easily talk to anyone, and have no social anxiety(well I can handle it easily)

The military is a waste of time for me now, but it was definitely the right decision for ME. Most NEETs are smart, just no motivation. Could probably get any job in the military. The military teaches you how to have the drive to get shit done even when you're about to pass out

>>3827

I can relate to your younger self, but joining the military is the last thing I ever want to do.

I wouldn't be eligible even if I did want to join anyway. My health records show that I've been diagnosed with asperger's, and have a long history of depression and social anxiety issues that are still present today.

>>3674

>dude, at the very least go to edx. they have tons of cool courses

This is a good recommendation. If only to get into the habit of doing work and meeting deadlines. It's all organized extremely well (or at least, the MIT stuff).

>>3729

Talent=Training+practice

Nobody is naturally gifted. The only "talent" you can have, is if you developped a liking easily in what you are supposedly "talented" at.

Source: I did some commissions and had some short comics published in collectives and magazines. Peoples think I just magically got gud. I know a fair share of folks who have even more patience than me for practicing, hence why they are way above my level.

>>3925

Yup, been practicing drawing for a while, and I like my drawings each time a bit more